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This might surprise some as to how poorly the OL especially really played last Sunday..........and where the Blame falls. Except for Mercilus, the D played something less than inspired.

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Key Notes:

Run Stuffs are runs that are less than 2 yards. Goal line short yardage plays are committed from this total.


The offensive tackles Duane Brown and Chris Clark turned in their worst performance as a duo on the season. 13.5 quarterback pressures combined. The .5 came on a sack Clark split with Greg Mancz early in the game.


Pressure points to note for the offense. The Texans had 44.4% of their runs go for 2 yards or less and Brock Osweiler was under pressure on 64.9% of his drop backs. That pressure on drop backs rivals the pass protection against the Minnesota Vikings earlier in the season.


Whitney Mercilus had the top game for the defense totaling 4 quarterback pressures and 3.5 run stuffs. He shared one of those stuffs with Andre Hal. Mercilus also drew a holding call setting the edge.

A.J. Bouye was targeted 10 times on Sunday and had three penalties in the process. NFL teams continue to test Bouye week in and week out and it is clear they are not letting up

It was a tale of two halves for Bouye:

1st half: 6 of 7 | 52 yards | TD | two of the completions were tackles on 3rd down to force Charger punts | had interception nullified due to a holding call on a receiver

2nd half: 1 of 3 | 5 yards | pass deflection
 
The QB

Why do we need an inconsistent QB that also takes away cap space for improvement in other areas?

This is where we're at.

In years past I truly believed we were a QB away from breaking free of the monotony of mediocrity. & yeah, earlier in the year we won because our RB made plays, our ST made plays, our defense made plays.

& yes, our QB made plays.

The way we played last couple of games would have been hard for Derrick Carr to win (as a Texan) or Dak Prescott. I know full well they wouldn't have carried Wentz to a win.

Again, I'm not defending Brock, I'm not supporting Brock. Just accepting reality. O'b is sticking with Brock. We can't let fullbacks run away from our entire defense for a 70+ yard touchdown. Has any other fullback scored on a 70 yard play against any other team this year? How about last year?

Watch other QBs how often are they throwing to receivers blanketed in coverage? I feel like it's every now & then. Brock, who suxs, is doing it nearly every throw. (Of course he's thrown a few in the dirt when he's had wide open receivers)
 
Texans have an all-time winning record against only 7 franchises. Only 5 if you don't count Cleveland and Jacksonville as true NFL franchises.

The others? Detroit,TB, Miami, Oakland and Chicago
 
This is where we're at.

In years past I truly believed we were a QB away from breaking free of the monotony of mediocrity. & yeah, earlier in the year we won because our RB made plays, our ST made plays, our defense made plays.

& yes, our QB made plays.

The way we played last couple of games would have been hard for Derrick Carr to win (as a Texan) or Dak Prescott. I know full well they wouldn't have carried Wentz to a win.

Again, I'm not defending Brock, I'm not supporting Brock. Just accepting reality. O'b is sticking with Brock. We can't let fullbacks run away from our entire defense for a 70+ yard touchdown. Has any other fullback scored on a 70 yard play against any other team this year? How about last year?

Watch other QBs how often are they throwing to receivers blanketed in coverage? I feel like it's every now & then. Brock, who suxs, is doing it nearly every throw. (Of course he's thrown a few in the dirt when he's had wide open receivers)

You are just way under valuing the effect Brock's poor play has. If he's just a halfway decent QB, if he could make a back shoulder throw, give Nuk half a chance on even just an up for grabs play, which he can't even do, the Texans are running away with this division, even with the OL deficiencies, drops, defensive lapses and whatever else.

I get not laying ALL the blame on Brock, but man, his play puts this team in an uphill battle every single freaking game they play. And I don't buy for a second that Dak or Carr or Wentz or whoever, couldn't make a difference that THE WORST QB IN FOOTBALL is not. Just not buying that take.
 
You are just way under valuing the effect Brock's poor play has. If he's just a halfway decent QB, if he could make a back shoulder throw, give Nuk half a chance on even just an up for grabs play, which he can't even do, the Texans are running away with this division, even with the OL deficiencies, drops, defensive lapses and whatever else.

I get not laying ALL the blame on Brock, but man, his play puts this team in an uphill battle every single freaking game they play. And I don't buy for a second that Dak or Carr or Wentz or whoever, couldn't make a difference that THE WORST QB IN FOOTBALL is not. Just not buying that take.
Have to agree.
If you have a good qb, he tends to instill confidence in not only the offense, but the defense as well. You only have to look at Cowboys D - they previously had not been good, but now that they are dominating on O, their D is suddenly very solid.
Another aspect to consider is that if you have a struggling qb, any opponent you play is just not scared of you - they will believe they have a real chance against you and that is truly half the battle - believing in yourself.
 
