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Texans interested in Stanford HC David Shaw

Rey said:
Also heard thst the FO felt the coaches had too much say in the draft process.

And a rumor ive heard is that smith would want to cut a player or make a move and kubiak would nix it.

So to me sounds two fold - gm wanted more control and felt the actual coaching was lacking.
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The draft process is a system that was set up and agreed to 8 years ago by McNair and Kubiak. Only now it has become a problem? A problem that needed to be discussed in the National Media? This very much sounds like a CYA on drafting Sam Montgomery and why most every NFL team had Sam off their draft board and the Texans didn't. That's the BIG FUBAR here.

Smith would be responsible for knowing any off field problems with Montgomery. Did Smith sound the alarm on Sam and was overridden or is Smith doing the CYA because he didn't know?

Smith when hired was the least knowledgeable most inexperienced GM in the NFL. Smith's training and education in player personnel was pretty much limited to Mike Shanahan. Smith was part of the good old boy network. The "Not What You Know but Who You Know", business plan.
 
DAVID SHAW
David Shaw will continue to be one of the hot names in the world of coaching and Bob McNair and the Houston Texans would be fools not to look into Shaw. The problem for Houston is that league sources have told me that Shaw shut down any and all advances last offseason and doesn't have any interest in going to the NFL just yet.

If the Texans were able to get Shaw to consider an NFL job, he would bring his style of football which is very NFL-centric in that he preaches tackling and power running. Shaw has coached under Jon Gruden in Oakland, Brian Billick in Baltimore and Jim Harbaugh at Stanford. Shaw is 41 years old and definitely has a "head coaching presence" to his demeanor. It would be interesting to see if Shaw would consider the Texas job or Texans job to be the better position if he were to consider leaving Stanford.
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Playoffs said:
LZ on Shaw...
I don't believe he's an option. Has no interest in leaving Stanford at this time.
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Ktexan68 said:
Doesn't sound good for Shaw:

Texans candidate watch: David Shaw: Anyone who follows college football has heard that "I'm not leavin... http://es.pn/JeggJY #Texans
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When John McClain of the Houston Chronicle wrote that Stanford coach David Shaw would be a candidate for the Texans, Jon Wilner, who covers Stanford for the San Jose Mercury News, tweeted: "Saw news reports that Stanford HC David Shaw is on Texans' short list: No chance. 1 minute spent on Shaw is 1 minute wasted."

Shaw might leave Stanford one day, but those who cover him don't see that happening now.

Here's why: Unlike his predecessor, Jim Harbaugh, Shaw went to Stanford and wants to win a national title there. Given the teams he's fielded, it's not unreasonable to think he could do it, especially with a four-team playoff. He wants to raise his kids in Palo Alto. And the total power he has at Stanford is something he absolutely would not get in the NFL, which he rebuffed last year.
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This is what I've been reading for a week now. But who knows; we'll likely hear something definite by Jan 10; possibly as early as Jan 3.
 
Number19 said:
This is what I've been reading for a week now. But who knows; we'll likely hear something definite by Jan 10; possibly as early as Jan 3.
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houstonhurricane said:
That stinks - really high on Shaw.
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To early to fret, it sounds like it could be wishful thinking and hoping from this local beat writer. Two things, the money will be substantially more, these guys egos usually aspire to the highest calling and that is the NFL. I think an NFL team offering Shaw full control of the roster could be a bigger problem for the Texans. And if he stays at Stanford that could also mean that he didn't get the offer he wanted besides just wanting to stay at Stanford.
 
Exascor said:
I agree Herv. MSR. Some people are saying we have NO talent and we need a complete rebuild. We do have holes to fill. QB being the big one. The problem is we have lost the depth over the past few years. Each year we've lost a few NFL level players and replaced them with much, much less talented players. The Texans 2010, 11, 12 & 13 drafts were terribly weak. 2013 in particular was a train wreck. We need a good draft or 2 to get some depth back.

Add a good QB and this team improves greatly. Plug another hole or 2 and this team improves to potential playoff level 8+ wins. Dash in better coaching and a little luck and you have a good chance at rebounding. It's not like the Colts, Titans and Jags are great teams. This division is weak.
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The Texans are the best 2-11 team in the league. Yipeee!!!!!

