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steelbtexan said:
Stud, the thought of Watt and Shelton on the DL = Domination.

Not going to be there at 16. IMHO
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Not sure there is another defensive player in this draft that would make as big an impact as Shelton. Not that we have a chance at anyway. Think our run defense would be any better if we drafted Shelton and Nix came back and lived up to his potential?
 
From the little I've seen of Danny Shelton, YouTube and today at the Senior Bowl workouts, this guy's a beast. I think he'd be good in year 1, but would be great/dominant after that. He and JJ on the same D-line would almost be unfair as long as we had adequate LB's to set the edge.
 
So are we all throwing in the towel on Nix with 1 extremely incomplete season? I hardly think that's fair. Give the guy a shot to play here before we start using more picks on the DLine when the DLine was probably one of the biggest strengths of this team.

I realize we gotta replace Crick, but that is not the same position as Shelton.

Many people stood on top of tables screaming about Watt pairing with Clowney last year while we passed on most of our other need positions. I think this is the year to start addressing positions of greatest need.

But at the same time, who am I, if BoB is scheduling visits then obviously it's being considered even if it is unrealistic to expect him to slide to #16.
 
TexansFTW said:
So are we all throwing in the towel on Nix with 1 extremely incomplete season?
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No, you need a rotation. Powe underperformed and Pickett has played over 200 games. Not saying we draft a NT, but if he's BPA and we didn't get a FA...
 
Not a specific player, but...

Jeff Risdon ‏@JeffRisdon
Texans have now spent post-practice two days in a row with the punters
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Lechlar seemed to fall off at the end last year, and finished middle of the pack PFF ratings for the first time in forever.
 
TexansFTW said:
So are we all throwing in the towel on Nix with 1 extremely incomplete season? I hardly think that's fair. Give the guy a shot to play here before we start using more picks on the DLine when the DLine was probably one of the biggest strengths of this team.

I realize we gotta replace Crick, but that is not the same position as Shelton.

Many people stood on top of tables screaming about Watt pairing with Clowney last year while we passed on most of our other need positions. I think this is the year to start addressing positions of greatest need.

But at the same time, who am I, if BoB is scheduling visits then obviously it's being considered even if it is unrealistic to expect him to slide to #16.
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Crick is signed thru next season and if he produces like 2014 he will get new contract in '16
 
Playoffs said:
Not a specific player, but...

Jeff Risdon ‏@JeffRisdon


Lechlar seemed to fall off at the end last year, and finished middle of the pack PFF ratings for the first time in forever.
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my sources tell me that Lechler's planting leg fell off and Texans' doctors duct taped it back on and sent him out.
 
Playoffs said:
Not a specific player, but...

Jeff Risdon ‏@JeffRisdon


Lechlar seemed to fall off at the end last year, and finished middle of the pack PFF ratings for the first time in forever.
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Lechler fell off for several games while dealing with a groin injury. He returned to form later in the season.
 
MistaRed said:
Texans have met with Miami WR Phillip Dorsett and Ohio State WR Devin Smith.

http://hou.scout.com/story/1504645-devin-smith-on-the-texans-radar-at-sr-bowl?s=116

http://hou.scout.com/story/1504643-texans-keeping-tabs-on-phillip-dorsett?s=116
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PDS ‏@PatDStat
Quarterback Garrett Grayson meets with #Texans at the Senior Bowl. http://hou.scout.com/story/1504638-texans-meet-with-garrett-grayson-at-sr-bowl?s=116 … #NFL #ColoradoState #Rams
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TexansFTW said:
So are we all throwing in the towel on Nix with 1 extremely incomplete season? I hardly think that's fair. Give the guy a shot to play here before we start using more picks on the DLine when the DLine was probably one of the biggest strengths of this team.

I realize we gotta replace Crick, but that is not the same position as Shelton.

Many people stood on top of tables screaming about Watt pairing with Clowney last year while we passed on most of our other need positions. I think this is the year to start addressing positions of greatest need.

