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Texans draft clarification

TexansFan15

Waterboy
Originally I thought the Texans only traded a 4th round pick for DT, but I’m seeing that some say that we have a 4th and 7th.

Does anyone have any clarification on it?
 

justmy2cents

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Oh I get it .... Vandermeer is a talker, not a thinker .... he doesn't have that "Football Look" to me. No, wait .... I've got it, he's got an old pal, who is an announcer in Sioux Falls, and swears that Trey Pipkins is an unbelievable, and as of now, completely undiscovered - massive "diamond in the rough" .... much like Kyle Fuller .... also from the 7th round ! Sorry guys, healthy criticism is usually a good thing .... and that wasn't healthy .... I was being an A$$ .... that one caught me wrong !
 

JB

Old Curmudgeon
he did not have us with 2 second rounders either unless i missed it, Cody Ford in second as posters say is dreaming
Yeah you missed it. He had Ford and Trayvon Mullen in the 2nd and Isabella in the 3rd
 
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austins23

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Rich Schmidt

Myopicone
Yeah you missed it. He had Ford and Trayvon Mullen in the 2nd and Isabella in the 3rd
Thanks JB, small screen and old eyes. Would have a happy dance if Cody would be there in the second, I see him mocked before our first so need him to smoke some wacky weed or something
 
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IDEXAN

Hall of Fame
Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma

This is a big (6-4, 330) high-motor mauler who loves to knock large people over. He played on arguably the best line in football and will undoubtedly inspire ‘he’s a 10-year starter’ type comments. I still think our young tackles can improve. And I love that Seantrel Henderson gets to give it another go. But more help is needed. And if he turns out to be a great guard instead, like John Harris thinks, so be it. Ford appears to be able to help a team right away.
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I think it's imprudent maybe even foolish to expect improvement from "our young tackles". It would be better IMO to expect no such improvement and then look upon it as a windfall were it happen so then I say draft accordingly which means atleast two tackle prospects taken in the first 4 picks assuming no OT acquisitions in free agency.
 

JB

Old Curmudgeon
I think it's imprudent maybe even foolish to expect improvement from "our young tackles". It would be better IMO to expect no such improvement and then look upon it as a windfall were it happen so then I say draft accordingly which means atleast two tackle prospects taken in the first 4 picks assuming no OT acquisitions in free agency.
That would require the folks on Kirby to harbor some suspicion they possibly could be less than stellar. Do you really think their egos will allow that?
 

IDEXAN

Hall of Fame
That would require the folks on Kirby to harbor some suspicion they possibly could be less than stellar. Do you really think their egos will allow that?
Now that Brian Gaine is responsible for and in charge of the Draft over on Kirby I'm expecting something different which will include the highest priority for the OLine because
he recognizes it's been negleted for years.
 

steelbtexan

Hall of Fame
Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma

This is a big (6-4, 330) high-motor mauler who loves to knock large people over. He played on arguably the best line in football and will undoubtedly inspire ‘he’s a 10-year starter’ type comments. I still think our young tackles can improve. And I love that Seantrel Henderson gets to give it another go. But more help is needed. And if he turns out to be a great guard instead, like John Harris thinks, so be it. Ford appears to be able to help a team right away.
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I think it's imprudent maybe even foolish to expect improvement from "our young tackles". It would be better IMO to expect no such improvement and then look upon it as a windfall were it happen so then I say draft accordingly which means atleast two tackle prospects taken in the first 4 picks assuming no OT acquisitions in free agency.
I'm for adding an OT in FA, (Hello Trent Brown) and drafting 2 more OL including a guy that can play both LT/ and eventually move over to RT if Brown was to get hurt. Plus draft a OG like Lindstrom so if Martin continues to suck they can move Fulton to C where he's played very well for the Chiefs.
 

steelbtexan

Hall of Fame
you have more faith than I... I've been watching this franchise since the before the name was conceived
A new owner and GM are the beginning of a new era, where the owner truly is a hands off owner as long as the P/L doesn't suffer.

New = Hope in this case.
 
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DocBar

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Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma

This is a big (6-4, 330) high-motor mauler who loves to knock large people over. He played on arguably the best line in football and will undoubtedly inspire ‘he’s a 10-year starter’ type comments. I still think our young tackles can improve. And I love that Seantrel Henderson gets to give it another go. But more help is needed. And if he turns out to be a great guard instead, like John Harris thinks, so be it. Ford appears to be able to help a team right away.
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I think it's imprudent maybe even foolish to expect improvement from "our young tackles". It would be better IMO to expect no such improvement and then look upon it as a windfall were it happen so then I say draft accordingly which means at least two tackle prospects taken in the first 4 picks assuming no OT acquisitions in free agency.
What two tackles do you expect to be available and in what rounds? A generic "at least two tackles in the first 4 picks" doesn't seem like a good way to conduct a draft. What if there simply aren't any 2nd round rated tackles left when the Texans draft in the 2nd round? Draft one anyway and pass on a higher rated player?
 

steelbtexan

Hall of Fame
What two tackles do you expect to be available and in what rounds? A generic "at least two tackles in the first 4 picks" doesn't seem like a good way to conduct a draft. What if there simply aren't any 2nd round rated tackles left when the Texans draft in the 2nd round? Draft one anyway and pass on a higher rated player?
I hope they sign a FA LT and draft a CB in the 1st if a guy like Greedy falls to 23. Gaine should be able to draft one of my favorite OT's in the 2nd. Although he may need to trade up towards the top of rd 2.

