Patriots are going to sign Stephon Gilmore. Looks like they think this is a really bad DB class too.
Or maybe they just wanted a couple of veterans at important spots instead of rookies.
Did they give away a mid round draft pick to get him?
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Patriots are going to sign Stephon Gilmore. Looks like they think this is a really bad DB class too.
Or maybe they just wanted a couple of veterans at important spots instead of rookies.
Did they give away a mid round draft pick to get him?
Did they give away a mid round draft pick to get him?
OT Cam Robinson (6-6 1/4, 321) was worked out by four NFL offensive line coaches. He looked good in drills; I was told he left no doubt he can play left tackle in the NFL. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ro-day-belichick-carroll-bowles-in-attendance
Honest question who was the last OT out of Alabama that turned into a good pro? Greg Robinson and DJ fluker both had to move to guard. It's an honest question does their scheme and talent tend to make their tackles look better.
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Samuels was a beast. I disagree on Smith he's been a career under achiever. Throw in Chance Wormack as another first round bust/under achiever.
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The question wasn't who's been an all out beast, just who's been a good pro. Smith's spent a few seasons as a good pro.
I frankly don't care anyway and was just trying to give some answer to a question posed.
If Kelly is on PS that means any team can take him. At that point you're better off cutting either Oz or Savage. More than likely Savage since cutting Oz would be a $25M cap hit; $6M more than if he just sit him.
Does Oz have an PS eligibility left?
I see Robinson as a RT. I don't expect him to move to the left side.
Well, since this issue has been solved, I'd run with Kelly as QB3 behind Romo and Savage. If his injury is enough reason for us to get away with stashing him on IR or PS, then I'm all for that and carrying only 2 QBs.
I wouldn't feel comfortable playing a season with 2 QBs made of glass. I'd want a third on the active roster. A slight breeze could take Romo and Savage out, leaving us with Lechler as our QB.
Wow so much for getting him in the second or third round at probably pushing up into the first round.D'Onta Foreman clocks in as one of NFL draft's fastest backs at Texas' pro day
http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/col...ks-one-nfl-drafts-fastest-backs-texas-pro-day
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D'Onta Foreman UT pro day numbers (only benched at combine): 6-0 1/8, 234, 33-inch vertical, 4.45/4.45 40s
Wow so much for getting him in the second or third round at probably pushing up into the first round.
Pro Football Weekly@PFWeekly 5m5 minutes ago
D'Onta Foreman has the size, strength and the power to be a great back in the NFL despite some of his techniques.
Mid- or late-round target: Nathan Peterman, QB, Pittsburgh
If the Texans can’t land a quarterback in the first round, Pitt’s Peterman would be a solid option for them later in the draft. While he may not have the upside of a player like Mahomes, Peterman’s skillset could fit in nicely in O’Brien’s system. His pocket discipline, quick release, and ability to get through his progressions all bode well for his chances of success at the next level. Peterman showed good placement on short to intermediate routes, but also has the ability to air it out and ranked third in the nation last season with a 125.5 QB Rating on deep pass attempts.
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https://www.profootballfocus.com/dr...l&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=college
Stats to know: Had the nation’s No. 2 passer rating when pressured at 114.7.
So the 2016 FUBAR has now been extended thru 2018.I approach the 2017 NFL Draft with some consternation. 2016 and Bob McNair shot the Houston Texans in the foot for the 2017 Marathon. McNair spending $128MM for 3 players in 2016 tied the Texans hands in 2017. Texans also ended 2016 with rumors of discontent in the Boardroom. I don't expect those personalities to become BFFs over the off season. There was much speculation that O'Brien was on his way out in 2016. I believe the Texans are now in a similar situation as the LSU Tigers and Les Miles were in starting the 2016 season. I expect things will get get worse and not any better. Unfortunately odds are that O'Brien is coaching his last season as a Texan. That doesn't bode well for drafting players in 2017 with a high probability of new Head Coach and system being in place in 2018. This is the bed that Bob McNair has made so we must now sleep in it.
THE MOCK.
PICK #25, The Texans are on the clock. WE HAVE A TRADE!
