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Should foster be next to go?

Is it time to part ways with Foster?

  • Yes

    Votes: 36 30.5%

  • No

    Votes: 82 69.5%
  • Total voters
    118
dream_team said:
I'm surprised there are no cut Andre Johnson threads yet? A guy that's past his prime and by far the highest paid player on our team.

Now I am not saying we should cut him, but with the re-building tone of alot of people on here, just surprised I haven't seen it mentioned yet.

On a side note... the way his contract is structured, he's lined up for a sure-cut by 2016. He'll be getting paid +14M, but only 2.7 of it is dead money.
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Dredge up one of the old ones. There are plenty around including from this season.

He isn't past his prime. He just had 1400 yds with dumb and dumber at QB and is in the stretch of his career where Jerry Rice had the best 4 years of his career.

He contract is set up perfectly for a restructure to have him go from being paid as he deserves as one of the best #1's in the league to an extension as one of the best #2's in the league.
 
Marcus said:
I think the better question should be...

Should he have been given that big money contract to begin with?
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That is in the past and it is completely irrelevant right now. If you say yes, if you say no to your question - How does that change anything?

You can choose to focus on what you can't control while the rest of us focus on what you CAN control.
 
I don't think we can afford to cut Foster but I don't know if his mind is in the game anymore either ... since he got his contract ....

If he's not going to dedicate himself to the game and be an everyday contributor ... including practice .... we don't lose much by letting him go because he's just going to sit it out until he sees we are a contender or not before getting serious again.

He's got the team between a rock and a hard place.
 
maddogmrb said:
I don't think we can afford to cut Foster but I don't know if his mind is in the game anymore either ... since he got his contract ....

If he's not going to dedicate himself to the game and be an everyday contributor ... including practice .... we don't lose much by letting him go because he's just going to sit it out until he sees we are a contender or not before getting serious again.

He's got the team between a rock and a hard place.
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He's looking towards his next big pay day........in California.

Movie Review of Draft Day (Featuring Texans RB Arian Foster)
 
AngryNateFTW said:
Foster just tweeted..





RELEASE HIM! :user:
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I think he should contact Isaiah Carey's to expose the racist police. I wonder if he has Isaiah's card somewhere in his toyota pickup? Maybe its in the gold diggers car? Foster is an attention whore.
 
Foster has been with the Texans since 2009. That's 5 maybe 6 seasons of hard running with lots of carries and several injuries along the way. Average length of an NFL running back's career 2.57 years. Sure hope Blue works out because Foster is on the tail end of his career just like Johnson is.
 
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I don`t worry about Foster. He is a great guy, a very smart runner and great to have on the team. There is a good chance his career won`t last too much longer, but I don`t think losing him would be catastrophic. It would free up lots of capsapce, and it is not too hard to find a runner that gets the job done free.

So I´ll be happy for as long as we have that real playmaker in Foster - when we have to let him go I´ll be sad to see him go, but I will really like that extra capspace. I still believe you shouldn`t invest too much money in positions like HBs or WRs (I love AJ, but I still think you need to spend your money elsewhere to win big). Get great lines on both sides of the ball, get a QB that is worth spending 15 million on, get good CBs and guys on defense that can get to the QB and you have a good chance to win.
 
I like Foster. I hope he does well this season. I like the story of the UDFA makes good, like I hope Keenum fits the local boy does well story. Those types of stories about your team are better than the ones like are coming out of Cleveland, and much more endearing to the fans.
 
Maurice Jones Drew was rode hard. In his first five years, he carried the ball 1141 times. Including 312 carries his 4th year & 299 carries his fifth year. He went on to carry the ball another 663 times over three years averaging 4.3 yards per carry.

I don't know if Arian has many thousand yard seasons left in him. But with the meat we've got in front of him, he's not going to have many "hard yards" in the near future.
 
Arian Foster ready to tackle Texans new offense


Foster has recovered from back surgery and worked hard to make sure he would be able to take part in the Texans offseason workouts.

He was at the team's voluntary minicamp for veterans and will be working with his teammates during the Texans' organized team activities which begin next week.

"Yea, I'm back," Foster said.

He's back and ready to tackle the Texans new offense.

"They have a lot of zone schemes, runs, every offense does," Foster said. "The way they want to use me out of the backfield as far as different alignments and matchups they want to have against linebackers and things like that."
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It could be me, but imo Foster never really took any real punishment running like some of the other backs in the league have
 
I am wondering about Foster too (worried is not my word of choice, but close).

Foster is coming off back surgery, and to tell the truth looked sluggish when he was healthy.

How does his running style fit the new scheme?


I hope he does great, and I don't think Blue is the answer if he falters.
 
I thought I was having Deja Vu all over again or an early morning time warp before I realized...THREAD MERGE!

Dang, you mod guys are quick.

