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I hope he doesn't put too much focus on that one game. There are 13 other games that are more important than that one for winning the division.
Plus, the two years in a row we won the division, we didn't win in Indy, soo...

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I hope he doesn't put too much focus on that one game. There are 13 other games that are more important than that one for winning the division.
I hope he doesn't put too much focus on that one game. There are 13 other games that are more important than that one for winning the division.
Don't follow your logic or your math here...
Isn't one of the main goals to beat your divisional opponents, at the least to hold the tie breakers? And don't they have 14 other games besides the colts? And what's more important games than beating division rivals?
Well it's not like we've never beat Indy. McClain was saying we're 0-13 at Indy. There are 15 other games (I fk'd that up, subtracted when I should have added) that are more important.
We've got three division rivals. We could go 14-2, win the division, beat our division rivals (two of them anyway), & still lose both games to Indy.
What's the point in beating Indy if we can't win but 8 or 9 games? They're going to win 10+
Yes it's possible, but not likely. The division still runs thru Indy and if you want to win you need to be able to beat Indy
Looking at my whole post, in context (with the corrected math).... the game in question was the one in Indy. I hope OB doesn't put too much focus on that one game when the other 15 are more important.
& in truth, that's just a tie breaker. We win more games than Indy, regardless how we do it (beating them helps a lot, I know) we win the division.
Besides, I think winning 10 games would be something short of a miracle in 2015. I'm hoping we win the right 9 & get into the play offs.
On this offseason
I look at it this way, free agency is a stage, of putting a team together. And that is not over yet. Then it's the draft and we are deep into our preparations for the draft, the first weekend in May. Then, one of the critical times for us is - post draft. With the college free agents. That's a stage.
On Clowney
I would say with JD, I think he is rehabbing very well. In fact last week he had a great week. He had his best week of rehab. As far as putting a time of when he will be back on the field with pads, I wouldn't be able to do that for you right now but I like the way he is progressing.
With JD, it is all going to come down to what he does when he puts the pads on. How he plays, can he stay out there, how he takes care of his body because there is no question about his ability to go out there and affect the game.
On Su'a-Filo
He is in there every day. He is working very hard, I've seen him every day that I've been in the office, he is in there rehabbing. He is working in the weight room. He is doing really well. He wants to be good. I really like where he is at right now.
On Nix
I have not seen Luis Nix, so I don't know. He is working out in Florida. I haven't seen him but that's their prerogative. Don't read anything into that.
More Nix - on what he wants to see:
I would say the ability to make it through a practice. That would be the biggest thing I'd need to see.
On Andre Johnson
I've said this all along. I've been fortunate to coach some of the best players at their position in this game. Whether it was Tom Brady, Randy Moss, Andre Johnson, Wes Welker, Logan Mankins, you know all these guys I've been involved with. JJ Watt obviously. I am just fortunate to have coached and had a chance to be with Andre for a year and like I said, he will go down as one of the best ever to play that position.
On DeAndre Hopkins
Basically last year was his best year. He had a really productive year. The thing that we really like about Hop and we want him to continue to work on is work ethic. He is a hungry player. He works every single day. He came into the spring a year ago, and learned the offense. He was kind of thinking out there and then all if a sudden he just took off so we just want to see him continue to progress. We think he can be, we think he is one of the best. We have a lot of confidence in him.
On Brian Hoyer
Brian Hoyer is a very competitive guy, personable guy, football means a lot to him. He is a great family guy, basically a new father. He has two young children. I've known him since his rookie year and he is a guy that perseveres. He has good leadership qualities. He has won games in this league, he is a good fit for what he we do and basically in a different way I would say about Ryan Mallett, id say similar things.
On Watt
I broke down every player. When I broke him down. Out of all the plays he played, I think he had 120 plays that he had either a TFL, a quarterback hit, sack, a batted ball, an interception, a fumble recovery, a caused fumble, on 120 plays he did one of those 7 things, and now he is out there in Wisconsin and he is trying to get better. And he knows that he has no limits.
11. Bill O'Brien, Houston Texans -- Surprised to see him this high? He did an amazing job in his first season in 2014. I thought the Texans would win two or three games. He got them to nine victories and nearly had them in the playoffs. He has the feel of a really good coach. I think he will be higher on this list in the coming years.
