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cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
Agree.
I stated several months ago that this fan base was overrating the talent on this team.
Maybe not as suspect as I originally thought, due to apparent poor coaching, but overrated non the less.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
For years we the fans have argued amongst ourselves about who is calling the shots and who is responsible for a multitude of decisions over at Kirby drive. Most organizations have a clear power structure. How is it that the Texans are not a top-down organization? Because we went about the process backwards last time? Did we learn any lessons or does the Owner stroll out and name the starting QB and not once defer to his GM that seems to be neutered. Bob sitting there with his Son to one side and his powerless GM who apparently has no say in important football decisions on the other. Not real inspiring.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
I'd like to take a shot at this because generally we spend some time on the same page where this team is concerned.
The Talent....
QB.
We need one. Up until this season we had Schaub and I have never seen anything that would indicate that he wasn't exactly what our HC wanted. Gary went and got him, Gary placed a lot of faith in him, and Gary stuck with him too long and then tried to bring him back. We have a pair of fairly ordinary backups who have flashed at times but clearly aren't ready (or most likely capable) to be starters. That's what draft picks are for and we have a deep bunch of QB prospects to pick from. If we don't want a rookie QB and prefer to find a FA then we're going to be able to. Schaub is not coming back.
RB.
Arian Foster was hurt. Injuries happen and you can't point to one and say we didn't find any talent at RB. Ben Tate has played pretty well all things considered. He isn't the Zone back that Foster is but he's talented. Cierre Wood was talented and I think actually a better fit than Tate for what we were doing. We'll never know now (sadly) but that isn't a matter of lack of talent. Dennis Johnson has played well for us this year and didn't even make the team. No one has said anything about Arian Foster not being able to come back from this. Neither is anyone stupid enough to say "Hey, lets just assume that Arian will be back to normal. Sound good?" If we weren't going to try and sign Ben Tate before then maybe we make that move and try to do it now.... or maybe we don't. My point is that we've had talented running backs and we have found them in the UDFA pile often as well. We'll find more RB's I haven't a doubt in my mind about that.
OL.
Yes, we've got needs here. No doubt about it we've got needs. We have Duane Brown who will keep on trucking at LT, Chris Myers who might be able to put a little bit of weight on (maybe it's time to join Cushing and Watt in the weight room Chris) and a bunch of guys who are all prospects. I'd be looking for the best value FA guard around and hoping that one of the backups breaks out (Brooks, it's time to step it up.... Jones you might be our starting C next year). I'd draft Jake Matthews to be my RT and stick Quessenberry next to him (hopefully). I don't count on Brennan Williams at all but if he does return and can play then we're looking better already. One good FA and a 3rd round draft pick added to the mix and we'll be fine. There's talent here. It's not like we're talentless. If we could have simply figured out what the Texans weird fascination with Derrick Newton was and put an end to it then we'd have been in better shape all year long. Newton stinks as a RT but does he have any potential at RG? There is talent here I think. What's been missing is sensible decisions from the coaching staff. You put your best linemen out there and don't hold one back because you don't have a backup for another one. Harris should have been starting at RT all year. Newton should have had to beat him out of that job.
WR/TE
Plenty of talent here. AJ, Hopkins, and Posey are all fine WR's. Keyshawn Martin is a bit of a mess I admit but he should be really the 4th guy and how many teams have good WR's 4 deep much less 5? Posey is coming off of that injury and I think will have his turnaround season next year. He's run in the high 4.3's before and I think by and large the Texans just haven't used the talent they had at WR. Draft another one if you need to. Sign an UDFA if you like. Lestar Jean probably can go and it shouldn't be hard to replace. Again, I see talent here. Wasted talent but definitely talent.
DL and LB (Because they're tied together at the hip for us)
Obviously Watt is Watt. Antonio Smith has been a contributor. Actually in the long, ugly history of Texans FA acquisitions he's been a real star but assume that he restructures and that's 2-3 of your starting positions. We need a NT. We've needed one for years and passed up plenty of opportunities to get one through the draft or free agency. We just don't seem to have placed a very high priority on it. We need some talent here. Are we going to be playing a 3-4 or 4-3 though? That's a big question because the talent shortage at DL is tied to the talent shortage at LB. Where do we go get help?