But at the same time, who am I, if BoB is scheduling visits then obviously it's being considered even if it is unrealistic to expect him to slide to #16.
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So do you want to go all in on a guy with one extremely incomplete season? Who cares if it's fair? We were not good at stopping the run last year. That is a weakness that needs to be addressed. Obviously we aren't going to have an elite QB anytime soon. The next best way to win is to dominate the trenches. Having a stud NT who actually has pass rushing ability is a good step in that direction.

Not sure how you think DLine was a strength. Even so Nix is basically an unknown, Powell was a big disappointment and Picket is way up there in age and a FA.

As much as fans want teams to draft for needs it seldom happens.
 
TexansFTW said:
So are we all throwing in the towel on Nix with 1 extremely incomplete season? I hardly think that's fair. Give the guy a shot to play here before we start using more picks on the DLine when the DLine was probably one of the biggest strengths of this team.

I realize we gotta replace Crick, but that is not the same position as Shelton.

Many people stood on top of tables screaming about Watt pairing with Clowney last year while we passed on most of our other need positions. I think this is the year to start addressing positions of greatest need.

But at the same time, who am I, if BoB is scheduling visits then obviously it's being considered even if it is unrealistic to expect him to slide to #16.
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Ok so unlike Clowney, Nix already had an established injury history and conditioning issues while in college at Nd I believe, so all you guys who like to bust Rick Smith for his Draft-Day decisions maybe Nix is an example of that ?
Of course we only invested a 3rd round pick on Nix as I recall, but then those 2 third round picks on Sam M. & Brennan Williams from the previous year, that adds up so that's 3 third round picks all which should have appeared to be of dubious value and very risky.
 
I'm not throwing in the towel on Nix yet, but I think Shelton is a better talent regardless. Drafting him wouldn't prevent you from playing them both though. Shelton is athletic enough and talented enough to shift out to DE in a 3-man front.

Once again, I go back to my favorite team model the Baltimore Ravens. They had Haloti Ngata and Brandon Williams on the roster and still drafted Timmy Jernigan in the 1st round last year. They rotate Ngata and Williams at NT and Ngata and Jernigan at DE to keep all 3 guys fresh.

In this scenario we could do something similar with Nix/Powe rotating with Shelton at NT and Crick rotating with Shelton at DE.
 
WolverineFan said:
I'm not throwing in the towel on Nix yet, but I think Shelton is a better talent regardless. Drafting him wouldn't prevent you from playing them both though. Shelton is athletic enough and talented enough to shift out to DE in a 3-man front.

Once again, I go back to my favorite team model the Baltimore Ravens. They had Haloti Ngata and Brandon Williams on the roster and still drafted Timmy Jernigan in the 1st round last year. They rotate Ngata and Williams at NT and Ngata and Jernigan at DE to keep all 3 guys fresh.

In this scenario we could do something similar with Nix/Powe rotating with Shelton at NT and Crick rotating with Shelton at DE.
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I agree with this but also think Shelton is off the board when Texans select.
 
mussop said:
So do you want to go all in on a guy with one extremely incomplete season? Who cares if it's fair? We were not good at stopping the run last year. That is a weakness that needs to be addressed. Obviously we aren't going to have an elite QB anytime soon. The next best way to win is to dominate the trenches. Having a stud NT who actually has pass rushing ability is a good step in that direction.

Not sure how you think DLine was a strength. Even so Nix is basically an unknown, Powell was a big disappointment and Picket is way up there in age and a FA.

As much as fans want teams to draft for needs it seldom happens.
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Of course Jerrell Powe was a disappointment. He was a washed up street free agent. I don't think any of us expected much of him, but to be a stop gap while we addressed the position.

If you don't think DLine was a strength of this football team then tell me what was a strength on this football team? Secondary? Linebackers? OLine? QB? Receivers? TE? And let's leave out RB cause Arian is not a part of the long term solutions of this football team. Of all those units on the football team, yeah, I believe it was the strength of this football team. I'm not saying it's the greatest DLine of all time, but I'm saying by comparison I think it's the best unit on this team.

