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Texans: Derek Stingley Jr.
- Thread starter AcresHomesTexan
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Would be interesting to know if they would have taken Cross at 13 if he was available
Texian
Hall of Fame
Sauce made the Pro Bowl.
Shame Lovie didn't pick him
Ok it still doesn't mean Stingley can't be a really good player and I didn't like the pick.
Lovie screwed this one up.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
I heard that on a podcast yesterday. And 1 of the 3 hosts said he didn’t look like a stud last year. They all agreed that that he was not so great and hope he comes around this year.
texanhead08
All Pro
Gotta stay on the field to be great
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Nothing unusual...........Veterans talking up youngsters.............Ward talking up Stingley and Shaq Mason talking up Green. It is to be seen if their performance this season can come up anywhere close to the level of their PR.
Houston needs Stingley to be an NFL ALL PRO CB. That's why he was the #3 pick. Hopefully he will remain healthy and we a GREAT corner in 23'.
Texansballer74
The Marine
No player is a bust after one season. Lol come on man.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
When he starts playing like a 1.3 pick, then he will no longer be a bust. Hopefully it's just a temporary title he's earned. In the meantime, he's a bust until he isn't.
His play is ok, should be solid this year.
My question and the reason we should have drafted Sauce is can he stay healthy
Texansballer74
The Marine
ArmyBengal
Retired Army Medical NCO
Josh Rosen would like to have a word with you.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
Been hearing and seeing (2 or 3 photos) that while recovering from his injury, Stingley has put on around 10-15lbs of muscle. And has not lost any speed or agility. Trying to find a good before (last year at this time) and after (this year). Sadly, so far typical searches are pulling up last season only now. The picture I saw of this year, you are clearly able to see he looks bigger in the arms and legs. Hard to tell anything past that with jerseys and stuff on. Anyone else hear or have comparison pictures please post them.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Two post ahead of yours. Posted it on yesterday
Vernon Gholston says hi.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
While all of that is true, it doesn't change the fact that he hasn't had a fully healthy season since 2019. I don't think that's a gamble you take with the 3rd overall pick. Sure, it all goes away IF he's healthy and becomes an All Pro, or even Pro Bowl, but right on cue he's already missed 8 games of his rookie season. Of the last 40 games teams he's been on have played (LSU & Texans) he's missed 21 of those games. You've got to be great at staying on the field before you can be great at anything else.
Agreed. Let's hope Derek can remain healthy and be a really good CB.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
Heard a report that Stingley bulked up from 190 to around 205 to 210 with no loss of speed or movement. That will help him put some good hits on some stronger WRs. Have yet to hear 100% what he weighs. But just looking at pictures he is no question thicker in his lower body for certain.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
I wonder if that would add more weight to that lisfranc foot or alleviate any pressure on the foot.
One would think more body weight would be more weight in the foot but would the added muscle in other areas help compensate?
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
From what I understand you are somewhat right. Added weight is going to put more stress on the foot. Now, CnD would know much more than me. But I think if not 100% healed it could be an issue to reinjury. I think it should be ok, you know that the medical team would have to clear him. And I am sure that he has been doing multiple tests to insure he is good to go.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
He should be 100% and he had to clear medical already. My concern is will an additional 20lbs landing on the foot cause any issues. From what I know of the injury, I would feel it could. More weight on same structure type thing. Hopefully, it won't be an issue. But I think it has already been said that a Lisfranc injury can no question cause issues later as well.
Texansballer74
The Marine
badboy
Hall of Fame
Have we ever had a eight interception cornerback? I think five is the highest. I hope this prediction is correct for Derek.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
Oddly enough Dunta Robinson's best season in the NFL was his rookie season. He had 6 interceptions.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
I don't know about 8 but in 2003 Marcus Coleman had 7 interceptions.
D-Rob ! One of my all-time Texans favs.
Small but mighty because he hit like a Mac truck.
banned1976
sleeper mode
I'm interested to know how the AI platform came up with this. I don't think quarterbacks are going to throw that much to Stingley's side. The most interceptions Darrelle Revis had in a season was 6. That was in his 3rd season. In his 4th season he had 0. He was still a 1st team All Pro that year.
Stingley Island?
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
They need to be put in the ring of honor.
Why?
Gotta prove he can stay healthy all season.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Two years of significant hamstring injuries. Avoiding lower extremity injuries will be challenging.
TheRealJoker V2
All Pro
“Hearing the buzz coming out of Texans camp this month, I couldn't help but get even more bullish in my view that Stingley's on the verge of a full breakout campaign. And then, watching the way he performed in last week's preseason game against the New York Giants -- deftly erasing talented rookie first-rounder Malik Nabers, among others, while also hauling in a nice interception -- I needed to write this take. The stage is set for Stingley to become a household name as a lockdown artist. Texans head coach DeMeco Ryans can pick and choose how to deploy his star corner based on matchups, and I can't wait to see how it plays out.”
Sting and Sauce will be in competition again this offseason to become the highest paid CB in the league. Both should climb above $100 million in total guaranteed $$$.
badboy
Hall of Fame
This season Stingley's ability to avoid injury will be significant in negotiating early. A great season and he will get that type of deal. The foot causing him to miss more than 3-4 games may cause Nick to be reluctant and negotiate after year 4; initiating club option for year 5.
Along with his play, having a weak Corner corps with someone to take his spot is to his advantage. Extending Derek will only lessen not eliminate drafting a corner day 2.
Yes, but that goes with any player. If Sauce were to have injuries in 2024, he would lose leverage in the offseason.
I hope 3-4 games in a 17 game season doesn't cause Nick to throw out all semblance of reason.
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Who's pinching pennies now? Remember, it would be an extension to Stingley. The big cap hits would be a couple of years away.
badboy
Hall of Fame
But Gardner did not have those. True every player with zero injuries has the chance of being hurt. However with a player that has a severe injury or repetitive injuries like Tytus Howard, cannot be evaluated the same as one with no injuries.