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Texans Offensive Line
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sprtsfanatic
Veteran
So...no one has any hope for the OL from michigan to have any impact after rehabbing and coming back this year?? Last year he was supposed to be a monster and really good...but havent heard anything from him as of yet...
Number19
Hall of Fame
Henderson? He never started in college, although he saw action in the games. Drafted in the 7th round in '23. Plays OG. Long shot to make the 53. Maybe the PS.
What you call maturing, I call sucking less. Fisher has a lot to prove. Competition should do him well.
Breakout means a lobotomy
I'm thinking he's going to have a Wyatt Teller type career.
Unfortunately
Number19
Hall of Fame
Like or dislike PFF, from one year to the next they are on average reliably consistent. As a rookie, they had Juice's offensive grade as 47.5, PB grade as 48.9 and RB grade as 50.8.
Last year they had his offensive grade improving to 63.0, PB grade to 62.1 and RB grade to 63.7.
If he continues to improve his PFF numbers and get his grades into the 70's, this improvement should be apparent even to the discerning eyes of this board's members.
Now, the question is, do we think Juice will continue to improve. Plain and simple, we need for him to do so to solidify the RG position.
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
LaDarius Henderson may be a long shot but he started 39 games in college (29 at Ariz St and 10 at Michigan)
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Maybe but it’s not like there’s a juggernaut of elite players he needs to get past
TheRealJoker V2
All Pro
Another vote for Ersery as OT only:
www.profootballrumors.com
Texans To Keep Aireontae Ersery At OT
The Texans are planning to keep No. 48 pick Aireontae Ersery at offensive tackle in the NFL.
www.profootballrumors.com
TheRealJoker V2
All Pro
Nick has said they view OL in clusters. How would you place the OL currently on the roster in these clusters? For me it’s:
Tackle only = Robinson, Ersery, Fisher, Deculus
Tackle/Guard = Howard, maybe Brown
Guard/Center = Patterson, Scruggs
Center only = Andrews, Cox
Guard only = Tomlinson, Ingram
Tackle only = Robinson, Ersery, Fisher, Deculus
Tackle/Guard = Howard, maybe Brown
Guard/Center = Patterson, Scruggs
Center only = Andrews, Cox
Guard only = Tomlinson, Ingram
Number19
Hall of Fame
You are correct, my bad.
I'd add that his snaps at Michigan were at LT. At Arizonia, mostly LT and LG. Perhaps he can push Tomlinson and Howard, especially if they keep 10 on the OL or if there are injuries.
I don't know but my preference is not to move Ersery around but to keep him at one position (LT?) as a rookie. Let Henderson compete at LG.
Of course positions could change in TC but once they decide where to play the young players, leave them to learn and progress at that position. Just my basic philosphy.
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
This would be my preference too. It's going to be interesting to see who's starting when the regular season begins.
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welsh texan
You may say I’m a dreamer but I’m not the only one
I have a real concern that we are back to the Patriots OL coaching philosophy of being versatile at multiple positions.
We have 12 players to fill 5 starting spots, most of whom are trying out for 2/3/4 different positions.
It sounds great in a press conference to say we’ll find a way to get our best 5 OL on the field, but with a very restricted offseason program, it seems a monumental task to find that best combination whilst trying to coach up a cast of players who are all either youngsters needing to improve up to NFL standard or veterans whose careers have gone off the rails for whatever reason.
Porky
Hall of Fame
Agreed. This has a minor to fair chance to blow up in their faces and completely derail this season. Nick failed to adequately address offensive line, and the strategy seems to be to play pin the tail on the donkey and hope it all magically works.
A team is only going to dress 8 OL in a game. So there has to be some versatility among the O-linemen. The young OTs are staying at OT. But even they need to learn both sides. Patterson and Scruggs need to play anywhere on the interior, especially the guy that loses the OC starting jobs. The rest of the guys are vets that know the drill. Getting the 5 best guys for 2025 should be the goal heading into camp.
TheRealJoker V2
All Pro
Agreed. This is not Patriots specific either like another poster had mentioned. Just the reality of only dressing 8 OL on game day.
Former Texans OL Chris Clark was interviewed on Texans All Access Friday. Good interview from a former UDFA who managed to carve out a 12 year career in the NFL. He said that unless you are a first round pick/entrenched starter you play wherever the team needs you. And as a UDFA especially he kept that chip on his shoulder and never got complacent that he was “definitely” the starting LT/RT. He credited his 12 year career on communication (something he said the Texans OL lacked last season) and playing wherever he was asked to play.
cland
Rookie
I agree, but to welsh texans point the concern is that you're developing "jack-of-all-trades" lineman rather than a master of one. The good news is that Caley joined the Rams staff in the first year of transitioning from zone to gap. So he certainly has experience in transitioning an entire line to a different scheme, and he should have some insight on what works and what doesn't.
I do have some concern that training players at multiple positions in a multiple schemed line (assuming that's true) could lead to some issues due to the complexities that creates.
Porky
Hall of Fame
The offensive line is the achilles heel of this team. We can place a lot of hope in these FA’s and Caley…all unproven. And a couple of rookies at skill positions…also unproven. If this thing blows up, its on tricky Nicky who took the easy path failed to adequately address the weakest group on the team.
That said…losing Tunsil was a huge win. I expect better communication, certainly better be.
It could go either way. If it works…Nick will look like a genius. If it doesn’t he will be wearing a dunce cap and sent to the corner.
That said…losing Tunsil was a huge win. I expect better communication, certainly better be.
It could go either way. If it works…Nick will look like a genius. If it doesn’t he will be wearing a dunce cap and sent to the corner.
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
Yeah that communication comment makes sense to me. Furthermore it would seem that the ability to play more than one position could only enhance communication. At the same time this certainly doesn’t preclude a natural position player from assuming that role only. Lucky is right, does any other game day position have so many skill set needs filled by so few players.
I agree with what you guys are saying, and I have another example. The QB is expected to know the responsibilities for each player on offense on each play. The offensive linemen need to understand the responsibilities of the linemen next to them as well as their own. That's how they can cover for one another and become a cohesive unit. That's what we did not see in 2024.
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
Yes that’s what I consider as undersized. Arms are honestly of higher consideration than actual height for the position imo.
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
There’s some very very very strong revisionist history when it comes to Henderson. He was not supposed to be a monster and really good last year. He was a very late round pick and wasn’t entirely highly rated by draftniks either. He eventually gained the starting LT job at Michigan after an injuries and to his credit never let it go. That said his play never really said starting LT and most of his projection is about playing guard which he did quite well at Arizona State.
I personally liked the kid and his story and what I saw of him in interviews and posted as such in his draft thread.
That said he was nothing more than a long shot. There’s some weird revisionist history going around on social media that I do not understand whatsoever. It’s not like he came into training camps and blew the doors off. He was a low rated prospect who was injured.
Which actually hurts his chances imo. I don’t know the details of his injuries but foot injuries and playing o-line usually aren’t a good combination. He apparently had a foot problem before we drafted him and then another foot problem that saw him miss camps entirely and miss the season as a whole. To put it mildly that’s not a good sign.
He went from long shot to loooooong shot. I hope for him but missing your entire first year of development especially due to foot issues is never a good sign. People trying to rewrite history to create some type of false optimism for this o-line doesn’t change that.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Let's hope Tricky Nick didn't trick himself on this oline rebuild. Sure hope it works, I don't see how, but I hope it does. LOL