I think Mitchell is out of place and is better suited to the 4-3 but I wouldn't call him talentless. He's better than that. He's not a NT but playing the position anyway. Maybe he could move over into the DE spot as a rotation guy if we get a real NT, or maybe we let him go and find someone better suited to the 3-4. I think guys like Jamison and Crick are indeed JAG's right now but I'm not convinced we've gotten everything we could out of Crick. You can replace them easily regardless and start over with more rookies.
Having said that LB isn't as rough as you're making it seem. Cushing yes, obviously he's the real thing and Doc says he's going to be back and playing at a high level despite the injury (or should be) but then there's Mercilus and Reed who are both talented players. Reed's being used poorly by Wade and his numbers reflect that and Mercilus is a second year guy who hasn't quite taken the leap. I think Reed belongs on the inside and Mercilus will continue to get better. We need depth here and I think the fact that Mays can come in and be such a contributor shows that we're closer to the old days of Zach Diles being a starter than we'd like to be. Barwin was a loss. DeMeco was a loss. We lost talent there but if we admit that then didn't we also originally find talent there? We need to find some more talent but the cupboard isn't bare.
DB
Jonathan Joseph is basically the same guy he always has been. We're just not on the QB two seconds after the ball is snapped like we were the year he looked fantastic. As the pass rush has declined so has JJo. Fix the pass rush and the old JJo will come back. We wanted to think we got a Revis/Asomough at a bargain price but we didn't. We got a good starter who isn't a shutdown corner. No big deal, most teams are in a never-ending quest for one just like us.
Kareem is a problem. he's a bad CB and only looked better because of that same vicious Wade-Phillips-Year-One pass rush that JJo benefitted from. We need CB's starting with Kareem who was a bad choice and who at best should be playing where McCain is. We probably need 2 more CB's to a) push Kareem down the depth chart, and b) send McCain home. Manning is also a good DB and a fine S. We should have kept Glover Quinn (More talent out the door) and now we need to find his replacement. Swearinger doesn't look like he's got the head for NFL ball but he might still come around. A lot of rookies look bad in their first year and I'm not ready to give up on him. We need to find some guys to push Keo back to the bench and pair with Manning if Swearinger doesn't step up.
K/P
Kickers are easy to find. Our punter is as good as they come.
Sure we have holes. Everyone has holes. We have more on the D side than the O I think and we've got some talent that hasn't been put to good use. I think that the Texans have more talent than many teams that just hit 2-11 and fired their head coach and I think coaching candidates will understand that and realize that this team is ripe for a fairly quick turnaround. Maybe not as fast as McNair would like but we're hardly in the kind of condition that we were following Capers 2-14 campaign.
I hope he does get an interview. Right now, I have no preference for who our next HC should be. I only have one preference for who it shouldn't be. His name rhymes with Wade Phillips.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
I watched that live and I was a little confused when he did that. He specifically sidestepped a question to go out and talk about coaches who can't separate themselves from the players. I think he's fine with a coach who used to be a player as long as that coach is able to make the hard decisions.
I think McNair was going after Kubiak for sticking with Schaub too long and possibly some other projects (like Newton) and possibly older players.
I was shocked when he did that. It's just adding coaching points for the next time we play them. He didn't need to do that.
BUT!
It shows how he honestly feels, I think. And I think it showed his frustration with losing games he didn't think we should be losing.
I think McNair has been trying hard to stay hands-off but I think he's been involved. I think he's seen Kubiak make decisions that have failed and possibly gone against Smith's suggestions.
McNair knows infinitely more about which person in the FO suggested which player be drafted or signed than we do. It may be that Rick was giving good advice that Kubiak and the rest of the staff was ignoring. I don't know.
I suspect Sam Montgomery was more of a Wade choice than a Smith choice.
I want this team to rebound quickly and be back in the playoff hunt next year with the right coach and the right draft.
But I have a feeling there are too many things that can possibly go wrong and ruin that scenario. I'm sure at least one of them will go wrong.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Exactly. Very similar to something I posted a couple of days ago.
Exascor
Veteran
Sorry DB, but I just don't agree that this is pressure for a new coach. If a coach doesn't have the confidence that he can get this team into playoff "contention" then please don't hire them. McNair didn't say "I expect this team to get to the playoffs next season."Bob McNair said:
I agree with the top down structure being best. The problem is, we just don't know for sure what McNair thinks of Smith. Maybe he's evaluating him still. IMO, by taking charge of the presser, McNair actually showed that might be the case. It's still logical that he show Smith respect by having him at the presser because he may be here next season. The other thing that could be likely is a coach/GM team (yeah might suck) coming in again. What if McNair really wants a specific coach and the rest of the options he sees as equal or downgrades from Kubiak? What if that coach says he wants control of personnel or wants to bring in a different GM? Happens so maybe he's keeping the door open.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
I don't remember a lot of the detail of mid-season firing press conferences, do you? McNair was being repeatedly asked why now.
