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Selection 1.1: JaDeveon Clowney DE-OLB

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It's not just about doubling guys every play, too. They will be moving these guys around, creating confusion, and attacking from many directions. They will be looking for weaknesses to exploit, especially mismatches when the Texans defense throws some wrinkles in the pre-snap formations.
 
Double Barrel said:
It's not just about doubling guys every play, too. They will be moving these guys around, creating confusion, and attacking from many directions. They will be looking for weaknesses to exploit, especially mismatches when the Texans defense throws some wrinkles in the pre-snap formations.
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Yep.

If clowney can harness that potential this defense is going to be good. The end.

It would be really hard to have watt and clowney (reaching his ceiling) and be a bad defense.
 
Texian said:
Clowney was the Texans, "We don't want to fail pick". The next best option pick. Clowney was the play it safe pick. The Texans were afraid of failing.
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...."In the end Clowney was the smart pick and was made in large part based on fear; the team was afraid of passing up such a potentially dominant defender."

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2014/5/21/5737952/blake-bortles-houston-texans-nfl-draft-2014

The Texans like so many here are guilty of thinking inside the box.
 
Texian said:
...."In the end Clowney was the smart pick and was made in large part based on fear; the team was afraid of passing up such a potentially dominant defender."

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2014/5/21/5737952/blake-bortles-houston-texans-nfl-draft-2014

The Texans like so many here are guilty of thinking inside the box.
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I have no idea if you are correct about why the Texans drafted Clowney. I was certainly hoping for a trade down, and I am very worried about his poor production in 2013...

That being said, finding a quote by a person making pure, unsubstantiated conjecture is not real evidence to support your pure, unsubstantiated conjecture.
 
Texian said:
...."In the end Clowney was the smart pick and was made in large part based on fear; the team was afraid of passing up such a potentially dominant defender."

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2014/5/21/5737952/blake-bortles-houston-texans-nfl-draft-2014

The Texans like so many here are guilty of thinking inside the box.
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Clowney is doing and saying all the right things right now. He's out there working, getting the playbook down, getting coached up, etc.

If he lives up to the what he has shown his entire career at South Carolina, he was well worth the 1st overall pick. I don't believe for a second that fear had to do with any of this. Back when the Texans drafted JJ Watt (you were very disappointed with the pick) but the Texans ended up looking like geniuses in that draft and it really didn't have much to do with his on the field success.

1. Cam Newton - Solid pick, is a game-changing QB.
2. Von Miller - While a great athlete, he was suspended 6 games, he was pulled over with a suspended license, and is constantly in small legal problems.
3. Marcell Dareus - Arrested in Alabama for possession of "Synthetic Marijuana."
4. A.J. Green - Fantastic pick for that franchise.
5. Patrick Peterson - Also a great pick.
6. Julio Jones - If not for his season-ending injury last season, he'd have been a valuable piece to the Falcons offense every single year he's been in ATL.
7. Aldon Smith - Drunk in an airport, threatening that he had a bomb in his bag, etc. Complete moron.
8. Jake Locker - .....lol.
9. Tyron Smith - Solid piece in that Dallas offensive front.
10. Blaine Gabbert - .....lol :spit:
11. JJ Watt - DPOY, fantastic person to the community, loved by many in the NFL, etc.

Some here wanted Aldon Smith and boy, aren't we glad that that didn't happen. (We also wanted Peterson which in comparison ON the field wouldn't have been as great a pick, but Peterson would have still been a play-maker.)

My point in all that was that the Texans do their homework on players and tend to get smart, classy players to build around this organization. No off the field issues.
 
dalemurphy said:
I have no idea if you are correct about why the Texans drafted Clowney. I was certainly hoping for a trade down, and I am very worried about his poor production in 2013...

That being said, finding a quote by a person making pure, unsubstantiated conjecture is not real evidence to support your pure, unsubstantiated conjecture.
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I have the same concerns as you, but the kid has come in and said and done all the right things. I'm mildly encouraged and very much looking forward to TC (training camp, not Texans Chick :) ) and seeing if his actions live up to his words.

