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Texans hire Bill O'Brien as HC

TEXANRED said:
I can't don anything other than stare at his chin. Is it another mouth? Blow hole? Does he have a pet squirrel that stores nuts in there for winter?

I'm frightened.
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What does this do for you?
 
Big Lou said:
I stick with my comment from yesterday, this has been done for a while know. News is bubbling:


http://theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/39722/Bill-O-Brien-reportedly-could-be-Texans-next-coach-within-24-hours/Default.aspx
Texans can’t afford to wait on Whisenhunt because O’Brien is such a hot prospect.
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Just curious.... have we heard that anyone else is interested in interviewing O'Brien? The Browns have said not interested & I'd imagine Tampa is going to steer away from a college coach... & probably away from "old school" as well.

Has the Lions or 'skins suggested they are interested? Or is this just media hype?
 
thunderkyss said:
Just curious.... have we heard that anyone else is interested in interviewing O'Brien? The Browns have said not interested & I'd imagine Tampa is going to steer away from a college coach... & probably away from "old school" as well.

Has the Lions or 'skins suggested they are interested? Or is this just media hype?
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He interviewed for 3 or 4 spots last season. Rumor he turned down the Eagles.
 
thunderkyss said:
Just curious.... have we heard that anyone else is interested in interviewing O'Brien?
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He talked & walked from Browns/Eagles and declined to talk to Cards/Chargers last year.

Other teams aren't wasting their time on a guy who's agreed in principle with another team.
 
thunderkyss said:
Just curious.... have we heard that anyone else is interested in interviewing O'Brien? The Browns have said not interested & I'd imagine Tampa is going to steer away from a college coach... & probably away from "old school" as well.

Has the Lions or 'skins suggested they are interested? Or is this just media hype?
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I haven't heard anything solid from anywhere else. The FANS are interested in him in Minnesota and Detroit but I haven't heard of any FO's being interested, yet.
 
Playoffs said:
Everybody's after Bill O'Brien, but the perfect place for him is in Detroit


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Meh...... I think O'Brien is the kind of guy that will want to bring in his own QB & not be saddled with a project. As enticing as Stafford is, he'll have his pick of a class with 3 or 4 Staffords if he comes to Houston.

While we don't have Megatron, we're pretty close to having everything else Tom Brady & Joe Flacco had in their early years. Andre & DeAndre & Posey. Arian. 3/5ths & a half of an OL...... Jj Watt, Brian Cushing & a relatively young talented defensive backfield.

I do like Detroit. I do believe they're a very talented underachieving team. Whoever goes there will be set up to win immediately. But a better opportunity than what we've got here in Houston?

& that's a reporter saying O'Brien is in demand.... most likely based on last year. So far this year, it's us & us competing for his services.
 
thunderkyss said:
Meh...... I think O'Brien is the kind of guy that will want to bring in his own QB & not be saddled with a project. As enticing as Stafford is, he'll have his pick of a class with 3 or 4 Staffords if he comes to Houston.

While we don't have Megatron, we're pretty close to having everything else Tom Brady & Joe Flacco had in their early years. Andre & DeAndre & Posey. Arian. 3/5ths & a half of an OL...... Jj Watt, Brian Cushing & a relatively young talented defensive backfield.

I do like Detroit. I do believe they're a very talented underachieving team. Whoever goes there will be set up to win immediately. But a better opportunity than what we've got here in Houston?

& that's a reporter saying O'Brien is in demand.... most likely based on last year. So far this year, it's us & us competing for his services.
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Yep. Detroit is more of a Ken Whisenhunt gig. Whisenhunt clearly needs a QB in place in order to make an impact.

Also, a side note: the writer, Mike Rosenberg, spent many years working in Detroit, so he may have bias.


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Detroit really has obvious advantages in only 2 area. QB and D-Line. Outside of that I'd say in every other area we either have the advantage of we're even (if healthy). If it comes down to us and them then it would be an interesting choice for him to make. Both teams can be playoff teams next year some adjustments. Probably a bigger if from our end, but if Teddy B ends up being a gamer then this may be the better long term option.
 
