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CloakNNNdagger said:
Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli 7h7 hours ago

Doesn't seem O'Brien will rest players against the Jags even if there's nothing at stake. Says there's no substitute for winning. #Texans
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The road ahead of us is tough enough as it is. I don't see how anyone can expect us not to do everything possible to win next week, then ask 46 guys to put it all on the line a week later.

It's not like there's a switch we can turn on & off when ever we feel like it.

You practice the way you play & you play to win the game. There is no other way.

Jj Watt broke his hand in practice.


Think about that.
 
Chiefs, Broncos or Jets? It's a tough call for Texans
By John McClain

December 29, 2015 Updated: December 30, 2015 12:11am
Even if the Texans lose to Jacksonville on Sunday, they are all but guaranteed of winning the AFC South and hosting a playoff game in the wild-card round.

Even if the Texans lose and Indianapolis defeats Tennessee, the Colts' chances of winning the division are so microscopic that it's not too early to look at the three teams that could be coming to NRG Stadium in the first round.

As the last weekend of games approaches, Kansas City, Denver and the New York Jets are still in the picture to come to Houston.

As the fourth-seeded team - the division winner with the worst record - the Texans would host the wild-card team with the best record.

As a fan, would you rather see the Texans play the Chiefs, Broncos or Jets?

Let's start with the Chiefs and a possible rematch of the regular-season opener Kansas City won 27-20 at NRG Stadium.

The Chiefs have a nine-game winning streak going into their last game against Oakland at Arrowhead Stadium. They still have a chance to win the AFC West if they defeat the Raiders and Denver loses at home to San Diego.

When the Chiefs won at NRG Stadium, Alex Smith threw two touchdown passes, and Jamaal Charles ran for another TD to give them a 27-9 halftime lead.

Charles went down for the season in October with a torn ACL, but the Chiefs haven't missed him. Smith has been terrific, and the defense, spearheaded by the pass rush, has been outstanding.

But during that nine-game winning streak, the only teams the Chiefs have defeated that currently have winning records are Pittsburgh and Denver.

The Kubiak angle

If the Chiefs win Sunday and the Broncos slip up against the Chargers, imagine the excitement in Houston with Gary Kubiak coming home for a playoff game. Not to mention defensive coordinator Wade Phillips and other former Texans coaches and players who in their first season have helped the Broncos go 11-4.

Denver has the NFL's best defense. The quarterback could be Brock Osweiler, who pulled out the overtime victory over Cincinnati on Monday night, or a healthy Peyton Manning.

As a fan, do you want a piece of the Broncos?

If not the Chiefs or Broncos, how would you like the Texans to play the Jets again?

On Nov. 22, T.J. Yates threw two touchdown passes to lead the Texans to a 24-17 victory over the Jets at NRG Stadium.

Big year for Fitzpatrick

Quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick, who had the best season of his career with the Texans in 2014 before suffering a broken leg, is having a career year in his first season with the Jets.

Fitzpatrick threw a touchdown pass and ran for another score against the Texans. He has 29 touchdown passes and 12 interceptions this season.

Since they lost to the Texans, the Jets have compiled a five-game winning streak, including Sunday's overtime victory over New England. The Patriots are the only team with a winning record that New York has beaten in that stretch.

The Jets could still miss the playoffs, though. The schedule maker could be charged with cruel and unusual punishment because one team - and one coach - can force the Jets to watch the playoffs on television.

If the Steelers beat the Browns, the Jets have to win in Buffalo against their former coach, the bitter Rex Ryan. They suffered a 22-17 home loss to Ryan in November. To let the Bills sweep them and eliminate them from the playoffs would be almost criminal.

So what do you think? Chiefs, Broncos or Jets?

Reading and listening to experts around the country, it doesn't matter who comes to NRG Stadium, because the Texans are going to be one and done, anyway.

Just like they were done after the Miami game, right?
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I'd like to see the Chiefs come back here and at the same time the Steelers get in and eliminate the Bengals.

Then in week two we go to Denver (unavoidable and probably where we get eliminated) and they go to New England and eliminate the Patriots.