I've actually come around to thinking Houston is the best place Clowney could've landed. He's not the best player on the team for the 1st time in his life. Being on the team with JJ, Cush and AJ plus a rookie coaching staff that emphasis "team" over "individual" gives JD the best possible chance to maximize his talents and be a force in the NFL. He has a much better chance to reach his potential, due to surroundings and circumstance, than Mario did when he was drafted. In 2006, the Texans needed Mario to be great. In 2014, the Texans need JD to be good and learn his position. Hind sight being what it is, I'd love to see where Mario would be if he'd re-signed with the Texans and played next to JJ.

I wonder where we would've drafted in 2014 in that scenario. I doubt it would 1.20 or higher. Regardless of QB play and PK accuracy.

Think about that and consider where the Texans
 
AngryNateFTW said:
Clowney is doing and saying all the right things right now. He's out there working, getting the playbook down, getting coached up, etc.

If he lives up to the what he has shown his entire career at South Carolina, he was well worth the 1st overall pick. I don't believe for a second that fear had to do with any of this. Back when the Texans drafted JJ Watt (you were very disappointed with the pick) but the Texans ended up looking like geniuses in that draft and it really didn't have much to do with his on the field success.

1. Cam Newton - Solid pick, is a game-changing QB.
2. Von Miller - While a great athlete, he was suspended 6 games, he was pulled over with a suspended license, and is constantly in small legal problems.
3. Marcell Dareus - Arrested in Alabama for possession of "Synthetic Marijuana."
4. A.J. Green - Fantastic pick for that franchise.
5. Patrick Peterson - Also a great pick.
6. Julio Jones - If not for his season-ending injury last season, he'd have been a valuable piece to the Falcons offense every single year he's been in ATL.
7. Aldon Smith - Drunk in an airport, threatening that he had a bomb in his bag, etc. Complete moron.
8. Jake Locker - .....lol.
9. Tyron Smith - Solid piece in that Dallas offensive front.
10. Blaine Gabbert - .....lol :spit:
11. JJ Watt - DPOY, fantastic person to the community, loved by many in the NFL, etc.

Some here wanted Aldon Smith and boy, aren't we glad that that didn't happen. (We also wanted Peterson which in comparison ON the field wouldn't have been as great a pick, but Peterson would have still been a play-maker.)

My point in all that was that the Texans do their homework on players and tend to get smart, classy players to build around this organization. No off the field issues.
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I'd start a charity fund to pay for ICak and TC's retainer fee's and expect to get a selfie with the :trophy: while on a float in the SB parade in downtown Houston!!!!

Man, I wish that complete moron played for the Texans. I'd chip in for his rehab and counseling sessions.



Just my opinion.:fostering:
 
AngryNateFTW said:
Back when the Texans drafted JJ Watt (you were very disappointed with the pick) but the Texans ended up looking like geniuses in that draft and it really didn't have much to do with his on the field success.
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You're right Nate, I was, for about 15 minutes. You know that Nate because I posted the quote, several times, where I said drafting Watt was brilliant within minutes after posting my displeasure with the pick. In fact I was one first to applaud the pick. I thought it was brilliant because it allowed Wade to move Mario to OLB. But you knew that also. If you're going to tell a story, tell the whole story.

As for the Texans drafting Watt that is one of the VERY FEW bright spots in Texans draft history since Rick Smith arrived on seen with his new scouting staff.
 
Texian said:
You're right Nate, I was, for about 15 minutes. You know that Nate because I posted the quote, several times, where I said drafting Watt was brilliant within minutes after posting my displeasure with the pick. In fact I was one first to applaud the pick. I thought it was brilliant because it allowed Wade to move Mario to OLB. But you knew that also. If you're going to tell a story, tell the whole story.
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You wouldn't need to defend yourself so rigorously if you weren't so premature to assert absolute certainty about so many things that are uncertain.

By the way, as great as the Watt pick was, I'd say the freedom to move Mario to OLB hardly figures into the equation. We drafted the best defensive player in a decade at a position that impacts all aspects of the defense on every play... Meanwhile, Mario is in Buffalo continuing to make an impact about 4 weeks per season.
 
dalemurphy said:
You wouldn't need to defend yourself so rigorously if you weren't so premature to assert absolute certainty about so many things that are uncertain.

