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Should we trade Watson?
- Thread starter theCATALYST
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If you have to ask... you probably are one.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
“Ask your mom how she met your dad”
is what I would say if we were in a bar having drinks.
I won’t say that here.
banned1976
sleeper mode
Are Instagram Hoes (IH's) former e-girls?
I'm so glad I grew up in the 70's/80's.
I'm so glad I grew up in the 70's/80's.
Jadmakaveli
Veteran
Beautiful young lady with a lot of followers.
Every woman with a large following on IG will be called a IG model and every IG model is labeled as an IG hoe even if they don’t have an OF.
Just the fact that "baby mamas" is said in any conversation between management and players is beyond unprofessional. It's bush league garbage and speaks of a flawed foundational issue within this franchise.
The inherent question (to me) is if this was solely O'Brien's perspective, or, was it a mandate from above? We have our suspicions, some have more concrete perspectives, but it is a terrible look for an entertainment corporation in 2021.
Not sure. I'll need to do more research. . .
Texansballer74
The Marine
What makes anybody a hoe? Maybe they’re going around and having sex with everyone.
FireBOB
Waterboy
Not sure. I'll need to do more research. . .
Don't forget to change hands at 99
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
I don't think many teams are grading Nick yet. They can see that he took a job and I'm sure they don't hold it against him. They will judge the draft and FA signings. At least till Easterby is gone. As per public record he has been meadling in contact talks and more for awhile. You can't do anything if he is saying"no". Maybe tell Cal, but as you said in the dumpster fire of the FO, Cal would likely take Easterby's side. Similar to Smith getting a leg up on Kubes and OB.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
Depending on the staff how we play. Remember, Jake Delhome took the Panthers to a SB with a good D and running game.
Norg
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maverick512000
Hall of Fame
To be fair the whole NFL is working the phone hard. This last Super Bowl had the worst ratings since 07 which was Colts and Bears. When you figure that many are still on lockdown, seating was limited and the great story of Brady trying to prove he is the GOAT with a new team and the young GOAT of Mahomes standing in his way. Yeah this SB should have been a ratings smash but it wasn’t.
Super Bowl posts worst viewer ratings since 2007
CBS said the Super Bowl attracted 96.4 million viewers, the lowest-watched NFL championship since 2007, when the Indianapolis Colts played the Chicago Bears.
To be fair the whole NFL is working the phone hard. This last Super Bowl had the worst ratings since 07 which was Colts and Bears. When you figure that many are still on lockdown, seating was limited and the great story of Brady trying to prove he is the GOAT with a new team and the young GOAT of Mahomes standing in his way. Yeah this SB should have been a ratings smash but it wasn’t.
Things weren’t great before 2020 and then it was a bad year for football on many levels. I’m not sure the NFL will ever fully recover from the fallout of it.Super Bowl posts worst viewer ratings since 2007
CBS said the Super Bowl attracted 96.4 million viewers, the lowest-watched NFL championship since 2007, when the Indianapolis Colts played the Chicago Bears.www.cnbc.com
Players took a stand they believe in.
Time to pay the piper.
It was the Weekend
Texian
Hall of Fame
Roger Goodell, NFL and CBS were pushing this social culture and social justice to a point of nauseating. Half of the CBS pre game show was downright cringeworthy. Reminds me of when ESPN decided to they wanted to do political commentary in stead of sports reporting. Damn near destroyed the network.To be fair the whole NFL is working the phone hard. This last Super Bowl had the worst ratings since 07 which was Colts and Bears. When you figure that many are still on lockdown, seating was limited and the great story of Brady trying to prove he is the GOAT with a new team and the young GOAT of Mahomes standing in his way. Yeah this SB should have been a ratings smash but it wasn’t.
Things weren’t great before 2020 and then it was a bad year for football on many levels. I’m not sure the NFL will ever fully recover from the fallout of it.Super Bowl posts worst viewer ratings since 2007
CBS said the Super Bowl attracted 96.4 million viewers, the lowest-watched NFL championship since 2007, when the Indianapolis Colts played the Chicago Bears.
NFL also lost a lot of viewers and fans when they backed, supported and promoted players taking a knee, Many of those fans have not returned.
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maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Never stopped big ratings before.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Weeknd was the main attraction.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I do not see Watson giving up his no-trade Clause to play for Jacksonville
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Oh right, forgot about that. I swear these singer’s names are getting dumber.
