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Sexual Assault Suits Against Watson

Max said:
There's profiles like the one below for 'licensed massage therapist' (as well as profiles similar to the first one I posted). Somehow I doubt that DW would have contacted her because she appears to be legit. But I'm just guessing.


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Buzbee says the women he’s representing are all licensed
 
76Texan said:
Nothing to stop other plaintiffs to suddenly appear after a settlement with the original case.
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I believe there is a provision in civil law to discourage that, NDAs etc... Not saying it would have worked, just saying it couldn't have been any worse than a POd Buzbee seeking as much attention as he can get. I think Watson's manager really let him down. I think we'd be surprised if we knew how much hush money had been paid by celebrities through the years. An innocent man who says I'm not falling for your extortion and fights it is a hero. A guilty man that thumbs his nose at his victim and thinks he can get away with it is pretty low.
 
thunderkyss said:
Buzbee says the women he’s representing are all licensed
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Did Robert Kraft's therapist have a license? I'm not sure that a therapist's license rules out the possibility of the therapist being a prostitute.

The woman in first profile I linked is licensed as well.
 
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thunderkyss said:
Buzbee says the women he’s representing are all licensed
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Not to say they are not, but to be licensed by the State of Texas, you need to have completed 500 hours of supervised instruction in massage studies and then passed a national certification examination. The practice of massage therapy is regulated by the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation.
 
maverick512000 said:
Not saying I agree with it but it’s not much different than most work places. Ask yourself this, if you were accused of what Watson is, particularly this many times, would you still be employed?
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In the general case, probably not, but if you subsequently clear your name, you'll be free to work someplace else.

This isn't the general case however. The NFL operates a monopoly and I don't believe they should have this power given there's basically nowhere else to gain employment.

The players allowed this though, they have a union, and they mistakenly negotiated themselves into a position where a mere accusation can permanently end their careers based on Goodell's whim.
 
If you think hiring a professional is expensive wait until you hire an amateur.

Red Adair

but even Red Adair couldn’t put out all the fires this idiot started around himself.
 
I wonder if Watson paid with cash or credit card? Obviously during discovery they're gonna pull his financial records. A massage is usually $60-100, so if he paid considerably more than that, you know a Happy Ending was involved.
 
FireBOB said:
That's so obvious it shouldn't require stating. But while an accusation remains an accusation, nobody should be punished for anything.

The rest of your post, glorifying the NFL's power to arbitrarily dish out punishment for whatever unproved allegations they feel like is where we disagree.
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You need to email God'ell this post.
 
Max said:
Did Robert Kraft's therapist have a license? I'm not sure that a therapist's license rules out the possibility of the therapist being a prostitute.

The woman in first profile I linked is licensed as well.
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Just saying, even though you say you’re trying to be objective, your replies are coming across as anything but.

Your initial objection was that the massage therapist on Instagram present themselves as if they’re offering more than just a massage.

Now, even though at least one Instagram masseuse presents a professional image, you’re sure Watson was looking for the first kind. & as far as I know the women complaining have yet to be identified.

& now licensed masseuse are probably prostitutes as well.

Watson has said he reached out to these women for massages.

I don’t know that Watson is guilty. I don’t know that these women are sex workers. I know Watson is in trouble, regardless.

My hope is that he gets past this without admitting guilt or any wrongdoing & continues his promising career here in Houston
 
Kobe Bryant (RIP) resolved his rape case out of court and settled for undisclosed amount in civil court. The accuser stopped working with prosecutors after she was identified publicly and rung through the ringer.

Watson should go ahead and jump on the grenade and start donating to women’s support groups and create awareness.
 
Dejaview said:
I wonder when the Texans and the NFL in general became aware of this situation? Certainly before it broke on the media. Just seems odd that no other team seemed to be pushing for a trade, NC wasn’t even taking calls and the only camp sweating was DW’s. And wasn’t TT signed before the news broke...can’t remember. Could be the NFL has been involved for awhile?
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No he wasn’t signed before the new broke. A lot of these reporters were reporting several teams were putting in their bids for Watson.
 
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thunderkyss said:
Just saying, even though you say you’re trying to be objective, your replies are coming across as anything but.

Your initial objection was that the massage therapist on Instagram present themselves as if they’re offering more than just a massage.

Now, even though at least one Instagram masseuse presents a professional image, you’re sure Watson was looking for the first kind. & as far as I know the women complaining have yet to be identified.

& now licensed masseuse are probably prostitutes as well.

Watson has said he reached out to these women for massages.

