Honestly, the thread is just this side of lockable.
and one poster expecting others to acknowledge that his subjective opinion is correct is laughable.
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Honestly, the thread is just this side of lockable.
and one poster expecting others to acknowledge that his subjective opinion is correct is laughable.
A player with a long history of injury isn't a risk?
That is not an opinion; it is fact.
NO ONE SAID IT ISN'T A RISK!!!
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
I don't 76 is looking for anyone to agree that his point of view is correct or the only right course, I think it's just to acknowledge that it is a point. We should know that he will go to great lengths to get his point across. I kind of find his tenacity amusing with all the information (useful) he provides and I will still think he is dead a$$ wrong at times.
I've been looking up Britt's injury history, as well as his performance record; here I will start by listing the details.
You guys can ask Doc CNND to give his thoughts.
2012
Reported as having surgery for Jones fracture on his left foot in the summer.
The time table for the injury is normally 6-8 weeks (Doc can elaborate).
www.stltoday.com
He would come back in the fall.
missouri.rivals.com
You guys can ask Doc CNND to give his thoughts.
2012
Reported as having surgery for Jones fracture on his left foot in the summer.
The time table for the injury is normally 6-8 weeks (Doc can elaborate).
Mizzou hurting on offensive line
Missouri is dealing with a rash of injuries on its offensive line less than a week after the start of training camp.
He would come back in the fall.
PowerMizzou - Saturday Practice Report
Fall camp enters its final week. <i>PowerMizzou.com</I> has been there every step of the way and has the latest from Saturday's workout, including th
missouri.rivals.com
Same year, 2012.
November.
Missed the rest of the season.
I think it was 3-1/2 games.
Suffer an ACL that requires surgery.
kansascity.sbnation.com
"ACL surgery and maybe more".
This is his first ACL surgery and not his last.
November.
Missed the rest of the season.
I think it was 3-1/2 games.
Suffer an ACL that requires surgery.
Justin Britt out for the season
Missouri starting RT Justin Britt is done for the season after tearing his ACL against Florida.
kansascity.sbnation.com
"ACL surgery and maybe more".
This is his first ACL surgery and not his last.
2015 January
Suffered knee injury in Div Rd Playoff.
Missed the NFC Championship Game.
Did play in the SB.
www.sbnation.com
Suffered knee injury in Div Rd Playoff.
Missed the NFC Championship Game.
Did play in the SB.
Seahawks injury report for Super Bowl 2015
The Seattle Seahawks are entering Super Bowl XLIX without many concerning injuries.
www.sbnation.com
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
No at this point we are completely into
territory. I'm not even sure what his point is, at first i thought it was that Caserio made a bad signing, then that Justin Britt would be a bad center, then that he will be injured again now I have no clue what the hell his point is. Whats more I really, really don't care.
Texazan
Our HOF 34
Morning, noon and night also, very impressive. I wake up he’s posting about Britt, lunchtime it’s Britt and then before I crash for the night.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Bro, the guy YOU highlighted has a longer history of injury than Britt does. In fact, his injury history was a major factor in why the Panthers decided to move on. 2015-18 He missed 24 games in 4 years. You know how many Britt missed in that time?.....1. Hell, even with him missing 8 last year, he still hasn't missed as many as Williams.
I've got NFL gamepass which allows you to go back and watch NFL games and All-22 game tape as far back as 2009. so i've been going back, watching some of Britt's games...watched the game he was injured in against ATL. And now that you've brought this Williams dude up i will go & watch him.
Oh, & i brought up the Pats trading for Trent Brown again b/c it illustrates what i'm saying about how you're overvaluing this Williams dude. The Pats would rather go out and pay Brown 11 million to come in & play 1 of their tackle positions than try to go after this Williams kid. That and the fact that he's back on the market, tells me that those in the know don't even believe that he's as good of a value as you apparently do.
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banned1976
sleeper mode
That's more reasonable.
2016
Nov 24
New ankle injury vs Eagles wk 1
Missed week 12
Nov 24
New ankle injury vs Eagles wk 1
Missed week 12
2017
Oct 23
Low ankle sprain vs Giants wk 7
www.fieldgulls.com
On injury report through Nov 3, missed some practices.
seahawkswire.usatoday.com
He soldiered on, but his play suffered as reported.
Oct 23
Low ankle sprain vs Giants wk 7
Justin Britt sprained his ankle against the Giants, status for Sunday uncertain
Fears of a high ankle sprain causing Britt to miss a month brought fear to many fans.
www.fieldgulls.com
Seahawks center Justin Britt returned to full practice on Thursday
Seattle Seahawks center Justin Britt played through Sunday’s game against the Houston Texans although he was still battling an ankle injury. “Yeah, he wasn’t a hundred percent,” c…
seahawkswire.usatoday.com
2018
Aug 4 (Pre Season)
Tweaked backs and missed some practices.