I think that model can still work but it may not even be the majority any more and there are successful programs that do not follow it. Think of basically every coaching candidate with stroke and they are said to want control.
Exascor
Veteran
I agree Herv. MSR. Some people are saying we have NO talent and we need a complete rebuild. We do have holes to fill. QB being the big one. The problem is we have lost the depth over the past few years. Each year we've lost a few NFL level players and replaced them with much, much less talented players. The Texans 2010, 11, 12 & 13 drafts were terribly weak. 2013 in particular was a train wreck. We need a good draft or 2 to get some depth back.
Add a good QB and this team improves greatly. Plug another hole or 2 and this team improves to potential playoff level 8+ wins. Dash in better coaching and a little luck and you have a good chance at rebounding. It's not like the Colts, Titans and Jags are great teams. This division is weak.
This team is experiencing an on-going 11 game losing streak.
Do you honestly think it was only coaching???
Are you prepared that it might actually be a talent problem, as well?
If your expectation is to be a "playoff contention" next season, then prepared to be disappointed, as well. I'm not saying that it cannot happen, but just be real about it. No matter who they have at QB, it will be a challenge. We are not getting a HoF caliber QB to just step in and play. It will either be a rookie, Keenum, or a retread like Cutler.
McNair's very specific words were that "this is not a long-term rebuilding process." That statement, along with mentioning "playoff contention next year" in the same breath is easily to understand he wants a HC that can come in here and win immediately. McNair believes this team is just a few holes shy of contending. I think it is more than that when they don't even have a starting caliber QB on the roster, much less a solid secondary, right o-line, LBs beyond an injured Cushing, etc.
I could happen (playoffs), but it could just as easily be a 6-10 season in 2014, as well.
I'm pragmatic, not idealistic, so you can save your koolaide for other fans. I will not be disappointed in 2014 regardless of what happens simply because I do not set myself up for it (like I did this year).
I'm not a big fan of mid-season firings. I understand why McNair felt he had to do it...I guess...but not a fan of two firings: right after a playoff season or firing during a season.
McNair could have just answered that he's tired of losing. Taking a shot at the talent of another team just seems goofy when his team is losing 11 in a row (and counting).
The Jaguars, for all the alleged lack of talent, has double the wins of the Texans. He's like DJ Swearinger of owners out there, talking trash from the bottom of the league's basement. (sarcasm on that one, btw)
utahmark
markbeth
Only 3 times have we not been in the game at the end. I think 8 times we lost by 7 points or less. That is something that can be fixed by coaching next year, at least I hope.
Blake
MMQB
With only knowing what I know as a fan, you could be looking at the 3rd head coach in Texans franchise history.
Shaw meets all the stipulations of McNair.
He has head coaching experience: Stanford HC since Jan 2011.
NFL experience: Multiple position coach.
Success: 2012 Fiesta Bowl (Loss), 2013 Rose Bowl (Won), 2014 Rose Bowl (Unknwon)
He has it all.
Shaw meets all the stipulations of McNair.
He has head coaching experience: Stanford HC since Jan 2011.
NFL experience: Multiple position coach.
Success: 2012 Fiesta Bowl (Loss), 2013 Rose Bowl (Won), 2014 Rose Bowl (Unknwon)
He has it all.
SchaubApologist
Waterboy
haha, preach on!!!
on the contrary, I agree with bob that this job is not a "complete rebuild". If we draft our franchise qb 1.1 (bridgewater), get a very good RT at 2.1, and then find a few starters the rest of the draft... I think in the weak AFC South we can compete as early as next season. clearly, the texans need to cut the kubiak pet projects (schaub, daniels, foster) and free up cap space for 2015. obviously i am assuming that we hire a good HC, and shaw is #1 on my list.
Vance87
All Pro
But will he want to, that's the question.
Number19
Hall of Fame
"The future of offensive football doesnt have to be no-huddle, and it doesnt have to be breakneck...(against Army) Stanford, ran everything. Such as:
A pro style shotgun, with one back, one tight end and three wideouts.
A pro style I, with two backs, two wideouts and a tight end.