I want to like Brock. I want him to be the guy for us. However, he's just not accurate and I'm not sure if that can be fixed. He also seems a bit slow to recognize what's happening on D. I'm not sure if more time in the system can fix that or not.

I can't even decide if BOB is a good coach or not because I believe we are so limited by the QB play. BOs completion percentage on routes over 15 yds is sub 30%. How do you defend us? Put 8 in the box, crowd the area 15 yds from the LOS and dare BO to go deep. That makes it harder to run, forces accurate throws in the 1-15yd area, and that isn't BOs strong suit. So, does our offense suck because of the system or are we limited by the QB?

I will say this, given that he'll more than likely be our QB next year we have got to upgrade the OL. Clark is horrible and I'm not to fired up on Allen. We have got to upgrade the RT spot.

Another random thought, move McKinney to SOLB, release Cush, and add 2 ILBs that can cover. I think McKinney could be a beast rushing the QB and we have got to find away to cover RBs and TEs.
 
Texans' Benardrick McKinney makes his mark this season
By Aaron Wilson

November 29, 2016

Texans linebacker Benardrick McKinney wraps up the Raiders' Latavius Murray for one of his 101 tackles this season.
Ricocheting off a block Sunday afternoon, imposing Texans inside linebacker Benardrick McKinney used his superior strength and quickness to roam free on a blitz.

McKinney immediately pounced on San Diego Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers for his fourth sack of the season, marking the only time the Texans' defense was able to sack the veteran passer during a 21-13 loss at NRG Stadium.

Although it happened during a losing cause, it was yet another display of McKinney's growth and emergence as an all-around linebacker during his second NFL season.


McKinney is tied for sixth in the NFL with 101 tackles. He's the only player in the league who has reached the century mark for tackles this season and also has recorded four sacks, also making him just the third player in franchise history to achieve that milestone.



'I know what I can do'


How McKinney, who was drafted in the second round last year out of Mississippi State, has upgraded his skills as a run-stopper and pass rusher hasn't come as a surprise considering his athleticism and instincts. At 6-5, 255 pounds, McKinney is one of the biggest, fastest and hardest-hitting inside linebackers in the game and has proven to be a difficult blocking assignment.

"Not really, I know what I can do," McKinney said when asked if he's surprised by his rapid development. "I know I can be better. There's a lot of things I can correct on the field. Just taking the coaching, watching film, flying around and playing with energy. That's my style of play, playing with energy, and it's helped me out a lot."

With another five games remaining in the regular season, McKinney already has seven tackles for losses, eight quarterback hits and a forced fumble.

McKinney had 12 tackles against the Chargers and two quarterback hits.

"He's had a heck of a year," Texans coach Bill O'Brien said. "He had a great game, had multiple tackles, had a sack. Does a lot for us; he's had a really, really good year for us."

The Texans utilized McKinney in a versatile role. That included having him assume some of injured outside linebacker John Simon's responsibilities in pass coverage and as a pass rusher.

"Well, he's an excellent player," O'Brien said. "I mean, he's very instinctive. He understands the defense. We line him up in different spots. He played a lot of what John Simon's role would've been in the game. He just does a lot for us."

McKinney got off to a fast start with 69 tackles through the first seven weeks of the season. That marked the most at that stage of the regular season in franchise history.


Good student


Learning from former New England Patriots All-Pro linebacker and Texans linebackers coach Mike Vrabel, McKinney has proven to be an apt pupil. He's absorbed a lot of knowledge from the retired NFL standout.

"We have a great defensive line that does an unbelievable job keeping the offensive line off the linebackers," McKinney said. Vrabel does a great job putting the linebackers in great spots to make plays. I'm just taking the coaching and doing my job."

McKinney is still working on his pass-coverage skills and has struggled at times to contain smaller, elusive backs out of the backfield. He allowed a touchdown pass against the Oakland Raiders in single coverage.

One area where McKinney has continued to improve is in his anticipation of offenses' intentions, diagnosing plays better through his film study with Vrabel.

"Really just watching film, understanding the play, understanding the formation, watching film with Vrabel and the linebackers," McKinney said. "Just kind of knowing what's going to happen before it happens, just knowing the formations.

"We watch film a lot. (Vrabel) gives us a lot of keys, a lot of formation indicators. Just understanding what back is in the game. Just looking back at film and reacting to the play as fast as possible."
 
We can't let fullbacks run away from our entire defense for a 70+ yard touchdown. Has any other fullback scored on a 70 yard play against any other team this year? How about last year?


