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Jay Cutler or Tony Romo; if you had to start one next year on our team which do you take?

I'm leaning Cutler.
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patrick‏Verified account@PatDStat 4m4 minutes ago


Texans had a volume pass catching attack. Had over 90 receptions as a TE group, only 2 catches over 25+ yards. Need a playmaker there.

Poor argument from Patrick. Do we not have playmaker WRs either? They didn't have lots of 25+ yd plays to anyone. That was mainly play calling and QB play.

Before last year our TEs were invisible. Suddenly last year same group popped into view. That was play calling and QB play too.
 
patrick‏Verified account@PatDStat 4m4 minutes ago


Texans had a volume pass catching attack. Had over 90 receptions as a TE group, only 2 catches over 25+ yards. Need a playmaker there.

Slow news day when you complain about the one part of the offense last season that actually looked good.

Not to mention it is selective analysis to try to prove a point. TE's had 115 receptions, slightly more than "over 90 receptions" and they had nine catches for 20+ yards. But let's choose the 25+ category because that creates the talking point.
 
Slow news day when you complain about the one part of the offense last season that actually looked good.

Not to mention it is selective analysis to try to prove a point. TE's had 115 receptions, slightly more than "over 90 receptions" and they had nine catches for 20+ yards. But let's choose the 25+ category because that creates the talking point.

Still, 9 out of 115... the point is the same.

I do agree with 'cak... QB play & play calling would have helped as well, but... I'd still like to see TEs & WRs who can catch & scoot. Despite what they've had at the QB position & play calling, I'm not seeing broken tackles or making people miss.

Maybe they can do it with better QB play, better play calling. But I haven't seen anything to suggest any of these guys are any good at breaking tackles, or making guys miss.
 
True.
This is why Texans missed Foster so much last season - a true dual threat back is very dangerous and opens up more options and this is why I would not be upset if Texans took Christian McCaffrey at #25.
 
Still, 9 out of 115... the point is the same.

I do agree with 'cak... QB play & play calling would have helped as well, but... I'd still like to see TEs & WRs who can catch & scoot. Despite what they've had at the QB position & play calling, I'm not seeing broken tackles or making people miss.

Maybe they can do it with better QB play, better play calling. But I haven't seen anything to suggest any of these guys are any good at breaking tackles, or making guys miss.

I hear what you are saying... but is lack of 20+ catches by TE *really* what is wrong with this offense? Seems like there is much, much lower fruit to pick. I'll let them be volume guys if they get the WR's to get some separation, a QB that can put the ball where it needs to be, and a running game that doesn't disappear in the RZ.

Like I said, slow news days lead to these kinds of tweets where a positive aspect of the offense gets turned on its head.

But we are talking about it. Which was probably his intent.
 
True.
This is why Texans missed Foster so much last season - a true dual threat back is very dangerous and opens up more options and this is why I would not be upset if Texans took Christian McCaffrey at #25.

Arian, Andre, OD, & Jacoby.

I know Andre wasn't breaking ankles out there, but he was breaking tackles. Andre gots some YAC. & people hate on Jacoby, but he scared the bejesus out of opposing defenses. He pulled coverage from Andre & when he got the ball... maybe I'm just remembering what I want, but it seemed like he played faster than his 4.4 speed.
 
I hear what you are saying... but is lack of 20+ catches by TE *really* what is wrong with this offense? Seems like there is much, much lower fruit to pick.

I don't care where we get it from. This offense lacks explosiveness. TE is just as likely a spot to get it from as WR or RB.
 
I don't care where we get it from. This offense lacks explosiveness. TE is just as likely a spot to get it from as WR or RB.

Not disagreeing with you at all. Every position on the field can play better mantra and all. It just seems odd to tweet something in a negative tone about the TE's when they were at the bottom of the list of Things That Went Wrong With The Texans Offense in 2016.
 
Not disagreeing with you at all. Every position on the field can play better mantra and all. It just seems odd to tweet something in a negative tone about the TE's when they were at the bottom of the list of Things That Went Wrong With The Texans Offense in 2016.

Maybe. But this is March. Probably getting tired of posting about Brock.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar tweet about our running game. Good... but not good enough.

This game is won by play makers. People focus on the QBs, but anything that flips the field... turnovers, special teams, explosive plays, we should talk about all those things.