Cajuste may be there. If he's not guys like McGary/Scharping/Edoga /Edwards should be there at 23 of the 2nd rd.
 

DocBar

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I hope they sign a FA LT and draft a CB in the 1st if a guy like Greedy falls to 23. Gaine should be able to draft one of my favorite OT's in the 2nd. Although he may need to trade up towards the top of rd 2.

Cajuste may be there. If he's not guys like McGary/Scharping/Edoga /Edwards should be there at 23 of the 2nd rd.
Are you drafting one of these guys to be your starting LT for the next 10 years? Are you expecting him to come in and start right away? What do you see with Davenport that says he won't develop into an above average LT? We all knew he would be a bit of a project so I would expect year 3 to be a big one for him in terms of quality of play.
 

steelbtexan

Hall of Fame
Are you drafting one of these guys to be your starting LT for the next 10 years? Are you expecting him to come in and start right away? What do you see with Davenport that says he won't develop into an above average LT? We all knew he would be a bit of a project so I would expect year 3 to be a big one for him in terms of quality of play.
I'm expecting the FA signee to be the starting LT and the draftee to be the starting RT but the RT should be able too. In short I never want to see Davenport play LT again.

Davenport doesn't have the feet (Extremely slow. to play LT at an acceptable level and that's something your born with. As much as we would like to see him improve, it's not gonna happen.
 

IDEXAN

Hall of Fame
What two tackles do you expect to be available and in what rounds? A generic "at least two tackles in the first 4 picks" doesn't seem like a good way to conduct a draft. What if there simply aren't any 2nd round rated tackles left when the Texans draft in the 2nd round? Draft one anyway and pass on a higher rated player?
I'm not suggesting that Gaine should be inflexible in the Draft but I do think most teams probably including the Texans draft according to their needest positions after the first round so Gaine might find himself himself in a position in later rounds where he does need to compromise on Board player rankings in the interest of improving roster talent
at OT.
 

Texansphan

All Pro
I'm not suggesting that Gaine should be inflexible in the Draft but I do think most teams probably including the Texans draft according to their needest positions after the first round so Gaine might find himself himself in a position in later rounds where he does need to compromise on Board player rankings in the interest of improving roster talent
at OT.
Something I have noticed over the last few drafts is that teams have been more prepared to reach and they have a legitimate excuse to do so - citing that their assessment of the draftee they chose had him ranked higher than common consensus.
Iow, they can claim his skillset pushed him up their rankings.
 

DocBar

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I'm not suggesting that Gaine should be inflexible in the Draft but I do think most teams probably including the Texans draft according to their needest positions after the first round so Gaine might find himself himself in a position in later rounds where he does need to compromise on Board player rankings in the interest of improving roster talent
at OT.
I would prefer to see them draft BPA/BPA position of need approach. If I have a round one top 5 or 10 grade on a WR falls to 23, I'm going to seriously consider drafting that player after revaluating my positions of need. I would not reach for a 2nd round graded player in the 1st or a 3rd round graded player in the 2nd because that players was at a position of need. If the value isn't there at a position of need, I'd go BPA.
 

steelbtexan

Hall of Fame
I would prefer to see them draft BPA/BPA position of need approach. If I have a round one top 5 or 10 grade on a WR falls to 23, I'm going to seriously consider drafting that player after revaluating my positions of need. I would not reach for a 2nd round graded player in the 1st or a 3rd round graded player in the 2nd because that players was at a position of need. If the value isn't there at a position of need, I'd go BPA.
If Oliver/ Metcalf fell I would definitely consider them at 23.

Very talented guys.

This would depend on who Gaine signed in FA. Gotta protect Watson 1st and foremost.
 

steelbtexan

Hall of Fame
I’d wager Cody Ford is taken before Greedy, and if there not sure Greedy is a good fit for O’Brian? Next tackle prospect after Ford-

Andre Dillard, LT for your
Houston
Texans :wesmantexanfan:
I think Greedy can play in Rac's system and the prospects of HB and Greedy together is very appealing. If Dillard is there he's the pick.
 

DocBar

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If Oliver/ Metcalf fell I would definitely consider them at 23.

Very talented guys.

This would depend on who Gaine signed in FA. Gotta protect Watson 1st and foremost.
You don't protect DWs backside by reaching for a player, regardless of need. Isn't doing that pretty much what got the Texans into the predicament they are in on the OL?
 

justmy2cents

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I agree and If Trent Brown isn't signed in FA.

Trading up for Dillard should be on the table. You cant sit there and hope that Dillard falls to you. Signing Brown opens up options for Gaine.
If I had to bet, my money would be on them standing pat and hoping real hard, that someone .... anyone good, would fall to them. I really didn't think that DW4 would do well in the pros .... and when they spent an extra 1st on him, I was outraged. I wanted Trubisky, because I had watched him all year. Well, I was wrong. Watson is a huge talent .... we need to be proactive, decide who we want most, and go after them. We should not try to build a line with later round draft picks .... we have proven that it is a fool's errand !
 

steelbtexan

Hall of Fame
nah...just seems to be making himself, as a fan, a part of the organization...we do it all the time.
I've always said Texans instead of we, because if I was in charge the Texans would be ran more like the Rams/Chiefs.

But it was Bob's team and he ran it how he saw fit. He ultimately was a sucess. Now it's Cal's team and it looks like he's focusing more on improving the on field product. Atleast I hope he is.
 


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