Sep 17
Shoulder injury PS game vs Bears.
Play through both injuries, but at a cost.
www.seahawks.com
Sep 28
Off the injury list.
The injury was deemed as "nasty" and affected his play, as reflected in his PFF grade.
Aug 4 (Pre Season)
Tweaked backs and missed some practices.
Sep 17
Shoulder injury PS game vs Bears.
Play through both injuries, but at a cost.
Justin Britt Active For Seahawks vs Cowboys
Despite not practicing this week, center Justin Britt is active for Sunday's home opener against Dallas.
www.seahawks.com
Sep 28
Off the injury list.
The injury was deemed as "nasty" and affected his play, as reflected in his PFF grade.
2019
Knee injury in game 8 that required another ACL Surgery. Out of the NFL until now.
Pete Carroll called it a major one.
It was suspected that he may have incurred the injury as early as week 1.
A Sept 12 injury report listed him with a knee injury and he had missed some practices then.
www.cbssports.com
Knee injury in game 8 that required another ACL Surgery. Out of the NFL until now.
Pete Carroll called it a major one.
It was suspected that he may have incurred the injury as early as week 1.
A Sept 12 injury report listed him with a knee injury and he had missed some practices then.
Justin Britt, Houston Texans, C - Fantasy Football News, Stats
Get the latest fantasy news, stats, and injury updates for Houston Texans C Justin Britt from CBS Sports
www.cbssports.com
Just the first part:
Again, I want to reiterate that bringing up Williams is not to compare their plays.
Actually, Britt has a more lengthy injury history as I had detailed in the above posts.
Regardless, the point is to offer as little guaranteed money as possible to a player with an injury history.
So 2M signing bonus and 75K per game roster bonus.
That's better.
But I wonder what the 1.8M (to take the contract to a max of 5M) is for.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
2017
Oct 23
Low ankle sprain vs Giants wk 7
On injury report through Nov 3, missed some practices.Justin Britt sprained his ankle against the Giants, status for Sunday uncertain
Fears of a high ankle sprain causing Britt to miss a month brought fear to many fans.
He soldiered on, but his play suffered as reported.Seahawks center Justin Britt returned to full practice on Thursday
Seattle Seahawks center Justin Britt played through Sunday’s game against the Houston Texans although he was still battling an ankle injury. “Yeah, he wasn’t a hundred percent,” c…
Those ankle sprains tend to do that. Chris Myers injured his ankle going into the 2009 season but still came back to start the season & game 1 Kris Jenkins made him look like a high schooler & ragdolled him all game long. Fans here were about ready to throw in the towel on Myers. We all know what Myers went on to be with this franchise.
So what is your thoughts watching him play?
(Forget about Williams; we're not comparing their play)
I found out last night that the two of PFF high grades that I had mentioned were PBE (Pass Blocking Efficiency); not his overall grade.
I will get to that later.
When I get back in town, I plan to watch some of his game films, too.
But in the meantime; I'm all ears.
Yes. I'm well aware of that.
We just don't know how much of an affect it could add to his other injuries though.
I'm hoping Doc CNND will take a look at it.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Really too early for me to give anything other than the contrasts physically. Britt looks to be much sturdier/stronger in the trunk area than Martin. He also plays with a better base imo; feet are always spaced well.
Britt is a bigger guy.
What I've been reading is that at Center, he's a better pass blocker than a run blocker in their zone scheme. His worse area seems to be in space (on the second level).
I wonder how much zone the SeaHawks were running in these particular years.
I don't think the Texans run much of a zone scheme, so maybe this will suit his skill set better?
When you have more time to watch, let us know.
Dejaview
All Pro
maybe it’s my imagination but seems NC has been making good decisions since he’s arrived. Maybe in a couple of years if he keeps it up a few folks may quit complaining about him. On the other hand I find him an interesting read and am quite interested in this rebuild process now.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Other than re-signing Johnson and cutting Martin, what has he done really? Hell, he didn’t even get to hire his HC.
With their cap situation they won’t do much in free agency. Their draft situation is limited. And their All-Pro QB is likely sitting out. Yeah, he didn’t tag Fuller, but he couldn’t really afford to if he wanted to. That would have eaten every bit of cap they have left.
Gonna be a minute before we really have a chance to see what he’s about, and more importantly, at least to me, to see if he’s really just a puppet of the Pastor or not. If he is, he’s going to have limitations simply on the pool of players he can draw from. That’s going to make this attempt at a resurrection of this franchise very long and drawn out, and very likely unsuccessful.
