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TEXANS OTAs

CloakNNNdagger

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Texans looking for backup receivers to catch on
John McClain , Houston Chronicle May 20, 2019

The first of the Texans' 10 organized team activities is Monday, and one of their goals is to find depth at wide receiver.

The Texans are set with their first three receivers — DeAndre Hopkins and Will Fuller on the outside and Keke Coutee in the slot.

Fuller is recovering from surgery in November to repair a torn ACL but will be ready for the start of the regular season against New Orleans. Coutee missed more than half of his rookie season because of a hamstring injury. The Texans are happy with his progress during the offseason program.

To add to the competition at receiver, expect general manager Brian Gaine to check out veteran free agents who don't have jobs and the waiver wire to continue to look for depth.

As it stands now, the Texans have four primary candidates looking to earn backup roles. The most prominent is slot receiver DeAndre Carter, who was claimed on waivers during the 2018 season and should return as Coutee's backup. Carter had 20 catches for 195 yards and performed well as the kickoff and punt returner.

Hopkins, Fuller, Coutee and Carter give the offense four receivers. The three leading candidates for the fifth job are second-year veterans Vyncint Smith and Jester Weah and undrafted rookie free agent Johnnie Dixon.


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maverick512000

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So question for you CnD, given the history and now the recovery what are the odds that Fuller and Coutee actually can make it through the season and are they rushing the recovery? I'll admit put a band aid on it and take Advil is about as far as my medical knowledge goes.
 

CloakNNNdagger

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So question for you CnD, given the history and now the recovery what are the odds that Fuller and Coutee actually can make it through the season and are they rushing the recovery? I'll admit put a band aid on it and take Advil is about as far as my medical knowledge goes.
I've written extensively re. Fuller's and Coutee's injuries in the Injury Thread. But to give a relatively quick answer:
Even if I were a gambler, I could not give specific odds for either making it through the whole season. However, relying alone on them to do so would not be the best strategy.

Fuller has had recurrent hamstring and knee problems since his rookie year.............studies has demonstrated that hamstring injuries increase the risk of ACL injuries, and ACL injuries increase the risk of hamstring injuries. So also consider Fuller a high risk for lower extremity injuries:

Oct 25, 2018 ACL Tear Grade 3 Fuller tore his right ACL

Aug 15, 2018 Hamstring Strain Grade 2 Fuller "tweaked" a hamstring in an August practice. He sat out the whole preseason (coming off January knee surgery) and missed the regular-season opener.

Dec 31, 2017 Knee Strain Grade 1 ..................He had "minor" surgery shortly thereafter.

Nov 12, 2017 Chest Rib Fracture left Week 10 and missed the next 3 games with cracked ribs.

Aug 2, 2017 Clavicle Fracture missed the entire preseason and 1st 3 games of the regular season.

Oct 30, 2016 Knee Strain Grade 1 left Week 8 with an unspecified left knee injury that cost him the game after the Week 9 bye.

Oct 11, 2016 NFL Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 missed 1 game because of a setback with his hamstring injury.

Sep 7, 2016 Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 popped up on the injury report leading up to Week 1 but played through his hamstring issue.


Coutee, with his multiple significant hamstring tears last season, will be considered a high risk for recurrent hamstring problems this season...........moreso, if the staff has missed an underlying functional trigger, be it anatomical or training related. As I wrote above re. Fuller, his history of hamstrings will place him at increased risk this season for other lower extremity injuries as well.
 

CloakNNNdagger

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Texans Need Deshaun Watson to Evolve + What Else to Watch for Heading into OTAs
byPatrick D. Starr

Deshaun Watson, Rookies and position groups to watch for the Houston Texans heading into OTAs.

Marking the second season of the Bill O'Brien and Brian Gaine era, there will be plenty of new faces to pay attention to when the players hit the field for OTAs on Tuesday. The Houston Texans will be starting up their OTAs at the Methodist Training Center preparing for the 2019 season. This will mark the first time that the coaching staff will see the entire 90-man roster on the field allowing them to get a closer look at their potential roster for the upcoming season.

