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Should foster be next to go?

Is it time to part ways with Foster?

  • Yes

    Votes: 36 30.5%

  • No

    Votes: 82 69.5%
  • Total voters
    118
Keep him, at least through this season, give him a chance to prove he can stay healthy and see how he fits in BOB's scheme.
Draft a guy in round 5 or 6 (Isaiah Crowell), and see what happens.
 
texan_joe said:
Keep him, at least through this season, give him a chance to prove he can stay healthy and see how he fits in BOB's scheme.
Draft a guy in round 5 or 6 (Isaiah Crowell), and see what happens.
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In a little different way of stating the same thing that Lucky present in his post above....................injured players don't tend to fit very well in any coach's schemes.:kitten:
 
Double Barrel said:
Foster is an asset in the backfield, both in terms of running the ball and picking up the blitz. With a new offense, and perhaps a rookie QB, having a veteran in the backfield protecting him is a positive thing.

Obviously health is an issue, but that's always a concern in football.
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Yeh he's an asset, when he's healthy. And yes health is always a concern in football but his health is a major concern. He's never been a bust his ass kind of guy. He's coming off of back problems that cost him more than HC the season last year. He's got a ton of mileage and he's been dealing with serious personal issues for the last few months that surely pare going to linger on for some time.

There are at least six backs in this draft I would rather see I'm the backfield this year over Foster.

And to the person who said no one will trade for Foster, someone traded for Matt freaking Schaub. So......
 
My main concern is that just the change of the offense is going to not agree with Foster. I'm really hoping like he doesn't end up like other RBs that excelled in that Kubiak offense. Guys like Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary etc.... all had awesome careers with Denver and then sucked when moved to a different style offense.
 
mussop said:
And to the person who said no one will trade for Foster, someone traded for Matt freaking Schaub. So......
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Is one of Foster's old coaches now a HC for a team sitting on a stack of money so high they are required to spend a bunch of it?

Are there 6 QBs other teams want to start week #1?

Schaub is irrelevant. At best you might get the same kind of token 6th or 7th and there is no point to that.

Not sure why you started the thread even since you clearly have your mind up and are just going to slag anyone who answers no.
 
mussop said:
And to the person who said no one will trade for Foster, someone traded for Matt freaking Schaub. So......
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And someone else traded for Blaine Gabbert. The difference being they are QB's, not RB's.

You only have to look as far as the Chris Johnson situation to see how much trade value Foster will garner on the market.
 
mussop said:
Yeh he's an asset, when he's healthy. And yes health is always a concern in football but his health is a major concern. He's never been a bust his ass kind of guy. He's coming off of back problems that cost him more than HC the season last year. He's got a ton of mileage and he's been dealing with serious personal issues for the last few months that surely pare going to linger on for some time.

There are at least six backs in this draft I would rather see I'm the backfield this year over Foster.

And to the person who said no one will trade for Foster, someone traded for Matt freaking Schaub. So......
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I'm not sure what makes you say this other than personal speculation. Link? From what I've gathered this dude busts his ass just as much, if not more than other players. Before his Twitter hiatus he'd tweet of his workouts all the time. So, that comment is nothing but hogwash unless you link to otherwise.

The 2nd bolded statement is just crazy talk. Granted, I get you on the health situation, but he's one of the best in the league when on the field. To say you'd rather have a clueless rookie RB instead of a dude that, when healthy, has been top 5 in the league is kind of ridiculous imo

To be honest, this whole thread is kinda ridiculous. You gain nothing by getting rid of him. Yet, gain everything when he's on the field
 
HOU-TEX said:
To be honest, this whole thread is kinda ridiculous. You gain nothing by getting rid of him. Yet, gain everything when he's on the field
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Exactly. Whether the money is already spent or not, we're gonna feel it on our cap. Might as well try to get something out of him, on the field.
 
Double Barrel said:
Foster is an asset in the backfield, both in terms of running the ball and picking up the blitz. With a new offense, and perhaps a rookie QB, having a veteran in the backfield protecting him is a positive thing.

Obviously health is an issue, but that's always a concern in football.
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This is a very good point. Foster gives us a very reliable back who has enough experience to help foster (d'oooooooooh!) a fledgling QB along. We'd need experience back there regardless to pick up the blitz. I wouldn't trust a rookie RB to shoulder that responsibility and protect Bortles...I mean Manziel...I mean Bridgewater...
 
mussop said:
I know foster has a lot off supporters here but when you look at his mileage, contract, injury history and current off field issues it should be considered. I believe his value will only decline from this point forward. IMO we should seeing what we can get in return for him in a trade.