Along with being all those things that LB says you guys are...:kitten:




:D
 
Troy Chapman said:
Arian is very good at avoid big hits.

Arian & AJ will both be cap casualties after the 2014 season.
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Depends on whether Foster has another big yr. Foster is essentially playing for his job next yr. If his back holds up I think he will have a big yr. He is running to support his gold digger and illegitimate child.
 
DBCooper said:
I am wondering about Foster too (worried is not my word of choice, but close).

Foster is coming off back surgery, and to tell the truth looked sluggish when he was healthy.

How does his running style fit the new scheme?


I hope he does great, and I don't think Blue is the answer if he falters.
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What do you not like about Blue? I think he could be the steal of the draft.
 
DBCooper said:
I hope you're right.

I probably haven't watched enough of him to make a fair assessment.
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LSU was my college team until aTm made the jump to the SEC.

Very talented, big back. Torn ACL in 2012 and a deep pool of RB's at LSU affected his draft staus quite a bit.The guy reminds me a lot of Foster.
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DocBar said:
LSU was my college team until aTm made the jump to the SEC.

Very talented, big back. Torn ACL in 2012 and a deep pool of RB's at LSU affected his draft staus quite a bit.The guy reminds me a lot of Foster.
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Thanks man, been trying to find as much on the guy as I can.
 
DBCooper said:
I am wondering about Foster too (worried is not my word of choice, but close).

Foster is coming off back surgery, and to tell the truth looked sluggish when he was healthy.

How does his running style fit the new scheme?


I hope he does great, and I don't think Blue is the answer if he falters.
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I like Blue. He reminds me a lot of Eric Dickerson in stature and in that he runs "straight up." However, this leaves an RB totally exposed to injuries such as knee injuries since the knees are kept in extended locked position so much of the time. Blue has already suffered one ACL surgery. Even more worrisome for an erect running back the probability of repeated cervical whiplash when forcefully taking blows............just ask Eric. Dickerson had to have a large neck roll fashioned to stabilize his neck and protect it from whiplashing. A herniated disc in his lower cervical region forced his retirement, when he could no longer pass the Packers physical.


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CloakNNNdagger said:
I like Blue. He reminds me a lot of Eric Dickerson in stature and in that he runs "straight up." However, this leaves an RB totally exposed to injuries such as knee injuries since the knees are kept in extended locked position so much of the time. Blue has already suffered one ACL surgery. Even more worrisome for an erect running back the probability of repeated cervical whiplash when forcefully taking blows............just ask Eric. Dickerson had to have a large neck roll fashioned to stabilize his neck and protect it from whiplashing. A herniated disc in his lower cervical region forced his retirement, when he could no longer pass the Packers physical.


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Since you're always crapping on my heart and depressing me, can you at least prescribe me some happy pills? Hell, at this point I'd be good with a Happy Meal!! Still love ya though, Dr. Doom. :fostering:
 
DocBar said:
Since you're always crapping on my heart and depressing me, can you at least prescribe me some happy pills? Hell, at this point I'd be good with a Happy Meal!! Still love ya though, Dr. Doom. :fostering:
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Hey DocBar,

On the bright side, Dickerson had 6 GREAT years, 3 MEDIOCRE years and 2 POOR years in his career. In his 12 year career, he averaged 4.4 yds/carry..I think we'd all be happy if Blue could pull off close to that.:)
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Hey DocBar,

On the bright side, Dickerson had 6 GREAT years, 3 MEDIOCRE years and 2 POOR years in his career. In his 12 year career, he averaged 4.4 yds/carry..I think we'd all be happy if Blue could pull off close to that.:)
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You mean the bright side isn't that Dickerson is in the HOF ? You suck as a motivational speaker, Jean. :kitten:
 
If he hates cats them he can't be all that bad. I say lets keep him around for awhile longer.
 
Marcus said:
I think the better question should be...

Should he have been given that big money contract to begin with?
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Only reason it is a question is because of his injury history now. When he got that contract he was the best all around RB in the NFL and was a elite top tier RB.

I guess you can argue if HBs should get that much money, but he was a elite player not to long ago.

I wouldn't get rid of him, only if he's not willing to take a cut and realize he's on the downside of his career. I have a feeling that BOB will be more interested in the RB stable rather than relying so much on one guy like Kubiak did any ways.
 
Kubiak ruined him in 2012 for no reason. He ran him into the ground while Ben Tate was at least moderately healthy riding pine. That will always be the most inexcusable thing Kubes did. Running him into the ground would be a wiser move like this year at least in the 3rd year of his contract when you see the end of Foster's tunnel.
 
I dont see why so many think Arian Foster is already on the down slide.