An empty-backfield shotgun, with four wides and a tight end.
A pistol (the shorter version of the shotgun) with sidecar backs on either side of quarterback Kevin Hogan and three wides.
A pistol, with one back, two wides, and a tight end and slot tight end next to each other.
A heavy formation, with three tight ends and two backs.
The Weird Wildcat (my words, not Shaws): a back taking the snap, three tight ends, and a guard, 316-pound Joshua Garnett, as another (slot) tight end to demolish anything in his path.
A classic old-time power I, with three backs and two tight ends. (Get the point? David Shaw loves the tight end.)
And something I dont know what to call: Before the snap, the tackle, tight end and slot tight end shifted to the right (sort of what Chip Kelly did at Washington in Week 1) to create a huge gap outside the guard.
Im going to quote my old boss, Jon Gruden, Shaw said...He would say it every single day: What you want to do on offense is present the illusion of sophistication but all in all remain very simple and basic. So very often well throw a whole bunch of different stuff at them, but were going to run a basic day-one installation play. Something weve run thousands of times. Something very, very simple. But for the defense, it looks very complicated. So we want to present these illusions, then run a regular play that we just want to execute right...."
http://mmqb.si.com/2013/09/17/stanford-cardinal-peter-king/
bhsman
Rookie
Interesting article found here, which talks about Stanford's red-zone woes when on the road. Initial conclusion: Shaw's system makes Hogan look a lot better than he is. That's not to discredit the system, only that people should come down from their praise of Hogan, and instead think about what Shaw could do with a better passing QB like Bridgewater or (if we went the Clowney/later round QB route) Mettenberger.
I think the problem with this team was absolutely coaching.
That said, im worried about mcnair picking the next guy. Im worried that I dint know who is actually in charge of football stuff.
You cant have accountability if the responsibilities are murky. I don't know for sure...maybe they have it all figured out.
Just seems like a strange dynamic.
That said, im worried about mcnair picking the next guy. Im worried that I dint know who is actually in charge of football stuff.
You cant have accountability if the responsibilities are murky. I don't know for sure...maybe they have it all figured out.
Just seems like a strange dynamic.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
I don't mind a team whose operations are a black box to me... as long as they've all got it figured out and working smoothly back behind the curtain. It's sounding like they're not going to be doing things now like they were doing things a week or two ago.
But I agree with you. I've said it before... I'm worried about McNair and Smith picking the right guy for this job. If they do it, then I'm going to count that as just getting lucky.
bhsman
Rookie
Much like Machiavelli taught about dealing with rebellious towns, you should act in a way as to leave them satisfied yet stupified?
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Much like Machiavelli taught about dealing with rebellious towns, you should act in a way as to leave them satisfied yet stupified?
I was thinking more about the Art of War's section on spies and figuring out who your opponent's spies are so you can feed them a mix of truth and lies to confound them and put them into an unfavorable position.
But Machiavelli will do, too.
I tend to agree. But I think Uncle Bob fired the wrong coach.
...or at least he shouldn't have stopped with Gary and Joe. We had the lead in many of those games; what happened to the defense.
I wanna see fresh thinking on both sides of the ball.
drs23
Veteran
No you don't. You revel in it.
drs23
Veteran
Thank you.
Exascor
Veteran
Not a koolaide drinker so I'll let others have it. hehe. Really though - I don't get too hyped or down. I try to look at things like this without emotion.
This 2013 Texans team has lost 8 games by 1 score or less. With nothing more than luck (no not Andrew) we could have 5-6 more wins and be in the playoff race right now. It's really not far fetched to think that doing nothing other than changing the coach OR the QB would have accomplished the same. This team was undisciplined (usually associated with coaching) and had the worst timed penalties I can ever remember seeing. The turnovers from the QB position aren't exactly unprecedented but there wasn't enough good plays from the QBs to balance them.
The 12-4 2012 Texans starters that are no longer on the roster:
Kevin Walter, Antoine Caldwell, Shaun Cody, Connor Barwin, Bradie James, Glover Quin & (if you want) James Casey. I'd argue that all positions have been replaced with at least equal talent except Quin. I sure don't think losing them had ANYTHING to do with the crash this season. We are losing 3 starters in 2014 to FA - Antonio Smith, Joe Mays & Wade Smith. I don't see anyone there that can't be replaced and there's a reasonable chance we could re-sign Antonio & Joe. Point is, the starters are there to be much better than 2 wins in 2014.
