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Interesting. That would mean one of our three guys would either change positions or not be on the team anymore.


Eric Edholm‏ @Eric_Edholm
Another team in Malcolm Butler mix: #Texans. Source said they're interested in sending 2nd-rd pick to NE if can get Butler signed long term
 
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...nkings-free-agency-pushing-giants-toward-no-1

Looks like Romo's the right move if we're concerned about power rankings:

Why 18th? Because the Texans don't have a quarterback. Yes, Brock Osweiler was bad. But withTom Savage and his history of injuries, Houston might actually not have a quarterback. At all. Well, Brandon Weeden is there. Moving along ... Felt that the Texansbailed too early on Brian Hoyer, while admitting I was in the minority on that deal -- but you can't tell me you haven't thought it. The defense was indeed ranked at the top of the league ( in yards, not points allowed), thoughthe loss of A.J. Bouye is palpable. Know what else will be? This team flying up the rankings if it acquires youknowwho. HINT: He loves Bob Dylan.
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18th seems about right to me. Makes sense that we're behind Tennessee as well -- they have a qb and (2) 1st round picks ahead of us.
 
Max said:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...nkings-free-agency-pushing-giants-toward-no-1

Looks like Romo's the right move if we're concerned about power rankings:



18th seems about right to me. Makes sense that we're behind Tennessee as well -- they have a qb and (2) 1st round picks ahead of us.
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Had Mariota ever beaten us? Has he even looked good when he did play us?

I know he had a handful of good games last season & it stands to reason he'll have a handful & then some next season.

& I like their roster... but they're not "ahead" of us just because they have a QB.

O'b can, has, & will beat them with one hand tied behind his back.
 
thunderkyss said:
Had Mariota ever beaten us? Has he even looked good when he did play us?

I know he had a handful of good games last season & it stands to reason he'll have a handful & then some next season.

& I like their roster... but they're not "ahead" of us just because they have a QB.

O'b can, has, & will beat them with one hand tied behind his back.
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I'll drink to that. :koolaid:
 

Hell, might as well kept Charles James. After all, a corner is a corner right? Just plug & play.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
You''re feeling a little better about our GM not making an overtly stupid move..........lose another 2nd round pick and pay through the nose on top of that?
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In short, yes. But the trade in context of other moves is what was getting to me. Get outbid for Bouye -- ok, we're frugal. Find out we're not linked to pursuing Gilmore who was available without giving up picks and got paid Bouye $ - ok, we're frugal so not in the market. But then the news that we're giving up a 2nd for someone that will presumably get paid at least Bouye/Gilmore $ and give up a 2nd in the process? Even if he is better than either Bouye or Gilmore -- is it possible to be that much better to give up a 2nd and pay him that $? The trade in isolation may not be so bad as some here have argued, but in context, crazy. So yes, feeling relief that we aren't that stupid. And yes, I catch the sarcasm intended in implying that my statement is understated, but looking at the even bigger picture of trading a 2nd to clear cap space and the potential stupidity of that if we don't use it -- I stand by my statement -- I'm feeling a little better about our gm.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
You''re feeling a little better about our GM not making an overtly stupid move..........lose another 2nd round pick and pay through the nose on top of that?
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I re-looked at this and it looks like I misunderstood what you're saying. Given that it was reported yesterday that we were open to trading a 2nd for Butler and I was under that impression for a day and your article contradicted that report -- not sure what I'm being called out on since you seem to feel it was a bad idea as well.
 
Max said:
I re-looked at this and it looks like I misunderstood what you're saying. Given that it was reported yesterday that we were open to trading a 2nd for Butler and I was under that impression for a day and your article contradicted that report -- not sure what I'm being called out on since you seem to feel it was a bad idea as well.
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Did not try to "call you out." Just emphasized that under no circumstances could I give Kudos to Smith for not even entertaining a terriible transaction. That's like praising someone for not entertaining committing suicide. These are actions expected under normal circumstances.
 
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Did not try to "call you out." Just emphasized that under no circumstances could I give Kudos to Smith for not even entertaining a terriible transaction. That's like praising someone for not entertaining committing suicide. These are actions expected under normal circumstances.
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Agreed. My expression was more relief that we're not as stupid as reported than praise.
 
If the Texans draft Trubisky, they should change their name to the Breakfast Club. Mr. Biscuits will be leading a team that is covered by Pancakes and the defense brings home the bacon!!. :D
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The Texans are still the only team in the NFL to have not signed a free agent that was with another team at the end of last season.
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Looks to me that they have their eye on a possibly very expensive acquisition that may absorb most of their space or a significant portion thereof - forcing them to wait to see how much they have left for any other acquisitions.
 