I guess when the last E in his name went missing, so did entertaining.
The commercials were better... even his pregame
austins23
Hall of Fame
Nothing about Sunday was good unless you were a Bucs fan. Pre game was crap, halftime was crap, I remember one or two commercials not being crap, and the game was crap. I enjoyed the Chiefs getting beat like a piñata. Best part of the game was Tommy getting up in Honey Badgers face. Don't piss off the ol man, Honey Badger!
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
And it still didn’t. 96 million still blows anything out of the water by a ton, or 7. Still in the top 20 of the most watched things ever.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Compared to a sitcom you're right but when a 30 second ad costs millions of dollars the standard by which its judged is different. Read the article, they are trying to spin it but CBS and the NFL were not happy with the number.
banned1976
sleeper mode
The Texans are in a no win situation right now with Watson. And before I go on, I do NOT feel sorry for Watson. He is getting paid handsomely by the Texans. That said...
I don't think he woke up one day while on vacation and said, "I'm going to screw the Texans over." I don't think one thing happened between Watson and the organization that blew this relationship up. I believe there was already a lot of turmoil brewing and the hiring of Caserio just caused it to bubble over.
I'm not taking sides in this conflict. And I am not the least sympathetic towards any of the parties involved. The only point I've been making all along is that if the Texans trade Watson, there's no chance they'll be compensated fairly, because that's almost impossible, and; they'll regret it for as long as a McNair owns the team. As for the fans, if the Texans trade Watson, get ready for unwatchable football in H-Town again. Yeah, they lost a lot of games in 2020. But most of those were exciting games, solely because of the stellar quarterback play.
zshawn10
All Pro
Pancakes
-Texans say they aren’t trading Watson. Right now, they believe it.
-If they don’t trade him by the draft, he’s in for a long haul which he’ll have to sit out
Wilson
-Status quo
-Don’t know why people feel the need to report something if they don’t have new information to offer
-Nothing new; it’s a standoff; they don’t want to trade him; he still wants to be traded; no communication
-They’ve reached out to him; he doesn’t respond; ghosting the team
-If he was to engage them, that would give hope; he doesn’t want to give them that
-Why talk with someone when you’ve already communicated what you want? You already communicated the trade request through your representative
-For him to start having talks or considering things, while that may be what the fans and team wants, it’s contrary to his wishes; why engage if you have no intention of coming back?
-This is him being a man of his word and being intentional
-I’m told this is not a strategy or them wanting something. They want one thing: out. That has not changed. To say there’s something new, no there isn’t. People like the clicks or conversation or wanting to be relevant.
-I see people make a big deal about a lot of things; firing the equipment manager and on Sunday morning Adam Schefter is making a big deal out of that; Yeah, players like him and he was a good equipment manager; is he headline news? Not in my opinion. There are changes when you have a regime change. There will be more changes like that.
-Not everything is a huge deal; Some people love to create drama; players on social media, is it done to create disruption or is it genuine feelings? I wonder.
-Everything is a “big deal”; this is a team that people want to make everything more dramatic than they are
Pancakes
-Mulugheta & Watson at some point should have a meeting with the Texans so they can hear from Watson; doesn’t have to be a lot of give and take, just hear from him what does he want?; then tell him and Mulugheta face to face here’s exactly what we think then see where it goes
-I think we’ll be watching Deshaun sit out; he can retire
-Key is will they give in closer to the draft; if they do, it should start with the Jets
Wilson
-Keep an eye on the Miami Dolphins still
www.houstonchronicle.com
-Texans say they aren’t trading Watson. Right now, they believe it.
-If they don’t trade him by the draft, he’s in for a long haul which he’ll have to sit out
Wilson
-Status quo
-Don’t know why people feel the need to report something if they don’t have new information to offer
-Nothing new; it’s a standoff; they don’t want to trade him; he still wants to be traded; no communication
-They’ve reached out to him; he doesn’t respond; ghosting the team
-If he was to engage them, that would give hope; he doesn’t want to give them that
-Why talk with someone when you’ve already communicated what you want? You already communicated the trade request through your representative
-For him to start having talks or considering things, while that may be what the fans and team wants, it’s contrary to his wishes; why engage if you have no intention of coming back?
-This is him being a man of his word and being intentional
-I’m told this is not a strategy or them wanting something. They want one thing: out. That has not changed. To say there’s something new, no there isn’t. People like the clicks or conversation or wanting to be relevant.