The talent issue is depth. We do lack depth. I've harped on that. Given the high draft picks, a good draft and some depth should be replaced. The rest depends on what starters are released and who is brought it in to fill the roster.
We need a QB and a coach. We whiff on either and it'll suck next year. We hit on both and the rest of the talent will normally improve automagically.
As for my expectations for 2014...I have none at this point. How can you? WAY too many things to come before we'll get a feel for what could happen. Coaches, systems, draft, FA, who is released, who stays... I will say that the 2014 schedule isn't exactly a murder's row. AFC North & NFC East + 2 last place AFC teams. The AFC South is weak - even the Colts. Not too many teams will have an easier shot to get back to a winning season.
TexanBacker93
Veteran
I've never seen or heard a word from Rick Smith that indicates that he threw the coaching staff under the bus. Did he sit with McNair to announce Kubiak's firing? Yeah. I think if given the option of being fired with the coach or keeping your job all of us would keep the job. The writing was on the wall. He didn't put it there.
The only thing that will keep a prospective coach from coming here is if the $$ doesn't meet their requirements. Of the teams with possible openings no team has as much talent. I know sentiment is out there that we have little talent, but back to back division titles says we have some.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Someone leaked that the FO was pissed off at the coaches because they felt the coaches weren't using the players correctly and not platooning guys they way they should have. There were some other rumors about dissension between the coaches and the FO.
Now.
Whether the "FO" was Smith or whether the "FO" was McNair could be debated, I think.
Amen!
Also heard thst the FO felt the coaches had too much say in the draft process.
And a rumor ive heard is that smith would want to cut a player or make a move and kubiak would nix it.
So to me sounds two fold - gm wanted more control and felt the actual coaching was lacking.
texanhead08
All Pro
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Well, I'd say Kubiak can be credited as far as the talent on this roster just as much as Smith can. It's been widely know that Kubiak plays a major role in the draft process and to some degree I think he possibly played a stronger role then Smith. I'm not sure about that, but they've all said that it's more of a group effort between him and Smith and even Mcnair to some degree.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Look, Rick Smith isn't going anywhere anytime soon and you can approach this incontrovertible fact in one of two ways. You can ***** and moan about him deserving to be run out of town or you can hope that the man is a better GM without Gary Kubiak in the building than he was with Gary Kubiak in the building. The Texans did that whole Coach-GM hiring thing backwards and it put Smith in a position where he was required to be Gary Kubiak's yes man. At the same time he was often praised for finding talent right off the street when we had guys go down. there is some evidence that the man can do the job.
What do you want to do? I'm hoping he's going to be better going forward.
Tried to rep this, but could not. Hilarious.
So Smith is accountable for how players are used?
BTW, I bet a prospective head coach would say whatever he needed to to get the job. He could turn SchYateNum" to a thousand Pro Bowls and Super Bowls.
i bet there hasn't been a coach hired in the last 40 years that said he couldn't coach one or more high profile positions to goodness if not not greatness. Hell, half of TT could call a better game than Kubiak or Phillips. That's proven by the very high numbers of posts calling plays on either side of the ball. It happens a lot.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Maybe half of TT thinks they can call a better game. It hasn't been proven by a single post prior to a play actually happening.
Saying they are going to run on 3rd and 9 60 times in a row doesn't mean you actually called the play when it finally happens. It just means you were persistent.
Dishman
Miss Ya Blue
That's right, Kubiak was one persistent (stubborn) head coach.
This is such a smoke screen statistic.
Do you know what it means? Absolutely nothing. It is merely a way to put sprinkles on a turd.
All that matters right now is this team is the worst in Texans history, even over the garbage 2005 team that was less talented. That team never lost 11 in a row (and counting).
Acting like close games equates to anything tangible is exactly what Belichick was referring to with his "stats are for losers, the final score is for winners" quote.
Margin of losing is nothing to bank on and provides me with zero comfort for this craptastic season.
Did you not read a word I wrote?
I do not have any expectations for 2014. That was my point that I will not be disappointed next year, simply because I do not expect a winning season, much less playoff contention, from a team with unknowns at head coach and QB.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Wow, totally disagree. I consider 11 in a row much less meaningful. I see nothing better about flipping the Titans win with the 1st Jags game. OTOH lots of times when you look at the clubs with big turnarounds in record you find teams who were in games but lost turning them to in games and win. It seems common sense. It is harder to make up a 20 ppg point differential than it is a 3 ppg one. Of course it should not be banked on.