Ranking the NFL coaches 1-32: No easy choices, except at No. 1
Did Prisco just write something positive about the Texans?
Our coach has po--tential!Ranking the NFL coaches 1-32: No easy choices, except at No. 1
Did Prisco just write something positive about the Texans?
Our coach has po--tential!
I think that winning divisional games are equally important. It's all semantics, but if you HAD to pick one team as the one you most needed to beat, it would be Indy. Not only because it gets you wins, but it gets them losses
BINGO!!!
TO put that into perspective just look at it this way:
1. We were two games away from winning the division. Guess which two losses would've solidified the division outright?
2. The Colts went 11-5 but 6 of those wins were all in the division. Outside the division that team was merely 5-5. Meanwhile, The Texans were 4-2 and were 5-5 outside the division. Trust me, those games mean it.
http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-med...l-OBrien/05b7135a-6664-46a5-ac6f-534ed418ae2aWe're preparing for the draft, and we're in the process of doing a Staff Clinic, where each guy stands up and has a subject area that they cover. It's really been good. Been good that we have a lot of interaction with our staff. Good questions and answers... a lot of things getting done.
Last week at the NFL Annual Meetings, Bill O'Brien... pinpointed four areas where the Texans need to "get better".
1. Kickoff and punt returns: O'Brien mentioned special teams first, and focused primarily on the return game and covering returns. The Texans were 31st out of 32 teams last season in yards per punt return with 6.1. Only the Chicago Bears were worse.
They weren't much better on kickoff return average, picking up 21.1 yards per kickoff return. That was the 29th-best mark in the NFL.
When covering punts, the Texans again ranked 31st in the League. Opponents averaged 12.4 yards per punt return. Kickoffs return yardage allowed was a bit better, but still in the bottom third of the NFL. The Texans gave up 26 yards per kickoff return, putting them in 25th place.
“We’ve gotta get better on special teams," O'Brien said. "We’re looking for, whether it’s in the draft or the rest of whatever’s left of free agency, can we find some guys? Maybe it’s a returner. Maybe it’s a guy that can cover kicks."
Speed on special teams can go a long way in helping punter Shane Lechler and kicker Randy Bullock, both of whom have strong legs.
2. Offensive line depth: The likely starters, left to right, on the offensive line are Duane Brown, Xavier Su'a-Filo, Ben Jones, Brandon Brooks and Derek Newton.
That quintet, along with former center Chris Myers, got the lion's share of snaps last season.
Tyson Clabo came off the bench for 99 offensive snaps, and Jeff Adams was in the game for a pair of offensive snaps. Nobody else from a group that includes Cody White, Will Yeatman, David Quessenberry, and practice squadders James Ferentz, Matt Feilerand Bryan Witzmann saw regular season game action.
3. More wide receivers: DeAndre Hopkins led the team with 1,210 receiving yards.
Andre Johnson is gone.
Cecil Shorts, III was added in free agency.
Damaris Johnson re-signed in free agency.
O'Brien will look to layer in more help at that position, "continuing to do, probably through the draft, a good job of filling in the wide receiver position."
This year's Draft features what's been described as a bumper crop of pass-catchers.
4. Safety first: At cornerback, both starters in Johnathan Joseph and Kareem Jackson are under contract. So are A.J. Bouye, Darryl Morris and Jumal Rolle.
At safety, the team added Rahim Moore and lost Kendrick Lewis. D.J. Swearinger, Eddie Pleasant and Lonnie Ballentine are under contract as well.
O'Brien said he wanted "to build depth in the secondary, especially at the safety position". Danieal Manning was on the team last season, but is now an unrestricted free agent. The Texans will look to bolster this spot perhaps in the Draft, as well as in free agency.
Created a leadership council of ~10 players that he meets with once a week. Open exchange of ideas on where O'Brien thought the team was... or a player was... or a scheme was... and compared it to the player's impressions. Communication across all fronts.
Arrived in Houston, there was no "team"... just a room full of individuals. Had to create a culture of team. Remove entitlement from player expectations, thought processes. Earn your spot every day.("We're still working on that.")
