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Buckeye Homer said:
I have a question for management. Have all of the changes with the Texans this year resulted in more people coming here to click, read, and post?
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Other than you not really, but that's not a knock. You have to understand, the last two off seasons were way more drama filled and interesting than anything that actually transpired in season out on the field..That happens when you have/had a star perv QB who had like 26 sexual assault allegations, (don't hold me to that..it became hard to keep up with).

Traffic wise, this is a slow offseason compared to that circus (everyone rubbernecks a disaster).. However this is my most anticipated season in a LONG while. Finally feel like the clown show has ended.
 
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Buckeye Homer said:
I have a question for management. Have all of the changes with the Texans this year resulted in more people coming here to click, read, and post?
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I haven't noticed any substantial increase in traffic .... a couple new faces following specific players to their new teams, outside of that - the same people who have been posting here for years.

To see any real change in traffic here, this franchise has to win at a much higher rate.
 
Corrosion said:
I haven't noticed any substantial increase in traffic .... a couple new faces following specific players to their new teams, outside of that - the same people who have been posting here for years.

To see any real change in traffic here, this franchise has to win at a much higher rate.
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Fair to say….with Caserio and Ryans firmly at the helm plus Stroud and Anderson leading their respective sides of the ball, let the winning begin.

Oh, Hannah this is your que…..on with the marketing. Get it right b/c Janice and Cal are counting on you.
 
Corrosion said:
I haven't noticed any substantial increase in traffic .... a couple new faces following specific players to their new teams, outside of that - the same people who have been posting here for years.

To see any real change in traffic here, this franchise has to win at a much higher rate.
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You mean out of all of Buckeye Nation I'm the only dimwit that came here to follow the Texans?
 
Carr Bombed said:
Other than you not really,
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As I mentioned when I first arrived here, growing up in Columbus, I just never grew attached to any NFL team. Most Buckeye fans also are fans of Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Dallas, etc. They already have a team. For whatever reason, with CJ going to Houston, I've become a fan. I'm PUMPED to get the season started!
 
Buckeye Homer said:
As I mentioned when I first arrived here, growing up in Columbus, I just never grew attached to any NFL team. Most Buckeye fans also are fans of Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Dallas, etc. They already have a team. For whatever reason, with CJ going to Houston, I've become a fan. I'm PUMPED to get the season started!
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Happens all the times. When we drafted Watson we had a Clemson fan join. I think we even had a Mills fan who joined.
 
Corrosion said:
I haven't noticed any substantial increase in traffic .... a couple new faces following specific players to their new teams, outside of that - the same people who have been posting here for years.

To see any real change in traffic here, this franchise has to win at a much higher rate.
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A screen shot taken this morning:

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230 guests! WOW!! Impressive!..............until you realize that most all of the 230 "guests" are robots! It used to be that true guests and robots were listed as separate categories, BUT..........

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Cardinals are betting favorites to have the NFL’s worst record

The Cardinals are the clear favorites to have the worst record in the NFL in 2023.

Arizona is a +225 favorite to finish the regular season with the fewest wins, via BetMGM. Tampa Bay is next at +850, followed by Houston at +900.

Bettors are overwhelmingly betting on the Cardinals to finish with the fewest wins in the league: More than half of all the money bet this offseason on the team with the fewest wins has been bet on the Cardinals.
With Arizona coming off a 4-13 record and Kyler Murray’s status uncertain following last season’s knee injury, it’s no surprise that not many people are expecting much of the Cardinals. The silver lining for an ugly year may be the first overall pick in the 2024 NFL draft.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
A screen shot taken this morning:

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5 members
230 guests

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230 guests! WOW!! Impressive!..............until you realize that most all of the 230 "guests" are robots! It used to be that true guests and robots were listed as separate categories, BUT..........

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OK, enlightened me. What are "robots" and what are their purpose?
 
I came here as a Bengals fan that started following the Texans more due to my son putting all faith in the Texans when he was like 5 years old, but I'm a huge Buckeyes fan as well. As a Buckeyes fan, I am a Stroud fan, but I think he has some concerns that I have already expressed here.

That aside, I think there are a couple different discussions taking place as if they are one in the same regarding QB's.
I have seen people making the comment about not taking this or that QB in the first round due to other better players on the board and not just taking a QB to take a QB. I agree with that concept, but only with the caveat being "where" in the first round? For example, if I'm picking at say #23, I would probably take the best player available as opposed to being locked into QB at that point. Why? Because all of the "perceived" top QB's will all have been taken. At least by current philosophy and draft history.

