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PapaL said:
As I'm watching the Patriots offense I realize ours looks nothing like it.
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As i've watched the Texans offense one thing has finally become clear. We DO play a "multiple offense." We use multiple qbs and offensive linemen in multiple positions. The game plan is roughly the same.
 
powda said:
As i've watched the Texans offense one thing has finally become clear. We DO play a "multiple offense." We use multiple qbs and offensive linemen in multiple positions. The game plan is roughly the same.
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Yeah I'm convinced our coaching staff is out thinking the room.
 
My random thought is that as crazy as it may seem, Indy is about to face a brutal schedule in which they may pop out on the other end sub .500, if the Texans can somehow tread water and hang around they could be playing meaninful games into December and dare I say... make the playoffs?.

Second random though as I type ... just how bad is this years AFC South? Someone has to win it.
 
Uncle Rico said:
My random thought is that as crazy as it may seem, Indy is about to face a brutal schedule in which they may pop out on the other end sub .500, if the Texans can somehow tread water and hang around they could be playing meaninful games into December and dare I say... make the playoffs?.

Second random though as I type ... just how bad is this years AFC South? Someone has to win it.
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Looks to be on par with last years NFC South. Sub .500 wins it and makes the dance.
 
If we're crap team that makes the playoffs winning a crap division and we get hot/lucky at the end and win 4 in a row including the SB, are we still a crap team?
 
A must positive attitude we Texans fans have had to hold onto over the years in order to survive.

getPart
 
cuppacoffee said:
Do we get our 15 yards back and take away the first down? Does the ref get fined for making a bad call?

Or does he just get suspended with pay for one game? Inquiring minds need to know.

:coffee:
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Supposedly, the refs are reviewed and graded at the completion of the season to determine their status for calling playoff games (bonus money). They are never fined or fired (a union dictum). The closest to any direct punishment, is the "half-assed" punishment seen just recently with the recent critical time clock management screw up.

NFL suspends side judge over clock mistake
October 14, 2015, 7:28 PM EDT

The official who failed to correct a clock mistake late in Monday night’s Steelers-Chargers game has been disciplined by the league.


Side judge Rob Vernatchi has been suspended for one week with pay, a source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT.

The NFL has not yet responded to PFT’s request for comment, and the NFL Referees Association could not be reached. Vernatchi is expected to file a grievance.

The NFL released a statement on Tuesday, acknowledging a clock error had taken place on Monday.

“Because of an error by the clock operator, the game clock was incorrectly started before the Steelers’ first play from scrimmage following the touchback. That first down snap came with 2:38 left to play instead of 2:56, a difference of 18 seconds,” the league’s statement said. “The official game time is kept on the stadium scoreboard, but it is the responsibility of the side judge to supervise the timing of the game. Had the side judge or any of the other six on-field officials noticed the timing error, they could have corrected it.”

This week was the second consecutive Monday night in which an official made a significant mistake late in a close game. The week before, an illegal bat penalty that should have been called on the Seahawks was overlooked, potentially costing the Lions the game.
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CloakNNNdagger said:
They are never fined or fired (a union dictum). The closest to any direct punishment, is the "half-assed" punishment seen just recently with the recent critical time clock management screw up.
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Have you got a source for that, because this showed up this past offseason...

The NFL has fired some of its worst officials.

Although NFL head of officiating Dean Blandino wasn’t quite that blunt in confirming it today, Blandino said “we moved on from” some officials who weren’t up to snuff.
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Asked how the NFL determined which officials won’t be back, Blandino said the officials are closely tracked, and if they’re consistently near the bottom of the league in their grades, they won’t be retained.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/08/nfl-has-fired-some-of-its-worst-officials/
 
Speedy said:
If we're crap team that makes the playoffs winning a crap division and we get hot/lucky at the end and win 4 in a row including the SB, are we still a crap team?
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According to some "fans" around here that are rooting for us to lose.
 
thunderkyss said:
I think you're missing the point. We're looking at Brian Hoyer after he's already played the most influential games to his development, the first 16. We haven't seen Mallett play 6 games yet. Who knows what he'll look like after 10 starts with an OC designing a game plan around what he does?