There should be some very good backs available late in this draft.
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I give him 2 more years max and he will be replaced by a younger RB.
 
IlliniJen said:
This is a very good point. Foster gives us a very reliable back who has enough experience to help foster (d'oooooooooh!) a fledgling QB along. We'd need experience back there regardless to pick up the blitz. I wouldn't trust a rookie RB to shoulder that responsibility and protect Bortles...I mean Manziel...I mean Bridgewater...
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:foottap:

uh... McCarron.
 
mussop said:
I know foster has a lot off supporters here but when you look at his mileage, contract, injury history and current off field issues it should be considered. I believe his value will only decline from this point forward. IMO we should seeing what we can get in return for him in a trade.

There should be some very good backs available late in this draft.
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You just defeated your own argument.

Why would anyone give up even a late pick if your final statement is anywhere close to true. Why would a team give up a pick then pay even vet minimum (assuming Foster'd sign for that) when as you said yourself "there should be some very good backs available late in this draft" for 5th thru 7th round rookie money?
 
I wouldnt call myself a Foster supporter. But I recognize the situation.

I think we need to be looking for a replacement in this upcoming draft, myself.

But it doesnt make any sense to just cut him or trade him for a low round pick.
 
ObsiWan said:
You just defeated your own argument.

Why would anyone give up even a late pick if your final statement is anywhere close to true. Why would a team give up a pick then pay even vet minimum (assuming Foster'd sign for that) when as you said yourself "there should be some very good backs available late in this draft" for 5th thru 7th round rookie money?
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Why would anyone give up a pick for a washed up Matt Schaub when this draft has many good young QB prospects?
 
mussop said:
Why would anyone give up a pick for a washed up Matt Schaub when this draft has many good young QB prospects?
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As far as "good young prospects" are concerned Oakland already has Matt McGloin and Terrell Prior so they must not have thought any of the current crop represented the opportunity for success that Matt Schaub does to them. Perhaps Matt Schaub represented a mentor for those two young'uns. Given that they just signed MJD, maybe the coach thinks their locker room needs "veteran presence" or something.

Hell, its the Raiders. Who knows.

But if you can only get a 6th for a former starting QB, what do you think a "troubled", injury-prone, "weirdo", Hollywood-on-the-brain, (did I cover everything?) RB will bring you? :)
 
Marcus said:
Hmm.....I'm trying to think of the last time a big-name free-agent RB who signed the big-money contract, didn't already have his best years behind him.

It makes more sense to draft 1 or 2 of them on the cheap each year, run them til the wheels fall off in about 2 or 3 years, and then stick another one in there. Like changing tires when the tread is worn. Sounds impersonal, but to me, it's a lot more practical than having a high paid RB, past his prime, sitting hurt on the bench.
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When it comes down to it, you have to have a good RB... it might seem like RBs come a dime a dozen but at the same time you see teams struggling mightily at the RB position

Foster isn't the most gifted athlete but he's smooth and better than any RB thats played for the texans
 
acal21 said:
When it comes down to it, you have to have a good RB... it might seem like RBs come a dime a dozen but at the same time you see teams struggling mightily at the RB position
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How good can he be if he's sitting on the bench hurt?

acal21 said:
Foster isn't the most gifted athlete but he's smooth and better than any RB thats played for the texans
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What does this have to do with anything? Are you saying we should keep him just because he WAS better than all the other RB's that have played for us?
 
If he plays like he was playing last yr no. I will say, I wouldn't pass sims or seastrunk in the 4th rd. He's still a good player who is still a 3 down back which is very rare. I would like to see his touches go down to extend his career.
 
mussop said:
How good can he be if he's sitting on the bench hurt?



What does this have to do with anything? Are you saying we should keep him just because he WAS better than all the other RB's that have played for us?
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You are thinking way too much into what i said... yeah foster is a RB he gets beat up and misses sometime but that doesn't mean you just give up on the guy

Im sure you would have just cut AP after he tore his acl
 
The Pencil Neck said:
From what I've seen, he doesn't respond well to pressure.
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That's all relative.... not to defend McCarron, but any QB. Peyton has issues dealing with pressure. So does Brady (remember when the Giants stomped his azz?)... it's just varying degrees of pressure.

