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If Donald Brown decides to come out (I thought he had decided to stay in for one more year) he is my hands down second round pick.
Texans RB draft prediction thread-
1) TexansSeminole selects - James Davis, Clemson 5-11 210 3rd. rd.
2) Beerlover selects - Jeremiah Johnson, Oregon 5-09 208 3rd. rd.
3) rarazz00 selects - Arian Foster, Tennessee 6-1 216 4th. rd.
4) Kaiser Toro selects - Charles Scott, LSU 5-11 232 3rd. rd.
5) steelbtexan selects - Gartrell Johnson, Colorado State 5-10 225 5th. rd.
6) b0ng selects - Arian Foster, Tennessee 6-1 216 5th. rd.
7) Super Mario selects - Shonn Greene, Iowa 5-11 235 2nd. rd.
8) Mari-OWNED! selects - Rashad Jennings, Liberty 6-1 232 4th. rd..
9) Hottoddie selects - Darrell Mack, Utah 5-11 220 6th. rd.
10) LonerATO selects - Josh Vaughan, Richmond 6-0 234 5th. rd.
11) LORK 88 selects - Cedric Peerman, Virginia 509 208 5th. Rd.
12) mussop selects - Donald Brown, Connecticut 5-10 210 2nd. Rd.
13) nero THE zero selects - Donald Brown, Connecticut 5-10 210 2nd. Rd.
14) rickyb selects - Jorvorskie Lane, Texas A&M 5-11 278 7th. Rd.
OK, I'll go out (way out) on a limb here.
Jorvorskie Lane, RB, Texas A&M. round 7
If the rationale is that we need a between the tackle bruiser, especially in short-yardage red zone situations, and also to spell Slaton (and I am not saying I am bought into this last aspect of the argument), then Lane would certainly be a bull who could be had on the cheap.
Now, do I seriously believe it will happen? No. But what the heck. Put me down for Jorvorskie. Gives me something to root for.
(I just think the Texans have more pressing needs than RB.)
all the best,
rick
Hey Beerlover,
Did you have to make my color Dark Orchid? I'm starting to feel a little insecure here.![]()
Hey Beerlover,
Did you have to make my color Dark Orchid? I'm starting to feel a little insecure here.![]()
Personally - I think the 3rd is too early to take our RB. We just have too many defensive holes. We're looking for a guy who will probably get a MAX of 10-12 carries.
The more I think about it, the more I think we're going to end up addressing it in free agency.
Me, Beerlover and the guy at the table next to me last night at the sports bar.What does this mean?? Where does this "consensus" come from??
I'd like to add that Fresno State is 108th out of 119 teams in rush defense allowing 210 yards per game. 97th in overall defense.
Just something to think about when looking at this guy's bowl performance.
That's not to say the guy didn't play well in other games because he did, he had a fantastic year. I'm just providing some food for thought.
You really think Texans will go running back in first after Slaton set team record and the needs for defense? I'm gonna respectfully disagree.OK I have two guys at different times in the draft, why because we got lucky with injuries and Slaton needs help to last.
Donald Brown RB UConn in the first after a big trade down.
and in the 5th round Tyrell Sutton RB Northwestern
You really think Texans will go running back in first after Slaton set team record and the needs for defense? I'm gonna respectfully disagree.
- NFL Draft ScoutRUSHING OFFENSE: A The Panthers finished the season averaging 152.3 yards per game on the ground and had a league-high 29 touchdowns on the ground. DeAngelo Williams didn't get any love in the MVP voting, but he had an incredible season rushing for 1,515 yards and 18 touchdowns. He also averaged 5.5 yards per carry behind a rebuilt offensive line. Rookie Jonathan Stewart set team rookie records rushing for 836 yards and 10 touchdowns
another example is Carolina who drafted DeAngelo Williams #27th in 06 & came back in 08 with Jonathan Stewart #13 overall! how's that running game working for em?
- NFL Draft Scout
Word for word in agreement, my friend. That's why I selected Ian Johnson. Denver as we all know had 4 backs and this past season we basically had one, Slaton. I can't remember being the exact scenario two years in a row. Theoretically, we pick 15 rather than 18 and should get a very similar package in trade down scenario. Now wouldn't that be a kick in the head? If we don't plug most of our major holes this off season, something will smell. I just wished one of the FA defensive players like Asomugha would end up with Texans. I just want one defensive starter in free agency for my late Christmas present.what you got if God Forbid Slaton gets hurt? thats the point you need to protect your weapons by adding more weapons to spread out the risk, kinda like investments. anyway I believe he is thinking along the lines of another trade down like last year, that worked out pretty well & how the Texans aquired Slaton in the 1st place.
