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Sexual Assault Suits Against Watson
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OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Didn’t these women have viable businesses that supported their day to day lives before Watson entered their lives? If they did, a windfall would be exactly what it is…..a windfall.
leebigeztx
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I want to see some of the players compete.
Mangler
Toro de España
This Deshaun Cosby thread has really taken a strange turn and twist.
Seems like more and more posters are becoming super sensitive after Depredator’s cover was blown wide open. I can’t believe I actually witnessed a poster have an emotional meltdown, threaten to ban other posters for criticizing/bashing Derapist, then proceeding in going off the rails cursing and throwing a hissy fit.
What the heck is this? Everyone has an opinion and no opinion matters more than another. I can’t wait till the P.O.S’s punishment is announced, and the season finally begins so we all move forward cause this b*tchfest is really getting annoying.
Seems like more and more posters are becoming super sensitive after Depredator’s cover was blown wide open. I can’t believe I actually witnessed a poster have an emotional meltdown, threaten to ban other posters for criticizing/bashing Derapist, then proceeding in going off the rails cursing and throwing a hissy fit.
What the heck is this? Everyone has an opinion and no opinion matters more than another. I can’t wait till the P.O.S’s punishment is announced, and the season finally begins so we all move forward cause this b*tchfest is really getting annoying.
Dutchrudder
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Who the hell is "Derrick"?
Mangler
Toro de España
Derrick is Derapist Cosby’s actual first name.
Carr Bombed
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...and both derricks spill oil everywhere lol.
Carr Bombed
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I don't understand why we're even attacking each other.. There's 1 person who caused all of this crap, 1 person that embarrassed this city and team. People might roll their eyes at the latter thinking "They were already a embarrassment"..and they were. Watson drug this franchise to another level of embarrassment and honestly I can't find much fault with Houston other than they took the hook just like almost everyone else. They believed he was who he portrayed himself as.. He's the p.o.s. I attack him.
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OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
I’m just glad that the Texans re-hooked this bait fish and threw his arse back in the NFL waters and got that trophy fish…the Browns to bite.
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Texansballer74
The Marine
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
In reality did anyone NOT think these suits would be settled by DW? Seems to me most of the butt hurt here is that the two sides to the issue went waaaaay too far into their individual pov’s so somebody was going to lose In the end. The huge result of all of this is there is finally closure for this team with this guy, we got great draft possibilities for a few more years and we seem to have improved our coaching staff and team moral and to me there is a definite higher degree of professionalism surrounding the Texans going forward. I always thought this is what everyone wanted, it’s here so bring on the tailgating wherever that might be for everyone.
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CloakNNNdagger
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Texans’ settlement with 30 accusers has pros and cons for Deshaun Watson
Posted by Mike Florio on July 16, 2022, 8:38 AM EDT
On the surface, the decision of the Houston Texans to settle with one woman who had sued the team over former quarterback Deshaun Watson‘s alleged misconduct and with 29 others who had not yet sued has no impact on Watson. The claims against him — four still pending and, based on the Houston settlement, up to six who could still sue him — are not affected. At a deeper level, there are pros and cons to Houston settling.
The good news is that, if/when the cases against the Texans go to trial, Watson won’t get dragged into that litigation as a witness. He would have been potentially questioned under oath in advance of each trial (in the form of a deposition), and he undoubtedly would have been called to testify at each and every trial. Even if he had settled all of the cases pending against him by then, he would have faced tough questioning from attorney Tony Buzbee and possibly from the team’s lawyer, based on the specific defense(s) developed and asserted before a jury. The team could have tried to show that Watson did nothing wrong and, in turn, the team did nothing wrong. The team alternatively could have tried to blame it all on Watson, that he’s the one who should have been pursued for compensation for any wrongdoing.
Along those same lines, the settlement avoids what would have been a very awkward dynamic. If the cases against the Texans would have been filed directly against the team and not added to the existing cases (that’s how the first one was presented), the Texans would have potentially added Watson to the cases as a third-party defendant when formally responding to each lawsuit, arguing that Watson is responsible for any alleged harm suffered, not the team. The headline easily could have been, “Texans sue Deshaun Watson.” The settlements by the Texans avoid this procedural complication.