There more that you can do -- the more versatility you have, the more usefulness you create... and that solidifies your spot on the roster.
Ignore the noise. Don't worry about what's going on outside the team, what people are saying. The only thing that matters is what you do in these rooms, on the practice fields, in the games.
Attitude. Make room for positive reinforcement. Create/recognize small victories. Stay on your players to improve, then give a guy his props when he grows. Small victories.
When I got to Houston, I felt we were a soft team. Other teams around the league felt they could ultimately out-physical us. Talked about this with team, and set up scrimmages with two different teams in preseason... and beat them physically. Word gets around the league quickly about this.
Started off in full padded practices on Wednesdays. Players weren't getting back from last week's games, it was too soon and too much. So lightened the load on Wednesdays and pushed pads to Thursdays. It helped. Keep your team fresh so they can go 60 minutes on Sundays.
Game plan offense/defense equals 16 one game seasons. Don't dwell on the past, what went wrong. See it, correct, move on quickly to the next game. No lingering effect. (Need to improve that in Houston.)
Red area. (Need to get better at this in Houston.) We think the red area begins at the 12 yard line. That's where defenses began changing to red-zone concepts against the Texans. HC has to let the OC know early if it's going to be 4 down territory. We have to be able to run it in. We need tighter formations so WRs can get in and block down. Prefer direct runs, between tackles, not wide. Skill player decisions have to make quicker decisions in red area. Smaller windows, quickly disappear. Catch and run plays. Be prepared to combat picket fence and blitz zero...
http://hou.scout.com/story/1546488-texans-tidbits-o-brien-s-town-hall-call?s=116- Ben Jones has been working at the starting center position. James "Brick" Ferentz has been also getting reps at center during coaching sessions. Xavier Su’a-Filo is working primarily at left guard but getting looks at center.
- 100% participation during offseason work.
- O’Brien likes Kevin Johnson’s ability to make up ground in coverage. Likes how he works and feels good on what he has seen from him over the past ten days they have spent together.
- Brandon Brooks has had a much better offseason this year than last year. He is much stronger this year and the team has high expectations for him.
- Xavier Su’a-Filo took maybe a week off, but has been up at NRG Stadium getting ready for the season. Mentions that he has remade his body for the season and the head coach likes Su'a-Filo's offseason to this point. Can play center, now.
- O’Brien is impressed with the work Jadeveon Clowney has put in. He is always in early and is able to do things with the team in the weight room plus some on field work. However, Clowney is held out of some because of rehab. Expect him to be a full go when he is cleared.
- O’Brien mentions that DeAndre Hopkins is mentoring rookies Jaelen Strong, Keith Humphrey, and Chandler Worthy. DHop doing a really good job in leadership.
- O’Brien likes his top three wide receivers and what they bring to the team. Mentioned Hopkins, Nate Washington, and Cecil Shorts III as the initial three.
- O’Brien mentions that Rick Smith is in charge of moving to get players. There is a consensus between the scouting and coaching staff to make decisions on players to move up.
- O’Brien likes Benardrick McKinney’s leadership ability. When they went to work McKinney at Mississippi State, they liked his mentality as a leader. Was impressed with his being able to line up the defense during rookie mini-camp.
- Ben Jones has been working at the starting center position. James "Brick" Ferentz has been also getting reps at center during coaching sessions. Xavier Sua-Filo is working primarily at left guard but getting looks at center.
- Brandon Brooks has had a much better offseason this year than last year. He is much stronger this year and the team has high expectations for him.
- Xavier Sua-Filo took maybe a week off, but has been up at NRG Stadium getting ready for the season. Mentions that he has remade his body for the season and the head coach likes Su'a-Filo's offseason to this point. Can play center, now.
Some good player news in there, sounds like a number of players have gotten stronger...
And some news of things that haven't changed... yet. ("Rick Smith is in charge of moving to get players") If we really like a player, have real conviction about a player, we'll go up and get him. I give Rick credit for those moves.
- Ben Jones at center still scares the heck out of me. He was below average at G, so do we think he'll miraculously be better at center?
- Ben Jones at center still scares the heck out of me. He was below average at G, so do we think he'll miraculously be better at center?
I don't think he was below average at guard. I thought he was a solid starter.