I'm hesitant with the whole Belichick Tree thing but the stuff in this thread a few pages back about his philosophies and the way he does things for gameplanning and such sound pretty damn good to me.
 
We'll see how he does...

But I think the Vikings are more on target with their interest in DCs Quinn (Seattle) and Bowles (Arizona), and OC Bevell (Seattle).

With QB being the Texans' No. 1 need, Bevell should have been on Boardroom Bob's short list.
 
Change the player photo to Bridgewater and you'll have it right.

No way O'Brien geehaws with Manziel unless, of course, McNair dictates that Manziel be taken over Bridgewater.
 
Texn4life said:
Detroit really has obvious advantages in only 2 area. QB and D-Line. Outside of that I'd say in every other area we either have the advantage of we're even (if healthy). If it comes down to us and them then it would be an interesting choice for him to make. Both teams can be playoff teams next year some adjustments. Probably a bigger if from our end, but if Teddy B ends up being a gamer then this may be the better long term option.
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Calvin Johnson is a pretty good WR.
 
Well, so is Andre Johnson.

Both are incredible players. Probably the two best WRs I've ever seen. Rice obviously has all the accolades and is the best overall, but I think as far as ability outside of circumstances, and just WRs as WRs....I'm pretty sure Calvin and Andre are the two best I've seen.
 
Tolar's Ghost said:
We'll see how he does...

But I think the Vikings are more on target with their interest in DCs Quinn (Seattle) and Bowles (Arizona), and OC Bevell (Seattle).

With QB being the Texans' No. 1 need, Bevell should have been on Boardroom Bob's short list.
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These are the 2 coordinators I brought up along with Ray Horton that I thought the Texans should interview. Not too high on Bevell. All 3 have done outstanding jobs. It seems like McNair is way out of character with this single minded pursuit of O'Brien. It's like this decision to pursue O'Brien was made back when he was deciding to fire Kubiak . I believe the consultant must have told McNair that O'Brien is your man and that if you want him you have to get the jump on signing him because he will be highly sought after.
 
bckey said:
It's like this decision to pursue O'Brien was made back when he was deciding to fire Kubiak . I believe the consultant must have told McNair that O'Brien is your man and that if you want him you have to get the jump on signing him because he will be highly sought after.
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Wasn't this how it went with Kubiak too, when Dan Reeves was the consultant? Pretext of interviewing other candidates while the primary guy never really was in doubt?

This seems more familiar to me than it does out of character. Not saying it is good or bad.

Regardless of what I think of the candidate, it is nice to see Big Enos and Little Enos in such hot pursuit. If they don't get their guy it won't be for a lack of decisiveness or because they fiddled around too long.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
I'm hesitant with the whole Belichick Tree thing but the stuff in this thread a few pages back about his philosophies and the way he does things for gameplanning and such sound pretty damn good to me.
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Only because it "works"

Frank Bush had a similar defensive philosophy & we hated it. Just like we have to have a core for the team, something to build on, the offense & defense needs to have a philosophy. Something that keeps them grounded, a common reference.
 
thunderkyss said:
Only because it "works"

Frank Bush had a similar defensive philosophy & we hated it. Just like we have to have a core for the team, something to build on, the offense & defense needs to have a philosophy. Something that keeps them grounded, a common reference.
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It wasn't Frank Bush's philosophy that was the problem, it was player selection and coaching that led to poor implementation.

Read & react isn't a problem in itself, but you sure as hell better let the players know their reads inside out and how to react in each situation. It isn't the philosophy that failed, it was the hesitancy the players had thinking through their responsibilities.

I actually think having a D that is easy for the O to decipher has held us back just as much this season, it comes down to which unit hesitates more in a given situation as to whether or not you are put in the best situation to win your matchup.
 
bckey said:
These are the 2 coordinators I brought up along with Ray Horton that I thought the Texans should interview. Not too high on Bevell. All 3 have done outstanding jobs. It seems like McNair is way out of character with this single minded pursuit of O'Brien. It's like this decision to pursue O'Brien was made back when he was deciding to fire Kubiak . I believe the consultant must have told McNair that O'Brien is your man and that if you want him you have to get the jump on signing him because he will be highly sought after.
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I don't think these interviews are as important as we think they are. These guys know who they're looking at before they sit down for the face to face. They didn't need an "interview" to decide they didn't want Wade, or to find out how qualified Lovie Smith is.