Andrew Luck's first three games, he was 51%, 64%, & 47%. He threw for 6.9, 7.2, & 6.8 ypa. 52, 107, 75 passer rating... Are you going to start Bryan Hoyer over him because his 16 game numbers are better than Luck's first three?

I know it's not apples to apples, Luck came straight out of college & his OC had the whole offense practicing around what Luck does well for 5 months. But it should be close enough for you to understand the principal.

Mallett may not be as polished as Brian Hoyer. But hopefully, because that's all we've got now, hopefully he'll be better after 10 games.

If Bryan Hoyer's career numbers, or his two game numbers after he's already started 16 games are not where you'd like your place holders numbers to be, then we need to sit Hoyer & start Mallett.
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These are such excellent points...Simple facts that aren't complicated. I don't understand why some refuse to see this. Anyone that says they can tell the upside & potential of a young QB after 6 games is out of touch w/reality. That a fan thinks they are experts of the most difficult, complicated position in all of sports is just ridiculous. If they were that brilliant at this they would be renowned QB coaches in the NFL. It can take a minimum of 1 season or more to truly tell the potential of a rookie QB. Bridgewater is a good example. The Vikings did not play him 6 games and then bench him because he didn't look like a pro bowl QB. Just the opposite. He did not look good early in the season but they played him the entire season because they understand the value of "game experience". And they understand how to "groom & develop" a young guy at this position & that it takes "time". They have a plan & a long term vision & a commitment to the QB position. Unlike Obrien & Godsey who have no long term plan, no commitment to the future & no patience or desire to "groom & develop" the QB position. They are so short sighted & clueless that Obrien has stated in press conferences that they "view each game as a season"....in other words their long term plan is 6 days at best. This is a recipe for future failure. And we're suppose to pay hard earned money to watch this incompetence coaching staff on display every Sunday. What a farce.
 
ChampionTexan said:
Have you got a source for that, because this showed up this past offseason...



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/08/nfl-has-fired-some-of-its-worst-officials/
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I found the ESPN article I remember reading re. this question.This is the bottom line of the article (but it is worth reading in full):

"There is no way they're going to replace anyone because of the way they're grading out over the course of the year," said Jim Quirk, a former NFL referee and current executive director of the NFLRA. "Nobody will be relieved of their duties because of a performance evaluation in the season. To my knowledge that's never happened and it's not going to happen. I can say that categorically."

Inside Slant: NFL doesn't demote officials during season. Should it?
6/11/2015

  • Kevin Seifert, NFL Nation

Buried in last week's NFL officiating announcement was this eye-raising note: Crew assignments "may change during the season because of injury, schedule conflicts, performance issues, etc." (Emphasis is mine.)

The NFL's bye-week schedule means that not every official works every week. Its labor agreement with the NFL Referees Association (NFLRA) guarantees payment for 15 weeks of the season. Injuries are a real, if mostly unreported, part of the job as well.

NFL officials routinely miss games for those reasons, but the passage in Friday's news release extended beyond those parameters. It suggested something no one can remember happening: swapping out officials during the season based on how well they're calling games.

The league has the capacity to do it, having revived its practice of keeping additional "swing" officials on the payroll to sub in when needed. You could make an argument that benching officials would elevate their accountability to the level of the coaches and players they share the field with. So I dug into the issue a bit this week, focusing on two questions: (1) would the NFL really sideline an official for a series of bad calls?, and (2) should it?

The short answers are highly unlikely and maybe, in that order. The NFL did not clarify its wording publicly, but in speaking to people familiar with the situation, it appears that "performance" in this context relates mostly to the physical ability to do the job. The league will not bench officials for simply making a bad call, I'm told, but has reserved the right to in extreme instances. Mistakes of judgment are inevitable, but an incorrect or missed application of a rule or its enforcement -- especially one that impacted the outcome of a game -- could merit in-season review.

We can't know the odds of such an unprecedented swap, but I can tell you the officials themselves are convinced it won't happen whether or not the possibility exists on paper.

"There is no way they're going to replace anyone because of the way they're grading out over the course of the year," said Jim Quirk, a former NFL referee and current executive director of the NFLRA. "Nobody will be relieved of their duties because of a performance evaluation in the season. To my knowledge that's never happened and it's not going to happen. I can say that categorically."