Storylines for the Texans will evolve heading to the season, but here are some new trends we are paying attention to for OTAs.

A Revamped Secondary

As solid as the Texans defense played last season when the secondary needed to make plays when the ball was in the air in crunch-time they did not respond. At times in 2018, the secondary looked slow and outmatched against certain high-powered offenses. At the end of the season, Bill O’Brien made it clear that there would be fundamental change on the type of players needed at the position.

Exit Tyrann Mathieu, Kareem Jackson, Kayvon Webster, Kevin Johnson, and Shareece Wright, also add the retirement of Andre Hal the secondary in returning two mainstays from last seasons group, veteran Johnathan Joseph and impact rookie Justin Reid. Enter brand new faces in Bradley Roby, Briean Boddy-Calhoun, Tashun Gipson, Jahleel Addae and rookie draft picks Lonnie Johnson Jr. and Xavier Crawford. There will need to be a bounce-back season from Aaron Colvin at the slot position. Jermaine Kelly Jr., Deante Burton or rookie Derrick Baity Jr. will need to make a significant jump for a roster spot.

The Texans have to work fast to get the entire secondary on the same page, and they will be pressed for time to get the whole group to gel.


The Return of D’Onta Foreman


Returning late last season after tearing his achilles his rookie season, Foreman looked sluggish and like a player that hasn’t been on the field for a while. Also, suffering a set back during his journey back to the field, the Texans and Foreman feel that he will be ready for a bounce-back season in 2019. The Texans made little moves during the draft and free agency to suggest that they are worried about Foreman’s health. During the entire off-season, the organization has made it clear they liked the work Foreman has put in to get back in shape. With Lamar Miller entrenched as the primary running back for the offense. The Texans are expected to let Foreman prove that he can be the second running back in the offense they can depend on to make plays. There is still time for the Texans to make roster moves if Foreman shows any signs of not being ready. It is clear that Foreman is going to get plenty of work during this stretch to see what he can bring to the offense.


Are They Going to Waste Time with the Veteran Offensive Tackles?

The Texans went into the off-season with a clear plan, to upgrade the offensive tackle position. Despite sending signals, they liked how Julién Davenport was developing as a player. The Texans tried to replace him by attempting to land free agents Nate Solder and Trent Brown. Then they added often injured Matt Kalil and drafted Tytus Howard putting Davenport future with the team in doubt. The Texans also added Max Scharping in the second round despite re-signing Seantrel Henderson at the end of the season.

Are the Texans going to let time pass with giving Kalil and Henderson time with the starting group over the rookies who are the future at the position?

Over the years in the O’Brien era, the coaches have pushed first-rounders to contribute in year one and Nick Martin, a second-round selection, was instantly put into the starting lineup at center. Howard and Scharping are going to have to show they can handle the position against NFL level competition. With where both of the rookies selected with premium picks, the wait shouldn’t belong to see the two pushing to be starters protecting Deshaun Watson for the long haul.


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#Texans 1st and 2nd round picks Tytus Howard and Max Scharping are practicing at the left and right guard spots, respectively.

— Aaron Reiss (@aaronjreiss) May 21, 2019


#Texans rookie CB Lonnie Johnson is working with the 1 defense at OTAs.

— Aaron Reiss (@aaronjreiss) May 21, 2019
1. Possible early thoughts: Kalil/Davenport and Henderson are getting all the reps at L/R tackle. Also possible that they start them at G before moving them further outside.

2. I think Lonnie needs a lot of work. If he's starting with the 1's he has either impressed the coaches from rookie minicamp or they're letting some of the vets sit out of OTA's.
 

TheKDog

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Are They Going to Waste Time with the Veteran Offensive Tackles?

Well I hope so. Expecting the developmental rookies to start right away or even in year 1 is a bit delusional.

