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you forgot tony hollings--great move in 2003.we just traded a pbuc and a joppru for matt schaub?
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you forgot tony hollings--great move in 2003.we just traded a pbuc and a joppru for matt schaub?
i'm just trying to poop on everyone's party. believe me, i'm as glad as any texans fan that we have a new qb.so? A QB with 75 starts and 3 wins with a combined 2+ TD's combined with 201+ yards passing in the same game. This happened 3 times in 75 games. Three. I'll go with the Schaub.
and sure, I've been wrong before. Back in 2001 I believe....I'll have to check on that and get back with you however.
steve young, brett favre, matt hasseelback etc etc
dude you're a carr homer we get it but dont be all doom and gloom before you see him play
so many options of shanked 2nd rounders...we might be doing ourselves a favor
i've been wondering about that too... our FO has been fairly tight-lipped so far, so i guess we wait and see.The more pressing question is why are we trading away picks - going against our statements that we need more picks to fill holes? I am really confused by this move and can only hope that there is more to eat that we simply don't see...
Just let it go Carr Bomb, point of fact is you really don't know that you could have done any better than Carr. You have never been in that situation.
People who don't like DC can't really say it is because he is a crappy QB.
The more pressing question is why are we trading away picks - going against our statements that we need more picks to fill holes? I am really confused by this move and can only hope that there is more to eat that we simply don't see...
I think that we will see a pick or picks coming back to us in a Carr deal to Oakland.
Hulk is pretty sure that there is one all but signed just pending us getting a veteran QB to start ie Schaub. (from the Carr to Oakland thread)
Schaub, a restricted free agent
Should the deal go through, as is expected, the Falcons would move up two notches to No. 8 in this April's NFL draft and receive Houston's second-round draft pick in each of the next two seasons.
Are you f-ing kidding me? Am I the only one here who thinks this move is idiotic? Even Charley Casserly is laughing at this! Your second round picks make or break your team and we gave up 2 of them? We of all people should know that by now. Have the past 5 years taught us nothing?
I love the way we justify this crap decision by saying we just gave up Jabar Gaffney plus Tony Hollins. This should go without saying, but I guess I have to spell it out "Tony Hollins isn't what you should expect with a second round pick!" If it is, you have resigned yourself to losing for all eternity. We just gave up Demeco Ryans and Charles Spencer. Now how does that taste?
I can't wait to see Adrian Peterson or LaRon Landry available at the 8th spot. That will be a special feeling when they get taken.
Here's another one I love to hear. "If we get a second round pick for Carr, we only gave up one pick". First of all we're not getting a second round pick for Carr. Second of all, even if we did it doesn't make up for this stupid move!
The more pressing question is why are we trading away picks - going against our statements that we need more picks to fill holes?
to my knowledge, we've had 5 2nd round picks...and 4 of them have stunk. Lets not overreact
Tony Hollings
Phillip Buchanon
Jabar Gaffney
Bennie Joppru
I think the main thing here is this is Kubiak's guy now. Not someone he inherited after taking over. It'll be interesting to see what Kubiak can do with a QB that he brought in himself.
You're making my point for me.
Do you not see the connection between the wasted second round picks and the 5 consecutive losing seasons?
That's what kills me about this move. I'm so disappointed in Rick Smith I could choke him! This move set us back a couple of more years.
spencer was a 3rd
to my knowledge, we've had 5 2nd round picks...and 4 of them have stunk. Lets not overreact
Tony Hollings
Phillip Buchanon
Jabar Gaffney
Bennie Joppru
i think it would be fair to call demeco the exception rather than the rule.
Many might disagree, but looking at the Texans moves this offseason has put me in mind of the 2003 Panthers.
The Panthers had drafted a young defensive end they year before, already had a quality young linebacker for their defense. It should be noted they arguably had better talent on defense ( and overall for that matter) that these current Texans, but there might be a comparison to be made.
In 2003, the Panthers had a second year head coach, John Fox. And on offense they made a couple of notable moves. One they acquired a highly thought of backup QB. Sure the Texans "paid" more for Schaub than the Panthers did for Delhomme, but I think Schaub has more upside. Secondly, signed a former Pro Bowl running back. Lastly, they picked 10th in that year's draft, a pick they used on an offensive tackle: Jordan Gross.
So, in following the Panther model, the Texans are only lacking a rookie offensive tackle. Of course, we could consider that "rookie" to be Charles Spencer, presuming he comes back, since he only played what 3 games last season.
Alyways look for the bright side when it comes to a losing team trying to climb out of the cellar.
Texans in '07!!
Chester Pitts
I am; however, in favor of this move. I do hate to give up those picks...
How do you know this stuff??
I have a question? Does this remind anyone of what happend to Steve Young in Tampa. First, he set NFL records for being sacked(until David Carr) he was replaced through a trade and summarily cut. (like David Carr) He then went to a better team with an O-line and the right system and well the rest is history. David Carr will most likely be cut, He then can sign with the team of his choice(according to NFL network Minnesota). Imagine DC in a Viking jersey protected by Hutchinson and a very good line in a bad division. HMMmm stop me if you have heard that one before.(Young, Favre) Oh and speaking of Favre. Are we texan fans praying that this deal is a repeat of that one? Or is it AJ Feely x 10? I for one believe that lightning strikes twice, and I am hoping it is not elsewhere. however being a houston football fan since i was a kid( Oilers now Texans) I can say my hope in Schaub being another Favre or Brady is low.
Go Texans, the cowboy fans(bandwagonners) have what they want now. May God have mercy on us all ,please do not let us see David Carr in the superbowl for the Vikings.
Shaub is a big, tall kid with an arm that can make every single pass in the book, looks very good while under pressure and has enogh good footwork to slide in the pocket and get his passes off. He doesn't seem to panic at all and the game doesn't look too big for him.
Until he's sacked a couple of hundred times and he starts looking just like Carr. Fix the freaking O-line then worry about bringing in another QB. 2 more 2nd round draft picks have just been wasted.
Until he's sacked a couple of hundred times and he starts looking just like Carr. Fix the freaking O-line then worry about bringing in another QB. 2 more 2nd round draft picks have just been wasted.
Until he's sacked a couple of hundred times and he starts looking just like Carr. Fix the freaking O-line then worry about bringing in another QB. 2 more 2nd round draft picks have just been wasted.
I'm sorry, but I don't know how to link a site, but on 2007 scout.com under Free Agents, Matt Schaub is the only QB with a 5 star rating. The second place QB is Jeff Garcia with a 3 star rating. There are a few 2 star rated QB's, and the rest are 1 star. (For what it's worth)
If someone will tell me how to link, I will be happy to do it.
I'm sorry, but I don't know how to link a site, but on 2007 scout.com under Free Agents, Matt Schaub is the only QB with a 5 star rating. The second place QB is Jeff Garcia with a 3 star rating. There are a few 2 star rated QB's, and the rest are 1 star. (For what it's worth)
If someone will tell me how to link, I will be happy to do it.