The bad news is that, for the four pending cases and the six potential additional ones, the settlements will help fund the ongoing litigation. Although the amount isn’t known and may never be, any amount paid to the women still suing or who will be suing Watson can be used to help pay the expenses in the four cases still pending against him. It also could embolden those who have refused settlement offers to hold even more firm in their positions, and to insist on having a public trial.
On that point, Watson and his lawyers may be entitled to learn within the confines of the pending cases the amounts paid by the Texans. The Texans and Buzbee surely would fight any such effort. Watson, through his lawyers, may argue that the information could be relevant to the remaining litigation, and thus is fair game for the discovery process. If the settlements are low, the potential argument would be that it shows the cases are weak. If the settlements are high, Watson could try to get credit dollar-for-dollar credit against any verdict entered against him. Again, the team and Buzbee would surely fight any such attempt to introduce the settlement amounts in open court.
It’s still a two-edged sword for Watson. The more the Texans pay, the more it appears that there was a reason to pay. That the Texans had known about Watson’s alleged wrongdoing and failed to stop it. That Watson had indeed engaged in wrongdoing.
Regardless, the bottom line is that the situation, which was on the verge of becoming hopelessly complicated with up to 30 fresh lawsuits against the Texans, has become streamlined. From the NFL’s perspective, that’s good news. It guarantees that, once the remaining cases against Watson end, this protracted distraction will finally be over.
Posted by Mike Florio on July 16, 2022, 8:38 AM EDT
On the surface, the decision of the Houston Texans to settle with one woman who had sued the team over former quarterback Deshaun Watson‘s alleged misconduct and with 29 others who had not yet sued has no impact on Watson. The claims against him — four still pending and, based on the Houston settlement, up to six who could still sue him — are not affected. At a deeper level, there are pros and cons to Houston settling.
The good news is that, if/when the cases against the Texans go to trial, Watson won’t get dragged into that litigation as a witness. He would have been potentially questioned under oath in advance of each trial (in the form of a deposition), and he undoubtedly would have been called to testify at each and every trial. Even if he had settled all of the cases pending against him by then, he would have faced tough questioning from attorney Tony Buzbee and possibly from the team’s lawyer, based on the specific defense(s) developed and asserted before a jury. The team could have tried to show that Watson did nothing wrong and, in turn, the team did nothing wrong. The team alternatively could have tried to blame it all on Watson, that he’s the one who should have been pursued for compensation for any wrongdoing.
Along those same lines, the settlement avoids what would have been a very awkward dynamic. If the cases against the Texans would have been filed directly against the team and not added to the existing cases (that’s how the first one was presented), the Texans would have potentially added Watson to the cases as a third-party defendant when formally responding to each lawsuit, arguing that Watson is responsible for any alleged harm suffered, not the team. The headline easily could have been, “Texans sue Deshaun Watson.” The settlements by the Texans avoid this procedural complication.
The bad news is that, for the four pending cases and the six potential additional ones, the settlements will help fund the ongoing litigation. Although the amount isn’t known and may never be, any amount paid to the women still suing or who will be suing Watson can be used to help pay the expenses in the four cases still pending against him. It also could embolden those who have refused settlement offers to hold even more firm in their positions, and to insist on having a public trial.
On that point, Watson and his lawyers may be entitled to learn within the confines of the pending cases the amounts paid by the Texans. The Texans and Buzbee surely would fight any such effort. Watson, through his lawyers, may argue that the information could be relevant to the remaining litigation, and thus is fair game for the discovery process. If the settlements are low, the potential argument would be that it shows the cases are weak. If the settlements are high, Watson could try to get credit dollar-for-dollar credit against any verdict entered against him. Again, the team and Buzbee would surely fight any such attempt to introduce the settlement amounts in open court.