I'm really interested to see how much weight Ferentz was able to put on. Coach's son, nicknamed "brick"... might be able to work his way into the lineup. He's 6'2 5/8"... if he added 15 lbs he'd be pretty much on average for Cs. OB might just might have a sneaky stash, here. I want a guy named brick on my team.
I don't think he was below average at guard. I thought he was a solid starter.
I'm really interested to see how much weight Ferentz was able to put on. Coach's son, nicknamed "brick"... might be able to work his way into the lineup. He's 6'2 5/8"... if he added 15 lbs he'd be pretty much on average for Cs. OB might just might have a sneaky stash, here. I want a guy named brick on my team.
Yeah, how could anyone not root for a cat that's nicknamed "Brick"? I know I will
Yes, TK, I know you do. I do not....and I have a hunch I'm in the majority
Yeah, how could anyone not root for a cat that's nicknamed "Brick"? I know I will
Yes, TK, I know you do. I do not....and I have a hunch I'm in the majority
- Ben Jones at center still scares the heck out of me. He was below average at G, so do we think he'll miraculously be better at center?
Yes, TK, I know you do. I do not....and I have a hunch I'm in the majority
If it's you and a bunch of board members maybe. Stand over there with the coaching staff, take that vote again and you're probably wrong.
I don't really know. Ben Jones has never particularly stood out to me but I really, really, really...... really hope that if the Texans are dead set on doing this then they have some reason to believe it's a good idea.
The one thing I really like is that I have a feeling that if one of these guys stands out over the others he will be the center. That's something that feels very consistent where this coaching staff is concerned. I think it wasn't long after Kubiak arrived that we started to talk about how some guys appeared to get on the field ahead of others who we thought looked better. That seemed like a regular thing during those 8 years he was in charge. It doesn't feel like things work that way anymore. At least not to me.
I know... seems like it's just me & OB.
I'm really interested to see how much weight Ferentz was able to put on. Coach's son, nicknamed "brick"... might be able to work his way into the lineup. He's 6'2 5/8"... if he added 15 lbs he'd be pretty much on average for Cs. OB might just might have a sneaky stash, here. I want a guy named brick on my team.
I'm actually fine with Ben Jones at C. He was actually drafted for the center position out of college, and was described at the time as being Myers eventual replacement. He was able to win the starting center job at Georgia 3 games into his freshman season. In the 2012 draft, we was rated amongst the top 2 centers in the entire class.
Ben Jones' Wiki
I'm actually fine with Ben Jones at C. He was actually drafted for the center position out of college, and was described at the time as being Myers eventual replacement. He was able to win the starting center job at Georgia 3 games into his freshman season. In the 2012 draft, we was rated amongst the top 2 centers in the entire class.
Ben Jones' Wiki
I think Ben's biggest problem is that he looks like your teenage son's goofy best friend, rather than a grizzled, tough as nails NFL offensive lineman. Hopefully, 2015 (and beyond) prove that you can't judge this book by it's cover.
I'm really interested to see how much weight Ferentz was able to put on. Coach's son, nicknamed "brick"... might be able to work his way into the lineup. He's 6'2 5/8"... if he added 15 lbs he'd be pretty much on average for Cs. OB might just might have a sneaky stash, here. I want a guy named brick on my team.
O’Brien is impressed with the work Jadeveon Clowney has put in. He is always in early and is able to do things with the team in the weight room plus some on field work. However, Clowney is held out of some because of rehab. Expect him to be a full go when he is cleared
Nothing new here except OB possibly wanting to push Clowney too hard once he is cleared. The latest expectations for Clowney to be cleared for the playing field is the end of training camp. If I'm not mistaken, I believe this is also our own Doc's estimate. How much pressure will the medical staff be under to release him early? Also, is it reasonable to expect a player who has not been practicing to immediately start once he is cleared? Will he see spot duty in the first game? Or is it better for him to practice a couple of weeks before throwing him into a game?Texans Tidbits: O'Brien's Town Hall Call
Some notes of interest from Head Coach Bill O'Brien's Town Hall Conference Call...- OBrien is impressed with the work Jadeveon Clowney has put in. He is always in early and is able to do things with the team in the weight room plus some on field work. However, Clowney is held out of some because of rehab. Expect him to be a full go when he is cleared...http://hou.scout.com/story/1546488-texans-tidbits-o-brien-s-town-hall-call?s=116
Nothing new here except OB possibly wanting to push Clowney too hard once he is cleared. The latest expectations for Clowney to be cleared for the playing field is the end of training camp. If I'm not mistaken, I believe this is also our own Doc's estimate. How much pressure will the medical staff be under to release him early? Also, is it reasonable to expect a player who has not been practicing to immediately start once he is cleared? Will he see spot duty in the first game? Or is it better for him to practice a couple of weeks before throwing him into a game?
