AgreedAgainst who? The Dolphins? I did not see a single website that had the Texans as anything but underdogs. This defense is on pace to give up over 550 points this season. Hell, maybe even more. We need a complete defense overhaul!
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AgreedAgainst who? The Dolphins? I did not see a single website that had the Texans as anything but underdogs. This defense is on pace to give up over 550 points this season. Hell, maybe even more. We need a complete defense overhaul!
I feel sorry for David Johnson. He will be abused this season since he’s the only one on offense that is worth a damn.So that’s what spreading the ball around now that Nuk is not here looks like?
Fuller with 10 targets
Cooks - 5 (1 in 2nd half)
Stills and Cobb combined had zero targets through 3 quarters.
Great game plan.
I was responding to your comment that he caught everything thrown his way. If you really think he would have made a difference tonight, you're delusionalJB, did you really think I thought he "never" dropped a pass. Come on man, he had 8 catches for 111 and 2 TDs in that game. Do ya think we could have used him tonight? Did ya really not get the point I was making? Our quarterback lost his go to guy and he didn't have one tonight. We were sold a bill of goods that we'd actually be better without DHop. Somehow when you take away a guy that gets double and triple teamed it's supposed to open up your offense.
If you don't think he would have made a difference... you're delusional.I was responding to your comment that he caught everything thrown his way. If you really think he would have made a difference tonight, you're delusional
I really hoped for the best.....but once again they laid an eggDid y’all really expect anything more or less from a Bill O’Brian product? If you did, that’s where your really mistaken.
Absolutely not.Did y’all really expect anything more or less from a Bill O’Brian product? If you did, that’s where your really mistaken.
There was nothing about this game that showed progress at any level of football. Losing and getting blown out are two different things. This is the same garbage we see every year under OB. Nothing changes. Make excuses all you want but this showing is exactly what one expects with OB at the helm. Unprepared and lethargic.Seems we ran alot more screens than in the past...& they were successful.
apart from that, I’m not putting a whole lot into this game....we were set up to lose...
gotta take this game with a grain of salt. That was the best qb in the league we played today. A lot of things he was doing there’s probably like 1 other guy in the league who could do it..R E L A X.
Not disputing any of your points - but I find it funny that Kubiak is now the positive example of an offensive coach. When he was here people were really upset with him - he had scripted the first drive of every half, but after that his playcalling often was scrutinized. Especially because of his risk aversion and trying playing way too conservative. Not saying people back then were right - I also thought then they were exaggerating - but he wasnt an offensive mastermind here. And he was working with a top 5 defense for a lot of seasons as well, thanks to Wade.I use Kubiak as a reference but you can take any good offensive (or defensive) staff and it’s the same thing.
I didnt expect us to win, but i was hopeful for the bolded part. Same sh#t different yearThere was nothing about this game that showed progress at any level of football. Losing and getting blown out are two different things. This is the same garbage we see every year under OB. Nothing changes. Make excuses all you want but this showing is exactly what one expects with OB at the helm. Unprepared and lethargic.
He’s always been a positive example of an offensive coach. Not sure How that’s even debatable. He’s one of the best offensive minds that has been in the nfl.Not disputing any of your points - but I find it funny that Kubiak is now the positive example of an offensive coach.
Look back a couple of years and read the forum. People wanted Kubiak gone for years. And we had great defenses during that time. People were slamming him for playing very conservative and for a lack of adjustments at half time. Didn't he give up playcalling for Kyle Shanahan and people were mad, when he was gone because they trusted Kyle and his creative plays way more than Kubiak? Again, I am not saying Kubiak wasn't a great offensive coach I am just saying a very local part of Texansfans were very upset with his offensive gameplans and playcalling week in and week out!He’s always been a positive example of an offensive coach. Not sure How that’s even debatable. He’s one of the best offensive minds that has been in the nfl.
True, but he also was far too conservative. Yes they bought a LT and invested heavily in the ol. The lack of development is why I have been calling for Devlin to be fired. As far as DW4 goes, defenses have figured him out. He hasn't adjusted. Scheme has nothing to do with missing your checkdown to your RB 3rds away from you. (Atleast twice) Mahomes makes those plays in his sleep. The problem isn't with DW4 missing.reads, it's that he's consistently missing the same reads. The other problem is he just got signed to a 160 mil contract and for this BOB will eventually get fired. At what point is it on the player to adjust and improve his game? Coaching can only do so much.He’s always been a positive example of an offensive coach. Not sure How that’s even debatable. He’s one of the best offensive minds that has been in the nfl.
I see you still on the same hot takes.Who played well.
Mahomes is generational, no way DW4 beats him. DC's have figured out DW4. The last 5 games weren't an abberation.