Unfortunately it's also delusional to think kalil and Seantrel will be healthy and good.
 

zshawn10

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Bill O’Brien says he’s soon "good progress" from D’Onta Foreman this offseason. Talks to him about consistency and continuing to string good days together. #Texans #OTAs

— Deepi Sidhu (@DeepSlant) May 21, 2019


Bill O’Brien on if the #Texans have interest in Gerald McCoy: "There’s a lot of players on the waiver wire. We talk about those everyday."

— Aaron Reiss (@aaronjreiss) May 21, 2019


Justin Reid says he is going to be resource to his new secondary teammates. #Texans

— patrick (@PatDStat) May 21, 2019


Justin Reid credits Johnathan Joseph for his quick transition to the NFL, says he learned a lot from the veteran CB. #Texans #OTAs

— Deepi Sidhu (@DeepSlant) May 21, 2019
 
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zshawn10

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#Texans DL D.J. Reader said of course he wants to get to the second contract. Feels like he has a home in Houston. pic.twitter.com/TN1eHnO30G

— Cody Stoots (@Cody_Stoots) May 21, 2019


Bill O'Brien on Jadeveon Clowney (@clownejd): "I have every belief and trust that JD's working on his own and getting ready for whenever he decides to show up. JD's played good football for us. He knows what it takes to be ready for training camp." #Texans pic.twitter.com/FkSwrRKGRD

— Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) May 21, 2019


O’Brien said RB D’Onta Foreman and WR Keke Coutee have both had good springs.

— Drew Dougherty (@DoughertyDrew) May 21, 2019


"Good learner, comes in early, works hard" – O’Brien on TE Kahale Warring. #Texans #OTAs

— Deepi Sidhu (@DeepSlant) May 21, 2019
 

zshawn10

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Seventh round pick Cullen Gillaspia said he feels a little ahead of the learning curve because A&M’s concepts are similar to what the #Texans demand out of fullbacks.

"I still have a lot to learn," he adds. "This playbook is huge."

— Aaron Reiss (@aaronjreiss) May 21, 2019


All about building something in OTAs for #Texans QB Deshaun Watson. pic.twitter.com/iQOTzgrrd6

— Cody Stoots (@Cody_Stoots) May 21, 2019


Deshaun Watson mentions Tyron Johnson and Johnnie Dixon when asked about the rookie wide receviers making impressions. #Texans

— patrick (@PatDStat) May 21, 2019
 

CloakNNNdagger

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CloakNNNdagger

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Aaron Wilson‏@AaronWilson_NFL 3h3 hours ago
Deshaun Watson @deshaunwatson on Tytus Howard @levelstothis_2 'He's going to bring a little nastiness. He's a guy who loves to compete and have fun. You can see it in the huddle. You can see it on the field.'


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Haven't heard that word in context of our OTs lately...........makes me think of raw meat waved in front of a mad dog.:pirate:
 

zshawn10

All Pro
OTAs Day One

The Texans cut Deshaun Watson loose, and despite the first day of work, his best work came controlling the offense. Accuracy and mechanics for Watson will come with more practices on the field. Without his top targets on the field, Watson looked calm and was able to check the offense into looks sliding protections and more importantly, finding the right reads. Watson, entering year three, has all the physical tools to make plays but continuing to build his mental game is going to be the key for the offense to continue to take off.


The rookie wide receiver Tyron Johnson is continuing a strong start he had a rookie mini-camp and carried it over to OTAs. Johnson was able to show his skills much more on the field and not only his speed stands out but his overall quickness to make defenders miss. He also caught the ball well when it's thrown to him, and his best trait was him getting into his routes in a hurry to put pressure on the defense. That trait was able to open up space for others to make plays, and that caught some attention.


It was a solid day for Julién Davenport who looks lighter and more honed in on his job on the offensive line. It is early, but he kept Deshaun Watson clean and Davenport had plenty of work on the field. His conditioning looks good, which is a good sign for the start of OTAs. Davenport will be in direct competition trying to land one of the starting spots on the offensive line.