When did this happen?
 
Uncovered wheel route against the Raiders.

Ok, I found the video and watched. Wasn't really a wheel route which would have put the coverage on the LB, he just ran down the seam and both safeties missed him
 
B-Mack has been a beast this year. No doubt he is the man at ILB now.
And this is only his second year - he could be an all-pro by this time next year.
He helps take a lot of pressure off Cushing which could extend his career if they want to keep him.
 
And this is only his second year - he could be an all-pro by this time next year.
He helps take a lot of pressure off Cushing which could extend his career if they want to keep him.
Cushing looks more like an immobile scare crow planted in the middle of the field. Big Mac isn't going to change that. If we keep Cushing next year, it will extend his pocketbook, not any semblance of a productive career.
 
Cushing looks more like an immobile scare crow planted in the middle of the field. Big Mac isn't going to change that. If we keep Cushing next year, it will extend his pocketbook, not any semblance of a productive career.

Cushing's time as a Texan is pretty much done; short of a huge salary cut.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/brian-cushing-5685/

$4,200,000 in dead money if cut Post June 1, $9,547,500 Salary

*Edit*
Other Texans potentially on the cutting block this upcoming offseason:

JJo - Zero Dead Money, $7M Salary
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/johnathan-joseph-1357/

Derek Newton - $2,250,000 dead money, $5.5M salary
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/derek-newton-7935/

Vince - UFA, made $5.5M this year
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/vince-wilfork-4601/

I'd also cut Jeff Allen because he's terrible but I could see him hanging on another year.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/jeff-allen-9854/
 
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Came across this today, take it with a grain of salt:

Simon Clancy‏@SiClancy
The Dolphins are one of six teams showing the most interest in Brad Kaaya, along with Arizona, Chicago, the Saints, Houston & San Diego.

http://caneswatch.blog.palmbeachpos...y-checking-on-miami-hurricanes-qb-brad-kaaya/
NFL scouts have a job to do, though, and they continue to check up on Brad Kaaya.

Arizona, Chicago, New Orleans, Houston, San Diego and Miami are the teams that visit UM’s training facility and games more than others, and ask the most about Kaaya, a UM source told The Post.

...

Other than Kaaya, scouts are most interested in three UM seniors: right guard Danny Isidora (the team’s most consistent offensive lineman), standout cornerback Corn Elder (emerged as a versatile playmaker, can play all five spots in the defensive backfield and is a proven special teams weapon), and wide receiver Stacy Coley (if not for injuries/durability questions, scouts believe he would he a top-3 wideout in his class).

UM believes those players could be early-round draft picks. Scouts have also asked about senior safety Rayshawn Jenkins (nine career interceptions), draft-eligible redshirt sophomore tight end David Njoku (has first-round size and ability, but concerns about his concentration and effort) and senior punter Justin Vogel (one of the nation’s best).

Others on NFL scouts’ radar: junior defensive end Chad Thomas, senior safety Jamal Carter, junior tight end Chris Herndon, senior cornerback Adrian Colbert (who, like Carter, will likely need to play well in a senior showcase game to improve his stock). Scouts are wondering, according to a source, how much more junior center Nick Linder (sidelined for the rest of the year after shoulder surgery) and junior running back Joe Yearby have more to show, or whether they have reached their potential.
 
Kareem Jackson plans to appeal fine for unnecessary roughness
December 2, 2016, 8:56 AM EST

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The Chargers put last Sunday’s game against the Texans away in the fourth quarter when quarterback Philip Rivers hit tight end Hunter Henry with a 12-yard touchdown pass that made the score 21-10 in a game the Chargers would ultimately win 21-13.

That touchdown was set up on the previous play when 15 yards were tacked on to a 25-yard gain by wide receiver Dontrelle Inman after officials called Texans cornerback Kareem Jackson for unnecessary roughness. Jackson came up to hit a stumbling Inman and their interaction ended with Inman’s helmet off.

Jackson said on Thursday that he’s been fined $24,309 for the infraction and that he plans to appeal the penalty.

“No, they didn’t explain it,” Jackson said, via the Houston Chronicle. “Didn’t say launching or anything.”

Jackson has been limited in practice by a hamstring injury both days this week, but appears on track to play against the Packers as the Texans try to remain on top in the AFC South.
 
This is where we're at.

In years past I truly believed we were a QB away from breaking free of the monotony of mediocrity. & yeah, earlier in the year we won because our RB made plays, our ST made plays, our defense made plays.

& yes, our QB made plays.

The way we played last couple of games would have been hard for Derrick Carr to win (as a Texan) or Dak Prescott. I know full well they wouldn't have carried Wentz to a win.