By the way, as great as the Watt pick was, I'd say the freedom to move Mario to OLB hardly figures into the equation. We drafted the best defensive player in a decade at a position that impacts all aspects of the defense on every play... Meanwhile, Mario is in Buffalo continuing to make an impact about 4 weeks per season.
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See post 457 and give an opinion, please.
 
This one is for Nate:

STOP the Presses! Get ready for this. Texian is about to shock the board*******

Picking JJ Watt may actually be a stroke of Genius. Yes thats right I said it, Wade may have pulled off a brilliant move. Provided he can move Mario to the Demarcus Ware position and there is no reason to think he can't. Pretty ballsy though making the pick on an assumption and not really knowing. But if it works, BRILLIANT!

http://boards.houstontexans.com/showpost.php?p=391180&postcount=258
 
Texian said:
This one is for Nate:

STOP the Presses! Get ready for this. Texian is about to shock the board*******

Picking JJ Watt may actually be a stroke of Genius. Yes thats right I said it, Wade may have pulled off a brilliant move. Provided he can move Mario to the Demarcus Ware position and there is no reason to think he can't. Pretty ballsy though making the pick on an assumption and not really knowing. But if it works, BRILLIANT!

http://boards.houstontexans.com/showpost.php?p=391180&postcount=258
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I know the Watt pick really eeks you. :D especially the part where you said he wouldn't be known for sacking the QB. I concur though, you did immediately mention how drafting Watt and moving Mario to OLB would bolster our defensive front 7 which it did.
 
Texian said:
...."In the end Clowney was the smart pick and was made in large part based on fear; the team was afraid of passing up such a potentially dominant defender."

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2014/5/21/5737952/blake-bortles-houston-texans-nfl-draft-2014

The Texans like so many here are guilty of thinking inside the box.
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This is the guy you're quoting.
 
Texian said:
This one is for Nate:

STOP the Presses! Get ready for this. Texian is about to shock the board*******

Picking JJ Watt may actually be a stroke of Genius. Yes thats right I said it, Wade may have pulled off a brilliant move. Provided he can move Mario to the Demarcus Ware position and there is no reason to think he can't. Pretty ballsy though making the pick on an assumption and not really knowing. But if it works, BRILLIANT!

http://boards.houstontexans.com/showpost.php?p=391180&postcount=258
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All picks are "an assumption". The organization may have confidence in the pick, but that is not to be confused with certainty. Do you really think the Texans viewed the Watt pick as risky? I doubt it. I think they were confident that he was the best choice...

Learn the difference in these two words: Confidence, Certainty- They actually mean things very different.
 
DocBar said:
I have the same concerns as you, but the kid has come in and said and done all the right things. I'm mildly encouraged and very much looking forward to TC (training camp, not Texans Chick :) ) and seeing if his actions live up to his words.

I've actually come around to thinking Houston is the best place Clowney could've landed. He's not the best player on the team for the 1st time in his life. Being on the team with JJ, Cush and AJ plus a rookie coaching staff that emphasis "team" over "individual" gives JD the best possible chance to maximize his talents and be a force in the NFL. He has a much better chance to reach his potential, due to surroundings and circumstance, than Mario did when he was drafted. In 2006, the Texans needed Mario to be great. In 2014, the Texans need JD to be good and learn his position. Hind sight being what it is, I'd love to see where Mario would be if he'd re-signed with the Texans and played next to JJ.

I wonder where we would've drafted in 2014 in that scenario. I doubt it would 1.20 or higher. Regardless of QB play and PK accuracy.

Think about that and consider where the Texans
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I am hopeful that Clowney will work out. Being a believer in Rick Smith, the fact that he selected Clowney is encouraging... For those who do not believe in Smith, perhaps the opposite is true.