That would put the AFC Championship Game at NRG (if we managed to get past the Broncos) with us hosting Pittsburgh.

That would be a hell of a postseason for this bunch wouldn't it?
 
I don't expect much out of the Texan playoffs other than them actually getting there. For this bunch, that in itself is quite an accomplishment considering the year they've had. And I get a new hat. :)
 
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Thorn said:
I don't expect much out of the Texan playoffs other than them actually getting there. For this bunch, that in itself is quite an accomplishment considering the year they've had. And I get a new hat. :)
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This is about hope and not expectations. But football is a game which often takes unexpected twists and turns. Let's hope for the best.
 
The Chronicle, yesterday, had a short mention about Kendall Lamm, our undrafted, free agent OT signing out of Appalachian State. Quite positive. He's 6'-6" and 305 lbs and has mostly been contributing as a blocking TE. He's started four games and has played in 14. The Chronicle stated that he's displayed strong blocking skills and toughness.

The knock on him going into the draft was that he had "shorter than normal" arm length. I searched and could not find what this actually is. Anybody know?

Has anyone paid any attention to Lamm and can comment on his potential with the Texans.
 
Number19 said:
The Chronicle, yesterday, had a short mention about Kendall Lamm, our undrafted, free agent OT signing out of Appalachian State. Quite positive. He's 6'-6" and 305 lbs and has mostly been contributing as a blocking TE. He's started four games and has played in 14. The Chronicle stated that he's displayed strong blocking skills and toughness.

The knock on him going into the draft was that he had "shorter than normal" arm length. I searched and could not find what this actually is. Anybody know?

Has anyone paid any attention to Lamm and can comment on his potential with the Texans.
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You generally want an offensive tackle to have longer arms so they can keep the DEs and Rush Linebackers at a distance. In general (iirc), you want a tackle to have arms that are over 34" long and if possible, over 35". Especially for an LT.

Someone like an Oday Aboushi ends up playing guard because he's got arms that are <34", even though he's a bit tall to be a guard and even though his arm length is only an 1/8th of an inch short. I'm not sure what Lamm's arm measurements were, but the odds were that they were <34", possibly even <33.5".

I hope that answers your question.
 
I've always been a firm believer that anyone drafted to play OT should have long arms. In fact, I didn't like the Winston pick because he had 33" arm length; but he did turn out to be a pretty good selection because his other qualities were so good.

I'd like to know what Lamm's arm length is and whether he has other strengths which will allow him to be a productive OL'man.

I believe that addressing our OL is a high priority, although I can't point a finger at any specific weakness. On 610, a while back, i heard a comment that although our line wasn't "bad", it just didn't have the strength and power required to be much better in executing OB's offense. In particular, the interior of the line needed beefing up.

Someone on this forum suggested Newton needed to be moved inside and we needed to spend a high draft pick on an OT.

So I was just wondering about Lamm.
 
Bryan Hoyer named starting QB by Obrien for this Sunday.....After 2 concussions in 1 month....5 in 7 yrs...You gotta be kidding.....Hey Hoyer, Obrien won't be around to change your diaper when you have dementia at the age of 50. I'm not sure which one of you is responsible for this decision....probably both of you. But what your saying is that possibly winning a football game is worth the risk of your mental health in the future. Brilliant......My father was a star running back in the early 1950's....that's when the helmets were leather w/no face mask....he broke his nose a dozen times...By the time he was 63 he shuffled when he walked....unable to pick his feet up to walk normally....this was the beginning of a horrible heart breaking decline of a proud strong man. This is what will happen to you Hoyer if you loose the roll of life vs football dice and you Obrien can take 50% of the responsibility for the long term mental health risk your helping your QB take for a f-ing football game. Hoyer, Don't look for law suits or sympathy if you discover as you grow older that you lost the bet of gambling life vs football.
 
PapaL said:
How would you feel if this Texans team won the SB? I'd instantly question everything I know about football.
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I'll feel blessed having watched the best defense of all time peak at the right moment right in our backyard.

I'll definitely buy the T-Shirt.
 