I don’t know that Watson is guilty. I don’t know that these women are sex workers. I know Watson is in trouble, regardless.

My hope is that he gets past this without admitting guilt or any wrongdoing & continues his promising career here in Houston
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Three of the women were married and one engaged to be married.

My cousin and his wife are massage therapist so all of them are not prostitutes.
 
thunderkyss said:
Just saying, even though you say you’re trying to be objective, your replies are coming across as anything but.

Your initial objection was that the massage therapist on Instagram present themselves as if they’re offering more than just a massage.

Now, even though at least one Instagram masseuse presents a professional image, you’re sure Watson was looking for the first kind. & as far as I know the women complaining have yet to be identified.

& now licensed masseuse are probably prostitutes as well.

Watson has said he reached out to these women for massages.

I don’t know that Watson is guilty. I don’t know that these women are sex workers. I know Watson is in trouble, regardless.

My hope is that he gets past this without admitting guilt or any wrongdoing & continues his promising career here in Houston
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I fully acknowledge that I strongly suspect that DW was seeking out the profiles that seem to be advertising sex because it appears that he was looking for sex. I'm not sure why that wouldn't make sense to anyone. The suspicion is from complete guess work that I've acknowledged might be entirely wrong. And if I'm on the jury, I want to know which types of profiles these women have. If they have the 2nd type that seems professional, I'm more inclined to believe the women. If they have the first type that seem to be advertising sex, then I'm more likely to believe that DW went in with an expectation of sex and the women went in with the same. Each case would need to be looked at individually. I don't understand anyone that doesn't want to know how these women presented themselves on IG. To me, if you're not willing to look at that, then you're saying that it's not fair to judge the woman's side of the story which isn't fair to the accused.
 
As most of you already know, I’ve been a big Watson fan since his Clemson days. I was ecstatic when the Texans moved up in the 2017 draft to go get him, as I’ve always believed the kid has what it takes to win a Super Bowl for our city. With that said, I have taken a step back and put my fandom aside until they announce whether Watson is guilty or not.

I have known Anthony Buzbee (personally) since 2005, and know for a fact that he is NOT just some quack lawyer “looking for attention, or a payday” as lots of people on social media, TexansTalk, and Watson’s wannabe agent are claiming. Anthony Buzbee made a name for himself many years ago, and has gotten huge paydays over the years for taking down big corporations. He has given back to Houston low income communities for many years and still does so.

Yes, Buzbee is relentless when fighting for his clients, and will not leave a stone unturned when it comes to searching for evidence and dirt on opponents. He’s like a shark and doesn’t stop coming, especially when he smells blood. Most lawyers are ready to settle when they see they’re facing him.

None of us know how these cases will play out, but the truth will come out when it’s all said and done. So, brace yourself fellers cause we’re in for a hell of a ride!
 
thunderkyss said:
Just saying, even though you say you’re trying to be objective, your replies are coming across as anything but.

Your initial objection was that the massage therapist on Instagram present themselves as if they’re offering more than just a massage.

Now, even though at least one Instagram masseuse presents a professional image, you’re sure Watson was looking for the first kind. & as far as I know the women complaining have yet to be identified.
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Help me understand something so I can get a sense of if you're intentionally twisting what I'm saying or not. Can you show me where I've ever said that I'm 'sure' that Watson was looking for the first kind? I can point out several times that I've said that I'm guessing that he did. I can't find one time that I've said that I'm sure about anything regarding any of this.


thunderkyss said:
& now licensed masseuse are probably prostitutes as well.
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Do you literally think I said that all licensed masseuses are probably prostitutes?
 
This thread is teetering on the brink. Probably a good idea to stick with posting news stories about the matter at hand and commenting on them. Google IG masseuses, models, and prostitutes for your own edification and assume others are doing the same.
 
Lucky said:
This thread is teetering on the brink. Probably a good idea to stick with posting news stories about the matter at hand and commenting on them. Google IG masseuses, models, and prostitutes for your own edification and assume others are doing the same.
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I genuinely hope Hook'em is considering the nuclear option..
 
I wonder what these masseuses all look like? Were they all hotties, or were they just average looking but with magical hands?
 
Dejaview said:
will be if either side can’t come up with anything concrete. Otherwise it’s hearsay, public opinion and politics.
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Buzbee is very good at what he does.

That's what's going to be so entertaining. I can see Buzbee bringing 40 or more women on the stand to tell their stories and establish DW4's pattern. Also I can see Buzbee asking the jury if they've ever flew a massuse in from out of state to get a massage.