Regarding the expectations the team has for Clowney vs. Mario- I think the organization as a whole sees players differently. I think there will be less focus on the performance of the individual, not just because of BoB but also because of the system/philosophy of Crennel's defense. One other point- it is easier to have lower expectations for a guy with a 5yr-$24 million contract than with a guy making over $50 million... So, simply the changed salary structure of the draft, makes a huge difference IMO.
 
thunderkyss said:
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This is the guy you're quoting.
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Nah brah, a random blogger for another team totally knows exactly what the Texans were gonna do man. He totally talked to Rick and Bill and they told him they were scared.

Why would this guy, whose team has needed a QB for a while and just drafted one #3 overall, want to get on the Bortles hype train? Totally legit source.

:sarcasm:

Plus, the guy even says in the quote that Clowney was the smart pick... Do we want them making unsmart pick?
 
dalemurphy said:
I am hopeful that Clowney will work out. Being a believer in Rick Smith, the fact that he selected Clowney is encouraging... For those who do not believe in Smith, perhaps the opposite is true.
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"I hated the pick until Rick Smith made it." Really? A 10 year old with a Kiper draft guide could have made that pick.
 
NCTexan said:
Nah brah, a random blogger for another team totally knows exactly what the Texans were gonna do man. He totally talked to Rick and Bill and they told him they were scared.
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But he had a totally, 100%, grade A credible source:

Texian
[IMGwidthsize=200]http://funny.funnyoldplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/dweeb-glasses.jpg[/IMG]
 
dalemurphy said:
That being said, finding a quote by a person making pure, unsubstantiated conjecture is not real evidence to support your pure, unsubstantiated conjecture.
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thunderkyss said:
This is the guy you're quoting.
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infantrycak said:
But he had a totally, 100%, grade A credible source:
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The guy who actually made the quote was Tony Pauline, who has more credibility than anyone on this board. He did know the name on the second card. He just doesn't rise to level of silly or is as full of the many excuses that can be found here.

http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=9760
 
Texian said:
The guy who actually made the quote was Tony Pauline, who has more credibility than anyone on this board. He did know the name on the second card. He just doesn't rise to level of silly or is as full of the many excuses that can be found here.

http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=9760
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Ah Texian it's all in good fun. You've been an awesome addition to the draft section.

I'm still confused as how it being "the smart pick" is a bad thing though.
 
Texian said:
The guy who actually made the quote was Tony Pauline, who has more credibility than anyone on this board. He did know the name on the second card. He just doesn't rise to level of silly or is as full of the many excuses that can be found here.
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I know you love to latch onto any rumor or anonymous claim which agrees with your agenda as handed down from on high. Assuming he did know the name on the card, which I have no problem with, I have serious doubts one of the Texans privy to the decision making ran out to him and said "we were scared." But you will believe as you want.
 
Double Barrel said:
That Tony Pauline, he sure knows his stuff, being so credible and all:

Tony Pauline Says Browns “Are Looking At and Leaning Toward Mike Evans” at No. 4

He sure had the pulse of the Browns, so no doubt the Texans front office called him before making their picks, too.

But I see why Texian loves him some Tony Pauline:

NFL Mock Draft 2014: Tony Pauline projects Blake Bortles No. 1 overall :heart:
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When you have Clowney rated a 7.5 and Bortles not even the highest rated QB at 6.2 , he wasn't going #1 .
 
Lol at you guys still paying attention to Texian...dude will stop at nothing to get his agenda out there about Bortles....


I'm honestly convinced that he's somehow related to this dude.
 
Pauline is a decent dude; he actually called the Savage pick awhile back, saying on Twitter that O'Brien preferred Tom or Zach Mettenberger over drafting a QB first overall. Big Cat Country has some pretty decent writers; y'all should give their overview of the different defensive formations (4-3/3-4/Seattle's "Leo" defense, etc.) sometime.

That said, I don't know why anyone bothers replying to Texian on this subject any more. All of his original posts in this topic have been him pooh-poohing the Clowney pick as if that will change anything.
 