Number19 said:
I've always been a firm believer that anyone drafted to play OT should have long arms. In fact, I didn't like the Winston pick because he had 33" arm length; but he did turn out to be a pretty good selection because his other qualities were so good.

I'd like to know what Lamm's arm length is and whether he has other strengths which will allow him to be a productive OL'man.

I believe that addressing our OL is a high priority, although I can't point a finger at any specific weakness. On 610, a while back, i heard a comment that although our line wasn't "bad", it just didn't have the strength and power required to be much better in executing OB's offense. In particular, the interior of the line needed beefing up.

Someone on this forum suggested Newton needed to be moved inside and we needed to spend a high draft pick on an OT.

So I was just wondering about Lamm.
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I looked around a little bit but I didn't get any specifics on Lamm's arm length.

But I believe Winston's short arms were why he was an RT instead of an LT and why he was a liability in pass pro.
 
We're fans. Is there some REASON we are supposed to be knowledgeable about football? Do Star Wars fans have to know anything about physics? Do Law & Order fans have to know anything about law? I know a football is sort of round and pointy at both ends. Is there something I'm missing?
 
The Pencil Neck said:
I looked around a little bit but I didn't get any specifics on Lamm's arm length.

But I believe Winston's short arms were why he was an RT instead of an LT and why he was a liability in pass pro.
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Seemed to me that Winston only had problems with the really fast guys so I thought it was more slow lateral movement than short arms. But i could be wrong.
 
Thorn said:
We're fans. Is there some REASON we are supposed to be knowledgeable about football? Do Star Wars fans have to know anything about physics? Do Law & Order fans have to know anything about law? I know a football is sort of round and pointy at both ends. Is there something I'm missing?
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YES! it must be inflated to at least 12.5 lbs. of pressure!
 
The Pencil Neck said:
You generally want an offensive tackle to have longer arms so they can keep the DEs and Rush Linebackers at a distance. In general (iirc), you want a tackle to have arms that are over 34" long and if possible, over 35". Especially for an LT.

Someone like an Oday Aboushi ends up playing guard because he's got arms that are <34", even though he's a bit tall to be a guard and even though his arm length is only an 1/8th of an inch short. I'm not sure what Lamm's arm measurements were, but the odds were that they were <34", possibly even <33.5".

I hope that answers your question.
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Winston's arm length was 34 inches...........His problem was not arm length. His problem was SLOW FEET! I came across a very interesting set of graphs/stats based on PFF.........and analysis that essentially debunks any real relationship between arm length and success at OT.

Does Arm Length Affect OT Play?
In a guest column Nate Washuta looks at the age-old question of what effect arm length actually has on OT play.

Nate Washuta | 2 years ago
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Every year, draft picks rise and fall because of their physical attributes. College kids show up at the combine or their pro days, strip down to their underwear, and are poked and prodded and critiqued to determine how they measure up to their peers. NFL teams test everything with even a remote connection to football performance. Some of these make logical sense. A wide receiver that’s faster or can jump higher has a competitive advantage over smaller defenders. While the actual validity of things like the 40-yard dash and the vertical leap are widely debated, the one metric that has always perplexed me the most is the arm length of an offensive tackle.

It’s often argued that guys with longer arms are better able to keep defenders at bay and that a player with short arms simply can’t be successful. This is especially confusing when considering that there is no real consensus on what are considered “long” or “short” arms. I quite often see a scouting report where 34” arms are called long, while 33 ¼” arms are considered short by the same scouting service. Look at a ruler and measure out ¾ of an inch. Does it seem logical that such a small distance makes such a big difference in holding off defenders?

With that in mind, I decided to look at PFF data to see how much of a difference arm length truly makes in offensive lineman performance. If the popular narrative is correct, there should be a significant drop-off somewhere between 33 and 34 inches.



In this figure, I’ve included the PFF data of every offensive tackle that played over 25% of his team’s snaps in any season from 2010-2012 whose arm length I could find online. I’ve also plotted the data as PFF grade per 500 snaps so that guys with different amounts of snaps are directly comparable. With a linear fit, we actually see a negative correlation, where guys with longer arms perform worse in general. But as you can see from the R-squared value on the chart (1.00 is perfect, 0 means there is no correlation), the fit is pretty terrible, so there’s essentially no direct correlation between arm length and performance. Another interesting thing that you’ll note is that about half of qualified tackles in the NFL have arms that are 34 inches or shorter. So not only are “short” arms not necessarily a disadvantage, but they’re also not uncommon.