And the Texans were 5-0 in games decided by 1 score last season. It comes around and goes around.
Exascor
Veteran
You completely ignored the point DB. Nobody is saying that this team is anything but a 2 win team. It sucks. I sure couldn't care less that the Texans "barely" lost games. The point is that even with all the crap that has happened to the Texans this season, you replace Schaub/Keenum with a top 5-10 QB or Kubiak with a really good HC and there's no way this team isn't in the playoff picture still.
I just think that McNair's presser is being over analyzed. He just fired a friend of 8 years. He believes in his team. I don't think an coaching candidate will be intimidated by anything he's said so far.
You = the generic you. Not DB. I'm not an eloquent writer but I read just fine thanks. =PDid you not read a word I wrote?
I do not have any expectations for 2014. That was my point that I will not be disappointed next year, simply because I do not expect a winning season, much less playoff contention, from a team with unknowns at head coach and QB.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
That's all well and good but I think it ignores the way a team's players are frequently picked with a certain coach's paradigm in mind.
If a good coach can come in and implement a system that largely uses the players that we have while also tweaking the things that need to be tweaked to get them back up to a playoff level, then yes. Wade came in and took a crappy defense, made a couple of tweaks, added a couple of players, and turned the whole thing around even without massively shaking up the roster. Andy Reid came in and with the addition of a veteran QB, turned that Chiefs team around (although it remains to be seen if this turn-around is sustainable.)
But lots of times, the coach+coordinators don't have the players they want to do the things they do and they can't make effective use of them. In that case, they have to tear things down before they build them back up.
If we go with a rookie QB, there's an even greater chance that we're going to take time to build things back up.
So it all comes down to the coach+coordinators chosen and how they're able to make use of what's available. We could be back in the playoffs next season, or we could be drafting in the top 5 again.
That's fine to disagree, but history will record the 11 losses, not how close they lost those games.
My point is that expecting this team to become a playoff contender in one season is hopeful optimism, but not necessarily based on being pragmatic with a new head coach, new OC, new QB, and who knows what other new positions and coaches.
The Andy Reid situation is an exception to the normal rule of seasonal turnaround. I think a lot of fans are setting themselves up for disappointment in 2014.
That's fine that y'all want to believe. I have no problem with how others perceive it. I'm just not going to jump in that bathtub full of koolaide right now. This team has some major issues, and that's not even arguable.
If it happens, I'll be waving my pom-poms with the rest of you. And I have no problem in admitting that I'm cynical and was not optimistic at this point in 2013.
I did not miss the point. You just used an "if" in your argument.
Well, IF we had Tom Brady...IF we had Bill Belichick...do you get my point about arguing "if"??
The point is that we did NOT have a top 5-10 QB or a really good HC in place of Kubiak.
And there is absolutely no guarantee that 2014 will definitely have a top 5-10 QB or a really good HC. That's my entire point. Nothing more, nothing less.
This will be a different team next year. You simply cannot act like the 2014 Texans will be exactly the same 2013 players except for "top 5-10 QB or a really good HC". There's going to be cuts, turnover, and some players just get old and lose skills.
He's the owner. He's the big boss that makes the decisions. His words are all we have to analyze with regards to anyone on the Texans with any decision making power.
It's not like we are analyzing John McClain, sports talk, Texans Talk, or some random blog.
We are talking about the owner's own words. What else do you prioritize over him?
I did not mean to sound harsh. I like your posts and my reply was stronger than intended. Main point is why ask about my expectations when I specifically said I have none. But that was the me DB, not the generic one.
Exascor
Veteran
Meh-I just can't wait until this season is over and we start seeing what the future may hold. I want to see improvement of the sacred 2 (HC/QB) so there's some shred of hope of not going through another 3-4 years of crap or mediocrity. Peace!
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
I am not expecting anything, just noting a belief the situation could call for even less optimism if they were getting blown out every game. I guess it depends on what is meant by playoff contender. This season should show that phrase is almost meaningless. Some folks are pumping Rex Ryan if he gets fired because his team is still in "playoff contention" at 6-7. The NFC East may have a 9-7 division winner this season. Pretty much until you have an 8th loss you could be argued to be in playoff contention. I don't think that kind of turnaround would be shocking. If McNair or anyone means KC turnaround to go back to 12-4, yeah that is koolaid.
Doesn't sound good for Shaw:
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