Earl Campbell took a beating and played 8 seasons

Barry Sanders more elusive like Foster 10 seasons

Eddie George a bruiser 9 seasons

The list goes on and on. The point is that Foster in his first season only started 2 games at the end of the season, and last year he only played half a season so he has only actually played in the NFL for 4 seasons. He did not tear an ACL didnt get his knee blown out. He had a back injury that i think wasnt really as bad as we think. The season was already lost so i think it was more pre caution than anything.

If Foster comes back healthy which i believe he will going from histories stand point he has 4-5 more middle to productive seasons.
 
EllisUnit said:
I dont see why so many think Arian Foster is already on the down slide.

Earl Campbell took a beating and played 8 seasons

Barry Sanders more elusive like Foster 10 seasons

Eddie George a bruiser 9 seasons

The list goes on and on. The point is that Foster in his first season only started 2 games at the end of the season, and last year he only played half a season so he has only actually played in the NFL for 4 seasons. He did not tear an ACL didnt get his knee blown out. He had a back injury that i think wasnt really as bad as we think. The season was already lost so i think it was more pre caution than anything.

If Foster comes back healthy which i believe he will going from histories stand point he has 4-5 more middle to productive seasons.
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The number of touches is what concerns me.
www.nfl.com/.../article/going-deep-is-300-the-magic-number-for-rbs

Can't go to the web page at work for some reason.
 
foster is a pseudo intellect. like a rapper who thinks he's so intelligent because he raps against the illuminati.

i knew foster was a fraud with very low IQ when he did that segment with spencer tillman about his poetry. Tillman showed what real intelligence is all about while foster came off like a conceited public school idiot sitting next to a harvard educated man.

he's even a fake vegetarian.
 
DocBar said:
The number of touches is what concerns me.
www.nfl.com/.../article/going-deep-is-300-the-magic-number-for-rbs

Can't go to the web page at work for some reason.
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yeah it isnt working for me either while sitting at home on my unemployed ass haha i will look up carries for each.

Eddie George - 2865... 9 seasons
Barry Sanders - 3602... 10 seasons
Earl Campbell - 2187... 8 seasons
Emmitt Smith - 4409... 15 seasons
Ladanian Tomlinson - 3174... 11 seasons
Edgerrin James - 3028... 11 seasons

FOSTER - 1131... 5 seasons
 
Lord Bills said:
foster is a pseudo intellect. like a rapper who thinks he's so intelligent because he raps against the illuminati.

i knew foster was a fraud with very low IQ when he did that segment with spencer tillman about his poetry. Tillman showed what real intelligence is all about while foster came off like a conceited public school idiot sitting next to a harvard educated man.

he's even a fake vegetarian.
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What are you even talking about ? Who cares he produces on the field that's all you as an NFL fan should worry about.
 
EllisUnit said:
yeah it isnt working for me either while sitting at home on my unemployed ass haha i will look up carries for each.

Eddie George - 2865... 9 seasons
Barry Sanders - 3602... 10 seasons
Earl Campbell - 2187... 8 seasons
Emmitt Smith - 4409... 15 seasons
Ladanian Tomlinson - 3174... 11 seasons
Edgerrin James - 3028... 11 seasons

FOSTER - 1131... 5 seasons
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There's an article on the interwebs that talks about a steep decline in performance when a back gets over 300 or so carries in a single season. It's been discussed on TT before.
 
EllisUnit said:
Well were golden then cause Fosters highest is 351, unless you include the playoffs :voodoo:
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The playoffs count.
EDIT:Pushes that 2012 total up to 405 carries for Foster. He had 378 carries in 2011.
Kubiak Terrell Davis'd him.




All players with 390 or more carries, no matter how these carries were split between the regular season and the postseason, averaged a 33 percent drop in total yards, and an 11 percent drop in yards per carry
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:firehair:
 
DocBar said:
The playoffs count.Pushes that 2012 total up to 405 carries for Foster.

:firehair:
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Then they need to revise their statement because Foster is now an exception to the rule since is ypc went up from 2012 to 2013 by .4 ypc.

* the playoffs do not count for the 370 figure.
 
infantrycak said:
Then they need to revise their statement because Foster is now an exception to the rule since is ypc went up from 2012 to 2013 by .4 ypc.

* the playoffs do not count for the 370 figure.
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Is he an exception? He only played in 8 games in 2013.
Agreed on the 370 but I feel 378 is close enough to 390 to be worried about it.
 
DocBar said:
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I think you are misreading your quote. It is not that each player with over 390 carries had a reduction in yards and ypc. It is that as a group they averaged a reduced number of yards and ypc. Take a look at Emmitt Smith's 91-95 seasons. Boy was stomping all over those numbers and just getting better (the missed games were due to a contract holdout).

91 - 406 carries, 4.3 ypc
92 - 441 carries, 4.6 ypc
93 - 348 carries, 5.3 ypc (holdout)
94 - 395 carries, 4.0 ypc
95 - 450 carries, 4.7 ypc
 
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