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steelbtexan

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Are you saying he had zero input on talent acquisition’s?
I'm saying he made re commendations and the GM and BOB had a dysfunctional relationship from the beginning since BOB was a McNair hire.

Let me ask you, how much weight do you think RS put into BOB'S reccomendations knowing their relationship?
 

Lucky

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He had input. Anyone telling you different is full of it and is just making excuses. Here is O'Brien telling you about mistakes he made in the past:

O’Brien is so full of ****. Trying to cover for not spending Cal’s money. “You don’t get to know them”. How well does he know Johnson, Cobb, and Cooks? The real issue is that Hopkins knew O’Brien too well.
 

TheKDog

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Warning: Do not attempt to play a drinking game where everyone takes a shot after O'Brien says the word "Zoom." People will die.

If you think you will feel better about this offseason after reading this transcript...you're wrong. If you suffer from hypertension, irritable bowel syndrome, or Tourette's, consult your doctor before reading. On the plus side, you will learn the name of everyone in the Texans organization. Not sure if that's to share the blame for the ensuing failure, or what.
The guy is just stupid. Very low IQ
 

steelbtexan

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David Shula was an Ivy League grad. He was far from stupid. Would you want David Shula building YOUR team?
Nope, and I don't want BOB building my team either. But he's the guy building the team and I'm rooting for him to succeed. Seems as though some posters are rooting for him to fail.

BTW, Ivy League graduates generally aren't regarded as stupid.
 

bah007

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Nope, and I don't want BOB building my team either. But he's the guy building the team and I'm rooting for him to succeed. Seems as though some posters are rooting for him to fail.

BTW, Ivy League graduates generally aren't regarded as stupid.
He is going to fail. That is not up for discussion at this point. He does not seem to possess any of the qualities that make one successful in this profession. He is impulsive and emotional. He has shown zero ability to consider the long term consequences to his short term decision making. And he surrounds himself with yes men because his ego can’t handle it if he’s not the smartest guy in the room.

Despite what others may say, I do believe he has a mind for offensive football. But he has no vision and no leadership skills. And he will never grow or improve because he is not open to new ideas from anyone who could possibly be smarter than him.

Some posters would just prefer he fail now instead of later. The longer he is in charge the bigger the hole will be that we have to climb out of when he is gone.

His only goal is to survive year by year and he will mortgage the future of the franchise to whatever degree is necessary to accomplish that goal.
 

banned1976

Fire Bill O’Brien, maybe?
He is going to fail. That is not up for discussion at this point. He does not seem to possess any of the qualities that make one successful in this profession. He is impulsive and emotional. He has shown zero ability to consider the long term consequences to his short term decision making. And he surrounds himself with yes men because his ego can’t handle it if he’s not the smartest guy in the room.

Despite what others may say, I do believe he has a mind for offensive football. But he has no vision and no leadership skills. And he will never grow or improve because he is not open to new ideas from anyone who could possibly be smarter than him.

Some posters would just prefer he fail now instead of later. The longer he is in charge the bigger the hole will be that we have to climb out of when he is gone.

His only goal is to survive year by year and he will mortgage the future of the franchise to whatever degree is necessary to accomplish that goal.
In Freud terminology O’Brien has an overactive id. His impulse control is weak. We got a small glimpse of that at halftime of the Miami game. The real mystery is how has he gained the unchallenged confidence of the McNair family?
 

steelbtexan

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He is going to fail. That is not up for discussion at this point. He does not seem to possess any of the qualities that make one successful in this profession. He is impulsive and emotional. He has shown zero ability to consider the long term consequences to his short term decision making. And he surrounds himself with yes men because his ego can’t handle it if he’s not the smartest guy in the room.

Despite what others may say, I do believe he has a mind for offensive football. But he has no vision and no leadership skills. And he will never grow or improve because he is not open to new ideas from anyone who could possibly be smarter than him.

Some posters would just prefer he fail now instead of later. The longer he is in charge the bigger the hole will be that we have to climb out of when he is gone.

His only goal is to survive year by year and he will mortgage the future of the franchise to whatever degree is necessary to accomplish that goal.
We will see

Because I'm a Texans fan, I'm rooting for him to succeed.
 

TheKDog

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In Freud terminology O’Brien has an overactive id. His impulse control is weak. We got a small glimpse of that at halftime of the Miami game. The real mystery is how has he gained the unchallenged confidence of the McNair family?
The McNairs are some of the few people even dumber than him
 

TheKDog

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Very depressing.
What's amazing about that is how many terrible moves they were unable to cover because there were so many.

-signing Hoyer and mallet (and even extending mallet)
-trading 5 picks for Jaelen Strong and Louis Nix
-letting Brooks, Jones and Duane brown go, replacing them with XSF and Jeff Allen
-signing Osweiler to a massive contract then using a 2nd round pick just to get rid of him instead of cutting him
-winning most division titles thanks to defense, then letting the defense go to crap because he's overpaying for offense
-overhauling the offense every year only to have it look exactly the same
 

steelbtexan

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The McNairs are some of the few people even dumber than him
Yet they are billionaires

What's amazing about that is how many terrible moves they were unable to cover because there were so many.