I'd hope they'd ease him in gradually, giving him a very limited role as a situational guy to get him up to "match fitness" (to use a soccer phrase).
However, having watched the NFL for some time now I fully expect them to throw him out there with the pressure to be everything they drafted him to be right off the bat and if something goes pop straight away then it's aww shucks on to the next man.
I'm amazed by the attitude of these teams, very much a 'what are my millions invested going to get me this week' with little thought to the maximum return over however many years the contract is. Crazy.
As one of 50 voters with a ballot in The Associated Press' NFL awards, I selected Bill O'Brien as my Coach of the Year in 2014. In his first year as an NFL head man, O'Brien promptly transformed the Texans from a two-win mess to a 9-7 squad that competed for the playoffs all season long. O'Brien kept this team playing winning football despite not having a quarterback and not having the services of the No. 1 overall pick (Jadeveon Clowney) for most of the season. O'Brien simply made the most of what he had. It was his idea, after all, to toss Watt into the red-zone offense -- a masterstroke that netted the Texans three touchdowns. Houston was disciplined and accountable. O'Brien's bunch overachieved.
Now, in a wide-open AFC, the Texans are on the doorstep of being a playoff team -- and possibly winning in January.
One way or another, O'Brien will turn an obvious weakness on paper into a manageable situation that won't doom the team. He's that good. Anyone who saw what he did last year -- and as head coach of Penn State during trying times -- knows what I'm talking about.
Every team in the AFC South has improved this offseason, as I wrote a couple of months ago. But Houston should be able to go 4-2 in the division -- at worst. I don't think that's an unrealistic expectation. Indianapolis will rightfully enter the season as the division favorite, but Houston won't lay down for the Colts. And they'll be right in the mix for a wild-card slot.
When you stack Houston up against some other probable wild-card contenders -- like and Jets and Bills -- there's a reason I believe in the Texans the most. It's because of O'Brien.
Houston, New York and Buffalo all have great defenses ... and up-in-the-air quarterback situations. I know O'Brien can handle this, but what about the other two coaches? I think Todd Bowles was a great hire, but we still need to see how he handles the quarterback position and the bright spotlight of New York City. As for Buffalo ... I've seen the Rex Ryan movie before. I know how it ends.
Houston has a fantastic coach. And in an AFC that appears to be pretty darn balanced, this will make a huge difference.
This August will be sizzling with Texans talk, as I predict they'll be a fascinating team to follow on "Hard Knocks." And the even better news is that we will still be talking about Houston in January. Yes, I believe this team hits the postseason.
It's the year of the Texans.
(on the team’s conditioning this year compared to last year) “I do. I do see some guys that were rookies last year that have come back in better shape. I’ll use Louis Nix as an example. I think Louis Nix has come back in good shape. He’s running around. He’s able to take all the reps. I think Lonnie Ballentine is another guy that was a rookie last year that’s come back. Then there’s guys that are just in fantastic shape that were rookies last year like Andre Hal. I mean, the guy can go all day. Now, we’ve got to get this rookie class to understand that, the rookies that are here now to understand that they need to be in tip top condition when they come back for July 25th.”
(on the rookie in the best shape) “I would say none of them. I wouldn’t even, yeah, I would say they all have a long way to go.”
(on embracing the Houston weather) “I do. I think we need to embrace it. I really do because we practice hard, we compete hard. Our guys play hard and I think it’s great out there. I think to be able to go out there in the middle of the day and practice the way we do, I think it’s something that we really need to use to our advantage and be a team that’s in good physical condition.”
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