Inside linebacker Peter Kalamabyi was playing fast today on the field diagnosing plays and more importantly creating issues for the offense. Beating offensive players to their spots, Kalambayi was working inside out of the defense making plays in a hurry. It was a solid first day for the second day inside linebacker.


Tytus Howard received his welcome to the NFL moment working against Whitney Mercilus in pass rushing situation. Mercilus made it look easy with a quick move knocking Howard off balance and that collapsed the pocket. These types of situations are precisely what Howard needs to succeed in the NFL, a complete crash course matching up with top NFL talent like Mercilus because the Texans are going to need Howard during the season. As for Howard as a whole, the Texans worked him hard in day one and coached him hard in the process. The Texans are pushing Howard on the field to make sure he understands that this game is not easy and they are pushing Howard to get better on the field. It is going to be a process, but for the most part, he held his own on the field against the competition.

The Texans have a player in Lonnie Johnson Jr. and what he can do in coverage. His sheer size tower over opposing wide receivers and if he gets a bump on them before they get into their routes, the timing was thrown off. Johnson also holds an advantage hone he gets downfield with his size and it showed with him breaking up a pass in the end zone. Johnson had an active first day in OTAs in the secondary which is a good sign. It will be constant work for him to continue to stack good days on top of each other to get ready for the season.


D’Onta Foreman has put the work in to get back into football shape, which is a huge plus. No longer the thick-framed running back out of Texas, he has cut down his bulk and added real muscle needed to make it in the NFL. He cut and ran with a purpose today on the field and showed no effects of an achilles injury that slowed him last season. Foreman and Lamar Miller at this rate will be the Texans top two options at the position if health remains on their side heading to the regular season.
https://twitter.com/SOTTexans/status/1130908236348047360
 

beerlover

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I'm sure we all should know that OTAs and any reports that we as fans can walk away with are purely fluf fand hype and almost impossible to form valid conclusions. It's a time to react with excitement.....or depression if we are filtered the occasional negatives.
Actually expected as much from Julie’n. It’s going to be harder than most people think to dislodge him from being starting LT. In time or injury yes, that’s certainly a possibility, it’s also a possibility he plays there for a long, long time.
 
After watching some clips here and there it kind of looks like Howard needs to get rid of some bad weight. He should progress week to week as he gets into an NFL weight room with an NFL meal program.
 

IDEXAN

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Please delete Julién Davenport part, don’t want to set off steelbtexan :headhurts:
It was a solid day for Julién Davenport who looks lighter and more honed in on his job on the offensive line. It is early, but he kept Deshaun Watson clean and Davenport had plenty of work on the field. His conditioning looks good, which is a good sign for the start of OTAs. Davenport will be in direct competition trying to land one of the starting spots on the offensive line.
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No can do ! But that's a good start for big Dave.
 

steelbtexan

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Actually expected as much from Julie’n. It’s going to be harder than most people think to dislodge him from being starting LT. In time or injury yes, that’s certainly a possibility, it’s also a possibility he plays there for a long, long time.
It's also possible if this happens Henderson could miss another season, or Watson could get his neck broken. Given that this is the Texans/Devlin we are talking about, this wouldn't surprise me at all.
 

steelbtexan

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Good God Man :chili:
We were just talking about possibilities here.

Since one possiblity has already happened which do you think is more likely,

Davenport being the long term answer at LT, or him getting Henderson's ankle broken again?
 

TheKDog

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"Tytus Howard received his welcome to the NFL moment working against Whitney Mercilus in pass rushing situation. Mercilus made it look easy with a quick move knocking Howard off balance and that collapsed the pocket. These types of situations are precisely what Howard needs to succeed in the NFL, a complete crash course matching up with top NFL talent like Mercilus because the Texans are going to need Howard during the season. As for Howard as a whole, the Texans worked him hard in day one and coached him hard in the process. The Texans are pushing Howard on the field to make sure he understands that this game is not easy and they are pushing Howard to get better on the field. It is going to be a process, but for the most part, he held his own on the field against the competition."

