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Texans Game Week -- at San Francisco 49ers (7:30PM CDT)

Nice post and I agree with almost everything you said, but Schaub is not the weakest link on this team. I believe that distinction belongs to the OL. We have them out there to stop defenders, not just slow them down. They need to start doing their jobs better.
Schaub is 4th in percentage of dropbacks under pressure in the league. He's pressured 130% more often than Peyton Manning.

Special teams coverage in the running, too.




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Johnson also said he told his teammates it was "BS" that Kubiak took the blame for the loss. Said it was on them as players. #Texans

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Andre Johnson said his shin swelled a bit and since last week's plan worked so well for him to play, they followed same this week.

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That's the point. He's not the weak link, but he doesn't have the skills necessary to "make up" for the deficiencies of the team.

Where is it written than he needs to make up for the others? This is why they call it a team game, and why there are 10 other guys on offense. One person cannot do it alone. They all need each other. I have to say I am amazed at your transformation Thunderkyss. You truly have gone over to the dark side. At least Schaub haters stick to their guns no matter what happens.

Schaub is 4th in percentage of dropbacks under pressure in the league. He's pressured 130% more often than Peyton Manning.

Special teams coverage in the running, too.

Great post, thanks. A perfect illustration of what I was saying. Rep to you, but it won't let me. Says I need to spread it around some.
 
Where is it written than he needs to make up for the others?.

check these boards, you'll see it written many times over.

Not much of an argument agreeing with me though. Doesn't matter if it's written down or not, that is the problem with Schaub. Russell Wilson is not a better QB than Schaub, he didn't win the game on his own, but he knew to do whatever it took to not let 2nd & super long turn into 3rd & super long. He also had the ability to do it.

He also did not make a mistake that helped the other team win.

It's not written anywhere that he needed to do either of these, it's in his blood, his DNA. He's a winner. Matt's not.
 
check these boards, you'll see it written many times over.

Not much of an argument agreeing with me though. Doesn't matter if it's written down or not, that is the problem with Schaub. Russell Wilson is not a better QB than Schaub, he didn't win the game on his own, but he knew to do whatever it took to not let 2nd & super long turn into 3rd & super long. He also had the ability to do it.

He also did not make a mistake that helped the other team win.

It's not written anywhere that he needed to do either of these, it's in his blood, his DNA. He's a winner. Matt's not.


That is kind of short sighted don't you think? I mean how can you compare the two players in the first place? Two difference philosophies, and two different athletes. You don't think Schaub knows the same things? Schaub just does not have the running ability to do those things, and we did not bring him in here for that kind of thing either so expecting him to do it is silly.

But instead of understanding that we brought in O linemen in to pass block so that the QB we have and have invested in has a clean pocket, and it is not happening, you want to lay all of that at the admittedly slow feet of Schaub. Schaub is doing exactly what we asked him to do, and doing it well when the OL does their job. That is like Schaub taking a 1 step drop and never throwing the ball but then blaming the linemen for not protecting him. But that is not what is happening.

Schaub is dropping back and getting creamed because our O Line is not blocking, or at least not with any consistency. You keep saying it is the QB's job to overcome those shortcomings, and you say it is written all over this board, but since when are fans experts on what is, and what is not? I call BS. It is the O Lines responsibility to overcome Schaub's lack of mobility and keep him clean, or at least most of the time. Just like they do for Manning in Denver. But that is NOT happening. Not even close. It is worse than last year when I said the same thing down the stretch.
 
That is kind of short sighted don't you think? I mean how can you compare the two players in the first place? Two difference philosophies, and two different athletes. You don't think Schaub knows the same things? Schaub just does not have the running ability to do those things, and we did not bring him in here for that kind of thing either so expecting him to do it is silly.

Not really. After the Marshawn Lynch Fumble, we ended up in a third down situation. Pass protection broke down & Matt was able to navigate his way out of the pocket. Scrambling to his left, he was able to gain separation between himself & the pursuing defender. DeAndre Hopkins was in front of him, Schaub had his eyes on him. As he felt his time was running out & DeAndre was unable to open up, Matt threw the ball away. Had he the ability to turn his head away from that single receiver, he'd have seen Andre streaking towards him, uncovered in the back of the end zone. He might not have known it, but he had time to stop, set his feet & deliver a catchable pass to Andre.

In the divisional play off round, there was a similar situation. Matt got away from the pass rush, had plenty of time to survey the field, set his feet & make a decent attempt to pick up a third down conversion. Didn't happen as he felt pressure that wasn't there & threw the ball away...... punt.