The primary use for "swing" officials, of course, will be as injury replacements. In recent years, the officiating department has needed healthy officials to double up -- working, say, a Thursday game followed by a Sunday game -- to ensure complete coverage in instances of injury. The NFL got a reminder of that need this month during a physical assessment held for all 2015 officials. On the final run, one official ruptured his Achilles tendon, requiring the NFL to hire a replacement (side judge Jonah Monroe).

A more intriguing use, of course, would be as subtle professional pressure to leverage maximum performance. Coaches get fired during the season. Players are released and demoted on a weekly basis, sometimes for the most minor of mistakes. NFL vice president of officiating Dean Blandino already has intensified its offseason evaluation, part of the reason it has turned over nearly 20 percent of its officials in the past two years. So why not at least consider the possibility of subbing out underperforming individuals during the season when replacements are available?

It wouldn't be a matter of losing a job but rather swapping a higher-profile role for a lower one. On paper, the idea has some merit.

In reality, Quirk said, the practice would do more harm than good. First, he said by telephone this week, the continuity of crews would be diminished.

"You've got seven guys who work together for 19 weeks, including the preseason," he said. "The continuity of the crew is paramount, at least in the NFL anyway. That's the way the guys feel. The league takes a lot of things into consideration when they put those crews together."

Also, Quick said, the NFL's grading system -- developed by former officiating director Art McNally -- wasn't designed to provide an actionable weekly snapshot of performance. It was intended to provide a cumulative body-of-work rating to determine which individuals or crews were awarded postseason games.

I'm not expecting to see the NFL immediately address performance issues among officials this season, despite the presence of potential replacements. It seems a fair discussion, though, if an equitable process can be implemented in the future. Few NFL field personnel are guaranteed a full season. Should officials be any different?
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Supposedly, the refs are reviewed and graded at the completion of the season to determine their status for calling playoff games (bonus money). They are never fined or fired (a union dictum). The closest to any direct punishment, is the "half-assed" punishment seen just recently with the recent critical time clock management screw up.
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Seems that these same grades could be used to replace the lower grading refs. Owners and players should be able to agree on this.

edit: just saw icaks response.

:coffee:
 
Speedy said:
If we're crap team that makes the playoffs winning a crap division and we get hot/lucky at the end and win 4 in a row including the SB, are we still a crap team?
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That's the kind of toughness, culture change I was expecting OB to bring in here.
 
thunderkyss said:
That's the kind of toughness, culture change I was expecting OB to bring in here.
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I know this is not the popular opinion, but a coach who can't discipline his mouth should not expect discipline from his players. Football is about CONTROLLED AGGRESSION. We are lacking the self control at the top.
 
I still say we should have dropped Pagan & kept Nix on the roster. I had high hopes for Pagan. But he's been an even bigger disappointment. Third round grade, we got him for a 5th? Something like that.
 
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Texans QB Ryan Mallett missed team charter and had to fly commercial to Dolphins game. I can imagine Bill OBrien reaction.
 
Damn, I thought Bud Adams was bad!! Dear Lord please bring Bud back to Houston. He's dead??!! F it bring him back anyway.....we'll prop his carcass up in place of McNair. He'll do a better job dead than McNairs doing alive. Amen
 
so whos going to the titans game I for one always like when we play the titans just cus its like are only rival anywho if we win I think these boards will be a lot more calm esp if indy losses to Carolina which prob will happen
 
Phoenix said:
Damn, I thought Bud Adams was bad!! Dear Lord please bring Bud back to Houston. He's dead??!! F it bring him back anyway.....we'll prop his carcass up in place of McNair. He'll do a better job dead than McNairs doing alive. Amen
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I will NEVER be THAT disappointed.
 
I'm guessing JJ Watt is having second thoughts on signing that 6 year contract.....6 years with the Texans in football hell sounds like a very very long time....Maybe he should miss a game day flight too & get on another leaving Houston for anywhere
 
Norg said:
so whos going to the titans game I for one always like when we play the titans just cus its like are only rival anywho if we win I think these boards will be a lot more calm esp if indy losses to Carolina which prob will happen
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Possibly, but we shouldn't be.

The goal of this team should be championships.
Winning a division playoff spot with a 5-11 record
and getting throttled 43-0 in the first half of a
playoff game is not a successful season by any means.
 