The Texans have traded their 1st RD, 25th pick and their 3rd RD, 89th pick to the San Francisco 49ers for their 2nd RD. 34th pick, 3rd RD. 66th pick and 4th RD. 109th pick. (San Francisco selects; Patrick Mahomes) SF has a bigger void at QB than Texans, moved up for a QB 5 yr. contract. Points, Texans = 865; SF = 896
With the 34th pick in the 2nd RD of 2017 NFL Draft the Houston Texans select:
Rd 2 (34) - 1A. = Garrett Bolles, OT Utah; 1B. = Cam Robinson, OT Alabama; 1C. = Dion Dawkins, OT, Temple
RD 2 (57) - Nathan Peterman, QB Pittsburgh (My favorite QB in this draft, IMHO, best feet and release, many comparisons to Kirk Cousins, see Clemson and Penn St games)
RD 3 (66) - Jumaine Elemunor, OG Texas A&M
Texans trade 4th RD picks #109 and #131 to the Atlanta Falcons for their 3rd RD (95) pick: Points, Texans = 117; Atlanta =120
RD 3 (95) - D'onta Foreman, RB Texas
RD 5 (169) - Corn Elder, CB Miami
RD 6 (188) - Chad Kelly, QB Ole Miss - (Why? Because Texans are in QB Hell! Take a chance on the DNA and the best arm in this draft w/ a 6th RD pick, he spends a year on IR, maybe he can grow up, mature and get his temper and anger management under control, possible day 2 draft trade in 3 years if he's not the man.)
RD 7 (243) - Khalid Abdullah, RB James Madison (Lightning to Foreman's Thunder)
Texans begin 2018 without Osweiler, Miller and Allen.
REVISED: Already, based on reports on how well Peterman threw the ball and performed at the Combine he will likely be long gone by the end of the 3rd RD. Thinking back to what Belichick said about Garoppolo and QBs, you have to get those guys early. Foreman's foot stress fracture has dropped him to RD 3. Need more info from @CloakNNNdagger about Foreman's injury.
So the 2016 FUBAR has now been extended thru 2018.
***REVISED PRE DRAFT MOCK - 04/19/2017:****
PICK #25, The Texans are on the clock. WE HAVE A TRADE!
The Texans have traded their 1st RD, 25th pick and their 3rd RD, 89th pick to the San Francisco 49ers for their 2nd RD. 34th pick, 3rd RD. 66th pick and 4th RD. 109th pick. (San Francisco selects; Patrick Mahomes) SF has a bigger void at QB than Texans, moved up for a QB 5 yr. contract. Points, Texans = 865; SF = 896
With the 34th pick in 2017 NFL Draft the Houston Texans select:
RD 2 (34) - Nathan Peterman, QB Pittsburgh, 5th Year Senior (My favorite QB in this draft, IMHO, best feet and release, many comparisons to Kirk Cousins, see Clemson and Penn St games)
RD 2 (57) -D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas
RD 3 (66) - Jumaine Elemunor, RT/OG, Texas A&M
RD 4 (109) - Justin Evans, SS, Texas A&M
RD 4 (131) - Aviante Collins, RT, TCU
RD 5 (169) - Corn Elder, CB Miami
RD 6 (188) - Chad Kelly, QB Ole Miss - (Why? Because Texans are in QB Hell! Take a chance on the DNA and the best arm in this draft w/ a 6th RD pick, he spends a year on IR, maybe he can grow up, mature and get his temper and anger management under control, possible day 2 draft trade in 3 years if he's not the man.)
RD 7 (243) - Khalid Abdullah, RB James Madison (Lightning to Foreman's Thunder)
So the 2016 FUBAR has now been extended thru 2018.
***REVISED PRE DRAFT MOCK - 04/19/2017:****
PICK #25, The Texans are on the clock. WE HAVE A TRADE!
The Texans have traded their 1st RD, 25th pick and their 3rd RD, 89th pick to the San Francisco 49ers for their 2nd RD. 34th pick, 3rd RD. 66th pick and 4th RD. 109th pick. (San Francisco selects; Patrick Mahomes) SF has a bigger void at QB than Texans, moved up for a QB 5 yr. contract. Points, Texans = 865; SF = 896
With the 34th pick in 2017 NFL Draft the Houston Texans select:
RD 2 (34) - Nathan Peterman, QB Pittsburgh, 5th Year Senior (My favorite QB in this draft, IMHO, best feet and release, many comparisons to Kirk Cousins, see Clemson and Penn St games)
RD 2 (57) -D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas
RD 3 (66) - Jumaine Elemunor, RT/OG, Texas A&M
RD 4 (109) - Justin Evans, SS, Texas A&M
RD 4 (131) - Aviante Collins, RT, TCU
RD 5 (169) - Corn Elder, CB Miami
RD 6 (188) - Chad Kelly, QB Ole Miss - (Why? Because Texans are in QB Hell! Take a chance on the DNA and the best arm in this draft w/ a 6th RD pick, he spends a year on IR, maybe he can grow up, mature and get his temper and anger management under control, possible day 2 draft trade in 3 years if he's not the man.)