In the Oakland game, at home 2011. The game ended with Matt throwing the ball out of bounds on what would have been a game winning play. Same situation as the one I described from last Sunday's game. He threw the ball expecting Jacoby to push through the defender (much the way Sherman pushed through OD) to catch the ball in the end zone. It would have been better to stop running & put some air under the ball, allowing Jacoby to out jump the defender. It might have ended with the same result, but at least Jacoby would have had a chance to make a play on the ball. Instead, it was everything he could do to prevent the interception.

I'm not asking Matt to do anything beyond his ability. I'm asking him to maximize what he can do.

But instead of understanding that we brought in O linemen in to pass block so that the QB we have and have invested in has a clean pocket, and it is not happening....

So should we just give up? Can't win another game, the OL is broke. Ryan Clady & the Broncos' starting Center are out. Their OL looks good, because their QB gets rid of the ball fast. He also scares defenses with his propensity to throw the ball behind them & make them look silly.

Russell Wilson was playing with 3 back-ups on the line. He got sacked as many times as Schaub did. Brooks Reed got a sack. But Wilson ran out of a bunch of other sacks & made plays that helped his team.

Schaub is dropping back and getting creamed because our O Line is not blocking, or at least not with any consistency.

I call BS. It is the O Lines responsibility to overcome Schaub's lack of mobility and keep him clean, or at least most of the time. .

& the question is will he do something about it or not?

I don't like to make the David Carr comparison, because I don't think it fits, but after hearing that Schaub's been the most blitzed QB in the league ytd, I'm starting to wonder.

When they blitz you like that, they're telling you they do not respect your game. It's the equivalent to being spit in the face, btch slapped. You gotta make them pay. Continue to convert third downs, score TDs. It's demoralizing to the defense & makes them question how much effort they need to put into each blitz. If you're rewarding them by not converting, by getting off the field, by not scoring... it's going to keep coming because it's working.

Sure, the OL has some responsibility in this. Matt needs someone to throw the ball to. But bottom line... it's on Matt.
 
Not really. After the Marshawn Lynch Fumble, we ended up in a third down situation. Pass protection broke down & Matt was able to navigate his way out of the pocket. Scrambling to his left, he was able to gain separation between himself & the pursuing defender. DeAndre Hopkins was in front of him, Schaub had his eyes on him. As he felt his time was running out & DeAndre was unable to open up, Matt threw the ball away. Had he the ability to turn his head away from that single receiver, he'd have seen Andre streaking towards him, uncovered in the back of the end zone. He might not have known it, but he had time to stop, set his feet & deliver a catchable pass to Andre.

In the divisional play off round, there was a similar situation. Matt got away from the pass rush, had plenty of time to survey the field, set his feet & make a decent attempt to pick up a third down conversion. Didn't happen as he felt pressure that wasn't there & threw the ball away...... punt.

In the Oakland game, at home 2011. The game ended with Matt throwing the ball out of bounds on what would have been a game winning play. Same situation as the one I described from last Sunday's game. He threw the ball expecting Jacoby to push through the defender (much the way Sherman pushed through OD) to catch the ball in the end zone. It would have been better to stop running & put some air under the ball, allowing Jacoby to out jump the defender. It might have ended with the same result, but at least Jacoby would have had a chance to make a play on the ball. Instead, it was everything he could do to prevent the interception.

I'm not asking Matt to do anything beyond his ability. I'm asking him to maximize what he can do.



So should we just give up? Can't win another game, the OL is broke. Ryan Clady & the Broncos' starting Center are out. Their OL looks good, because their QB gets rid of the ball fast. He also scares defenses with his propensity to throw the ball behind them & make them look silly.

Russell Wilson was playing with 3 back-ups on the line. He got sacked as many times as Schaub did. Brooks Reed got a sack. But Wilson ran out of a bunch of other sacks & made plays that helped his team.



& the question is will he do something about it or not?

I don't like to make the David Carr comparison, because I don't think it fits, but after hearing that Schaub's been the most blitzed QB in the league ytd, I'm starting to wonder.

When they blitz you like that, they're telling you they do not respect your game. It's the equivalent to being spit in the face, btch slapped. You gotta make them pay. Continue to convert third downs, score TDs. It's demoralizing to the defense & makes them question how much effort they need to put into each blitz. If you're rewarding them by not converting, by getting off the field, by not scoring... it's going to keep coming because it's working.

Sure, the OL has some responsibility in this. Matt needs someone to throw the ball to. But bottom line... it's on Matt.

