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Teddy Bridgewater

Wait, Google tells me Kollman said this about TB.

Everyone is a savant apparently.

Although maybe only the idiot variety post around here.
 
mussop said:
He is an intern. When he actually becomes a scout I will respond. And don't use knowledge and Kollmann in the same sentence. He's not worthy. Anyone can repeat crap they have read on the internet, it doesn't make them knowledgeable. Get Bent!
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htownfan32 said:
As others have said, and I think you will agree with this, he's not the best "football player" in general in the draft. Technique/talent combo wise there are guys who are much better than him but at his position he is thought to be the overall best, and since his position is the most important in the NFL...

That's the kind of thought process that really should be going through the FO's head while they mull over trading picks.
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If the FO goes with Teddy over Clowney, I think it will mostly have to do with his ability to run O'Brien's offense and that the ability to do so outweighs Clowney's ability and what it means.
 
Man I can't wait until the combine, so many questions will be answered including Teddy's true size/height/hands. He says himself he is 6"3, but a lot of people are saying he will measure in closer to 6"1.

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matts290 said:
Man I can't wait until the combine, so many questions will be answered including Teddy's true size/height/hands. He says himself he is 6"3, but a lot of people are saying he will measure in closer to 6"1.

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I think he's 6'3" while wearing 2" spikes...
 
matts290 said:
Man I can't wait until the combine, so many questions will be answered including Teddy's true size/height/hands. He says himself he is 6"3, but a lot of people are saying he will measure in closer to 6"1.

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Is he using an NCAA-size ball or an NFL one? I only ask because he's not wearing gloves here.

mussop said:
On how to occupy hours and hours of an idiot's time.
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This is actually kinda funny, though not intentionally on your part.
 
bhsman said:
This is actually kinda funny, though not intentionally on your part.
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Oh it was very intentional. And Yes it's funny how easily it was to keep you busy. You must have a serious man crush to get that upset and continue on like that.

So has the INTERN come out with any new "scouting reports" today?
 
mussop said:
Oh it was very intentional. And Yes it's funny how easily it was to keep you busy. You must have a serious man crush to get that upset and continue on like that.
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So has the INTERN come out with any new "scouting reports" today?
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Not yet, though he did an in-depth analysis of Clowney's 2013 game against Tennessee which is in the appropriate thread.
 
mussop said:
Oh it was very intentional. And Yes it's funny how easily it was to keep you busy. You must have a serious man crush to get that upset and continue on like that.

So has the INTERN come out with any new "scouting reports" today?
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Will you guys just **** already so this thread can move on?
 
mussop said:
Yeh but his OL won't be playing barefoot either so it does matter.
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If he's 6ft 3in in spikes that's adequate height for the position regardless of his OL playing barefoot or in spikes. Guys like Wilson and Brees seem to get by and they're shorter than 6ft 1in.
 
Dishman said:
If he's 6ft 3in in spikes that's adequate height for the position regardless of his OL playing barefoot or in spikes. Guys like Wilson and Brees seem to get by and they're shorter than 6ft 1in.
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I don't know if Teddy is that short, but part of Brees and Wilson's success is using the oline to create passing lanes so the height isn't a huge issue, though I will say that I always thought it was funny to see people, during the draft, worry about Wilson's ability to see over his linemen when Wisconsin had averaged out as tallest oline that year.
 
bhsman said:
I don't know if Teddy is that short, but part of Brees and Wilson's success is using the oline to create passing lanes so the height isn't a huge issue, though I will say that I always thought it was funny to see people, during the draft, worry about Wilson's ability to see over his linemen when Wisconsin had averaged out as tallest oline that year.
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Keenum and Manziel listed at 6 ft 1 in. Elway and Moon check in at 6ft 3in, Montana 6ft 2in.

I'm not totally discounting height, but as you can see, and noted, lacking prototypical height can be overcome.

By the way: Ryan Leaf 6ft 5in, JaMarcus Russell 6ft 6in. Prototypical height helped their draft value, but didn't cement their franchise QB status or NFL success.
 