Just my opinion of course, but right now there just isn’t anything to judge him on either way.
Good, but the sample size is small.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Good signing, hopefully he can stay healthy
It's way too early to make any kind of a call on NC.
That much I had stated a few times (including in other threads).
Dejaview
All Pro
Is in my book.
Feel free to entertain us in the Nick Caserio's thread.
I am, so knock it off.
It's not the Pastor
It's the McNair's and its been this way since way before the pastor got here.
We didn't see that out of Martin and infact we saw Fulton pushing martin over in the area he was supposed to be blocking.
Dejaview
All Pro
why. You seem to be quite capable of having mindless conversations with yourself.
Just put this for future reference.
The Chiefs are remaking their Oline.
One of them is the UFA Center Austin Reiler, who had consistently graded above 70 for 3 consecutive years.
www.si.com
Missed a few games last year due to an ankle injury.
Still, the Chiefs got a bargain by picking him up.
He only costs them $5M for 28 starts the last two years (and was a cheap back up with a few starts in 2018).
We'll see how it goes on the market.
The Chiefs are remaking their Oline.
One of them is the UFA Center Austin Reiler, who had consistently graded above 70 for 3 consecutive years.
Where the Kansas City Chiefs fall in PFF's Offensive Line Rankings
In their latest collection of positional unit grades, Pro Football Focus has ranked all 32 NFL teams' offensive lines. Where did the Kansas City Chiefs fall?
www.si.com
Missed a few games last year due to an ankle injury.
Still, the Chiefs got a bargain by picking him up.
He only costs them $5M for 28 starts the last two years (and was a cheap back up with a few starts in 2018).
We'll see how it goes on the market.
https://overthecap.com/player/justin-britt/3003
So the early information regarding Britt's contract was totally wrong. He doesn't get $3.2M guaranteed outright.
He gets only $500K signing bonus.
If he makes the team, he earns another $1.5M plus the 75K per game roster bonus.
This is much much better than it was originally painted.
Currently, it's 20th in pay, but only if he makes it through 16 games.
(And the pay should get lower as another hand full FA Centers are supposed to get a bump in their pay in the coming days.)
So all this "rant" is for nothing.
There's NO BIG RISk associated with this signing.
I hereby withdraw my complaint.
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michaelm
vox nihili
https://overthecap.com/player/justin-britt/3003
So the early information regarding Britt's contract was totally wrong. He doesn't get $3.2M guaranteed outright.
He gets only $500K signing bonus.
If he makes the team, he earns another $1.5M plus the 75K per game roster bonus.
This is much much better than it was originally painted.
Currently, it's 20nd in pay, but only if he makes it through 16 games.
(And the pay should get lower as another hand full FA Centers are supposed to get a bump in their pay in the coming days.)
So all this "rant" is for nothing.
There's NO BIG RISk associated with this signing.
I hereby withdraw my complaint.
I'm betting that quite a few of these recent journeyman type signings are structured similarly
That's why I was perplexed by the original report. It seemed so out of whack.
If so would you consider those deals to be good deals?
So are you saying this guy was available a few weeks ago and we should have signed him?Just put this for future reference.
The Chiefs are remaking their Oline.
One of them is the UFA Center Austin Reiler, who had consistently graded above 70 for 3 consecutive years.
Where the Kansas City Chiefs fall in PFF's Offensive Line Rankings
In their latest collection of positional unit grades, Pro Football Focus has ranked all 32 NFL teams' offensive lines. Where did the Kansas City Chiefs fall?
Missed a few games last year due to an ankle injury.
Still, the Chiefs got a bargain by picking him up.
He only costs them $5M for 28 starts the last two years (and was a cheap back up with a few starts in 2018).
We'll see how it goes on the market.
I thought that was understood when the announced the signings saying the contract is worth up to whatever.
The original report called for up to $5M for the year.
Yes, he's mulling a couple of offers at the moment.
PFF grade for the last 3 years: 74.2, 79.2 (9th), 70.9
The Chiefs got him on the cheap for an average of $2M per year.
So he's like an average center in the league, and will get a pay raise.
michaelm
vox nihili
Generally, I think it's a good way to aquire FA, so in that sense I would be favorable to most of the deals but it's really a case by case basis kind of thing.
Obviously the deals are better with limited or no guaranteed money. And that's what I'm hoping is the case for the majority of the signings. Cut bait it they don't play to the standard of the contract. In the meantime, you've got a lot of veteran competition.
michaelm
vox nihili
Honestly I wasn't paying attention enough that I caught that phrasing on most of the signings