-signing Hoyer and mallet (and even extending mallet)
-trading 5 picks for Jaelen Strong and Louis Nix
-letting Brooks, Jones and Duane brown go, replacing them with XSF and Jeff Allen
-signing Osweiler to a massive contract then using a 2nd round pick just to get rid of him instead of cutting him
-winning most division titles thanks to defense, then letting the defense go to crap because he's overpaying for offense
-overhauling the offense every year only to have it look exactly the same
Who was the GM when these moves were made?
 

KoolAid Sipper

Waterboy
He is going to fail. That is not up for discussion at this point. He does not seem to possess any of the qualities that make one successful in this profession. He is impulsive and emotional. He has shown zero ability to consider the long term consequences to his short term decision making. And he surrounds himself with yes men because his ego can’t handle it if he’s not the smartest guy in the room.

Despite what others may say, I do believe he has a mind for offensive football. But he has no vision and no leadership skills. And he will never grow or improve because he is not open to new ideas from anyone who could possibly be smarter than him.

Some posters would just prefer he fail now instead of later. The longer he is in charge the bigger the hole will be that we have to climb out of when he is gone.

His only goal is to survive year by year and he will mortgage the future of the franchise to whatever degree is necessary to accomplish that goal.
Unfortunately why should he? I don't know of anyone in the Texans org that can "check" him besides Cal and he doesn't seem to be concerned with OB's actions. Cal is seeing 1 losing season in 6 years and the $$$ from a stadium full of season ticket holders plus giving OB the GM title saves more money. As far as OB's offensive mind, I agree he knows what he is talking about regarding an offense. However, he seems to have no situational awareness skills and it prohibits him from making the best possible decisions.
 

IDEXAN

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Yet they are billionaires
But the entrepreneur/ founder is gone, so the remaining family members are his heirs who probably didn't have much to do with his business success which enabled him to accumulate the resources to buy the franchise.
I dunno but believe at this point the best hope we fans have is for the McNairs to sell the franchise to a person or group who's sincerely interested in the teams success on the field.
 

steelbtexan

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But the entrepreneur/ founder is gone, so the remaining family members are his heirs who probably didn't have much to do with his business success which enabled him to accumulate the resources to buy the franchise.
I dunno but believe at this point the best hope we fans have is for the McNairs to sell the franchise to a person or group who's sincerely interested in the teams success on the field.
I've been saying this since 2010.
 

ArlingtonTexan

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But the entrepreneur/ founder is gone, so the remaining family members are his heirs who probably didn't have much to do with his business success which enabled him to accumulate the resources to buy the franchise.
I dunno but believe at this point the best hope we fans have is for the McNairs to sell the franchise to a person or group who's sincerely interested in the teams success on the field.
In my mind, these ideas contradict each other. I mean if you are wealthy by marriage and/or birth and are in the one business that prints money, there are about zero reasons to ever sell. The check could always get big enough, but big here is making Morgana looking like she needs a training bra oversized.
 

steelbtexan

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Truly think we're closer now than we've ever been. Not to defend that dumass calling the shots, I don't understand anything he's doing.
Hopefully you're right.

Why do you think they're closer than ever?

They're still a long way away from the Chiefs.
 

thunderkyss

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Why do you think they're closer than ever?
It's going to sound dumb. But we're winning for no good reason. Ain't got no defense, ain't got no offense.

I used to hope the other team would have some major injury to deal with, but that hadn't been necessary either.

Personally I believe it's Watson, but I know it's more than that.

Fk KC
 

steelbtexan

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It's going to sound dumb. But we're winning for no good reason. Ain't got no defense, ain't got no offense.

I used to hope the other team would have some major injury to deal with, but that hadn't been necessary either.

Personally I believe it's Watson, but I know it's more than that.

Fk KC
Cant be coaching

The Houston Watson's
 

justmy2cents

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I'm willing to accept coaching is part of it, maybe even a big part of it. So far no one has been able to make a good case for it.

Yep .... I don't know that it's provable, but it seems to me, to be connected to Watson .... his refusal to give up .... ol' Mo ! It's a contagion .... especially among high character guys !

Another Question .... wasn't just a few days ago, that everyone went crazy, when it came out that O'Brien spent several hours on the phone with one of the running backs .... JK, or Cam, or somebody. Then, everyone went crazy because he was focusing too much on the offense ? So, he starts talking - Safety ! Man, talk about wetting your finger and sticking it in the air .... reminds me of the last line of Bohemian Rhapsody .... man's gotta future in Washington !
 

justmy2cents

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I heard it one of the first times ever played on KILT .... standing in a Dodge garage .... and said .... "That's a serious composition .... it'll be a classic." I only shared that because I'm not often right !
 

thunderkyss

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I heard it one of the first times ever played on KILT .... standing in a Dodge garage .... and said .... "That's a serious composition .... it'll be a classic." I only shared that because I'm not often right !
Sorry, I thought you meant the movie. The song is cool as hell
 


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