Norg said:
so whos going to the titans game I for one always like when we play the titans just cus its like are only rival anywho if we win I think these boards will be a lot more calm esp if indy losses to Carolina which prob will happen
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Wow......If playing the Titans is the high point of our season for the fans......We've truly bottomed out
 
The melodrama that is the Texans keeps rolling on. This is where the real reason that McFarland went from IR to injury settlement/release lies.

Ex-Texans tight end Mike McFarland was target of attempted extortion scheme
By Aaron Wilson on October 28, 2015 at 7:22 PM


Former Texans rookie tight end Mike McFarland was the target of an extortion scheme halted by a successful sting operation orchestrated by Texans security and Houston police officers that led to Chaz Colt Davis’ arrest on theft charges Monday, according to court records and sources not authorized to speak publicly.

The Texans declined to comment on the situation.

Houston police accused Davis, a 27-year-old Galveston man with an extensive criminal record, of attempting to “unlawfully appropriate” money from a man identified in Harris County court records as Emmett Baylor, the Texans’ director of security.

Davis attempted to obtain money from the Texans, offering to sell photos of McFarland allegedly smoking a substance alleged to be marijuana to multiple news outlets, including ABC-13. Court records and sources speaking on condition of anonymity confirmed that Davis met with Baylor at a Pappadeaux restaurant near NRG Stadium.

Davis was given a requested $3,000 by Baylor, formerly of the Federal Air Marshal Service, General Motors private security, a second deputy chief with the Detroit police department and a former Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms special agent. Davis signed some paperwork related to the situation and handed over a phone that allegedly had photos on it of McFarland. Davis was subsequently arrested by Houston police along with his girlfriend when they left the restaurant.

Davis’ previous charges include family violence, organized criminal activity, car burglary, unlawful carrying of a weapon, narcotics possession, car theft and evading arrest. Davis, who was convicted in January of possession of a controlled substance, a state jail felony, remained in police custody Wednesday evening and is being held in jail with bond set at $15,000. He’s scheduled for an initial court appearance Wednesday.

McFarland, 23, was officially removed from the Texans’ injured reserve list Tuesday with a one-week injury settlement following him suffering a high-ankle sprain during training camp. McFarland, 6-5, 252 pounds, went undrafted out of South Florida.
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CloakNNNdagger said:
The melodrama that is the Texans keeps rolling on. This is where the real reason that McFarland went from IR to injury settlement/release lies.
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Clearly that Davis dude doesn't understand the meaning of leverage. Why would the Texans give a crap about an unknown quantity smoking dope when he could easily be jettisoned, which is what they did anyway.

Crazy story.
 
Well it looks like Mallet wasn't the only player smoking weed....lol....McFarland was toking too...lol....And somebody's got a iPhone pic of it and tried to extort money from Texans...lol....You just can't make this stuff up....This Organization is like a really bad B movie on old school VHS
 
Phoenix said:
Well it looks like Mallet wasn't the only player smoking weed....lol....McFarland was toking too...lol....And somebody's got a iPhone pic of it and tried to extort money from Texans...lol....You just can't make this stuff up....This Organization is like a really bad B movie on old school VHS
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Now if someone could only get get a pic of Rick doing a goat or something.......then............
 
I wonder if I can alter my JJ Watt jersey to say WTF for the name and double question marks for the numbers.
Someone with photoshop skills and more free time than me should do this digitally.
 
This team doesn't even have enough pride to cheat a win....Holly crap can't somebody let some air out of the balls or file the opponents cleats off.....C'mon Guys!! Shoot a cocktail of steroids & meth before the game!! Damn...Do Something Besides Losing And Saying The Same Crap At Every Freaking Post Game Press Conference!!! What are you?.....bunch of damn cub scouts!!! For christ sakes how embarrassing does it have to get to convince you guys to leave your morals in the locker!
There's nothing wrong with cheating!!!.....All the great teams do it!! Hell....the least you can do is committ some blatant fouls that make it look like your as desperate as we are for a win.....Trip somebody, rough the QB, slam into a couple of refs, get McNair to pipe some laughing gas in the opponents locker room, rub Vaseline on Blues uniform. Have you not gotten to a low enough point to cheat??!! I'd take a blatant cheating scandal win this Sunday & not lose a seconds sleep over it.
 
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