I just wished one of the FA defensive players like Asomugha would end up with Texans. I just want one defensive starter in free agency for my late Christmas present.
another example is Carolina who drafted DeAngelo Williams #27th in 06 & came back in 08 with Jonathan Stewart #13 overall! how's that running game working for em?
- NFL Draft Scout
I doubt McNair agrees but I am almost ready for the team to over pay if it is for a shut down CB or a Mario type DE for example. Sure, we have been burned on some FA in past but look at who they were and who was selecting and who was designing the contracts.Yeah, that would help out a whole lot. If we could just get one. At some point in time the Texans need to get really aggressive and get one good starter to fill one of our needs. It could even be at CB or LB.
I doubt McNair agrees but I am almost ready for the team to over pay if it is for a shut down CB or a Mario type DE for example. Sure, we have been burned on some FA in past but look at who they were and who was selecting and who was designing the contracts.
Shepherd is interesting. My question is, how will contracts be worded once the cap is gone? Do you sign cheap first years and then balloon a large payment first year after bargaining agreement is eliminated. Some insist it will be re-negotiated, but I don't know.Exactly. We have typically gone after players with Buyer Beware stickers all over them. You have to be aggressive in FA and the draft to build a team fast. There are always good free agent signings every year, but you've got to jump on players fast when they're a position of need, because the good ones usually get signed pretty quick. And you're not over paying when you're getting the production. You just don't want to over pay when you are going after a FA that most likely won't have many years left on their contract.
I wonder what the Eagles will be doing with Lito Sheppard now since they were never able to trade him this year.
Exactly. We have typically gone after players with Buyer Beware stickers all over them. You have to be aggressive in FA and the draft to build a team fast.
Just curious, do you have any example of big name FA's the past few years who signed contracts which would have fit within the Texans' cap?
Granted they made some bad signings early on with Wade, Walker to get them in trouble, but even the year of Weaver they were limited because of Glenn and those other players. Just wonder if there are really people they could have signed the last three years after having made early bad decisions.
Lito Sheppard in my eyes would have been a good player to go after from the Eagles. I'm not sure if we could have gotten a good enough deal from them to pull the trigger, but it would have been interesting to look at. He is a good veteran that should be around for a while and won't demand top dollars.
I would have liked to have tried to make a move for Stroud last year as well. He could have been a nice answer to our DT debacle for a few years possibly.
Those are two from last off season that I remember I wanted the Texans to go after.
I thought you were talking about guys like Nate Clements or Asante Samuel.
Stroud was doable. Hard to criticize that one too much though since they expected Okoye to make a 2nd year jump.
Shepard wasn't a free agent and isn't this year either. If the trade price was right, maybe as high as a 4th, that could be an option.
Main point was, under Kubiak they haven't had the money to go after the Clements, Faneca, Samuels of the world. Let's see what they do this year. I tend to like the 2nd tier down for money and risk reasons. Look at the hundreds of millions spent on WR FA's last year and none panned out.
You really think Texans will go running back in first after Slaton set team record and the needs for defense? I'm gonna respectfully disagree.
BPA and yes Brown is a stud, he and Slaton would push each other huge heights. Just get them the balls.
If you think Shepherd is worth a 3rd and 5th, think about trading down from 15th. We got a 3rd and 6th for 18th spot in first. There is your trade for Shepherd & you still have all your regular picks. I would do that trade only if you think Shepherd will beat out Dunta or Reeves.Like I said, you have to be careful. I wasn't really referring to the BIG BLOCKBUSTER players that got those max contracts like Clements, Samuel, and a few others. Sheppard wouldn't have demanded that kind of money. He would have had to have been had in a trade. A 4th wouldn't have gotten him though and I wouldn't have traded Sheppard for a 4th rounder either. Maybe a 3rd and a 5th or something like that. I would have done that, because all we will end up doing is drafting another CB somewhere in the 2nd rounds or later any way and those players are gambles while Sheppard is a really solid player who should have a lot of years left to play.
I really wanted Stroud though. Not to replace Okoye, but to replace Travis Johnson. Stroud is a beast and I would have loved to have put him next to Mario.
And another thing you have to remember is that every off season there is always a ton of players that are whining about this and mad about that. Usually having to do with their contracts or something and many of them become tradeable players. You've got to be aggressive when talking to other teams about finding out what they might be willing to accept when they have a disgruntled player and they're in a vulnerable situation. The Patriots front office is great at that and the Cowboys are as well. Same with the Eagles. The Eagles always seem to pick up a few really good players that fit in their defense every year that aren't really HUGE name players who are demanding the Bigtime contracts and get good value out of them.