He's a rookie and a bit of a project. Going to take awhile.
 

beerlover

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We were just talking about possibilities here.

Since one possiblity has already happened which do you think is more likely,

Davenport being the long term answer at LT, or him getting Henderson's ankle broken again?
Both solidify Texan tackle position for awhile (yet to be determined) thanks to a pair of All Pro Guard play from Howard and Scharping. When time comes to replace both they kick outside. How’s that for possibilities :texflag:
 

steelbtexan

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Both solidify Texan tackle position for awhile (yet to be determined) thanks to a pair of All Pro Guard play from Howard and Scharping. When time comes to replace both they kick outside. How’s that for possibilities :texflag:
Davenport solidify the LT position? LMAO More likely Kalil on one leg.

If Howard/Scharping are all pro OG's leave them there and draft another LT next yr in the much deeper LT market. Here's an idea, spend the freakin $$$$ and bring in a starting level FA LT. (Not gonna happen)
 

beerlover

Hall of Fame
Davenport solidify the LT position? LMAO More likely Kalil on one leg.

If Howard/Scharping are all pro OG's leave them there and draft another LT next yr in the much deeper LT market. Here's an idea, spend the freakin $$$$ and bring in a starting level FA LT. (Not gonna happen)
Oh the possibilities :chef:
 

Seegara

Guitar Picker, Dog Lover, Woodworker
uhmm...davenport might be wanting to play his A$$ off, there is both short and long-term replacement already rostered.
If Davenport can step up in the face of competition, that means he doesn't do his best normally, and recidivism is likely once he gets rid of the competition. Will he revert back to his lazy self?
 

steelbtexan

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If Davenport can step up in the face of competition, that means he doesn't do his best normally, and recidivism is likely once he gets rid of the competition. Will he revert back to his lazy self?
If he's able to step up.

If he wins the LT position it will be because Kalil cant make it back from injury and Howard isn't ready to play LT. Not because of some great improvement by Davenport.
 

zshawn10

All Pro
Stoots: 11 observations from Texans OTAs

First round, first taste for Tytus Howard
The Texans top draft pick from this year’s class doesn’t look out of place with other offensive lineman. His body is there. He did have some rookie moments and a couple of welcome to the NFL moments at the hands of Whitney Mercilus. Howard said he doesn’t mind the work at various positions he is getting. The Texans have been known to throw a lot at their rookies but especially their offensive linemen. Brian Gaine and Bill O’Brien have made no secret they want to see where Howard and fellow draft pick Max Scharping fit and how they can help the team different ways. "He learns well," Bill O’Brien said. "He’s just getting acclimated to the speed of how we practice over the last two days. For every rookie, that’s a big jump. But I think he’s a guy that, if he continues to work the way he works, he’ll get better every day."

Lookout for Lonnie
It isn’t hard to find the Texans second round pick Lonnie Johnson Jr. The Texans haven’t had a cornerback in his mold probably in the entire time Bill O’Brien has been the coach of this team. He towers above most his defensive back teammates. His base is a lot more solid than you would think for someone who has such good length to his body. He diagnosed some plays pretty well today and even when the rep looks lost his makeup ability is clear. He looked like he was going to get beat on a play today and the next thing you know he knocked the ball down. It will be interesting how much the Texans trust him early in his career and his development from now through training camp will be something to watch closely. "He’s a real big kid," Justin Reid said. "He’s a big kid. Almost bigger than me. You see it when he plays. You see it on the practice film. He knows how to use it as well, which is one of the good things about having good corners, is they know how to actually body receivers, especially if they’re going against a big guy. He’s someone that we can see as a potential matchup for those type of situations."