The last thing Buzbee will tell the jury is you can choose to believe 40 women or DW4. Maybe there will be a WOF fan on the jury and DW4 will get off. (Pun not intended) But I wouldn't bet on it, and this is after having his name drug through the mud. He needs to use his signing bonus and pay these women off. Then get back to playing football. Either with the Texans or with another team. What he wont be able to afford to do is hold out. This would be my advice to DW4.

Also if you think God'ell isn't going to hammer DW4 after he tried to break the NFL's pwer structure you're kidding yourself. The owners are going to get their pound of flesh. Newsflash, if you're going to take on the way the NFL does business, you better not have any skeletons in your closet.
 
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I assume if it's civil, he will serve NFL suspension and return on his 5th year option and is traded. If it turns criminal then the Texans may be able to null the extension and recoup some money.

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If he’s found guilty then hopefully the Harris County DA moves to prosecute him, and the NFL bans his ass for good. If innocent, then he can resume his career and everything will be forgotten in a season or two.
 
Max said:
I fully acknowledge that I strongly suspect that DW was seeking out the profiles that seem to be advertising sex because it appears that he was looking for sex. I'm not sure why that wouldn't make sense to anyone. The suspicion is from complete guess work that I've acknowledged might be entirely wrong. And if I'm on the jury, I want to know which types of profiles these women have. If they have the 2nd type that seems professional, I'm more inclined to believe the women. If they have the first type that seem to be advertising sex, then I'm more likely to believe that DW went in with an expectation of sex and the women went in with the same. Each case would need to be looked at individually. I don't understand anyone that doesn't want to know how these women presented themselves on IG. To me, if you're not willing to look at that, then you're saying that it's not fair to judge the woman's side of the story which isn't fair to the accused.
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The grand jury will be able to ask for and look at anything they think is relevant. In my opinion however, many cases are decided at the trial stage by judges who determine what can and can not be entered into evidence. I understand that irrelevant information should be avoided. I just feel more comfortable with 12 determining this than 1.
 
Texansballer74 said:
Man you didn’t know about Hopkins baby momma drama until Bill O’Brien supposedly leaked it. Lol man stop it. You found out about that stuff just everyone else on this forum did.
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OB didn't leak that , he was complicit in the coverup.

The first mention of the momma drama came from two sources that still haven't been named and the first mention of it other than from the source was my multiple "roundaboutism" posts between the time of the trade and October of 2020 of how funny the reason for the Hopkins trade was ... and later the mother goose and instagram hoes reference.


Texansballer74 said:
Joker I don’t worship no darn person ever. Let’s get that straight. And yes Watson played a darn good season last year, unfortunately his teammates and coaching let him down. But that is not the point period. Nobody on this darn page knew bleep about Watson’s personal life/ baggage.
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steelbtexan said:
Correct

But people on this page knew people who knew about DW4's personal life.
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While there were a couple people who knew about the infamous momma drama that led to DHop being traded , I don't think anyone had the slightest clue that things were as bad as they are..
Hell even at that time , it was seemingly an attempt to preserve the appearance of Watson's "wholesome nature" and making Hopkins out to be the bad influence.

There's been quite a few new pieces added to this puzzle since that first report that went completely unreported by the media and then Easterby's involvement where he made the initial call to Momma Watson who subsequently made the call to Janice that resulted in the ultimatum to get him gone.

In hindsight , I can see why there were no media leaks or reports of anything related to that call. It's pretty obvious that the team wasn't ignorant to the facts and they were attempting to sweep the entire mess under the rug.
 
FireBOB said:
In the general case, probably not, but if you subsequently clear your name, you'll be free to work someplace else.

This isn't the general case however. The NFL operates a monopoly and I don't believe they should have this power given there's basically nowhere else to gain employment.

The players allowed this though, they have a union, and they mistakenly negotiated themselves into a position where a mere accusation can permanently end their careers based on Goodell's whim.
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No "mistakenly" about it. They were too intent in decreasing their practice time, their contact practice time, their preseason and season game numbers, decreasing their drug/substance testing process, increasing their share in split in revenues, etc. The proper description is not "mistakenly".........it's more like greed, laziness and stupidity.
 
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Some additional food for thought for Watson to ponder...........

In Texas, the criminal statute of limitations for rape and other sexual assault offenses that involve a victim who is 18 or older is 10 years after the day the offense took place. The civil statute of limitations for sex crimes against adults is 5 years after the date the offense occurred.
 
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