With that said, BOB sucked tonight and it was hard to figure out which one of them sucked worse.
Lots of people were impatient and did not understand that the nature of the WCO and the ZBS is like that.Look back a couple of years and read the forum. People wanted Kubiak gone for years. And we had great defenses during that time. People were slamming him for playing very conservative and for a lack of adjustments at half time. Didn't he give up playcalling for Kyle Shanahan and people were mad, when he was gone because they trusted Kyle and his creative plays way more than Kubiak? Again, I am not saying Kubiak wasn't a great offensive coach I am just saying a very local part of Texansfans were very upset with his offensive gameplans and playcalling week in and week out!
Yes, he needs to play more.Hall looked like their best dl tonight. He held his own.
The roster the GM builtThere was also reasons the Texans were 10 point dogs.
Pretty clear he was playing hurt. No explosion. Not the player that was sold to the fans.Cooks - 5 (1 in 2nd half)
And those fans were wrong about Kubiak being too conservative.Look back a couple of years and read the forum. People wanted Kubiak gone for years. And we had great defenses during that time. People were slamming him for playing very conservative and for a lack of adjustments at half time. Didn't he give up playcalling for Kyle Shanahan and people were mad, when he was gone because they trusted Kyle and his creative plays way more than Kubiak? Again, I am not saying Kubiak wasn't a great offensive coach I am just saying a very local part of Texansfans were very upset with his offensive gameplans and playcalling week in and week out!
He was downfield on Watson's iNT, either wide open or in one on one.Pretty clear he was playing hurt. No explosion. Not the player that was sold to the fans.
The OL didn’t give Watson time to throw. He was hit as he released the ball. Add another thing OB needs to be fired, for allowing Devlin to still be here.He was downfield on Watson's iNT, either wide open or in one on one.
I don't have the All-22 view so I can't tell for sure.
Yeah, we know, but it was the TE on that play that allowed (I think) Mathieu to come in.The OL didn’t give Watson time to throw. He was hit as he released the ball. Add another thing OB needs to be fired, for allowing Devlin to still be here.
Yeah...great plan there, Billdo. The new WR's must have thought the game was Saturday because they didn't show up for ****.And replaced him with three bench WRs
He didn't last time they metIf you don't think he would have made a difference... you're delusional.
He did the time before. Also, he played with busted ribs in the playoff game.He didn't last time they met
Duke got nicked up at some point.but duke was never there i wonder why saving it ????
Duke Johnson had a leg injury. David Johnson had his left wrist examined. I'll leave it to CnD for a detailed analysis.Duke got nicked up at some point.
Watson didn’t play a poor game. Can’t perform when your right guard is getting beat like a drum and the offensive line looks like skit. Can’t perform when your receivers can’t get open or schemed open. On two of the Chiefs touchdowns they were beautiful designed rub routes. Where the F is our rub routes?Yeah, we know, but it was the TE on that play that allowed (I think) Mathieu to come in.
Watson still played a poor game though.
The Texans did a better job executing screens last night. But besides the screens and the first TD drive, can anyone look at the play calling or WR routes and thought we are watching two high powered offenses?Watson did play a poor game. Can’t perform when your right guard is getting beat like a drum and the offensive line looks like skit. Can’t perform when your receivers can’t get open or schemed open. On two of the Chiefs touchdowns they were beautiful designed run routes. Where the F is our run routes?
I meant rub routes. Pat didn’t do anything special. The creativity and lack of true pressure allowed him to make very easy throws and reads. Now they looked to have a running game with a legit runningback.The Texans did a better job executing screens last night. But besides the screens and the first TD drive, can anyone look at the play calling or WR routes and thought we are watching two high powered offenses?
Also, with a rookie CB playing and getting safety help over the top, not one of the Texans WRs was able to win that matchup. They kept running go routes on a rainy night into Cover2. They were simply outplayed and out coached.
Too bad.Watson didn’t play a poor game. Can’t perform when your right guard is getting beat like a drum and the offensive line looks like skit. Can’t perform when your receivers can’t get open or schemed open. On two of the Chiefs touchdowns they were beautiful designed rub routes. Where the F is our rub routes?
Yeah I agree - I would have wanted Kubiak to be a little more aggressive sometimes, but overall I was fine with him. His team was missing a QB that could deliver in crunch time. Schaub was never that - he was an above avergae QB that couldn't elevate his game when it mattered the most.And those fans were wrong about Kubiak being too conservative.
Shananhan's Niners ran the ball twenty times more than they passed the ball last year.
Kubiak's team always pass the ball more, sometimes up to 50% more (see 2013).
IMHO, any RB playing with Watson will look better because the defense always key on him (the QB).Yeah...great plan there, Billdo. The new WR's must have thought the game was Saturday because they didn't show up for ****.