Coutee right where he left off
Keke Coutee was one of the most dynamic offensive weapons the Texans had last season. Unfortunately injuries plagued his rookie year limiting his time on the field and his production. If he is healthy, my goodness. Coutee never had a defender around him very long. He looked every bit the key piece he did last season. He is going to be a fun watch and will be a great matchup for the Texans defensive backs to work against.

Warring showcasing skills
Watching a handful of reps for Kahale Warring it is clear why he is here. He played at a school that didn’t throw the ball much and when they did the talent throwing the ball wasn’t great. He was the best pass catcher they have and oh by the way he has only played football for a few years. You can’t tell that’s the case. I will be anxious to see more of him. He looks fluid and smooth in his movements which often indicates he is picking things up fast and not thinking much. Blocking when the pads come on will be something to watch, but watching him run routes is fun. Athletes aren’t usually moving as well as he does at that size. These tight ends might be pound-for-pound the most athletic group on the team.

Lots of bodies catching lots of passes
Johnnie Dixon showed off in rookie camp but there are plenty of other players to watch in the quest to make this time as a wideout. Tyron Johnson from Oklahoma State as well as Dixon both earned kudos from quarterback Deshaun Watson. They join names like Steven Mitchell Jr., Isaac Whitney, Floyd Allen, Jester Weah, and second-year wideout Vyncint Smith among others vying for a spot on the team. There will be plenty of reps to go around as Will Fuller continues his recovery from injury and if Deandre Hopkins has his work load managed similar to last preseason. It might come down to who can help the most on special teams as well. Special Adviser to the Head Coach and General Manager Andre Johnson was on hand helping out with the wide receivers.

It’s a long name but worth learning
Briean Boddy-Calhoun is a veteran trying to make the Texans at cornerback. His previous stint was with Cleveland where Browns fans were surprisingly a little sad to see him leave this offseason. He was all over the place today. His experience with pass defense packages will be key in his efforts to make the team. He also has experience playing safety as well. He was talking to all the defensive backs from safeties to rookies and veterans and corners. Being a veteran sponge will help him stick.

Mercilus begins contract year
If they Texans had to play a game tomorrow without Jadeveon Clowney and Whitney Mercilus lined up across from J.J. Watt as the other pass rusher it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. Mercilus was all over the field in the workout. He looks to be in great shape, but of course he always is, and he wasn’t winded at any moment. He is in the final year of his second contract and most NFL players don’t see a third. Certainly not with the same team. Mercilus will have to have a nice year to reach that situation after a year lost to injury and a down year statistically. He is a veteran and a leader on this team and should the team not have Clowney at any point Mercilus can pick up some of the pass rushing slack.

Do your job, make the team, stay on the team, repeat
Peter Kalambayi was a little bit of a surprise to make the Texans last year to me. He ended up on the team as a do-it-all linebacker and played pretty well in his special teams reps. He looked really good today. His name was called out for accolades on one play and he found himself around the ball in the reps. He also showed off good basics and movement in a drill against skill players who were trying to shake defenders. There is absolutely room for him on the roster and his contributions can be even more than last year with his rookie year under his belt.

D’Onta Foreman 2.0
D’Onta Foreman looks like a totally different guy. I have been seeing the hard work on social media but until you see them in person you aren’t sure if it is paying off. It paid off. His body looks different and the burst, albeit in a low-to-no contact environment, looked solid. He has more wiggle than he has previously shown. He has to be good for the Texans and the lack of investment in the position shows the team’s faith in him. He and Lamar Miller, who looks to be in great shape as he was a year ago maybe even better shape, will have to guide the ground game. There is too much uncertainty behind them and even at this point a new face would need to do some catching up. "I think he’s had a very good offseason," said Bill O’Brien. "He’s worked very hard. Sometimes it takes time, especially when you’re injured your rookie year with a significant injury. You have something you’re dealing with like he did with the Achilles. It takes a while to come back from that. Young player, getting used to pro football, then you have that. So, I think he’s had a really good time away from us, when he wasn’t with us, and that has parlayed into a good spring." If boxing classes paid off like this for D’Onta Foreman I need to get me some gloves.