Texansphan said:
Looks to me that they have their eye on a possibly very expensive acquisition that may absorb most of their space or a significant portion thereof - forcing them to wait to see how much they have left for any other acquisitions.
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They have enough $$$$ to add Romo and a couple of more pieces.
 
steelbtexan said:
They have enough $$$$ to add Romo and a couple of more pieces.
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True, but if they are prepared to fight for Romo, and possibly overspend, it will determine how much they have left to divide among the holes they have left and how much they can spend on each.
Plus they must also pay their rookies they draft.
I don't really care if you disagree - just interested to see what you think is the reason they haven't signed anyone.
(Keep in mind they did try for that OL and got beat out.)
 
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Nuk still needs a contract. People want to talk about Clowney needing one in 2 years but our best weapon on offense needs one this year.
 
Texansphan said:
True, but if they are prepared to fight for Romo, and possibly overspend, it will determine how much they have left to divide among the holes they have left and how much they can spend on each.
Plus they must also pay their rookies they draft.
I don't really care if you disagree - just interested to see what you think is the reason they haven't signed anyone.
(Keep in mind they did try for that OL and got beat out.)
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They didn't try the Remmers didn't even come in for a visit.

Because Ricky falls in love with his guys. Like keeping Cushing/Newton/Bergstrom around. He could cut those guys and add Brown or Hankins and get very close to adding both. Hankins could be had for 5 mil. Brown probably for 3 mil.

Don't get me to try to tell you how Ricky McNair thinks. Apparently he doesn't think like any other GM in the league.
 
Texansphan said:
True, but if they are prepared to fight for Romo, and possibly overspend, it will determine how much they have left to divide among the holes they have left and how much they can spend on each.
Plus they must also pay their rookies they draft.
I don't really care if you disagree - just interested to see what you think is the reason they haven't signed anyone.
(Keep in mind they did try for that OL and got beat out.)
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They didn't try the Remmers didn't even come in for a visit.

Because Ricky falls i
 
steelbtexan said:
They didn't try the Remmers didn't even come in for a visit.

Because Ricky falls in love with his guys. Like keeping Cushing/Newton/Bergstrom around. He could cut those guys and add Brown or Hankins and get very close to adding both. Hankins could be had for 5 mil. Brown probably for 3 mil.

Don't get me to try to tell you how Ricky McNair thinks. Apparently he doesn't think like any other GM in the league.
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Hankins has not been signed because he is asking for 10 M/yr. 5M offer wont even get a visit.
 
Rumor last week was Hankins wants 5 yr/45M. No thanks.

Remmers is a backup level player that got signed for 5 yr/30M. No thanks.

Brown is a solid player but he's been on a few visits and apparently has priced himself too high. He's probably looking for Hightower money. After he left his visit with the Raiders he tweeted, "Out of here. Moneybags yo." Could mean nothing. Could mean he's looking to get paid.

Then again, my philosophy has always been to build through the draft and use FA only to plug gaps with cheap, short term contracts.
 
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Hankins has not been signed because he is asking for 10 M/yr. 5M offer wont even get a visit.
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The Giants are offering him 4 mil.

Poe only got 8 mil 1 yr.

5 - 6 for Hankins will get you a deal.

You can probably get Brown/Hankins for close to 10 mil total, with incentives.
 
steelbtexan said:
The Giants are offering him 4 mil.

Poe only got 8 mil 1 yr.

5 - 6 for Hankins will get you a deal.

You can probably get Brown/Hankins for close to 10 mil total, with incentives.
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Who is your source saying that's all it will cost? All the news is saying otherwise for both Hankins and Brown.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The Texans are still the only team in the NFL to have not signed a free agent that was with another team at the end of last season.
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So what?
steelbtexan said:
They didn't try the Remmers didn't even come in for a visit.

Because Ricky falls i
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You're whining because we didn't sign this bozo?
Remmers is a right tackle only, but that’s fine for Houston with Duane Brown entrenched on the left side. He did not grade out well in 2016 with Pro Football Focus, ranking No. 62 in pass protection among all tackles. Texans fans might rememeber him being on the wrong end of a couple of Von Miller sacks back in Super Bowl L.
The Oregon State product turns 28 in April and has started every game the last two seasons. He was originally an undrafted free agent with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers back in 2012 and also had a cup of coffee with the Chargers the following year.
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Remmers is decent in the run game but his slow feet in pass protection don’t seem much of an upgrade over Chris Clark at right tackle.​
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Seriously?
 
