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Super Bowl XLIV: New Orleans Saints vs. Indianapolis Colts

Who will win?

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I'm pulling for the COLTS because I HATE the Saints!!!!! To me that's reason enough.

Any one on this board remember ELLE?????? She's reason enough to hate the Saints!! THANK YOU VINNY AND MODS for getting her off this board!! I, for one, would not be here if she was still on.
 
m5kwatts said:
So Texans fans SHOULD be rooting for the Colts so others can feel our pain and realize how tough it is to beat Manning.
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What? Why do you want everyone else to feel our pain? We had our chances to beat Manning and the coaching went to crap. When we got the lead. Plus, our kickers missed... I think we'll do it next year, though.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
What? Why do you want everyone else to feel our pain? We had our chances to beat Manning and the coaching went to crap. When we got the lead. Plus, our kickers missed... I think we'll do it next year, though.
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I think we'll do it next year too, I want other people to feel our pain so it won't hurt as much when I recall our games this year. Its much easier to justify the losses if I can tell myself "eh they won the Super Bowl." Just me?
 
Here are some thougts I have on the game. First, the Saints would be such a feel good story if they were to win the SB. They should attack the one Colts weakness their secondary and Drew has both the arm and the wideouts to do just that. N.O. has the 25th ranked D in the league everyone says, their D bends but does not break well, just remember with Manning at the helm it does not take much for him to turning just a bending D into one that breaks as is the case with almost every D he sets his eyes on. He will be the greatest QB of all time by the time he retires IMO. A largely suffering Indy running game should be exsposed by N.O. though there were some good sings being shown in the AFC C.G. Dallas C. and Reggie Wayne have to be slowed down because they just are not going to be stopped for the whole game. Try and slow down both of them ok, that just means more passes thrown to Austin C. and rookie WR P.G. Everything points to an Indy win on paper but this is the NFL where anything might happen on any given Sunday. For me, though I am just hoping for an all out good hard mouth slobber knocker of a football game and I am sure it will be that way no matter who wins at least I hope so. Also, I would not mind seeing Drew win a ring at all. I have said that before I know.
 
Townshend, 63, was arrested in England in a 2003 roundup of alleged pedophiles accused of cruising online sites for photos of child sex. Townshend said he was just doing research for a book at the time. He wasn’t convicted of anything but was placed on that country’s list of sexual offenders for five years.
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http://www.page2live.com/2010/01/27...the-whos-pete-townshend/?cxtype=rss_news_1620

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Just because she says she's 18 doesn't mean it's true.

I hope Pete...*puts on sunglasses* won't get fooled again. YEAAAHHH!!!
 
The Aints ain't winning a Super Bowl.

The Colts defense is good enough to slow the Saints offense. Thier offense (Saints) had alot of help from Lady Luck this year.

If they blitz Manning like they did Favre, he will slice and dice.
 
DBCooper said:
The Aints ain't winning a Super Bowl.

The Colts defense is good enough to slow the Saints offense. Thier offense (Saints) had alot of help from Lady Luck this year.

If they blitz Manning like they did Favre, he will slice and dice.
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I don't think the Colts defense is good enough to stop the Saints defense. In the playoffs, they only had to play teams with strong running games and suspect passing games. They could load up in the box and not be hurt. They load the box against the Saints and Drew Brees will light them up. This will be the most balanced offense that the Colts defense has faced all season.

The Saints defense has had to play tough offenses in Arizona and Minnesota.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
I don't think the Colts defense is good enough to stop the Saints defense. In the playoffs, they only had to play teams with strong running games and suspect passing games. They could load up in the box and not be hurt. They load the box against the Saints and Drew Brees will light them up. This will be the most balanced offense that the Colts defense has faced all season.

The Saints defense has had to play tough offenses in Arizona and Minnesota.i
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I think there might be a shoot out between the Colts bad secondary and having Manning as your QB.
 
I hope you are wrong.

I like the Saints "punch the qb in the mouth" mentality used against the Cards and Vikes, I just don't see it working on Manning. The DBs of the Saints look a little suspect to me also.
 
DBCooper said:
The DBs of the Saints look a little suspect to me also.
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they are the strength of our D

The DLine and LB corps are much more suspect

Porter and Greer make up one of the best CB tandems in the NFL. Greer is finally getting a little bit of notice for his play this year - which has been a welcome surprise. Most Saints fans thought we were getting Jason David 2.0 and were doubtful. He made us believers. Steller corner play.

Porter is a 2nd year player who excels at press coverage - he gambles a bit more than Greer and as the year developed, opposing QBs stopped targeting Greer's side as much. Porter is more vulnerable, but learns quickly and is a strong corner.

Sharper is having a very solid year - he doesn't have the legs and closing speed and can get beaten over the top. But he's smart, savvy, and we've been very pleased with his performance. He has been stronger in run support than we had anticipated.

Harper is a strong safety who is poor at covering anyone more athletic than an eligible tackle. But in run support, he's a very good strong safety.