Speaking of body transformations…
Martinas Rankin looks a lot different. Slimmer in the lower midsection and maybe even thicker up top. Remember, he had a foot injury that slowed his time on the field before the season got started last year. He is a potentially key offensive lineman with his versatility. It will be a fun watch when the pads come on to see what Rankin brings to the table.

Jordan Thomas is another player who looks to be in even better shape than last year as well. Watching him run still feels like a sleek bouncer chasing down an unruly patron. I say that with the most possible endearment I can. He’s a crazy good athlete.

Justin Reid…more like Justin Leader…
Justin Reid has seen the field as a member of the Texans more than any other safety on the roster. Now, that’s not to say the second-year player has the most experience, but he has the most experience as a member of the Texans. That seems wild for a second-year player to have that designation but it is the truth and a testament to how well Reid played last year. "The room is a little bit different now but we have phenomenal guys like T-Gip (Tashaun Gipson Sr.), (Bradley) Roby, (Briean) Boddy(-Calhoun)," said Reid. "The guys that we’ve brought in, the rookies, have been doing well. I’m impressed with how they’ve played these last two days. So, we’ve been building as a unit and our chemistry has been getting better every day." He and Tashaun Gipson have formed a close bond already. Reid said he feels like he has known his fellow safety for a long time when they haven’t actually been teammates that long. Reid mentioned they almost feel interchangeable in their skills and is excited to play with the former Jaguars safety.
 
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HaveMercy

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I don't think anyone expects Davenport to solidify the LT position, though that would be a nice surprise. If it's needed, Davenport and Kalil can hopefully hold the fort while THoward gets worked into the LT spot.
 

AcresHomesTexan

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If Davenport can step up in the face of competition, that means he doesn't do his best normally, and recidivism is likely once he gets rid of the competition. Will he revert back to his lazy self?
Because a person changes behavior(or even continues to develop) in order to improve performance, it does not mean he was "lazy" to begin with. Davenport's reaction to direct competition could simply give him a better understanding of what it takes to perform at an NFL level.

As for the other faulty premise, I don't think lack of competition is going to return any time soon. Remember long-term there are two draft picks right behind Davenport with experience playing LT.
 

JB

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Because a person changes behavior(or even continues to develop) in order to improve performance, it does not mean he was "lazy" to begin with. Davenport's reaction to direct competition could simply give him a better understanding of what it takes to perform at an NFL level.

As for the other faulty premise, I don't think lack of competition is going to return any time soon. Remember long-term there are two draft picks right behind Davenport with experience playing LT.
Yes, the premise that if one improves with competition + time equates to one was lazy before is asinine at best
 

TheKDog

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Reading between the lines, Tytus is having a rough start.

They keep throwing a lot at the OL, an approach that hasn't worked.

Meanwhile:.

@BrandonGowton: Andre Dillard’s "athleticism has flashed big-time early on"

#Eagles https://t.co/l7abTRP73s
 

maverick512000

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Reading between the lines, Tytus is having a rough start.

They keep throwing a lot at the OL, an approach that hasn't worked.

Meanwhile:.

@BrandonGowton: Andre Dillard’s "athleticism has flashed big-time early on"

#Eagles https://t.co/l7abTRP73s
Think you're reading what you want to read between the lines. I read it as they put him in a situation that they knew he was over his head for so he could see what he's in for. I mean if he could have stopped Mercilus his first day then either Howard would have been the greatest rookie OT ever or Mercilus is way, way over paid.
 
Think you're reading what you want to read between the lines. I read it as they put him in a situation that they knew he was over his head for so he could see what he's in for. I mean if he could have stopped Mercilus his first day then either Howard would have been the greatest rookie OT ever or Mercilus is way, way over paid.
Exactly. Mercilus has had multiple seasons of double digit sacks but because a rookie couldn't shut him down there must be a problem with the kid.
 
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