Those are just your opinions, or perceptions. I am pretty sure if you were the one who had been getting smashed all season long, and ANOTHER huge lineman or LB was bearing down on you, you might feel differently. Besides Matt is coached to throw it away when the play breaks down because that is taking care of the ball and not making risky plays. Example the Hawks game. Bad decision even though Daniels was open. Daniels got beat by a smaller man who wanted the ball more, but we all know the right play was to eat the ball, punt, play defense.

In the end that is where we disagree. It's not all on Schaub. It is a team game, and without the time to throw, no QB will complete passes. Read Steph's article. Last in the league at pass protection my friend. Last in the league.
 
Those are just your opinions, or perceptions.

Yeah, that's all I got.

In the end that is where we disagree. It's not all on Schaub. It is a team game, and without the time to throw, no QB will complete passes.

Where you been? That's what I've been saying for at least the last two years. This last week, I've just been on the other side.

I'll be laying off Matt soon, but I still expect him to do his part. Being a QB, I'm sorry, but his part is a little greater than everyone else's.

& don't tell me about being last in pass protection. I remember how much that changed after our last QB change with the same OL.
 
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No one is giving them a chance in hell this Sunday. CBS, ESPN, SI, NFL.com, SN, etc.....not one single person has picked them to win.

Good! This will be a game of pure dominance from the Bulls on Kirby. PERIOD.
 
I hate playing teams that appear to be struggling. They tend to figure things out & get back on track when they play us.

Remember the last time we played the NFC East? Every one of those teams couldn't find an offense & were looking at being 0-4, or 1-4, or "out of the picture" then they played us & go on to being "the strongest division in the league"

I'd much rather go play an unstoppable Denver team, or a 4-0 Seahawks, or a 6-1 KC team. At least we'll play well & have a shot at winning.

A struggling Baltimore team comes to Reliant & "whoa, there's that offense we've been looking for."
 
The timing of the game is good. I can leave Austin at a reasonable time and be back to watch the game in my dorm room :)

I think we're going to do this. I think that this is a proud team and they will roar back. Everyone wants to do their job. Even Schaub will look good this week.

It's gonna happen, guys. I can feel it. I think Arian is going to have a good evening Sunday.
 
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Compliments of Dale Robertson of the Chronicle:

How the Texans' and the 49ers' NFL rankings compare a fourth of the way through the season:

Texans / 49ers

5 Total offense 21

7 Rushing offense 8

9 Passing offense 27

1 Total defense 4

23 Rushing defense 19

1 Passing defense 3

Stats trying to predict outcomes are impressing me less and less.
 
I hate playing teams that appear to be struggling. They tend to figure things out & get back on track when they play us.

Remember the last time we played the NFC East? Every one of those teams couldn't find an offense & were looking at being 0-4, or 1-4, or "out of the picture" then they played us & go on to being "the strongest division in the league"

I'd much rather go play an unstoppable Denver team, or a 4-0 Seahawks, or a 6-1 KC team. At least we'll play well & have a shot at winning.

A struggling Baltimore team comes to Reliant & "whoa, there's that offense we've been looking for."

You're forgetting that we're a team that appears to be struggling too.
 
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#Texans' GM Smith on Matt Schaub: "It’s a misperception that the fire doesn’t burn in him. It burns hot in him." #NFL #49ers

You've got to be careful. Too much of this kind of fire happening only inside may destroy all of your guts.:texflag:
 
I think SF shuts down our rushing game and dares MS to beat them. Short throws require a lot of plays to score a TD. Many chances for tipped passes, bad passes, misreads, etc.. Unless we get some cheap scores by TO's I don't see us winning.
 
I think SF shuts down our rushing game and dares MS to beat them. Short throws require a lot of plays to score a TD. Many chances for tipped passes, bad passes, misreads, etc.. Unless we get some cheap scores by TO's I don't see us winning.

I'm afraid that I see the same thing in our future.
 
I think our D matches up well with the 9ers. Any team that runs a lot and has pass plays that take a while to develop, our d matches up well with them.

On offense, we can move the ball against anyone.

9ers are going to come out hungry at home. They need the win. We do too.

I don't know what to think of the prime time stuff. I don't buy into it really, but the record there is undeniable.

I'm giving this one to the 9ers. I think the 9ers have a more explosive offense and I think Schaub is going to play tight. 9ers get some pressure and he starts to shrink under the heat. I think he throws at least one pick this game.

35-21 9ers.

Texans either jump out early and are stifled late or they struggle early and get some garbage time love.

I'm sorry but that 35 made me laugh. Good one, man.


You still laughing, bro?
 
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