However, if the team has a top 3-5 pick and you don't have a franchise QB, I believe you take a QB if you truly believe he's capable of becoming a franchise QB. He may not do that, but I think you still pull the trigger. I think I may have said this previously, but the rookie wage scale makes it easier for teams to pull the trigger and risk getting it wrong. The team is no longer hamstrung in having to hand out a 60 million dollar guaranteed deal before the guy steps on the field.

So the Texans are picking number 2, have a definite need at QB (please don't argue that point) and take either Young or Stroud. You can certainly argue which QB is better and I wouldn't lose a second of sleep, but you should take one or the other. If they happen to fail epically and you are sitting atop the draft pecking order again, the team can certainly pull the trigger on another QB. While I won't admit that would be something I want to see happen for my team, it's better to cut losses than continue to think the other guy is going to somehow get exponentially better.
 
ArmyBengal said:
I came here as a Bengals fan that started following the Texans more due to my son putting all faith in the Texans when he was like 5 years old, but I'm a huge Buckeyes fan as well. As a Buckeyes fan, I am a Stroud fan, but I think he has some concerns that I have already expressed here.

That aside, I think there are a couple different discussions taking place as if they are one in the same regarding QB's.
I have seen people making the comment about not taking this or that QB in the first round due to other better players on the board and not just taking a QB to take a QB. I agree with that concept, but only with the caveat being "where" in the first round? For example, if I'm picking at say #23, I would probably take the best player available as opposed to being locked into QB at that point. Why? Because all of the "perceived" top QB's will all have been taken. At least by current philosophy and draft history.

However, if the team has a top 3-5 pick and you don't have a franchise QB, I believe you take a QB if you truly believe he's capable of becoming a franchise QB. He may not do that, but I think you still pull the trigger. I think I may have said this previously, but the rookie wage scale makes it easier for teams to pull the trigger and risk getting it wrong. The team is no longer hamstrung in having to hand out a 60 million dollar guaranteed deal before the guy steps on the field.

So the Texans are picking number 2, have a definite need at QB (please don't argue that point) and take either Young or Stroud. You can certainly argue which QB is better and I wouldn't lose a second of sleep, but you should take one or the other. If they happen to fail epically and you are sitting atop the draft pecking order again, the team can certainly pull the trigger on another QB. While I won't admit that would be something I want to see happen for my team, it's better to cut losses than continue to think the other guy is going to somehow get exponentially better.
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I'm a fan of taking BPA and targeting particular players instead of positions. I think this is how NFL GMs make up their draft boards.
I really like the way the Texans executed drafting both Stroud and Anderson. With Stroud's accuracy and arm talent, I think he will be a very good QB in the NFL. The Texans upgraded the OL, so they should be able to keep a relatively clean pocket for him to work in.
Anderson should be a playmaker from the start. IMO, he's the best player in the 2023 draft. On paper, the Texans got 2 of the top 5 players in the draft and arguably 2 of the top 3.
We will start to find out in 12 days.
I haven't been this excited for a season to start in 8 years or so.
 
ArmyBengal said:
I came here as a Bengals fan that started following the Texans more due to my son putting all faith in the Texans when he was like 5 years old, but I'm a huge Buckeyes fan as well. As a Buckeyes fan, I am a Stroud fan, but I think he has some concerns that I have already expressed here.

That aside, I think there are a couple different discussions taking place as if they are one in the same regarding QB's.
I have seen people making the comment about not taking this or that QB in the first round due to other better players on the board and not just taking a QB to take a QB. I agree with that concept, but only with the caveat being "where" in the first round? For example, if I'm picking at say #23, I would probably take the best player available as opposed to being locked into QB at that point. Why? Because all of the "perceived" top QB's will all have been taken. At least by current philosophy and draft history.

However, if the team has a top 3-5 pick and you don't have a franchise QB, I believe you take a QB if you truly believe he's capable of becoming a franchise QB. He may not do that, but I think you still pull the trigger. I think I may have said this previously, but the rookie wage scale makes it easier for teams to pull the trigger and risk getting it wrong. The team is no longer hamstrung in having to hand out a 60 million dollar guaranteed deal before the guy steps on the field.