It’s still a two-edged sword for Watson. The more the Texans pay, the more it appears that there was a reason to pay. That the Texans had known about Watson’s alleged wrongdoing and failed to stop it. That Watson had indeed engaged in wrongdoing.
Regardless, the bottom line is that the situation, which was on the verge of becoming hopelessly complicated with up to 30 fresh lawsuits against the Texans, has become streamlined. From the NFL’s perspective, that’s good news. It guarantees that, once the remaining cases against Watson end, this protracted distraction will finally be over.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Cleveland media. Hypocritical much?
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CLEVELAND.COM
Time for the NFL to penalize the Houston Texans for their role in the Deshaun Watson case – Terry Pluto
Updated: Jul. 15, 2022, 3:07 p.m. | Published: Jul. 15, 2022, 2:07 p.m.
By Terry Pluto, cleveland.com Sports writer fpr the Cleveland Plain Dealer
CLEVELAND, Ohio – Now that the Houston Texans have settled lawsuits with 30 women in the Deshaun Watson case, the NFL needs to act.
Time to do more than fine the Texans. Take away some draft picks.
A New York Times story by Jenny Vrentas revealed how the Texans supplied Watson with a suite at a Houston hotel, where the quarterback met various massage therapists. The story also stated a member of the Texans organization gave Watson a non-disclosure agreement form. Watson was supposed to have those signed by the therapists before the massages began.
This is disgraceful conduct by the team, which should have demanded Watson receive his treatments at the team facility. At the very least, the team should not have helped Watson in his unsavory activities.
From a pure business perspective, Watson is a multi-million dollar investment. The Texans should want him receiving the best medical treatment. And yes, legitimate massage therapy is a medical treatment.
But Houston wanted to placate its star quarterback.
Keep in mind, these must not have been isolated incidents. The settlement states 30 women – that’s 10 more than Watson has settled with in his own case.
We can ask, “What was Watson doing?” But the NFL must ask, “What was Houston doing? Is this how we want our teams to act?”
The answer must be a loud “NO!” with a significant penalty attached to it when it comes to Houston.
Lots of attention has been placed on Watson’s actions with the massage therapists and what (if any) suspension he receives from the NFL. From the moment the New York Times story broke, I wrote a column urging the NFL to investigate the Texans for their role in the case.
Granted, the Texans settling cases with the women probably included non-disclosure agreements. But that doesn’t mean the NFL should ignore the role played by Houston.
For the record, the Texans deny they did anything wrong.
Here’s part of their statement: “We were shocked and deeply saddened when we first learned of the allegations against our then franchise quarterback in March 2021. Although our organization did not have any knowledge of Deshaun Watson’s alleged misconduct, we have intentionally chosen to resolve this matter amicably. This is not an admission of any wrongdoing, but instead a clear stand against any form of sexual assault and misconduct.”
Then why settle? The NFL must ask Houston that question.
Yes, Watson has since been traded to the Browns, where his playing status is pending before the NFL. But right now, it’s time for the league to take away draft picks from Houston – and send a message to other teams that this will not be tolerated.
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CLEVELAND.COM
Time for the NFL to penalize the Houston Texans for their role in the Deshaun Watson case – Terry Pluto
Updated: Jul. 15, 2022, 3:07 p.m. | Published: Jul. 15, 2022, 2:07 p.m.
By Terry Pluto, cleveland.com Sports writer fpr the Cleveland Plain Dealer
CLEVELAND, Ohio – Now that the Houston Texans have settled lawsuits with 30 women in the Deshaun Watson case, the NFL needs to act.
Time to do more than fine the Texans. Take away some draft picks.
A New York Times story by Jenny Vrentas revealed how the Texans supplied Watson with a suite at a Houston hotel, where the quarterback met various massage therapists. The story also stated a member of the Texans organization gave Watson a non-disclosure agreement form. Watson was supposed to have those signed by the therapists before the massages began.
This is disgraceful conduct by the team, which should have demanded Watson receive his treatments at the team facility. At the very least, the team should not have helped Watson in his unsavory activities.