I'm a rose colored glasses kinda dude, but in the off-season, it's all fair game.
 
Andre wasn't breaking ankles out there, but he was breaking tackles. Andre gots some YAC.

Reminds me of the TD catch in Arizona, Andre straight up trucked them fools into the end zone. And the YAC he got in OT against the jags at home a few years back was great. Not too sure he even had contact on that catch. Doesn't matter, it was epic anyway.
 
Texans find an improving QB class but weak OTs at combine
By John McClain

March 6, 2017


It has been three years since Texans defensive end Jadeveon Clowney participated in the NFL Scouting Combine, but he got a lot of attention in Indianapolis over the weekend.

That's because Texas A&M defensive end Myles Garrett stole the show at this year's combine. His extraordinary athleticism is drawing comparisons to Clowney and his impressive performance in 2014.

In his third season, Clowney was healthy for the first time and was voted to the Pro Bowl and the All-Pro Team after helping the Texans finish first in defense and win the AFC South.

Like Clowney in 2014, Garrett is expected to be the first overall pick by the Cleveland Browns.

Garrett, 6-4, 272, ran the 40-yard dash in 4.64. He had a 41-inch vertical jump, benched 225 pounds 33 times and performed every drill effortlessly.

"I thought he was outstanding," NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock said. "He was smooth in all the drills. When healthy, (he's) the most explosive edge rusher in this draft.

"He compares athletically very favorably to Jadeveon Clowney. They both have freakishly long arms. If you think 4.64 is freakish, look at what Clowney ran (4.53). If he's not the first pick in the draft, you're going to have to have a major reason why."

Led by general manager Rick Smith and coach Bill O'Brien, the Texans' contingent that included members of the personnel, coaching and medical staffs returned to Houston knowing several things about this draft.

Of the four positions the Texans may need to target - depending on what happens in free agency that officially begins Thursday - the quarterbacks are improving, but there are no immediate starters.

Offensive tackle is one of the weakest positions. There's exceptional depth at cornerback and safety. Outside linebackers are plentiful and tight end is loaded.

Everyone knows the Texans are looking for a quarterback, perhaps a free agent or possibly a draft choice. They also need a right tackle.

If they lose cornerback A.J. Bouye, outside linebacker John Simon and tight end Ryan Griffin in free agency, they'll have to be replaced.

Bouye is one of the NFL's premier free agents. The Texans are making every effort to re-sign him, but they have a budget and aren't loaded with cap room as they were last year when they signed quarterback Brock Osweiler, running back Lamar Miller and guard Jeff Allen.

If they lose Bouye, expect them to replace him in the draft.

"It's the best corner and safety class I've seen in 10 years," Mayock said. "I had some coaches tell me that they will get a guy in the fifth round that should go in the second round."

As an example, UConn safety Obi Melifonwu, who is 6-4, 225, put on a show Monday, running a 4.46, measuring 44 inches in the vertical jump and 11-9 in the broad jump plus bench pressing 225 pounds with 17 reps.

The quarterback who got the most attention at the combine was Clemson's Deshawn Watson. Not only did he make every throw, but also he impressed teams with his football knowledge and his ability to disseminate what they threw at him during their meetings.

Watson could be on his way to replacing North Carolina's Mitchell - not Mitch - Trubisky as the top-rated quarterback. Other quarterbacks with a chance to be drafted in the first round are Notre Dame's DeShone Kizer and Texas Tech's Patrick Mahomes.

Another former Red Raiders' quarterback, Davis Webb of California, did a terrific job of throwing, according to the scouts, and may have elevated his ranking.

Every team has a need for speed, and the fastest players usually create the biggest buzz at the combine.

Whether it's Washington receiver John Ross setting a combine record (4.22) – since times became official – in the 40-yard dash or Ole Miss tight end Evan Engram running a 4.42, there were a lot of prospects who impressed the scouts with their speed.

The Texans aren't in the market for a receiver, but they could be for a tight end. If they lose Griffin, they'll need a tight end to compete with Stephen Anderson for playing time behind C.J. Fiedorowicz.

As always, there were a lot of risers and fallers at the combine.

The two-biggest fallers were Alabama defensive players.