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ObsiWan said:
So what?

You're whining because we didn't sign this bozo?


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Heck yeah seriously - you have any idea how much righteous rage we could unleash at Rick Smith if he signs a guy for a bunch of money that eventually plays worse than our everyone agrees scrub of a RT from last year? It is a Texan Talk poster wet dream!

As a recent example - see the OS signing last year, very few people were outright against the trade. At the time it was "they finally made a move, even if its wrong, they did something". Fast forward to this off-season - what a bunch of morons, can't believe they gave that guy money, Rick forced him on O'Brien yada yada yada...

Its the easiest thing in the world to be right - if you ignore any facts that disagree with you.
 
FuzzyLogic said:
Heck yeah seriously - you have any idea how much righteous rage we could unleash at Rick Smith if he signs a guy for a bunch of money that eventually plays worse than our everyone agrees scrub of a RT from last year? It is a Texan Talk poster wet dream!

As a recent example - see the OS signing last year, very few people were outright against the trade. At the time it was "they finally made a move, even if its wrong, they did something". Fast forward to this off-season - what a bunch of morons, can't believe they gave that guy money, Rick forced him on O'Brien yada yada yada...

Its the easiest thing in the world to be right - if you ignore any facts that disagree with you.
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Hindsight is always 20/20.
 
FuzzyLogic said:
Heck yeah seriously - you have any idea how much righteous rage we could unleash at Rick Smith if he signs a guy for a bunch of money that eventually plays worse than our everyone agrees scrub of a RT from last year? It is a Texan Talk poster wet dream!

As a recent example - see the OS signing last year, very few people were outright against the trade. At the time it was "they finally made a move, even if its wrong, they did something". Fast forward to this off-season - what a bunch of morons, can't believe they gave that guy money, Rick forced him on O'Brien yada yada yada...

Its the easiest thing in the world to be right - if you ignore any facts that disagree with you.
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The fact that, for the 2nd time in franchise history, they finally addressed the QB position, that I was down with. Unfortunately, they have a big problem evaluating talent.

I don't give 2 shits about all the behind-the-scenes, who wanted him, who forced who, blah, blah, blah. I care about good evaluating, building a contending football team, and not passing on QBs in the draft for the last 5 years when you've been desperate for QBs the last 5 years.
 
Hey guys random thought, but who do you think we will get rid of the WRs we got??

I ask this because we are looking for a WR in the draft, so far we had a private workout with Nebraska's Brandon Reilly and San Jose State Tim Crawley
 
JR Texan said:
Hey guys random thought, but who do you think we will get rid of the WRs we got??

I ask this because we are looking for a WR in the draft, so far we had a private workout with Nebraska's Brandon Reilly and San Jose State Tim Crawley
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Clarify why you think Texans want a WR?

Edit: teams have looked at position players and then not drafted position.
 
badboy said:
Clarify why you think Texans want a WR?

Edit: teams have looked at position players and then not drafted position.
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Well that's just my thought since every team only gets 30 private workouts and we already used 2 on WRs, I do see what your trying to say though, it doesn't mean we will get them.
 
FuzzyLogic said:
Heck yeah seriously - you have any idea how much righteous rage we could unleash at Rick Smith if he signs a guy for a bunch of money that eventually plays worse than our everyone agrees scrub of a RT from last year? It is a Texan Talk poster wet dream!

As a recent example - see the OS signing last year, very few people were outright against the trade. At the time it was "they finally made a move, even if its wrong, they did something". Fast forward to this off-season - what a bunch of morons, can't believe they gave that guy money, Rick forced him on O'Brien yada yada yada...

Its the easiest thing in the world to be right - if you ignore any facts that disagree with you.
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Fans can be wrong and there are no consequences.........the GM doesn't have that luxury.
 
FuzzyLogic said:
As a recent example - see the OS signing last year, very few people were outright against the trade. At the time it was "they finally made a move, even if its wrong, they did something".
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at the time I thought hiring "Os was a good move, even if wrong, at least they addressed the QB needs"

the problem here is not that it went wrong, the problem is that it went so wrong that we had the worst starting QB of the whole NFL, probably worse than a decent number of backups

if Os was just "meh" he would be still the starter and we would be hoping he might be able to turn it around next year, so maybe it was a good thing that he sucked so much.
 
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