Again, I'm not defending Brock, I'm not supporting Brock. Just accepting reality. O'b is sticking with Brock. We can't let fullbacks run away from our entire defense for a 70+ yard touchdown. Has any other fullback scored on a 70 yard play against any other team this year? How about last year?

Watch other QBs how often are they throwing to receivers blanketed in coverage? I feel like it's every now & then. Brock, who suxs, is doing it nearly every throw. (Of course he's thrown a few in the dirt when he's had wide open receivers)
You are defending him.

First by saying that it feels like he's been throwing to a blanketed receicer more than an average QB in the NFL does.

Secondly by implying that the D is not doing a good enough job.

Neither was true overall.

Osweiler still has a lot of warts.
He had improved some from the college days such that now I can consider him as a journeyman QB instead of a straight NO.

One thing everybody knows is that he needs to have a more compact release to "see" fewer tight windows to throw in.
Even 1/10th of a second can be an eternity in the NFL.
His own length is an advantage sometimes, but a drawback at other times.

His presnap-reads are still less than desirable. He can't see the automatic open receivers or likely to be open receivers often enough.

Coupled that with his tendency to stay with the primary read is a recipe for possible disaster.

All the little things he can't do add up to give the defense an advantge... and his own guys a disadvantage .

This is why I've been saying that Osweiler would have been better of staying with the Broncos

The way Kubiak runs his WCO, he can lessen Osweiler's shortcomings, and enhance the things he can do best.

He can just take his time to work on his delivery to become a better QB.

But he took the money.
If I was his agent, I would have advised him to stay.
The Broncos offered him plenty enough.

Both Rick Smith and O'Brien need to go.
 
You are defending him.

First by saying that it feels like he's been throwing to a blanketed receicer more than an average QB in the NFL does.

Secondly by implying that the D is not doing a good enough job.

Neither was true overall.

Osweiler still has a lot of warts.
He had improved some from the college days such that now I can consider him as a journeyman QB instead of a straight NO.

One thing everybody knows is that he needs to have a more compact release to "see" fewer tight windows to throw in.
Even 1/10th of a second can be an eternity in the NFL.
His own length is an advantage sometimes, but a drawback at other times.

His presnap-reads are still less than desirable. He can't see the automatic open receivers or likely to be open receivers often enough.

Coupled that with his tendency to stay with the primary read is a recipe for possible disaster.

All the little things he can't do add up to give the defense an advantge... and his own guys a disadvantage .

This is why I've been saying that Osweiler would have been better of staying with the Broncos

The way Kubiak runs his WCO, he can lessen Osweiler's shortcomings, and enhance the things he can do best.

He can just take his time to work on his delivery to become a better QB.

But he took the money.
If I was his agent, I would have advised him to stay.
The Broncos offered him plenty enough.

Both Rick Smith and O'Brien need to go.
Disagree with your last sentence.
Texans took a swing at least - one which still has a chance to work out. Remote maybe, but still too soon to make a definitive decision.
 
Aaron Wilson reports that Detroit Lions safety Tavon Wilson was fined $24,309 by the NFL for a hit on Texans tight end C.J. Fiedorowicz as a defenseless receiver.

Where does the NFL come up with these numbers? Why not $24,000. Is it a percentage of Salary? Does anyone know?
 
Let me throw this out there, see what y'all think...

Any chance Nuk is dogging it out there? Thinking back to contract situation, the hold out, and how he wanted more money now - any chance he said F it, I'll show you what I'm worth and is just half assing it out there? He's getting paid $2.2M this year and almost $8M next year. Any chance next year he's suddenly getting open and not dropping catches we're use to seeing him catch?

Any chance he's hurt?

I'm trying to rationalize why he's had such a crap year. 58 catches 668 yards 4 TDs. TDs he would get that in a few weeks. Catches and yards is like half a regular season for him. He's use to playing with questionable/borderline QBs.

Is Brock THAT bad?
 
Let me throw this out there, see what y'all think...

Any chance Nuk is dogging it out there? Thinking back to contract situation, the hold out, and how he wanted more money now - any chance he said F it, I'll show you what I'm worth and is just half assing it out there? He's getting paid $2.2M this year and almost $8M next year. Any chance next year he's suddenly getting open and not dropping catches we're use to seeing him catch?

Any chance he's hurt?

I'm trying to rationalize why he's had such a crap year. 58 catches 668 yards 4 TDs. TDs he would get that in a few weeks. Catches and yards is like half a regular season for him. He's use to playing with questionable/borderline QBs.

Is Brock THAT bad?