Surely they made up their minds before any of them walked in the door & it was more of an attempt to sell Houston to O'Brien than anything.

I wouldn't have done it any different. I'd have my list, I'd have it prioritized from most desirable to least desirable. Lovie & Wade would have had to blown my mind to get the job. O'Brien would have had to put his foot in his mouth not to get the job. He wouldn't have left Houston without a contract. Interviewing Wisenhunt would have been a waste of time.

Unless, Wisenhunt was the primary choice, which is possible. Then I'd have been talking with Wisenhunt's agent, find out how interested he is in coming to Houston as the HC, what kind of compensation he's looking for. If it were apparent that we could land him, then I'd have put an extension on my plans to hire my HC.

If we're too far away on terms, if his agent doesn't want to commit... then I'd move on to my second choice.
 
bckey said:
?..It seems like McNair is way out of character with this single minded pursuit of O'Brien. It's like this decision to pursue O'Brien was made back when he was deciding to fire Kubiak . I believe the consultant must have told McNair that O'Brien is your man and that if you want him you have to get the jump on signing him because he will be highly sought after.
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I think Robert Kraft was the birdy who whispered O'Brien in Mr. McNair's ear. I also think Kraft told O'Brien that McNair is the guy you want to work for. O'Brien was also a sought after commodity around the league. I think he regretted not jumping back to the NFL last year and blamed his prior agent for that.

The consultants seem to have some reservations about O'Brien. Lovie and Wisenhunt are "safer" choices, both with prior HC experience. But McNair must have been blown away.
 
Playoffs said:
I think Robert Kraft was the birdy who whispered O'Brien in Mr. McNair's ear. I also think Kraft told O'Brien that McNair is the guy you want to work for. O'Brien was also a sought after commodity around the league. I think he regretted not jumping back to the NFL last year and blamed his prior agent for that.

The consultants seem to have some reservations about O'Brien. Lovie and Wisenhunt are "safer" choices, both with prior HC experience. But McNair must have been blown away.
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I have been thinking this exact same thing and once this process is all over I hope we get some insight about their reasoning. If we do I would be surprised if Robert Kraft's name is not brought up by both of them.
 
Playoffs said:
I think Robert Kraft was the birdy who whispered O'Brien in Mr. McNair's ear. I also think Kraft told O'Brien that McNair is the guy you want to work for. O'Brien was also a sought after commodity around the league. I think he regretted not jumping back to the NFL last year and blamed his prior agent for that.

The consultants seem to have some reservations about O'Brien. Lovie and Wisenhunt are "safer" choices, both with prior HC experience. But McNair must have been blown away.
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Hopefully, one day, Bob McNair will figure out that all of Bob Kraft's free advice is NOT necessarily in the best interest of Bob McNair. Bob Kraft is the competition and it is in Kraft's best interest that the Houston Texans remain less competitive than the New England Patriots.....just sayin
 
Playoffs said:
I think Robert Kraft was the birdy who whispered O'Brien in Mr. McNair's ear. I also think Kraft told O'Brien that McNair is the guy you want to work for. O'Brien was also a sought after commodity around the league. I think he regretted not jumping back to the NFL last year and blamed his prior agent for that.

The consultants seem to have some reservations about O'Brien. Lovie and Wisenhunt are "safer" choices, both with prior HC experience. But McNair must have been blown away.
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Consultants wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't have "reservations" about any of the candidates. It's their job to be objective and present the pros and cons of each choice. Obie probably rustles some bustles and that's a reservation. And this is an organization that needs some bustles rustled, as folks are a little too comfortable and complacent of late.

"Why Kate, you're not wearin' a bustle. How lewd."
 
bckey said:
...I believe the consultant must have told McNair that O'Brien is your man and that if you want him you have to get the jump on signing him because he will be highly sought after.
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I'm wondering how sought-after O'Brien really is.