So the Texans are picking number 2, have a definite need at QB (please don't argue that point) and take either Young or Stroud. You can certainly argue which QB is better and I wouldn't lose a second of sleep, but you should take one or the other. If they happen to fail epically and you are sitting atop the draft pecking order again, the team can certainly pull the trigger on another QB. While I won't admit that would be something I want to see happen for my team, it's better to cut losses than continue to think the other guy is going to somehow get exponentially better.
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Spot on and I agree 1000%
 
DocBar said:
I'm a fan of taking BPA and targeting particular players instead of positions. I think this is how NFL GMs make up their draft boards.
I really like the way the Texans executed drafting both Stroud and Anderson. With Stroud's accuracy and arm talent, I think he will be a very good QB in the NFL. The Texans upgraded the OL, so they should be able to keep a relatively clean pocket for him to work in.
Anderson should be a playmaker from the start. IMO, he's the best player in the 2023 draft. On paper, the Texans got 2 of the top 5 players in the draft and arguably 2 of the top 3.
We will start to find out in 12 days.
I haven't been this excited for a season to start in 8 years or so.
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Another spot on top level comment right here. 1000% in agreement
 
ArmyBengal said:
However, if the team has a top 3-5 pick and you don't have a franchise QB, I believe you take a QB if you truly believe he's capable of becoming a franchise QB.
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Yes, absolutely.
ArmyBengal said:
So the Texans are picking number 2, have a definite need at QB (please don't argue that point) and take either Young or Stroud.
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If you believe either are capable of being a franchise QB, sure. But it's not guaranteed that everyone thinks of these two that way.

It's possible that someone could see either as quickly being thought of like Burrow, Allen, Mahomes, Rodgers...

Then others think they'll soon be compared to Mac Jones, Ryan Tannehill (Titans), Tua Tagovailoa, or Derek Carr.

Still worthy of a 1st round pick just not a top 5 pick, depending on who else is in the draft.

Fortunately (or unfortunately) there weren't many blue chips in the 2023 draft.
 
thunderkyss said:
If you believe either are capable of being a franchise QB, sure. But it's not guaranteed that everyone thinks of these two that way.
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Yes, only if they feel the player is capable of being a franchise QB.
When I talk about "They" however, I'm talking about the front office, coaches, scouts, etc.
If they don't agree about a player, then I am sure there is a process of how they achieve consensus.
I'm not really concerned about the fans. We are wrong more times than not give or take...
 
Buckeye Homer said:
I have a question for management. Have all of the changes with the Texans this year resulted in more people coming here to click, read, and post?
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I approve several new members a week. Maybe they're lurking, or maybe just getting to know the place before posting, or, maybe they see the stupid redundant arguments over and over ad nauseam and lose interest in posting.

Hopefully, actual football being played changes that trend. Right now this place is as bad a an episode of the crappy show my wife and daughter watch, Dance Moms.

thunderkyss said:
It takes a special kind of person to actually come to a message board. Most fans have no idea this place is here, nor are they looking for something like this.
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No, it takes a special kind of person to come to a message board for a consistently crappy team. :crazy:

Folks will be more interested in talking about the Texans when they are actually interesting to talk about. And ultimately that requires consistently winning.
 
ArmyBengal said:
I came here as a Bengals fan that started following the Texans more due to my son putting all faith in the Texans when he was like 5 years old, but I'm a huge Buckeyes fan as well. As a Buckeyes fan, I am a Stroud fan, but I think he has some concerns that I have already expressed here.

That aside, I think there are a couple different discussions taking place as if they are one in the same regarding QB's.
I have seen people making the comment about not taking this or that QB in the first round due to other better players on the board and not just taking a QB to take a QB. I agree with that concept, but only with the caveat being "where" in the first round? For example, if I'm picking at say #23, I would probably take the best player available as opposed to being locked into QB at that point. Why? Because all of the "perceived" top QB's will all have been taken. At least by current philosophy and draft history.

However, if the team has a top 3-5 pick and you don't have a franchise QB, I believe you take a QB if you truly believe he's capable of becoming a franchise QB. He may not do that, but I think you still pull the trigger. I think I may have said this previously, but the rookie wage scale makes it easier for teams to pull the trigger and risk getting it wrong. The team is no longer hamstrung in having to hand out a 60 million dollar guaranteed deal before the guy steps on the field.

