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...Houston remains the only team talking trade with the Bills for running back Travis Henry.
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...Houston remains the only team talking trade with the Bills for running back Travis Henry.
wags said:Why?![]()
wags said:Why?![]()
ArlingtonTexan said:I think that Henry and Davis are in the same class of back. Guys who can do somethings and put up solid production, but if you have a chance to get an elite player you do so. Not the worse thing they could , but I am not convinced that he would an upgrade over anything the Texans have.
Nobody in their right mind is going to give up a 1st and 3rd for DD, so get that scenerio out of your head.
Nawzer said:D.D. is injury prone and last year his fumbling early in the season proved very costly. Maybe the Texans brass knows something about D.D. that we don't know and that maybe the reason they are pursuing Travis Henry. As a player, I think Henry is slightly better than D.D. and both of them will make an excellent backfield for us. I really didn't expect us to pursue Henry so I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out why the Texans are doing this...
If Henry is better than any back on our roster then we are admitting we have not done a very good job in drafting a RB and would consider Morency and Hollings a bust.Porky said:I am a bit surprised they are pursuing him, but Henry is clearly better than any back on our roster that we know of (Morency is an open book). I think that answers your question. If we can get him for our 4th rd pick next yr, that is a major steal. I wouldn't be totally opposed to our second 3rd rounder either, but any higher than that, and I begin to back off. My only concern is his propensitiy to cough up the ball.
Let me answer for the DD fans:Porky said:Let me ask all the DD fans a question. If DD is as good as a Travis Henry, why is it that the Texans have looked to upgrade at every available opportunity? See Hollings, Mgahee, Henry, Morency, et al.
pure mythrittenhouserobz said:Capers like bigger backs.
Vinny said:pure myth
SESupergenius said:If Henry is better than any back on our roster then we are admitting we have not done a very good job in drafting a RB and would consider Morency and Hollings a bust.
Lucky said:Let me answer for the DD fans:
Hollings - The Texans took Hollings in the '03 supplemental. Before Davis had ever played a down for the Texans. At that point, the Texans were hoping that Domanick would become a 3rd down back & returner.
MaGahee(?) - The Texans never had MaGahee on the roster. He was drafted in the 1st round of the '03 draft by Buffalo.
Henry - Um, have you considered that this story is total bunk?
Morency - This pick reflects as much on Tony Hollings as it does on Davis. If Hollings had been able to stay healthy last year and show that he can play in the league, I doubt Morency would have been the pick for the Texans. It's not that the '04 season showed that DD couldn't play...it's that it showed that the team needs another back to lighten his load. And the Texans can't count on Hollings to be that back.
Edit: Here is an important stat whenever considering a RB for the Texans. Touches/Fumble. Travis Henry has fumbled 23 times in his career for a 46.3 touches/fumble ratio. Domanick Davis, despite his troubles last season, averages 81.9 touches/fumble. You can't be a fumbler and expect to play RB for Dom Capers.
The Texans have one of the better run blocking lines in the NFL. For some reason most of you guys think pass blocking skills equate to run blocking skills.Cjeremy635 said:Come on, back to back 1,000 yard seasons with a horrible O line is pretty good in my book. Tough to get the huge yardage when the defense gets you in the backfield![]()
DC_ROCK said:Why would we want a player who wants to be a starter? We have Davis. And he will fill that role this season.
I would use our money where we need it most. O-line, or TE.
Vinny said:The Texans have one of the better run blocking lines in the NFL. For some reason most of you guys think pass blocking skills equate to run blocking skills.
The pre-injury McGahee was the best college back to come out since Barry Sanders in terms of raw ability. Awesome. I doubt the Lions would have let him get past #2. Casserly might have traded up with the Bengals at #1 to get Willis. He was that good. Too bad, but I haven't seen the same explosiveness in McGahee since.Porky said:...it was a very badly kept secret that Cass was hot to trot for Willis before his injury in the Orange Bowl. He was going to draft him at #3 over AJ...
At this point in the offseason we have to realize that none of our prayers have been answered for the coming of the messiah of our o-line, our o-line is just not going to be that much better next year.
Cjeremy635 said:Vinny,
It was apparent that they changed to the zone blocking scheme to open holes for DD and the rest of the ruuning backs. They stated that. If they are one of the better run blocking teams in the league, why aren't the holes there and why are the defenders in the back field or meeting him at the line of scrimmage. I don't care if you are a 280 lb. back, it's tough to run over two 300+ lb line man when he meats you at the line. As I stated at the beginning of this post, didn't the Texans say they changed to the zone blocking scheme due to its ability to open more holes for the running game and that they Patriots had a lot of success in their running game with this style? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
JackDizzle said:We were the #12 rushing team in the NFL last season. That hardly constitutes a failure.
Vinny said:The Texans have one of the better run blocking lines in the NFL. For some reason most of you guys think pass blocking skills equate to run blocking skills.
DC_ROCK said:Why would we want a player who wants to be a starter? We have Davis. And he will fill that role this season.
I would use our money where we need it most. O-line, or TE.
ojthecat said:Ok. Understand that with the CAP you cannot save money from this year and spend it next so who are these TE's that you will spend money on? And who are the OLmen that you will spend money on?
canadiantexan said:I dont think some people research or have facts to back up what they say on the board makes you wonder where there coming from
wags said:Why?![]()
atxcoolguy said:maybe we trade ragone for henry and 2nd or 3rd rounder.
I'm a pretty fanatical game film watcher and I see good run blocking on the primary and secondary levels in our linemen. All teams zone block and all teams man block. If you watch, we do both as well, we just zone block as our primary technique. "Changing to zone blocking" is simply doing more of one than another. Here is a nice article that featured Davis for you guys that don't follow linemen techniques and game play as much as I do. It won't resolve any arguments here but it further helps understand what we are talking about.Cjeremy635 said:Vinny,
It was apparent that they changed to the zone blocking scheme to open holes for DD and the rest of the ruuning backs. They stated that. If they are one of the better run blocking teams in the league, why aren't the holes there and why are the defenders in the back field or meeting him at the line of scrimmage. I don't care if you are a 280 lb. back, it's tough to run over two 300+ lb line man when he meats you at the line. As I stated at the beginning of this post, didn't the Texans say they changed to the zone blocking scheme due to its ability to open more holes for the running game and that they Patriots had a lot of success in their running game with this style? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
But the graph indicates that he was more consistent in the zone blocking scheme, i.e. a greater proportion of his runs were between the extremes of "stuffed" and "long run", which means he was stuffed less but also had fewer long runs. The numbers bear this out in the zone blocking scheme he had 73.3% of his runs between 1 and 9 yards, but in the man blocking scheme only 64% of his runs were in that range. Visually this is obvious, as is the fact that he had more stuffs and long runs.
atxcoolguy said:my only questions are why would buffalo want to get rid of henry? is mcgahee better or cheaper? does henry want to be a starter and is mcgahee threatening that? i know mcgahee was a badass in college, but henry was clearly the better back going into last season. just wondering what changed their minds.
DD is the running back for us I think he will prove it this year. I'll put it on the line, he reminds me of Priest Holmes. To me he was 70% of our offense last year-runs and catches. It's good to have a back like that.