He looks the part of a football coach. But I think his resume is pretty thin. I mean, how much coaching does Tom Brady really need? Remove Brady from the Patriots and Belichick isn't the wizard everyone makes him out to be.

And as for Kraft giving McNair a good reference for O'Brien...anyone who keeps wearing those two-tone, circa-1998 dress shirts is suspect!
 
Good point, although with their offensive line at the time, Schaub could have been league MVP.

But I wasn't saying Belichick isn't a good coach. He is, and a very good one.

He just isn't the be-all and end-all of coaches. His sustained success at NE starts and ends with Brady (and the OL).

Let's see if he's still there to usher in the Mallett Era.
 
Tolar's Ghost said:
Good point, although with their offensive line at the time, Schaub could have been league MVP.

But I wasn't saying Belichick isn't a good coach. He is, and a very good one.

He just isn't the be-all and end-all of coaches. His sustained success at NE starts and ends with Brady (and the OL).

Let's see if he's still there to usher in the Mallett Era.
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This is a complaint with most NE coordinators (both offensive and defensive) and it's pretty much played out like this with most of those coordinators becoming head coaches. The one thing that O'Brien does have to his name is that during his years, the NE offense introduced a lot of things into the NFL that had not been used that much (A lot of no-huddle stuff that Kelly was doing in the NCAA was brought over by the Patriots, Hernandez/Gronk 2 TE sets). I think this gives him a few notable things he did in NE that give him a little bit better than just "cog" status in that particular machine.
 
Playoffs said:
I think Robert Kraft was the birdy who whispered O'Brien in Mr. McNair's ear. I also think Kraft told O'Brien that McNair is the guy you want to work for. O'Brien was also a sought after commodity around the league. I think he regretted not jumping back to the NFL last year and blamed his prior agent for that.

The consultants seem to have some reservations about O'Brien. Lovie and Wisenhunt are "safer" choices, both with prior HC experience. But McNair must have been blown away.
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I'm mixed on O'Brien. In some ways, he's the anti-Kubiak. But in other ways, I'm not seeing anything on his resume that screams that he looks better before this gig than Kubiak did in 2005.

I'll be excited if/when they sign him, but I'd feel the same for most other coaches not named Wade, Norv, etc. I'm just ready to see forward momentum into 2014.

Texian said:
Hopefully, one day, Bob McNair will figure out that all of Bob Kraft's free advice is NOT necessarily in the best interest of Bob McNair. Bob Kraft is the competition and it is in Kraft's best interest that the Houston Texans remain less competitive than the New England Patriots.....just sayin
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I can't help but wonder the same thing. You'd think McNair would have learned after the proverbial "kick me" sign on his back in 2001 when owners 'highly recommended' Charley Casserly as a GM.

I can only hope that McNair and Kraft are solid enough friends that he can trust the opinion as solid insight instead of being played by a very competitive and successful owner like Robert Kraft. The stories I've read about Kraft's competitive nature at everything (including beating his own grandkids at board games) makes me a little wary as a fan. I respect that competitive nature, but I also understand how it can be a road that goes both ways.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
At some point when it became obvious that I was going to marry my wife, others dudes didn't bother to call her.
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That ring is not on O'Brien's finger, yet, my friend. ;)

NFL owners can be pretty ruthless, and the fact that we are closing on Tuesday and all we've heard are rumors of flirting makes me wonder what the heck is going down on Kirby.

The way the media was acting last weekend had a forgone conclusion that a deal would have been announced by today.
 
Double Barrel said:
That ring is not on O'Brien's finger, yet, my friend. ;)

NFL owners can be pretty ruthless, and the fact that we are closing on Tuesday and all we've heard are rumors of flirting makes me wonder what the heck is going down on Kirby.

The way the media was acting last weekend had a forgone conclusion that a deal would have been announced by today.
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Texans could very well be getting played again. He might want to take a shot at one of the other openings.

We'll find out when we hear about whoever it was he signed with. Then the Texans will move for Lovie but he'll be circling Tampa Bay....

Search your feelings. You know it to be true...
 
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