YOUR next best way is to dominate in the trenches, that is YOUR hypothesis, not mine. Do I want it elite? Obviously. But I want every unit grouping elite, and with modern salary cap NFL and the $$ already committed to the Animal known as 99, we have to start raising up the other unit groups cause not every single position can be elite, something's gotta give.

You can't commit all that money to Watt, then commit all that money to Clowney, then commit all this money to Shelton (or whatever high draft pick DT), cause after a while you have a shoot ton sunk into this DLine, (Clowney as DLine is debatable I know) cause then you have Jerrell Powe's playing CB, Safety, WR, RB, and QB.

This team has holes, I'm sure we can all agree, but if you try and fail addressing the position year in and year out while leaving everything else untouched you become the Detroit Lions. 10/13 top 10 picks and you peak at a one and done playoff performance (haven't won a playoff game in over 20 years) before you have to start dismantling the team and your key contributors are lost to age (ineffectiveness), retirement, or other teams $$.
 
mussop said:
So do you want to go all in on a guy with one extremely incomplete season? Who cares if it's fair? We were not good at stopping the run last year. That is a weakness that needs to be addressed. Obviously we aren't going to have an elite QB anytime soon. The next best way to win is to dominate the trenches. Having a stud NT who actually has pass rushing ability is a good step in that direction.

Not sure how you think DLine was a strength. Even so Nix is basically an unknown, Powell was a big disappointment and Picket is way up there in age and a FA.

As much as fans want teams to draft for needs it seldom happens.
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All teams draft for needs. If they didn't they'd rarely fill the "holes" in their rosters. Most teams draft BPA at a position of need!
 
TexansFTW said:
Of course Jerrell Powe was a disappointment. He was a washed up street free agent. I don't think any of us expected much of him, but to be a stop gap while we addressed the position.

If you don't think DLine was a strength of this football team then tell me what was a strength on this football team? Secondary? Linebackers? OLine? QB? Receivers? TE? And let's leave out RB cause Arian is not a part of the long term solutions of this football team. Of all those units on the football team, yeah, I believe it was the strength of this football team. I'm not saying it's the greatest DLine of all time, but I'm saying by comparison I think it's the best unit on this team.

YOUR next best way is to dominate in the trenches, that is YOUR hypothesis, not mine. Do I want it elite? Obviously. But I want every unit grouping elite, and with modern salary cap NFL and the $$ already committed to the Animal known as 99, we have to start raising up the other unit groups cause not every single position can be elite, something's gotta give.

You can't commit all that money to Watt, then commit all that money to Clowney, then commit all this money to Shelton (or whatever high draft pick DT), cause after a while you have a shoot ton sunk into this DLine, (Clowney as DLine is debatable I know) cause then you have Jerrell Powe's playing CB, Safety, WR, RB, and QB.

This team has holes, I'm sure we can all agree, but if you try and fail addressing the position year in and year out while leaving everything else untouched you become the Detroit Lions. 10/13 top 10 picks and you peak at a one and done playoff performance (haven't won a playoff game in over 20 years) before you have to start dismantling the team and your key contributors are lost to age (ineffectiveness), retirement, or other teams $$.
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None of the units on the team was a strength...

We need improvement in all areas, mainly speed and impact. Right now you have to get best available regardless of position. If Shelton is there AND no one else is on your board of the same tier, you grab him and say thanks!
 
Insideop said:
All teams draft for needs. If they didn't they'd rarely fill the "holes" in their rosters. Most teams draft BPA at a position of need!
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It seems like I have had this conversation every year for the last 10 years. I agree with what you said to an extent. However teams do NOT draft just to fill needs. No team says, these are our 7 biggest needs and then draft for those positions. just doesn't happen.
 