I think Brock might not be THAT bad but they might not have any chemistry or timing at all and if they don't have it by now they probably never will. That's my fear. Of course Brock hasn't really shown any kind of connection with anyone who catches the ball yet so maybe we get lucky and he comes back next year and starts clicking.

But I just have a hard time seeing that happening.
 
I think Brock might not be THAT bad but they might not have any chemistry or timing at all and if they don't have it by now they probably never will. That's my fear. Of course Brock hasn't really shown any kind of connection with anyone who catches the ball yet so maybe we get lucky and he comes back next year and starts clicking.

But I just have a hard time seeing that happening.

Brock and CJ seem to have developed a bromance on the field. Surround him with high speed weapons and he bonds with the blocking TE hahaha.
 
Texans facebook page cracks me up...they posted 42 minutes ago...fanduel pic with brock stats.. and justified it with 18.2 fanduel points...

Geezus the marketing company protects their football division ...at least they are earning their money..

Almost sad that the Texans have resorted to fanduel points to see positive ****...
Oh the joys of the sunshine club
 
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Yeah, Brock is that bad. Fitzpatrick, Hoyer, Mallett, Keenum, Yates, Weeden didn't have a problem getting the ball to Nuk. Os hasn't been able to all season. That just doesn't make sense. And when he does, the ball is rarely put in a good spot, i.e. thrown behind him, low, or where the defender can easily contest it.

I seriously doubt Nuk is "dogging" it, but I wouldn't look for him to remain a Texan for too much longer.
 
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Yeah, Brock is that bad. Fitzpatrick, Hoyer, Mallett, Keenum, Yates, Weeden didn't have a problem getting the ball to Nuk. Os hasn't been able to all season. That just doesn't make sense. And when he does, the ball is rarely put in a good spot, i.e. thrown behind him, low, or where the defender can easily contest it.

I seriously doubt Nuk is "dogging" it, but I wouldn't look for him to remain a Texan for too much longer.
Osweiler hit him in the numbers Sunday and he put it down. Probably hasn't had much practise catching them there.
I think Nuk is not focused or confident like last season.
He needs to show professionalism if he wants a max contract.
 
Osweiler hit him in the numbers Sunday and he put it down. Probably hasn't had much practise catching them there.
I think Nuk is not focused or confident like last season.
He needs to show professionalism if he wants a max contract.
Again, one instance where the throw was good versus a whole season of it not. Yeah, Nuk needs to make the catch, no excuses there, but I'm not going to jump on a guy and say he's not focused, who has at least proven himself in this league, and give the guy who hasn't proven jack a pass.
 
True
Again, one instance where the throw was good versus a whole season of it not. Yeah, Nuk needs to make the catch, no excuses there, but I'm not going to jump on a guy and say he's not focused, who has at least proven himself in this league, and give the guy who hasn't proven jack a pass.
True, but that is not the only catchable pass he has put down this year either. Nuk is definitely not in the same ballpark as he was last year and neither will I blame Osweiler for those drops.
There has been several contested balls where the defender disappointingly won the battle.
 
Yeah, Brock is that bad. Fitzpatrick, Hoyer, Mallett, Keenum, Yates, Weeden didn't have a problem getting the ball to Nuk. Os hasn't been able to all season. That just doesn't make sense.

Those guys couldn't get the ball to the TEs. Six in one hand...
 
Texans facebook page cracks me up...they posted 42 minutes ago...fanduel pic with brock stats.. and justified it with 18.2 fanduel points...

Geezus the marketing company protects their football division ...at least they are earning their money..

Almost sad that the Texans have resorted to fanduel points to see positive ****...
Oh the joys of the sunshine club
next they'll show tout his rushing yards as one of the greatest feats in Texans QB history.
 
No "Game 13... Break them horsies... Indianapolis Colts!" thread?

Are you telling me that the Texans offense is so bad it has broken even JamTex's spirit?

Well, I guess a person can drink only so much battleRed koolAid before he starts vomiting.
 
Jackson's absence will be felt.......he has been a huge problem for the Texans in the past.
Agree doc and should impact other teams facing them. His absence doesn't indicate a win but does change odds for me a bit. I am worried about Joseph, Clowney and Simon being out. Cushing has not looked as good as 2015, injuries you think or just winding down?
 
Agree doc and should impact other teams facing them. His absence doesn't indicate a win but does change odds for me a bit. I am worried about Joseph, Clowney and Simon being out. Cushing has not looked as good as 2015, injuries you think or just winding down?
He didn't look very good to me last year despite many denying it and trying to giving him the Emperor's Clothes props.........just the system funneled tackles inside to him. He has lost his lateral mobility for several years. Injuries have done a number on him for quite a while.
 
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