RD 7 (243) - Khalid Abdullah, RB James Madison (Lightning to Foreman's Thunder)
Did I miss something in your trade? We don't have a 6th rd pick this year due to the Brock trade with Cleveland! So, you can pour more salt in that wound!![]()
I love this one.So the 2016 FUBAR has now been extended thru 2018.
***REVISED PRE DRAFT MOCK - 04/19/2017:****
PICK #25, The Texans are on the clock. WE HAVE A TRADE!
The Texans have traded their 1st RD, 25th pick and their 3rd RD, 89th pick to the San Francisco 49ers for their 2nd RD. 34th pick, 3rd RD. 66th pick and 4th RD. 109th pick. (San Francisco selects; Patrick Mahomes) SF has a bigger void at QB than Texans, moved up for a QB 5 yr. contract. Points, Texans = 865; SF = 896
With the 34th pick in 2017 NFL Draft the Houston Texans select:
RD 2 (34) - Nathan Peterman, QB Pittsburgh, 5th Year Senior (My favorite QB in this draft, IMHO, best feet and release, many comparisons to Kirk Cousins, see Clemson and Penn St games)
RD 2 (57) -D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas
RD 3 (66) - Jumaine Elemunor, RT/OG, Texas A&M
RD 4 (109) - Justin Evans, SS, Texas A&M
RD 4 (131) - Aviante Collins, RT, TCU
RD 5 (169) - Corn Elder, CB Miami
RD 6 (188) - Chad Kelly, QB Ole Miss - (Why? Because Texans are in QB Hell! Take a chance on the DNA and the best arm in this draft w/ a 6th RD pick, he spends a year on IR, maybe he can grow up, mature and get his temper and anger management under control, possible day 2 draft trade in 3 years if he's not the man.)
RD 7 (243) - Khalid Abdullah, RB James Madison (Lightning to Foreman's Thunder)
***REVISED***REVISED PRE DRAFT MOCK - 04/20/2017:****
PICK #25, The Texans are on the clock. WE HAVE A TRADE!
The Texans have traded their 1st RD, 25th pick and their 3rd RD, 89th pick to the San Francisco 49ers for their 2nd RD. 34th pick, 3rd RD. 66th pick and 4th RD. 109th pick. (San Francisco selects; Patrick Mahomes) SF has a bigger void at QB than Texans, moved up for a QB 5 yr. contract. Points, Texans = 865; SF = 896
With the 34th pick in 2017 NFL Draft the Houston Texans select:
RD 2 (34) - Nathan Peterman, QB Pittsburgh, 5th Year Senior (My favorite QB in this draft, IMHO, best feet and release, many comparisons to Kirk Cousins, see Clemson and Penn St games)
RD 2 (57) -D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas
RD 3 (66) - Jumaine Elemunor, RT/OG, Texas A&M
RD 4 (109) - Justin Evans, SS, Texas A&M
RD 4 (130) - Aviante Collins, RT, TCU
RD 4 (142) - Corn Elder, CB Miami
RD 5 (169) - Chad Kelly, QB Ole Miss - (Why? Because Texans are in QB Hell! Take a chance on the DNA and the best arm in this draft w/ a 6th RD pick, he spends a year on IR, maybe he can grow up, mature and get his temper and anger management under control, possible day 2 draft trade in 3 years if he's not the man.)
RD 7 (243) - Khalid Abdullah, RB James Madison (Lightning to Foreman's Thunder)
Texian, I like this trade idea and will take a crack at creating a draft around this scenario:
You're happy with the QB's we have? Or do you want to sacrifice this year and "we'll get one NEXT YEAR" yet again?
And who's gonna play RT? Or is the plan to rely on Clark & Lamm again? Do we need another C/G more?
My thoughts on Perine is he's NOT very productive in yards after contact. His legs have tendency to go dead when engaged.
You do you and I'll do me. I was chumming the waters his weekend, I guess you are one of the bitter fish that took the bait?You need to get off Tom Peterman Brady nutsalong w/first love Bortles.