The hole they have from players moving on weren't replaced. How do you replace those players? By doing the hard work, studying film and finding under the radar in the draft Juluis Thomas/Chris Jones/Sam Shields etc.... You cant lose 3-4 players every yr and your best draft pick be Mercilus.

For instance Hopkins was a good draft pick. But would you rather have Kiko Alonso in the 1st and Kenny stills in the 5th? The Texans need to figure this out this yr.

That's why since there's no Luck/RG3 in this yrs draft, they need to draft Clowney/Barr etc... and get a QB in the 2-3rd rd if you have to take one in this yrs draft. Personally I would load up on picks and trade up for Winston/Petty in 2015. After I used the 2014 draft to fill all of the holes that currently exist.

This draft is 4 rds deep and very talented. If at all possible this is the draft to trade down and load up on 2014/2015 1st is a must in any trade so they can get the QB in the better QB class. The worst thing Rick can do is reach for a QB at 1-1.

Do I have any faith in Rick Smith being able to accomplish any of this? NO, there's no chance Shaw would come to the Texans to work under Rick Smith. (That's laughable)

Which is why the Texans will continue to be all flash and no substance. But atleast BoB will still get his $$$$$.
 
Anyone who wants to raise his kids in the ****hole that is California is nobody I trust to be coach of the Houston Texans.
 
Texian said:
To early to fret, it sounds like it could be wishful thinking and hoping from this local beat writer. Two things, the money will be substantially more, these guys egos usually aspire to the highest calling and that is the NFL. I think an NFL team offering Shaw full control of the roster could be a bigger problem for the Texans. And if he stays at Stanford that could also mean that he didn't get the offer he wanted besides just wanting to stay at Stanford.
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It's not just Shaw, but his wife, also. It's said she really likes Palo Alto and wants to stay.
 
drs23 said:
I really like the sound of Shaw as the Texans HC but if he's that PWipped I must reconsider.
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It isn't just the wife. All of the Shaws (mom, dad, 2 siblings and their kids) are from California. Don't know if Shaw's wife is from CA but she went to Cal for her masters. They all live close to each other. Shaw's dad is an unofficial member of the Stanford coaching staff and regularly attends coaches' meetings and practices. Doesn't mean it can't happen but tougher sale than normal.
 
infantrycak said:
It isn't just the wife. All of the Shaws (mom, dad, 2 siblings and their kids) are from California. Don't know if Shaw's wife is from CA but she went to Cal for her masters. They all live close to each other. Shaw's dad is an unofficial member of the Stanford coaching staff and regularly attends coaches' meetings and practices. Doesn't mean it can't happen but tougher sale than normal.
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I think for quality of life , a big time college coach is the ticket . The NFL grind is a hard life .
 
I like Shaw the most out of all the potential college coaches, but its going to be a hard sell to pry a guy away from his alma matter coming off of 3 straight BCS bowls.
 
RT @agonzalezap: David Shaw says being mentioned for NFL jobs is "very flattering" but he's happy at Stanford and has no plans to leave.

Shaw was bothered by rumors he'd leave last yr. now "it's just a testament to being a really good college football program"

Shaw did say that when he started coaching, he had his sights on being an NFL head coach

Shaw: "if I'm going to start doing something, I'm going to see if I can be as good as I can be and go as high as I can go."

Shaw now says he's happy at Stanford. "No matter what I say, the rumors aren't going to stop," he said.
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#gostanford RT @agonzalezAP: @CoachDavidShaw being mentioned for NFL jobs is "very flattering" but he's happy at Stanford, no plans to leave
 
A couple of weeks ago I would've been upset and depressed by the above news. I have since resigned myself to thinking that if Shaw does in fact take a NFL HC job it will not be with the Texans. It will be with a team where he will have final say on the 53 man roster. Why? Because he will be able to command it. I have also resigned myself to the thought that Lovie Smith will be the next Texan HC because Lovie has already demonstrated he doesn't have to have the final say on the 53 man roster.
 
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