I can also break this down as pass blocking or run blocking. Since they’re fundamentally different techniques, it would stand to reason that arm length might have a different impact on each of them.





These charts are pretty similar to the first one. There’s still a negative correlation in both sets of data and neither correlation is even close to significant.

A good counter argument that you might make is that including right tackles might bias the data. The best offensive tackles are often charged with protecting the “blind side” of the quarterback. This also coincides with the position of the opposing team’s best pass rusher (again, to get at the quarterback’s blind side). If the better offensive tackles are going up against the better pass rushers, then the data sets could potentially be very different. PFF has listed the number of games played at left or right tackle, so I’ve simply sorted them depending on which position each player has played more.





These graphs convey the same information. Still, there’s no correlation between arm length and performance. Another interesting thing that you can see from these charts is the wide variation in arm lengths for right tackles vs left tackles. Looking at the left tackle chart, all but 4 of the qualified players had arms between 33 and 36 inches long. Looking at right tackles, that number jumps to 13, and is apparent on both ends of the spectrum. So not only are the guys with tiny arms stuck on the right side, but so are the “long-limbed athletes”.

Any way I break it down, there doesn’t seem to be any correlation between arm length and performance. Still, I would be remiss if I didn’t admit to the limitations of this analysis. First of all, the sample is limited to players whose arm length was available online. In most cases that means they attended the combine or a pro day at a big school, and most likely biases the sample somewhat against lower draft picks and undrafted free agents. The other consequence of this limitation is that old web pages that list arm length for some of the older draft classes are no longer available online. This excludes some of the oldest qualified players. Also of note is that I used a simple linear regression, without controlling for other variables. This means that other variables (age, height, strength, college conference, etc.) could very well be the most important factors in predicting performance that would account for the large variance seen in all the data. If arm length was a huge factor, it should still show up in this analysis, but a more minor effect might become clouded.
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I've always seen length as far more important for a rusher than a blocker.

A blocker wants to get in on a defender anyway, so the length of his arm doesn't seem like an advantage or disadvantage.

On the other side, a pass rusher wants the blocker off of him, and the longer his arm is the more distance he can create from the blocker on contact.
 
The Texans are the 6th team to have 4 different QBs start and win a game in one season. No one has ever had 5.
 
thunderkyss said:
I'll feel blessed having watched the best defense of all time peak at the right moment right in our backyard.

I'll definitely buy the T-Shirt.
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We do have a really good defense but for the record we're not the best we're ranked #10 out of 32 teams....maybe next yr we can be in top 3....We have to look at Broncos and create depth at each position like they have
 
Phoenix said:
We do have a really good defense but for the record we're not the best we're ranked #10 out of 32 teams....maybe next yr we can be in top 3....We have to look at Broncos and create depth at each position like they have
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He asked how I'd feel if we won the Super Bowl this year. I don't believe that will happen unless our defense plays out of their mind.

Keep up.
 
Phoenix said:
We do have a really good defense but for the record we're not the best we're ranked #10 out of 32 teams....maybe next yr we can be in top 3....We have to look at Broncos and create depth at each position like they have
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Not sure where 10th comes from. We are currently 11th on pts and 3rd on yds. The points obviously being a result of the 2 40+ pt blowouts.
 