Inside linebacker Reuben Foster was sent home after getting into a heated argument with a worker at a hospital while waiting to undergo his physical. He apologized and will have a chance to explain himself to scouts at Alabama's pro day this week. He's still going to be a high first-round pick.

Tim Williams, a defensive end who also should go in the first round, admitted he'd failed a number of drug tests in college.

The two-biggest hard-luck cases were Texas running back D'Onta Foreman and Tennessee edge rusher Derek Barnett.

Foreman's physical uncovered a slight stress fracture in his left foot that he didn't know he had. The NFL wouldn't let him work out, even though he offered to sign a waiver. He'll have to impress them at Texas' pro day.

Barnett, who's expected to go in the top half of the first round, became ill and couldn't work out when he was supposed to or do his media session. He gamely ran the 40 in 4.85 the next day, but no one held it against him.

Three prospects whose performances may have helped them jump into the first round were Temple linebacker Haason Reddick, Wisconsin outside linebacker T.J. Watt and Kansas State edge rusher Jordan Willis.

Based on their combine performances, three small-college players to watch in the draft are Ashland tight end Adam Shaheen, Marian receiver Krishawn Hogan and Charlotte defensive tackle Larry Ogunjobi.
 
2 different positions and what you might save on Lechler for a dime store punter won't get a pinkie toe on a OT.

2 pinkies and the remaining cap space would've gotten you Wagner.

My point is neither of these guys are that good where they couldn't be replaced by a rookie/vet min. Think Josh Brown would take the vet min and be an upgrade?
 
2 pinkies and the remaining cap space would've gotten you Wagner.

My point is neither of these guys are that good where they couldn't be replaced by a rookie/vet min. Think Josh Brown would take the vet min and be an upgrade?

Lechler is 18th in pay.
Brown got $300k more last year.
 
The NEW Official League Year begins today at 3:00PM Houston Time:

March 7-9 -- Clubs are permitted to contact, and enter into contract negotiations with the certified agents of players who will become Unrestricted Free Agents upon the expiration of their 2016 Player Contracts at 4:00 p.m., New York time, on March 9. However, a contract cannot be executed with a new club until 4:00 p.m., New York time, on March 9.

March 9
-- Prior to 4:00 p.m., New York time, clubs must exercise options for 2017 on all players who have option clauses in their 2016 contracts.

March 9 -- Prior to 4:00 p.m., New York time, clubs must submit qualifying offers to their Restricted Free Agents with expiring contracts and to whom they desire to retain a Right of First Refusal/Compensation.

March 9 -- Prior to 4:00 p.m., New York time, clubs must submit a Minimum Salary Tender to retain exclusive negotiating rights to their players with expiring 2016 contracts and who have fewer than three accrued seasons of free agency credit.

March 9 -- Top-51 Begins. All clubs must be under the 2017 salary cap prior to 4:00 p.m., New York time.

March 9 -- All 2016 player contracts will expire at 4:00 p.m., New York time.

March 9 -- The 2017 league year and free agency period begin at 4:00 p.m., New York time.

The first day of the 2017 league year will end at 11:59:59 p.m., New York time, on March 9. Clubs will receive a personnel notice that will include all transactions submitted to the league office during the period between 4:00 p.m., New York time, and 11:59:59 p.m., New York time, on March 9.

March 9 -- Trading period for 2017 begins at 4:00 p.m., New York time, after expiration of all 2016 contracts.
 
Poor argument from Patrick. Do we not have playmaker WRs either? They didn't have lots of 25+ yd plays to anyone. That was mainly play calling and QB play.

Before last year our TEs were invisible. Suddenly last year same group popped into view. That was play calling and QB play too.

Let's put 'popped into view' into perspective. They didn't **** the bed.
 
Wasn't he injured recently? I remember him being one of the top young LBs 2-3 years ago but concerned why he fell off.
In 2015, he was dealing with hamstring issues through ~1/2 of the season. Because of the change in coach and D scheme, he was very lightly used. But the only injury he dealt with last season was a broken nose in week 2. His limited use rather than his broken nose undoubtedly accounted for him not being able to "sniff" out the opposing QBs as often as in the past.:)
 
Well looks like one of the promising 2017 Draft CB Sidney Jones just got wiped out at his Pro Day with from what I can tell is an Achilles rupture.
 
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