Our secondary unit features two Pro-Bowlers in Sharper and Harper. And if Greer had been healthy the entire season, I think he'd make it 3. Our LB corps and DLine has 1. While Pro-Bowl recognition isn't necessarily reflective of people who are completely deserving, I use it here to make the point that our LB and DL are weaker, as a defensive unit, than the back end.

When our CBs are healthy, the defense looks different. The passing yards - for people who watch Saints games - are typically products of mismatches, catches over the middle, and poor pressure from our front 7.

That's why Dallas Clark and slot receivers for the Colts scare me much more than whoever Greer is covering out wide.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Manning pass for 300+ yards - he's the game's best. But those numbers aren't solely the secondary's responsibility - and, in most Saints games this year, it's been a product of being beaten across the middle and such. We didn't get beat deep this year nearly as much as last.
 
Thanks for the assesment RazorOye.

I was referring to the CBs, didn't the Saints start several CBs this year?

I like the safeties, I have always liked Sharper.
 
DBCooper said:
I was referring to the CBs, didn't the Saints start several CBs this year?
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we started more than I ever hoped :(

Porter and Greer both missed about half the season - and that's when things got really, really ugly for our D. They were just a completely different unit than the squad that started the year. Williams said from early on that our strength was the secondary and our CBs were the key to the defense. We schemed around them - when Porter and Greer got hurt we were left with little.

Gay is our 3rd CB and nickelback. He's a pretty smart and aware player, but man coverage is not his strength. But then he got hurt.

Jenkins was brutal in coverage much of the time - and anytime he was lined up, opposing QBs were targeting him constantly and he was getting burned with an uncomfortable regularity. I am not sure if he will make it as a CB. But I really love him as a player. He had two game-changing plays on special teams that showed awareness, work ethic, skill - he will be a good player for us I think in the long run. Perhaps not at CB.

But he played hurt as well and has been inactive the last couple of weeks due to injury.

Osama Young has played some at CB - drafted as a CB - but his future is at safety. Very good ST player. Instinctive and smart. Just probably not going to be a CB. But he was forced into coverage duty a few times because of attrition.

Then we had a couple of guys off the street: Mike McKenzie and Chris Macalister. McKenzie played out of his mind against the Pats - but the week after that, you could see a steady decline. He was eventually cut. Macalister met a similar fate, only earlier.

When you have to grab two guys off the street to play at CB, when that position is what the scheme has been built around, you're hurting. And it showed.

Sharper had to help in coverage more - not his strong suit. He played less the free roaming QB-reading safety than he'd like and his INTs went down, in opportunity and number.

With Greer and Porter starting, it transforms our defense. I know it sounds homer-iffic to say that Greer is a Pro Bowl quality corner. But I really think it's true. Peter King (I know, I know...) wrote that "I think Jabari Greer is the poor man's Darrelle Revis. I will guarantee you that one of the first things Peyton Manning will do this week as he gathers video to watch to prep for the Super Bowl is study Greer, who he hasn't seen very much as a Buffalo corner before leaving for the Saints in free-agency" and called Greer one of the most underrated free agent acquisitions of last offseason.

With both of them healthy and playing, it allows Sharper to provide better support in the middle of the field. It allows Harper to play more run support. It gives the DLine a bit more time to get some push. It typically limits the deep plays.

One of the best ways to beat the defense was what Minny did on the first drive - short passes and routes over the middle of the field at intermediate depth, under the coverage exploiting the mismatches there, targeting receivers streaking down the seams, and forcing Shanle and Fujita to help in the coverage.

Peyton will recognize this, I know that. And he'll probably shred it.

In all honesty, i think the only chance we have is winning a game that is somewhat of a shootout and we manage to get our hands on some turnovers.
 
Great response RazorOye, that really cleared things up for me.

This should be a really interesting game.
 
From the heart of the Black and Gold.....Go Saints!!! Let's Get Crunk!! I'm still a Texan fan, but its hard not to get pumped with the Who Dat enthusiasm displayed in NOLA everyday. NOLA is definately a great football fan town.
 
Reggie Wayne re-aggravated a knee injury during Friday's practice and left early. He is now listed as "probable" for the Super Bowl.

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GuerillaBlack said:
Reggie Wayne re-aggravated a knee injury during Friday's practice and left early. He is now listed as "probable" for the Super Bowl.

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I just read that on yahoo.. They said he will be fine. Man, if the Colts win this they will deserve it. No Bob Sanders, maybe no Freeny and now this..
 
Haven't the Colts won the same amount of games with or without Dwight Freeney? The win-loss percentage was almost identical, IIRC.
 
stingray said:
I just read that on yahoo.. They said he will be fine. Man, if the Colts win this they will deserve it. No Bob Sanders, maybe no Freeny and now this..
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Bob Sanders essentially hasn't played at all this year so he hasn't been a factor.

GuerillaBlack said:
Haven't the Colts won the same amount of games with or without Dwight Freeney? The win-loss percentage was almost identical, IIRC.
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Amazingly yes. They are something like 9-3 without him and 92-27 overall while Manning has been QB if the talking heads are correct.
 
infantrycak said:
Bob Sanders essentially hasn't played at all this year so he hasn't been a factor.
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That's kinda my point. The Colts D has playing stout but I think that the D could have been special with him in it, healthy of course. But we really don't know...