From a pure business perspective, Watson is a multi-million dollar investment. The Texans should want him receiving the best medical treatment. And yes, legitimate massage therapy is a medical treatment.
But Houston wanted to placate its star quarterback.
Keep in mind, these must not have been isolated incidents. The settlement states 30 women – that’s 10 more than Watson has settled with in his own case.
We can ask, “What was Watson doing?” But the NFL must ask, “What was Houston doing? Is this how we want our teams to act?”
The answer must be a loud “NO!” with a significant penalty attached to it when it comes to Houston.
Lots of attention has been placed on Watson’s actions with the massage therapists and what (if any) suspension he receives from the NFL. From the moment the New York Times story broke, I wrote a column urging the NFL to investigate the Texans for their role in the case.
Granted, the Texans settling cases with the women probably included non-disclosure agreements. But that doesn’t mean the NFL should ignore the role played by Houston.
For the record, the Texans deny they did anything wrong.
Here’s part of their statement: “We were shocked and deeply saddened when we first learned of the allegations against our then franchise quarterback in March 2021. Although our organization did not have any knowledge of Deshaun Watson’s alleged misconduct, we have intentionally chosen to resolve this matter amicably. This is not an admission of any wrongdoing, but instead a clear stand against any form of sexual assault and misconduct.”
Then why settle? The NFL must ask Houston that question.
Yes, Watson has since been traded to the Browns, where his playing status is pending before the NFL. But right now, it’s time for the league to take away draft picks from Houston – and send a message to other teams that this will not be tolerated.
austins23
Hall of Fame
Lol, good one...and both derricks spill oil everywhere lol.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Texansballer74
The Marine
Yea a low-life scumbag like Buzzbutt gets a law degree and every once in awhile he'll hit the jackpot because he stumbled across a target with deep pockets and his plaintiffs who in this situation many if not most of whom may have got nothing more than an insult and an uninvited pat on the azz fall into far and away the biggest payday of their lifes.
CloakNNNdagger
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Carr Bombed
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What a hack.. He's wrong on so many levels
CloakNNNdagger
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Carr Bombed
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Hold on a second.. was it reported that the Texans settled for "tens of millions" or is this jackass just pulling .... out of his ass? I love how these idiots crucify the Texans and then bend over backwards making excuses for a light punishment for the guy who actually victimized multiple dozens of women. Stay classy Cleveland.
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CloakNNNdagger
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Solomon: The Texans aren’t interested in the truth of Deshaun Watson’s mess
Jerome Solomon, Staff writer
July 16, 2022Updated: July 16, 2022 8:21 p.m.
Jerome Solomon, Staff writer
July 16, 2022Updated: July 16, 2022 8:21 p.m.
4 with probably another 25-30 waiting to see the outcome before they file their complaints. I really wouldn't be surprised to see the number reach 100. This is far from over.
I dont hate anybody. I just have the ability to recognize phonies when I see them. Current example: Easterby
What false info have I put out there? Double Barrel and Corrosion put that info about the 2 mama's out there. Not me, although I've heard the same thing they've reported. Speaking of Hopkins mouth, we dont here much from that piece of trash anymore. Wonder why?
Carr Bombed
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Another idiot.. Texans did exactly what Watson should've done from the beginning. Yeah Jerome, the Texans should've fought this
Pretty sure the league would've been thrilled with that.You ever been to Disney world.. The lines are death and then you see families who paid upfront smiling ear to ear who bypassed all of that crap.. Texans paid/settled to get a fast track pass off shit mountain.
Corporations do this all the time, it's normal operating procedure. Better to pay pennies on the dollar settling what would or could become a long dragged out negative spotlight and coverage on their company.
Jerome Solomon comes off as a jaded gossip communist who's upset the Texans aren't going to supply him with months or a entire year plus of gossip to write about like Watson did.. The sooner Jerome moves on to another city the better, his takes/ "reporting" are crap.
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CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Solomon is Houston sport's shock jock version of Howard Stern.