You do you and I'll do me. I was chumming the waters his weekend, I guess you are one of the bitter fish that took the bait?
This would have been my 2017 draft Live! as it happened, there was no looking back, it was as it happened.
Actually just hearing that John Lynch was trying to trade up in to the 20s for Rueben Foster. He was afraid Saints were trying to do the same. Payton confirmed Saints would've taken Foster if he was on the board. I would have traded back with Lynch and the 49ers.
Texans trade their 1st RD, 25th pick and their 3rd RD, 89th pick to the San Francisco 49ers for their 2nd RD. 34th pick, 3rd RD. 66th pick and 4th RD. 109th pick.
RD 2 (34) Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama
RD 2 (57) Nathan Peterman, QB, Pittsburgh
RD 3 (66) D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas
RD 4 (109) Jermaine Eluemunor, OG/OT, Texas A&M
RD 4 (130) Xavier Woods, S, LA Tech
RD 4 (142) Nate Hairston, CB, Temple
RD 5 (169) Chad Kelly, QB, Ole Miss
RD 7 (249) Khalid Abdullah, RB, James Madison
Marathe asked: “What if Foster falls, free falls, and he's sitting there at 25?”
“To me, that's easy,” said Shanahan. “Get him.”
“He's not getting past Cincy [with the ninth pick in the first round], though,” Lynch said.
“I think he is getting past Cincy,” Shanahan said. “I don't think he's getting past [Ravens GM] Ozzie [Newsome at 16].”
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/05/01/...aft-room-bears-trade-reuben-foster-peter-king
One single decision maker for all football operations NOT a Kumbaya. John Lynch vs Bob McNair. Who do you like?Wow, that's amazing. Lynch, the GM, Shanahan, the HC, & Marathe, the strategist... that's almost like a boardroom making decisions kind of things.
This would have been my 2017 draft Live! as it happened, there was no looking back, it was as it happened.
Actually just hearing that John Lynch was trying to trade up in to the 20s for Rueben Foster. He was afraid Saints were trying to do the same. Payton confirmed Saints would've taken Foster if he was on the board. I would have traded back from #25 with Lynch and the 49ers.
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/05/01/...aft-room-bears-trade-reuben-foster-peter-king
Texans trade their 1st RD, 25th pick and their 3rd RD, 89th pick to the San Francisco 49ers for their 2nd RD. 34th pick, 3rd RD. 66th pick and 4th RD. 109th pick.
RD 2 (34) Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama
RD 2 (57) Nathan Peterman, QB, Pittsburgh
RD 3 (66) D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas
RD 4 (109) Jermaine Eluemunor, OG/OT, Texas A&M
RD 4 (130) Xavier Woods, S, LA Tech
RD 4 (142) Nate Hairston, CB, Temple
RD 5 (169) Chad Kelly, QB, Ole Miss
RD 7 (249) Khalid Abdullah, RB, James Madison
This would have been my 2017 draft Live! as it happened, there was no looking back, it was as it happened.
Actually just hearing that John Lynch was trying to trade up in to the 20s for Rueben Foster. He was afraid Saints were trying to do the same. Payton confirmed Saints would've taken Foster if he was on the board. I would have traded back from #25 with Lynch and the 49ers.
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/05/01/...aft-room-bears-trade-reuben-foster-peter-king
Texans trade their 1st RD, 25th pick and their 3rd RD, 89th pick to the San Francisco 49ers for their 2nd RD. 34th pick, 3rd RD. 66th pick and 4th RD. 109th pick.
RD 2 (34) Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama
RD 2 (57) Nathan Peterman, QB, Pittsburgh
RD 3 (66) D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas
RD 4 (109) Jermaine Eluemunor, OG/OT, Texas A&M
RD 4 (130) Xavier Woods, S, LA Tech
RD 4 (142) Nate Hairston, CB, Temple
RD 5 (169) Chad Kelly, QB, Ole Miss
RD 7 (249) Khalid Abdullah, RB, James Madison
The Dallas Cowboys may have unearthed a gem in the sixth round with the selection of Louisiana Tech safety Xavier Woods who has been turning heads so far
https://nflspinzone.com/2017/08/16/dallas-cowboys-xavier-woods-turning-heads-making-plays/
Hairston may be the leading candidate to win the slot cornerback role, the Indianapolis Star reports
https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/colts-nate-hairston-could-win-slot-cornerback-role/