What difference does WR make if you don't have someone better than Ryan freakin Mallet throwing to them? Besides its a little early to start freaking out that we don't have TWO top WRs don't you think?
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Texans 2015 Free Agency
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What difference does WR make if you don't have someone better than Ryan freakin Mallet throwing to them? Besides its a little early to start freaking out that we don't have TWO top WRs don't you think?
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
We have no idea whether someone better than Ryan freakin' Mallett is needed. Dude has 1 healthy start. It's all a gamble on potential with him. But at least there is potential.
Wolf
100% Texan
Let's be realistic here on what's available
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/quarterback/
Here is the free agent list.
Who would you want if not mallet?
(not counting the draft)
Who would you think Bob would think that could run the atyle that hewants to run?
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/quarterback/
Here is the free agent list.
Who would you want if not mallet?
(not counting the draft)
Who would you think Bob would think that could run the atyle that hewants to run?
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
Hartline.
PapaL
Loose Screw
I'm of the mind that Hoyer is plan B in case Mallet bolts for Broadway. He also knows the system and would be a decent (man, it hurt to type that) fall back if Mallet won't sign with us.
Goldensilence
hipster elite
Most of what's out there in FA QB market is known and it's really not that appealing. Mallet easily makes the most sense from a standpoint of knowing the system and unknown if he's a long term answer or not.
The only other option would be trading for a backup or a young QB prospect that's on someone's roster right now. Currently no one is jumping out in my mind that would be a realistic trade option.
Crabtree is a thug. Will not be here..
I haven't heard this, do you have inside knowledge or is this JYO?
texan279
Hall of Fame
Um. Care to elaborate?
Thats my point. I don't understand wanting to put WEAPONS around a young unproven QB. You go that route and you are putting all the pressure on him to carry the team.
It would be different if we were trading for Drew Brees. Then yes he is capable of carrying a team with his experience and developed skills. You give him the weapons and let him use them with his PROVEN abilities.
The reason Seattle and SF were able to have success with young inexperienced QB's is because they both had strong running games and stout defenses. Notice how Kapernick starting looking not so good when the running game went south and the defense suffered injuries?
Mallet or any other young inexperienced QB is going to struggle if he is the expected to do anything more than manage the team early on. You would think Houston fans would know this from the early days of this franchise.
We should of never drafted a QB and forced him to start before the team was able to take the pressure off of him. For all the hate Carr still gets around here, he was put in a losing situation from the beginning.
PHILLYTEXANFAN
Saddle Up Partner
On your last paragraph, I 100% believe that and have been saying that for years
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
Don't know if you saw the last post that Icak had to "moderate".
Personally I would have used the sledge hammer.
Icak and myself had a running disagreement for days lately and not once tried to use his mod status to control any exchange of ideas.
He is one of the precious GOOD moderators as you call them.
Disagreeing with you (generic) does not make a person a bad moderator.
Even if / when they are wrong.
If I had to choose, I'd much rather have my young QB throwing the ball to Andre Johnson & DeAndre Hopkins, than Torrey Smith & Jacoby Jones. Throwing at the first two, he doesn't need to be too accurate. Just get the ball in the vicinity & those receivers will "go get" the ball. The latter, you could hit them right in the hands & still suffer low completion percentages.
& there's a difference between young & unproven, ala Tom Savage, & young & unproven like Ryan Mallett. George Godsey has worked with the kid for more than four years now. They know what he is capable of & should be trying to do what needs to be done to help him.
Don't know if you saw the last post that Icak had to "moderate".
Personally I would have used the sledge hammer.
Icak and myself had a running disagreement for days lately and not once tried to use his mod status to control any exchange of ideas.
He is one of the precious GOOD moderators as you call them.
Disagreeing with you (generic) does not make a person a bad moderator.
Even if / when they are wrong.
Agreed,
I really respect the job Cak does and we disagree on most things. LOL
Actually we already have Hopkins so you don't have to worry about throwing to Smith and Jones. The point is (and its been proven over and over) that you will have more success building from inside out than outside in. Especially with a young QB.
Actually, we're a QB away from winning, consistently winning in this league. A good to great OL, #1 & #2 receivers, good to great RB.... We weren't in a position where we had to start all over, but for whatever reason it looks like that's where we want to be.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
Thats kind of how i have viewed this off season thus far, lets dismantle the offense that works so well even with a scrub QB
Makes no sense
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Yeah, until we know that we've got a QB that can really pass it around, I don't see the value in investing large dollars in the WR position. I think what we have for now is good as long as we draft a receiver or two in the first 4 rounds. I don't think waiting for next season to spend more on a WR is a bad idea. Hopefully we'll have our QB situation figured out by that time and we can strategize on getting a lot more talent. People forget that in this offense, we can look to find a super stud TE that can put up receiver numbers as well. Not sure where we are going to find that TE at the moment though.
In the meanwhile we can really stack our defense and make them one of the best teams in the league. Make that unit completely nasty along with our Oline and run the ball. Eventually we can find a QB that we intend on keeping and we'll have the majority of the team in place. I think that is the best method we'll have to stay on until we find our guy unfortunately.
I would assume this is only if they don't resign Reed? Or is there room for both, with one moving inside?
Pretty sure Da'Quan would be a 5-tech.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
ok thanks... I thought I read they were looking at him for OLB
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
I don't recall, and it could be I'm all confused. But if anywhere it was one of those places like bleacher report that called him a replacement for Reed. My memory sux tho so...
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
Not a good team mate. Not Texan worthy.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
I don't think that person is available. Do you have any REASONABLE alternatives?
sandman
Brexit Advisor
What? You don't surround a young developing QB with a stud RB and stud WR's... because that just makes his job harder?
like fitz or keenum better?
According to the link that TK posted earlier in the Mallett thread, we have him locked up also. Makes for a much stronger QB group than we had last year
yeah I saw that... no getting the jump on the Texans
STEEL BLUE TEXANS
Hall of Fame
2 yr/7 mil deal for Mallett. Hoyer 3 yr deal, more money per year.
What? You don't surround a young developing QB with a stud RB and stud WR's... because that just makes his job harder?
It's more important to put a really good OL and have a really good running game (RB) with a really good defense than to put weapons on the outside that he isn't capable of using.
Yep basically he's getting Fitz's money.
No, but we don't even have that in cap room without restructuring or releasing someone. And supposedly they still want to resign Reed
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Hey, how about that Demaris signing?
$3.25.
Not sure why we wouldn't have already made any move on JJo if there were going to be one.
Yes they can axe Graham at any time and gain another $3.25.
$3.25.
Not sure why we wouldn't have already made any move on JJo if there were going to be one.
Yes they can axe Graham at any time and gain another $3.25.
sandman
Brexit Advisor
It's more important to put a really good OL and have a really good running game (RB) with a really good defense than to put weapons on the outside that he isn't capable of using.
And what of those three things haven't the Texans attained/addressed at this point?
really good OL - Texans were one of the best running teams and had one of the fewest sack totals.
really good running game - see above. And Foster.
really good defense - finished top 10 against the run and points allowed. Completely dominated in second half of season. Already one key resigning. And JJ Watt.
And why would Mallett not be capable of using two good outside receivers? Arm strength? Knowledge about the system? Experience in the system?