So the Texans are picking number 2, have a definite need at QB (please don't argue that point) and take either Young or Stroud. You can certainly argue which QB is better and I wouldn't lose a second of sleep, but you should take one or the other. If they happen to fail epically and you are sitting atop the draft pecking order again, the team can certainly pull the trigger on another QB. While I won't admit that would be something I want to see happen for my team, it's better to cut losses than continue to think the other guy is going to somehow get exponentially better.
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What's the definition of a franchise QB? Mine is a QB's ability to play well enough in the playoffs to win a SB. Example, Dak isn't a franchise QB. IMHO

It would've been better if Hannah had waited anbd traded down for more picks in the better 2024 draft. IMHO They could've built a juggernaught.
 
steelbtexan said:
What's the definition of a franchise QB? Mine is a QB's ability to play well enough in the playoffs to win a SB. Example, Dak isn't a franchise QB. IMHO

It would've been better if Hannah had waited anbd traded down for more picks in the better 2024 draft. IMHO They could've built a juggernaught.
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I don't disagree with either of these opinions.

I also don't fault the Texans for not agreeing with them.
 
steelbtexan said:
What's the definition of a franchise QB? Mine is a QB's ability to play well enough in the playoffs to win a SB. Example, Dak isn't a franchise QB. IMHO

It would've been better if Hannah had waited anbd traded down for more picks in the better 2024 draft. IMHO They could've built a juggernaught.
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The world according to steelb:

Eli Manning? Franchise QB.
Dan Marino? Not a franchise QB.

I see Hannah as a carpe diem kind of gal. Looks like she’s turning the organization towards that kind of thinking. Not worrying about being on the right track. Let’s make our own track.
 
steelbtexan said:
I fault them because the team is going to become a playoff team if Stroud isn't a bust. But not a true contender. As I've said before, if Stroud ever wins a big game that will be a 1st.
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I mean, Mahomes had a losing record as a starter in college and his biggest win was beating a 5-7 Texas team in 2015.

I don't recall you ever making that statement about Mahomes who was your favorite QB in that draft class.
 
steelbtexan said:
What's the definition of a franchise QB? Mine is a QB's ability to play well enough in the playoffs to win a SB. Example, Dak isn't a franchise QB. IMHO

It would've been better if Hannah had waited and traded down for more picks in the better 2024 draft. IMHO They could've built a juggernaught.
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However the team defines franchise QB. My definition is irrelevant.
By your definition Burrow, Allen and Herbert aren't franchise type QB's however. If you are cool with that, then it's whatever to me.
However, no one is trading those QB's for Young or Stroud. Were the Texans screwed before they made the selection?

Additionally, saying the 2024 draft is "better" while those players are still in college might be putting the cart before the horse a bit.
Not really arguing, just saying that it's too hard to say. It's one of the reasons I hate draft grades. There are too many variables.

I like the name Hannah.
 
sandman said:
I mean, Mahomes had a losing record as a starter in college and his biggest win was beating a 5-7 Texas team in 2015.

I don't recall you ever making that statement about Mahomes who was your favorite QB in that draft class.
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Mahomes didn't play with what was probably the most talented team in college football.
 
ArmyBengal said:
However the team defines franchise QB. My definition is irrelevant.
By your definition Burrow, Allen and Herbert aren't franchise type QB's however. If you are cool with that, then it's whatever to me.
However, no one is trading those QB's for Young or Stroud. Were the Texans screwed before they made the selection?

Additionally, saying the 2024 draft is "better" while those players are still in college might be putting the cart before the horse a bit.
Not really arguing, just saying that it's too hard to say. It's one of the reasons I hate draft grades. There are too many variables.

I like the name Hannah.
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This comes down to if you think the 2024 QB class is better than the 2023 QB class. Also I think the 2024 class overall is much better than the 2023 class and the prudent thing to do was add pieces in the 2023 draft and also through trades add as many extra picks in 2024 as possible, including your QB of the future out of that draft.
 
steelbtexan said:
This comes down to if you think the 2024 QB class is better than the 2023 QB class. Also I think the 2024 class overall is much better than the 2023 class and the prudent thing to do was add pieces in the 2023 draft and also through trades add as many extra picks in 2024 as possible, including your QB of the future out of that draft.
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There is a reason you're on a MB and not in a football organization at any level
 
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