And yeah...David Johnson had a good game. I'm not thinking that Carlos Hyde couldn't have had a good game without costing draft picks and DeAndre Hopkins. Also...can David Johnson suit up and try to stop the run on defense?
God this team gives me reflux.
Wake and bake are greatFantastic game. This is going to be a good season. Dare I say AFCCG?
Watson is looking sharp. His decision making is on point. Release is quick.
Johnson&Johnson seem to be a formidable duo. David looks like he is going to be a great pick up with potential to match his past successes.
Offensive line has taken a step forward from last year. They looked solid tonight, providing ages of time for Watson to operate.
Our TE's and Receivers. WOW! I mean really...WOW! Speed and hands. All of them. Who's going to get the double without someone else getting the homerun!! Hopkins who??
Do we really even need to talk defense? My goodness. O'Brien knew what he was doing when he traded Clowney. And just like expected, losing Reader made little to no impact on our ability to stop the run at all. In fact, I think we improved. Our entire defense improved.
3 new coordinators. And all 3 where lights out amazing in their play calling. Sky is the limit with this bunch and I am so excited.
I am most proud of Bill O'Brien, the coach, the general manager, the brains behind the operation. Even with this well oiled juggernaut of a machine he placed on the field today, he still had the capacity for empathy and kindness by allowing the lowly Chiefs to win their season opener in their own stadium. Knowing how COVID19 has affected us all, that was a very humble gift to bestow upon Chiefs nation. Thank you Bill.
And thank you Houston Texans! Football is back in HOUSTON!!!
Wake and bake are great
You can’t expect any player to perform like Superman when your offensive line still can’t block or receivers who are speed demons can’t get open. Andy Reid scheme made it that much easier for Patrick. Go on that all 22 and look at the play designs on those touchdown passes in the red zone for the Chiefs. With all of that traffic in a small window space, that design made it easy pickings. That drag route by Hill in the red zone lol was easy pickings. That’s how you utilize your speed in tight quarters. We didn’t utilize none of our speed receivers like that. No crossing routes, no rub routes just no creativity at all.Too bad.
With that new contract, Watson needs to play closer to Superman.
He did fail to see a few open men that I recalled seeing.
That said, the scheme itself was never going to be good enough against top competition.
The D doesn't have enough talents and the O is usually dragged down by OB's ineptness.
I'm just trying to save steelb some keystrokes.You can’t expect any player to perform like Superman when your offensive line still can’t block or receivers who are speed demons can’t get open. Andy Reid scheme made it that much easier for Patrick. Go on that all 22 and look at the play designs on those touchdown passes in the red zone for the Chiefs. With all of that traffic in a small window space, that design made it easy pickings. That drag route by Hill in the red zone lol was easy pickings. That’s how you utilize your speed in tight quarters. We didn’t utilize none of our speed receivers like that. No crossing routes, no rub routes just no creativity at all.
A lot of us liked Kubiak but felt he picked the wrong GM in Rick Smith as you remember. I was firmly in that camp and felt that if we had a GM that was better at building a team, we would have really had something. Too many of those years we would go in with a huge gaping wound in 1-2 position groups that always prevented us from going all the way.He’s always been a positive example of an offensive coach. Not sure How that’s even debatable. He’s one of the best offensive minds that has been in the nfl.
Lol good luck with that. Steel is going to do steel.I'm just trying to save steelb some keystrokes.
Going to study the game now.
Our number one receiver is Fuller and he had 100+ yards. Everything else I agree with.This is what I am thinking this morning regarding last night.
Offense is always going to be behind a bit with lack of snaps. I think you are going to find that alot of offenses this weekend are going to be sluggish. David Johnson looked like the best back we’ve had since Foster, so I will be very interested to see if he can stay healthy. Our run game is going to be quite good it seems to me and we will be able to control games with it once we get our passing game better in sync. Our #1 receiver was not 100% and seemed to me to not play much of the second half of the game. I think they are going to get this offense to be pretty good this year, but it’s going to require Cooks to be there. His ability to get separation and keep the chains moving is going to be key for this offense.
The defense looks really bad in the secondary. I just don’t know what they expected with these CBs. Roby is an average starter and he’s far and away the best CB on the team. Looking at our salary cap situation for next year, we are going to have to choose between re-signing Fuller and signing another corner. This is a convo for another time, but the cap situation next year for the Texans is going to be very tight.
Having said all that, this was the Chiefs who IMO are the best team in football, maybe since that Pats team that almost went undefeated. I don’t know that there is a team, especially in the AFC, that is going to be favored against them in any game this year.
"I was responding to your comment" that he wouldn't have made a difference. If he had been there the team would have been "different". You see what happens when you take things too literal on a message board?He didn't last time they met