I think he'll check in at a little over 6'2 and probably around 215 lbs. I think he played at about 195-200 this year, but the biggest criticism on him right now is size so you can bet his agent has him working with someone right now to put weight on.

I also don't believe that hand size is an issue with him. The guy wears gloves. So what. Peyton wore gloves last week and Brady tends to wear gloves an awful lot. Wearing gloves is not an indication of small hands. It's all just speculation at this point.
 
matts290 said:
Man I can't wait until the combine, so many questions will be answered including Teddy's true size/height/hands. He says himself he is 6"3, but a lot of people are saying he will measure in closer to 6"1.

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The real question, is size&wieght. In that picture, he looks pretty stout. 6'1" 205ish...... or 6'3" 215ish

The problem, for me is if he's 6'3" 205

Before Michael Vick was drafted some people were worried about his size. With his style of play, they didn't feel like he would be able to play a full season.

That's my concern with Bridgewater. Knowing what you know now, would you have drafted Vick with the #1 overall?

I know his playing style is different, but he was a solid 215. If Bridgewater measures 6'3" 205, or 210..... even sitting in the pocket I find it hard to see him playing 16 games a year in the big boys league.

Think David Carr, how many times he got hit. Dude kept getting back up, but that kind of toughness is rare. And three years in, he couldn't look downfield any more.
 
I'm not sure you want to mess around that much with his weight, it could affect his fluidity. Core strength, yes, ability to improve on his long ball, yes, but adding weight just to add it on to make him seem more prototypical an exercise wasted. I'm more interested in his forty compared to Manziel who we know is fast :firehair:
 
bhsman said:
Is he using an NCAA-size ball or an NFL one? I only ask because he's not wearing gloves here.
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i'd think i'd be kinda pointless to train for the combine/proday/personal workouts with teams, with an NCAA regulation size ball instead of an NFL one.
 
beerlover said:
I'm not sure you want to mess around that much with his weight, it could affect his fluidity. Core strength, yes, ability to improve on his long ball, yes, but adding weight just to add it on to make him seem more prototypical an exercise wasted. I'm more interested in his forty compared to Manziel who we know is fast :firehair:
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Never thought I'd see the day when a QB's 40 would be more important than his size.


Even Bridgewater's staunchest defender knows his effectiveness in the pocket is more important than what he can do outside the pocket; now & in the future. The ability to make plays outside the pocket is a plus & it's becoming more & more important, But I rarely ever want to see the guy cross the LOS.
 
If it all plays out where he's the pick and the main concern with our QB is his SIZE coming out of COLLEGE, I'd say we're in good shape.
 
thunderkyss said:
Never thought I'd see the day when a QB's 40 would be more important than his size.


Even Bridgewater's staunchest defender knows his effectiveness in the pocket is more important than what he can do outside the pocket; now & in the future. The ability to make plays outside the pocket is a plus & it's becoming more & more important, But I rarely ever want to see the guy cross the LOS.
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which is what Manziel does far more than Bridgewater. what I want to dispel is this notion that Teddy can't create outside the pocket when he has to with his legs while going through his progressions on the run. Face it, competition is the fuel of athletes we feed on. Luck does this a lot & crosses the line, only difference is he's a bigger guy :smiliepalm:
 
beerlover said:
which is what Manziel does far more than Bridgewater. what I want to dispel is this notion that Teddy can't create outside the pocket when he has to with his legs while going through his progressions on the run. Face it, competition is the fuel of athletes we feed on. Luck does this a lot & crosses the line, only difference is he's a bigger guy :smiliepalm:
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What's Luck's 40?


Irrelevant? Yes.
 
thunderkyss said:
Never thought I'd see the day when a QB's 40 would be more important than his size.