-I see people make a big deal about a lot of things; firing the equipment manager and on Sunday morning Adam Schefter is making a big deal out of that; Yeah, players like him and he was a good equipment manager; is he headline news? Not in my opinion. There are changes when you have a regime change. There will be more changes like that.
-Not everything is a huge deal; Some people love to create drama; players on social media, is it done to create disruption or is it genuine feelings? I wonder.
-Everything is a “big deal”; this is a team that people want to make everything more dramatic than they are
Pancakes
-Mulugheta & Watson at some point should have a meeting with the Texans so they can hear from Watson; doesn’t have to be a lot of give and take, just hear from him what does he want?; then tell him and Mulugheta face to face here’s exactly what we think then see where it goes
-I think we’ll be watching Deshaun sit out; he can retire
-Key is will they give in closer to the draft; if they do, it should start with the Jets
Wilson
-Keep an eye on the Miami Dolphins still
Podcast: All quiet on the Watson front for Texans?
John McClain and Aaron Wilson discuss the latest with Deshaun Watson and trade...
I'm sure the word blow or blew has alot to do with DW4 wanting to leave the Texans.
If they get the picks right it wont be unwatchable football. There was alot of unwatchable football the Texans played last yr. My question for you is are you good with watching a couple of more seasons of unwatchable football while they rebuild the team?
Of course we value DW4 much differently.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
I wonder if we could trade Watson for Russell Wilson.
Could you get a couple players on defense and maybe a high draft pick?
Or would that be an even swap?
Could you get a couple players on defense and maybe a high draft pick?
Or would that be an even swap?
Seriously doubt Russ would wave his no-trade clause to come here..
I don't know if I'm in the "hell with him camp" at the end of the day, it's a business. & if he's not happy with the direction the team is going... ah well.
I do wonder how the Texans are going to go forward though, this situation has put them in a pickle. Salary cap issues from jump, reduced revenue from covid, now... most likely Watson dead money.
I understand 2021 is going to be a wash, but they still have to field a team.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Yeah. Signed Sonny Bono and Cat Stevens, Miley Cyrus, Slash, Meatloaf,Cher, Etc
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Never said they weren't dumb before but at least they didn't just take a word, cut out a letter and say thats my name. I mean at least Prince had a new symbol created for his name.
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banned1976
sleeper mode
Well, you made me do it. I just Googled worst band names and let me just say this about that - Penis Flytrap and Rainbow Butt Monkeys are two of the better band names on that list.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
We just hired a new character coach.
We are a very religious team now.
Wilson is just as religious.
It might be a good fit.
Plus our line is going to be a lot better.
I am just saying. Wilson just aired grievances against his team, Watson wants out, Texans are very religious now... It could work.
He may also want to play for a competent football organization..
His issue with Seattle isn't being kept from church, it's getting sacked too often..
Wondered if he's seen how much DW has run for his life..
His issue with Seattle isn't being kept from church, it's getting sacked too often..
Wondered if he's seen how much DW has run for his life..
Texazan
Our HOF 34
Ya know I didnt watch much but was DB76 getting ate up this year? I assumed it was more interior issues.....
- The Devil Wears Prada. ...
- Natalie Portman's Shaved Head. ...
- Toad the Wet Sprocket. ...
- Dogs Die in Hot Cars. ...
- Cherry Poppin' Daddies. ...
- Anal ****. ... The c word
- Panic! ...
- Hoobastank.
banned1976
sleeper mode
Cherry Poppin' Daddies is an outstanding name! I was going to name my son Cherry Poppin' Daddy but the name got nixed by the ex. Now his name is Nathan. What kind of crazy name is that?!
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
Wilson has mentioned it. Not to here or anything but he has said something about it. No idea why, heard it earlier and now see some articles on it.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
I honestly think he is only still here because of the president it will set. Cal is not smart, but I don't think he will want to be the guy who made it possible for every unhappy player to just say "I want traded". Seeing if he is traded it will seem like that to many.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
I would agree, but we need that other 1st or something more. If a DB gets 2 1sts, Watson should get 3 I agree with the idea another person posted.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
Exactly.
And whoever said Watson was not close to his coaches (father figure/mentor type thing), this is one of many things he has said.
You think Easterby is going to trade Jj? I'd have thought he was Easterby's kind of guy.Once Watt is gone and we talk that out a trade for Watson could be next.