mussop said:
It seems like I have had this conversation every year for the last 10 years. I agree with what you said to an extent. However teams do NOT draft just to fill needs. No team says, these are our 7 biggest needs and then draft for those positions. just doesn't happen.
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what is bpa? only an educated guess in a moment of time. need is more tangible & measured. so one should lean more heavily on need to identify player who will have biggest impact. All things considered, Shelton would have huge impact starting nose day one, IMO, if still there but something tells me he won't be? next biggest impact, doubt a rookie CB or OT, don't get me wrong both worthy & probably graded out bpa (Trae Waynes / La'el Collins) would make as big of impact but what about borderline 1st rd. picks Carl Davis (nose guard) or Denzel Perryman (ILB) either who would start & have bigger immediate impact in process of becoming foundation pieces themselves. Long way around of making point bpa & need have to align at some point.
 
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JB said:
None of the units on the team was a strength...
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TexansFTW said:
I'm not saying it's the greatest DLine of all time, but I'm saying by comparison I think it's the best unit on this team.
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Regardless of how we got there, we achieved 9 wins. In comparison with the other position groupings, I consider it a strength of the Houston Texans and was key to achieving 9 wins.
 
mussop said:
Not sure there is another defensive player in this draft that would make as big an impact as Shelton. Not that we have a chance at anyway. Think our run defense would be any better if we drafted Shelton and Nix came back and lived up to his potential?
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Vic Beasley is my choice. The Texans must prepare as if clowney will never comeback. Beasley has been consistent in college and has excellent cod. They need another rusher.
 
Houston Texans...
Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami (Fla.) (SR)
Garrett Grayson, QB, Colorado State (SR)
Danny Shelton, DT/NT, Washington (SR)
Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State (SR%)
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Nate Orchard, Utah DE (self-reported met with all 32 teams.)
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Damian Swann, Cornerback, Georgia (5-11, 180 lbs.)
Parrish Gaines, Safety, Navy (6-2, 200 lbs.)
Craig Mager, Cornerback, Texas State (5-11, 190 lbs.)
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http://hou.scout.com/story/1504321-texans-news-and-notes-the-offseason-begins
 
I really like Craig Mager as a Day 3 CB depth pick. If the Texans re-sign Kareem and draft this kid, this might be the deepest the Texans have ever been at the CB position. Plus it would be funny/cool if the Texans had two corners from Texas State on their roster.
 
Up to 60 allowed...

Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli
Southeastern Louisiana QB Bryan Bennett is intriguing. Lost job to Mariota at Oregon. Has met with George Godsey here. #Texans
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Deepi Sidhu ‏@DeepSlant
Iowa OT Andrew Donnal met with #Texans yesterday. O'Brien, Iowa o-line coach Brian Ferentz both worked under Belichick at NE. #NFLCombine
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LZ really likes Donnal.
Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli
Duke OT Takoby Cofield met at length with #Texans o-line coach last night, he said. They were intent on learning his football IQ.
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Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli
Utah G/T Jeremiah Poutasi met with the #Texans just like every guy I've asked today except one who hadn't met with anyone yet. #Texans
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We like this guy.
 
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WolverineFan said:
I'm not throwing in the towel on Nix yet, but I think Shelton is a better talent regardless. Drafting him wouldn't prevent you from playing them both though. Shelton is athletic enough and talented enough to shift out to DE in a 3-man front.

Once again, I go back to my favorite team model the Baltimore Ravens. They had Haloti Ngata and Brandon Williams on the roster and still drafted Timmy Jernigan in the 1st round last year. They rotate Ngata and Williams at NT and Ngata and Jernigan at DE to keep all 3 guys fresh.

In this scenario we could do something similar with Nix/Powe rotating with Shelton at NT and Crick rotating with Shelton at DE.
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Now that's a plan!!
 
John McClain @McClain_on_NFL
Texans are meeting with most of top prospects at what are or could be need positions: QB, CB, DL, DB and anyone who can rush the passer.
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Well, that pretty much covers it huh? Okay, then.

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Playoffs said:
John McClain @McClain_on_NFL


Well, that pretty much covers it huh? Okay, then.

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I don't know why so many (like McLain) talk to the lowest football IQ person that may read them instead of the average. They come across as tools.
 
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