Even Bridgewater's staunchest defender knows his effectiveness in the pocket is more important than what he can do outside the pocket; now & in the future. The ability to make plays outside the pocket is a plus & it's becoming more & more important, But I rarely ever want to see the guy cross the LOS.
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Well you better get used to it. It's the way things are now. The rules are already there to protect the QB outside the pocket. I want a guy capable of making plays outside when things breakdown but smart enough to use the rules in his favor.
 
mussop said:
Well you better get used to it. It's the way things are now. The rules are already there to protect the QB outside the pocket. I want a guy capable of making plays outside when things breakdown but smart enough to use the rules in his favor.
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The only rule protecting the QB outside the pocket is the sliding rule. That's been in place for years. They're calling the hitting the player out of bounds thing rather liberally for QBs, but other than that, nothing special.

Injuries to Michael Vick & RG3 says we're pretty much in the same spot we've always been. Kaepernick, Wilson, & Luck are doing good right now, but I believe they are on borrowed time. IMO, they need to get better in the pocket quickly.... I doubt they can do it a third year in a row without suffering some sidelining injury.


Luck maybe not so much, because he doesn't run as often as the others, but he does run more than say a Tony Romo.
 
thunderkyss said:
Luck maybe not so much, because he doesn't run as often as the others, but he does run more than say an Aaron Rodgers, or even Tony Romo.
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Rodgers and Luck run with just about the exact same frequency. Romo hardly ever takes off passed the LOS, he does move around behind it a lot though. If you go off how much all three ran in college, I think it safe to say Teddy will average about the same amount of rushing attempts as Rodgers and Luck do in the NFL. He will probably have a similar 40 time of both of these guys as well. Luck is significantly bigger than Teddy and Rodgers though, which makes his 4.6 time pretty impressive.
 
thunderkyss said:
The only rule protecting the QB outside the pocket is the sliding rule. That's been in place for years. They're calling the hitting the player out of bounds thing rather liberally for QBs, but other than .
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Once you are outside the tackle you can throw the ball away. It just has to be beyond the LOS. It doesn't matter if it's in the stands.
 
40 times are used to measure quick twitch and explosion moreso than just speed. In regards to bridgewater, he'll probably run 4.6 ish like rodgers,luck,cam, and those types. Its not like he will be running thatg option stuff,its moreso he can get away from a de closing from a standstill. 3 cone,short shuttle measures quickness which is just as good as stgraight line speed. Boldin ran a 4.7, but he had the quickest shuttle and 3 cone. That's why why he got open a lot.
 
Marshall said:
Nope. I'm going with the hard stuff. Grape juice.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/co...e-coolest-thing-hes-done-with-the-heisman.ece
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IOTW you got nothing and embellished on an untested hope by a player:

On his 40-yard dash time:
I’m not sure. I have not run a 40 probably in a year and a half or so. But I think I could run around a… I couldn’t run anything like what [Ryan] Swope ran [at the NFL Combine], but I would hope around a 4.5. Somewhere in there would be nice.
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Jake L ‏@Jake_TSV 36m

For those who were telling me Teddy Bridgewater is super polished earlier today, check out his game against UH http://youtu.be/IQKN-F6fk6I
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Everyone has off games, but Teddy showed poor accuracy beyond 20 yards, fell away from his throw a la Bortles, and threw into coverage.

Jake L ‏@Jake_TSV 32m

I bring that up not to crap on Bridgewater (I actually like him a lot), but rather to dispel twitter group think. He is not a sure thing.
 
infantrycak said:
IOTW you got nothing and embellished on an untested hope by a player:
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I used what I remembered, I was .05 off, but followed it with:
If he's slower than anticipated, he might not be as effective in the pros. He doesn't have it all, but neither do the big backs.
So what's your problem? Is this not true? Or do you just not want to hear anything remotely positive about Manziel?

Remember, I want to trade down. I'm not a fan of any of the QBs.
 
htownfan32 said:
Rodgers is 6'2 225 right now. I suppose because of that height and weight he's automatically not elite.
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I think you're overestimating the importance of weight. While it is important when projecting a players future success & longevity it is not the sole determination.

At 6'2" 225 lbs I would feel fairly confident that Rodgers would be able to take the beating an NFL QB will take. His height is of some concern, he will have difficulty finding passing lanes, or just being able to see routes develop closer to the LOS... however, in hindsight we know he is capable of performing well, very well in the pocket.
 
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