Anyway, my point was that the Colts wil be well deserved of a title if they do indeed win.
 
If anyone says "WHO DAT" to me one more time I'll be going to jail!!!:aggressive::cutthroat: I'm starting to believe Saints fans are worst than Cowboy fans! Is that possible??!
 
SheTexan said:
If anyone says "WHO DAT" to me one more time I'll be going to jail!!!:aggressive::cutthroat: I'm starting to believe Saints fans are worst than Cowboy fans! Is that possible??!
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How do you think I feel! I m in the heart of the Black and Gold nation. Three of the local channels right now are having Saints special broadcasts. But I suppose the fans have a right too be.

But it really is not that bad! I can only imagine how it will be when the TEXANS finally make it to the big game one day. I have been living over here since the storm and is has been pretty cool to see how the Saints fans have been able to watch their team move up the NFL food chain. If there is another team as deserving as the TEXANS and Houston fans, it would be the Saints. The fans here have suffered a long time. As a huge Oiler fan and now a TEXAN fan, we all should understand that.

Brees does a great job of representing Lone Star State football talent as a product of Austin Westlake. He is absolutely loved over here and is a great Texas product.

Go Saints or Geaux Saints!

But by the way, here is the only beat down the Saints really got this year......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-TIS8K0Xqk
 
I don't really care one way or the other about this game. The only thing I don't want to see is the Saints win and Reggie Bush has a good game. We'll never hear the end of it if that happens. If the Saints win and Bush is a non-factor in the game, I guess that'll be OK with me.

I've got half a mind to root for the Colts, but it's just so difficult. LOL

I do think Manning deserves it though. Just like I was rooting for John Elway in the super bowl years ago I could easily find myself rooting for Manning today.
 
Maybe all those Creole women got together and put a hex on Indianapolis. Manning better have an extra-strength jock strap on tonight, I would hate to see anything fall off while he's scrambling. Those voodoo women are best left alone. :gun:
 
SheTexan said:
If anyone says "WHO DAT" to me one more time I'll be going to jail!!!:aggressive::cutthroat: I'm starting to believe Saints fans are worst than Cowboy fans! Is that possible??!
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First time in franchise history that they've been in the Super Bowl. All the crap that's happened to the area of the country since 2005. Let them be happy. When the Saints made it to the Super Bowl, there wasn't one arrest or incident (reported at least) in New Orleans.

Thorn said:
I don't really care one way or the other about this game. The only thing I don't want to see is the Saints win and Reggie Bush has a good game. We'll never hear the end of it if that happens. If the Saints win and Bush is a non-factor in the game, I guess that'll be OK with me.

I've got half a mind to root for the Colts, but it's just so difficult. LOL

I do think Manning deserves it though. Just like I was rooting for John Elway in the super bowl years ago I could easily find myself rooting for Manning today.
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I don't think it'll be thank big of a deal if he has a big game and they win. People know by now that Mario is a very good player and Bush is not the reason why the Saints are where they are. Maybe if he produced like Chris Johnson (who Bush was suppose to be) over the season, but he didn't.
 
the "who dat" stuff is stupid and worn.

can't ever truly root for the Colts...so just an entertaining game is all I'm looking for. hopefully The Who put on a good show at halftime.

:texflag:
 
The Colts have pressure on them for two reasons: if they loose the Super Bowl, Colts fans will say "You should have gone 16-0 at least!" but if they win everyone will say "You could have gone 19-0, why didn't you?"

Aside from that, Peyton Manning is one of the best there is, he will find a way to rally his team and keep the game close. Also, without Freeney the Colts still have a solid defense that should be able to get pressure on Drew Brees.

BTW, no team that has lost to the Bucs in the regular season has gone on to win the Super Bowl just so you know.
 
False Start said:
DOWN - On March The Saints

A cool song about the Saints. Former Pantera vocalist Philip Anselmo's newer band.
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Man I'm watching Wynton Marsalis and thinking of when I went to NO just weeks before Katrina. Indy has nothing close to a Marsalis. Their airport isn't named after Louis Armstrong.

I am a sucker for Creole culture. I love me some Jazz and Gumbo, and I think New Orleans is the most unique city in America.
 
Dan B. said:
Man I'm watching Wynton Marsalis and thinking of when I went to NO just weeks before Katrina. Indy has nothing close to a Marsalis. Their airport isn't named after Louis Armstrong.

I am a sucker for Creole culture. I love me some Jazz and Gumbo, and I think New Orleans is the most unique city in America.
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Yeah, we used to go to NOLA every year for our reunion as a kid. It was nice place to visit, but I would much rather live in Texas. :texflag:



The song, was written and released after Katrina, its about Katrina, and the Saints return to the Superdome afterwards.

All of the band members lost their homestead, and pretty much all of their other stuff.
 
Showtime100 said:
This is the part I hate about the SB. All these stars hatcheting up songs for the PR.
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I can't stand people who ad lib the National Anthem.

"And the howowowowowowum owowowowffffff thhhhheeeeee brayayayayayayveeeeee!"

You do a good enough job of ruining your own songs, leave the timeless classics alone.
 
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