Speedy said:
The Texans are the 6th team to have 4 different QBs start and win a game in one season. No one has ever had 5.
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I just thought I'd spell it out:

Week 3 - Tampa Bay
Ryan Mallett 29/38 228 1 1
DeAndre Hopkins 8 101 1 29

Week 6 - Jacksonville Jaguars
Bryan Hoyer 24/36 293 3 0
DeAndre Hopkins 10 148 2 29

Week 8 - Tennessee Titans
Bryan Hoyer 23/35 2 0
DeAndre Hopkins 8 94 1 21

Week 10 - Cincinnati Bengals
Bryan Hoyer 12/22 123 0 1
T. J. Yates 5/11 69 1 0
DeAndre Hopkins 5 57 1 22

Week 11 - New York Jets
T. J. Yates 16/34/229/2/0
Cecil Shorts III 1/1 21 1 0
DeAndre Hopkins 5 118 2 61

Week 12 - New Orleans Saints
Bryan Hoyer 21/27/205/2/1
Ryan Griffin 4 72 1 37

Week 15 - Indianapolis Colts
Brandon Weedon 11/18 105 1 0
T. J. Yates 6/10 68 0 1
DeAndre Hopkins 8 94 0 28

Week 16 - Tennessee Titans
Brandon Weedon 15/24 200 2 0
B. J. Daniels 1/2 7 0 0
DeAndre Hopkins 7 117 1 44
 
thunderkyss said:
He asked how I'd feel if we won the Super Bowl this year. I don't believe that will happen unless our defense plays out of their mind.

Keep up.
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Just stating the facts....your statement was that you feel blessed to have watched "the best defense of all time".....sorry don't take it so personal dude I didn't insult your mamma.... We have the 10th best defense in the league.....it's not my stat....I didn't make it up....it's just a fact....Peace
 
Ravens quarterback Ryan Mallett is coming off a solid game in his first start with the team, and he says he owes his success to having support in Baltimore that he hasn’t always had in the past.

Mallett was effusive in his praise of quarterbacks Matt Schaub and Jimmy Clausen, who went above and beyond in helping him get ready to start after less than two weeks with the team. And Mallett says he hasn’t always had that kind of help from his teammates.

“What Matt and Jimmy did for me meant a lot. I’ve been in quarterback rooms where it’s every man for himself. They didn’t have to be as helpful. You hear things are different in Baltimore, and I was seeing it,” Mallett said.
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Link

I have heard Brady is kind of a dick.
 
Phoenix said:
We do have a really good defense but for the record we're not the best we're ranked #10 out of 32 teams....maybe next yr we can be in top 3....We have to look at Broncos and create depth at each position like they have
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Phoenix said:
Just stating the facts....your statement was that you feel blessed to have watched "the best defense of all time".....sorry don't take it so personal dude I didn't insult your mamma.... We have the 10th best defense in the league.....it's not my stat....I didn't make it up....it's just a fact....Peace
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That's twice you've mentioned that they're 10th. Where is that coming from? I know the bogus NFL ranking of yardage has them 3rd. They're 11th in points allowed. A much truer indication of their overall performance in the formula used in the Aikman Efficiency Rating has them ranked 8th. I don't see any place that has them 10th in anything defensively.
 
Speedy said:
That's twice you've mentioned that they're 10th. Where is that coming from? I know the bogus NFL ranking of yardage has them 3rd. They're 11th in points allowed. A much truer indication of their overall performance in the formula used in the Aikman Efficiency Rating has them ranked 8th. I don't see any place that has them 10th in anything defensively.
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He's referring to Football Outsiders' rankings. That's the only place I found us 10th.
 
Hervoyel said:
I'd like to see the Chiefs come back here and at the same time the Steelers get in and eliminate the Bengals.

Then in week two we go to Denver (unavoidable and probably where we get eliminated) and they go to New England and eliminate the Patriots.

That would put the AFC Championship Game at NRG (if we managed to get past the Broncos) with us hosting Pittsburgh.

That would be a hell of a postseason for this bunch wouldn't it?
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Late to the party, but that's the exact scenario I want to happen.
 
Phoenix said:
Just stating the facts....your statement was that you feel blessed to have watched "the best defense of all time".....sorry don't take it so personal dude I didn't insult your mamma.... We have the 10th best defense in the league.....it's not my stat....I didn't make it up....it's just a fact....Peace
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If we win the Super Bowl, it will be because our defense played better than any defense has ever played.

I'm taking a shot at O'Brien & his offense.

1+1=2 and quite frankly I feel embarrassed having to explain the sarcasm to someone, presumably an adult.
 
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