Some QBs like Carr eventually, start out pretty good under pressure but after too long, they start hearing footsteps. That's when I think it's an issue, when he starts hearing & responding to ghosts.
 
thunderkyss said:
That's all relative.... not to defend McCarron, but any QB. Peyton has issues dealing with pressure. So does Brady (remember when the Giants stomped his azz?)... it's just varying degrees of pressure.

Some QBs like Carr eventually, start out pretty good under pressure but after too long, they start hearing footsteps. That's when I think it's an issue, when he starts hearing & responding to ghosts.
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Peyton also beats pressure. So does Brady. That's why they're so good. A lot of people like Bridgewater because he's good against pressure.

Nobody really knew what McCarron was like under pressure because his O-Line was so good that he rarely saw any. He did in the Oklahoma game though and he laid an egg.
 
thunderkyss said:
That's all relative.... not to defend McCarron, but any QB. Peyton has issues dealing with pressure. So does Brady (remember when the Giants stomped his azz?)... it's just varying degrees of pressure.

Some QBs like Carr eventually, start out pretty good under pressure but after too long, they start hearing footsteps. That's when I think it's an issue, when he starts hearing & responding to ghosts.
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And I think with McCarron, it doesn't take much for him to start responding to it poorly. He had it easy with that line of his but when he did get a little pressure, he quickly fell apart. He's not accustomed to having to make decisions quickly. Maybe he has an untapped ability for that and he just needs to work on it.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
And I think with McCarron, it doesn't take much for him to start responding to it poorly. He had it easy with that line of his but when he did get a little pressure, he quickly fell apart. He's not accustomed to having to make decisions quickly. Maybe he has an untapped ability for that and he just needs to work on it.
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Ok..

Like I said, I wasn't trying to defend McCarron.
 
WolverineFan said:
Peyton also beats pressure. So does Brady. That's why they're so good. A lot of people like Bridgewater because he's good against pressure.

Nobody really knew what McCarron was like under pressure because his O-Line was so good that he rarely saw any. He did in the Oklahoma game though and he laid an egg.
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During the playoffs last year when his line seemed to have a total breakdown, something he has hardly ever had to deal with, Peyton looked exactly like a taller version of Keenum.
 
Is this thread about Foster? Or McCarron, Peyton, Brady, Keenum? Kinda lost here


:drunk:
 
WolverineFan said:
Peyton also beats pressure. So does Brady. That's why they're so good. A lot of people like Bridgewater because he's good against pressure.

Nobody really knew what McCarron was like under pressure because his O-Line was so good that he rarely saw any. He did in the Oklahoma game though and he laid an egg.
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Was it as big as the 18-1 Brady-led Pats laid or the Peyton-led Broncos laid just this past Feb.? And those guys are highly paid, NFL-veteran QBs.

Anyone can crack if the pressure is high enough and consistent enough.

And how did we get from Foster to QBs anywho?
 
Marcus said:
I think the better question should be...

Should he have been given that big money contract to begin with?
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Nope this franchise seems to have a hard time forseeing in the future or at least 2 years ahead LOL giving away all these big money contracts to players who will not even be here


I blame KUBES and """""RICK SMITH""""""""
 
JB said:
Hey I've been on a diet, I thought was looking good!
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Not you. Our kicker looks like a Hobbit.

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What the heck do we have without Foster?

Letting him go or trading him based on almost no savings would be ignorant.

Remember back when he was one of the best in the league? Not that long ago ...

Lets see what he has left.
 
JB said:
Is this thread about Foster? Or McCarron, Peyton, Brady, Keenum? Kinda lost here


:drunk:
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You'll find you answer here (highlighted the relevant rule):

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mattieuk said:
You'll find you answer here (highlighted the relevant rule):TexansTalk.com Forum Rules
1.) Starting of the gameday thread without the approval of the approval of the most superstitious member of the board shall be punishable by implementation of a Tacks avatar for 7 days.
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I thought there were laws against Cruel and Unusual Punishment in this country
:foottap:
 
I'm surprised there are no cut Andre Johnson threads yet? A guy that's past his prime and by far the highest paid player on our team.

Now I am not saying we should cut him, but with the re-building tone of alot of people on here, just surprised I haven't seen it mentioned yet.

On a side note... the way his contract is structured, he's lined up for a sure-cut by 2016. He'll be getting paid +14M, but only 2.7 of it is dead money.
 
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