When the Post shut down, Solomon stopped being a sports reporter
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
If a decision by Robinson is not handed down by Wednesday and there is any appeal, the ultimate decision will bleed into the beginning of TC.
Carr Bombed
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So glad we don't have to deal with this anymore, whatever the settlement was the McNair family paid, I'm glad they spent it. Sure is expensive toilet paper.. what a mess Watson left in his wake.
I'm hoping this lasts throughout training camp. I want the Browns/Derrick to suffer as much as possible. (Hopefully this dysfunction leads to the Texans higher picks from the Browns.) I cant figure out why any Texans fan wouldn't feel this way.
frethack
Rookie
I understand the sentiment. He shouldn't be allowed to play this year. But if I'm honest, I hope the entire mess is resolved quickly and the remaining four women get P. A. I. D.
A lot.
Let everyone but Watson have whatever peace they can find.
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I just cannot fathom Judge Robinson not ruling that a violation occurred. Also, the Jones situation is not comparable. Watson insisted on these women being alone when he sought out massages, which is a sure sign of a predator. Going into someone’s mother’s home. According to the policy if you put anyone in possible danger that is a violation. There’s just too much going against him.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Regardless if we hear from Hopkins or not, he said he knew he could force his way out by asking for an extension. Those were his words to a T. So are we to believe posters or the actual player? Speaking of Esterby. You stated he was here to clean up the mess, but now he's a phony? He's always been a phony. Even before the off the field stuff came out, players said as much, he lied on his resume to boot and was caught. The same guy who gave a sermon after Watson signed his contract went dark when articles began popping up about him.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Maybe people don't relish in others misery. How about Texans fans worry about the Texans.
CloakNNNdagger
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The vets will actually report on the 26th (rookies on the 22nd), and the first practice, although closed, will occur on the 27th. Practices on the 28th and 29th will also be closed. The first practice open to the public occurs on the 30th.
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I am worrying about the Texans and the picks they will be getting from the Browns. The more the misery the Browns/Derrick suffer, the greater the chances of the Texans getting a higher pick.
Speaking of misery, I bet some haven't even considered the amount of misery these women have been put through. So if Derrick has to go through a little bit of misery so be it. While these women were suffering Derrick/Jilly were traveling the world while earning 10 mil for doing nothing.
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I was just pointing out that it wasn't me that put that info out there. That was the error in your post.
With Easterby, both things can be accurate.
Carr Bombed
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Anyone want to ride the lightning? Lol
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Again, the Texans chose to pay this. They didnt have to. They could've pressed him and made him play. Speaking of the misery of the women, I can speak on that because unlike some,I've been volunteering at Star of Hope for over 20 years talking to homeless and abused women. When I talk about the fake outrage, it really is. There is alot of of self serving lip service thats in this thread. The NFL nor the Texans really care as is alot of posters
TexansBull
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“Ride the lightning”? Lol. That’s what one should ask their old lady next time.
“Want to ride the lighting tonight, babe? I promise it will be over quick like lightning!”
Carr Bombed
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Wow get off your freaking pedestal...
"Lip service".. no the outrage is real.. Let me spell it out, a sister, a p.o.s., after what he did a 10 year prison sentence.
He beat her so bad he fractured her skull, he should've been charged with attempted murder. How's that for lip service. But hey, you volunteered.. Everyone knows someone who has been abused, sadly you don't have to volunteer at a homeless shelter to experience it.
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You didn't address the part of my post where this dragging out could help the Texans in the draft. (Shocking)
I'm also around a bunch of poor and abused women with what I do for work. Drug infested areas. So you don't have the market cornered on being the only person to 1st hand witness misery.
Faux outrage? I'm not mad now that he's gone. Never really was mad, in fact I said the McNair's got what they deserved for signing him to that contract, instead of making him play out his 5th yr option like I suggested at the time.
Not all abused women go to a shelter. Many cannot. Just an fyi.
CloakNNNdagger
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Looks to be a fake ID.