So I'm still feeling giddy about securing "JD" with our 1.1, and for that matter the whole Draft we had this year, the more I consider it the more I like it.
But good, bad, or indifferent (depending on your perspective), who is JD most like in terms of pass-rushers of the recent past and what kind of career do you guys see for him ? There's a chance he could compare to Demarcus Ware, but that's a big target. A Jevon Kearse career wouldn't be too shabby, but I'm hoping for more than that. Or maybe you think he'll be a total bust, and if so how long before he's out of the league ?
 
dalemurphy said:
I am hopeful that Clowney will work out. Being a believer in Rick Smith, the fact that he selected Clowney is encouraging... For those who do not believe in Smith, perhaps the opposite is true.

Regarding the expectations the team has for Clowney vs. Mario- I think the organization as a whole sees players differently. I think there will be less focus on the performance of the individual, not just because of BoB but also because of the system/philosophy of Crennel's defense. One other point- it is easier to have lower expectations for a guy with a 5yr-$24 million contract than with a guy making over $50 million... So, simply the changed salary structure of the draft, makes a huge difference IMO.
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What makes you believe in Smith, 2-14 and 7 yrs on the job? If you had a job performance like that I would hope that you would be fired. Of course when your sons godfather is the owners son things change.

Could your admiration have to do with the fact that Kubiak failed and you cant let go of the past. We all want the same thing, (The Texans to be SB champs) but you are tending to hold onto the past and don't seem to have the abilty to consider that you may have been wrong when judging the past regime. Of course those pom poms tend to blur ones vision at times.

The Texans are a billion $$$$ corporation and they will do what they think is best for business, not necessarily winning football games. I've come to accept this as a Texans fan and hope you can too. If they happen to win along the way that's a great bonus.
 
IDEXAN said:
So I'm still feeling giddy about securing "JD" with our 1.1, and for that matter the whole Draft we had this year, the more I consider it the more I like it.
But good, bad, or indifferent (depending on your perspective), who is JD most like in terms of pass-rushers of the recent past and what kind of career do you guys see for him ? There's a chance he could compare to Demarcus Ware, but that's a big target. A Jevon Kearse career wouldn't be too shabby, but I'm hoping for more than that. Or maybe you think he'll be a total bust, and if so how long before he's out of the league ?
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Kearse , Simeon Rice and Willie McGinest comes to mind . Maybe Tim Harris or Jason Taylor .
 
steelbtexan said:
What makes you believe in Smith, 2-14 and 7 yrs on the job? If you had a job performance like that I would hope that you would be fired. Of course when your sons godfather is the owners son things change.

Could your admiration have to do with the fact that Kubiak failed and you cant let go of the past. We all want the same thing, (The Texans to be SB champs) but you are tending to hold onto the past and don't seem to have the abilty to consider that you may have been wrong when judging the past regime. Of course those pom poms tend to blur ones vision at times.

The Texans are a billion $$$$ corporation and they will do what they think is best for business, not necessarily winning football games. I've come to accept this as a Texans fan and hope you can too. If they happen to win along the way that's a great bonus.
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From my perspective, a lack of talent was not the cause of last year's disaster. I believe Rick Smith has been quite successful bringing in talent with the resources he was given. Also, I think he has good instincts determining when veterans should be cut loose. Of course, it is difficult to draw definitive conclusions since there is so much ambiguity regarding the decision-making process between he and Kubiak.

To be clear, though: I rooted for Kubiak because I liked him. I have confidence in Smith because I think he is good at what he does. I never thought Kubiak was a great coach, nor have I had a rooting interest in Rick Smith beyond the fact that he is the Texans' GM.
 
Texian said:
The guy who actually made the quote was Tony Pauline, who has more credibility than anyone on this board. He did know the name on the second card. He just doesn't rise to level of silly or is as full of the many excuses that can be found here.

http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=9760
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When he starts talking about the Texans' motivation he's pretty much at that level of silly. Most likely this is a piece that justifies his opinion of who the Texans should have picked. He appears to be butthurt that the Texans did not do what he wanted them to do.

Again, looking at the BIG picture, we're not questioning his credibility, only the motivation to describe the Texans' pick in a negative context & you repeating it as if it were gospel.

Mr teX said:
Lol at you guys still paying attention to Texian...dude will stop at nothing to get his agenda out there about Bortles....


I'm honestly convinced that he's somehow related to this dude.
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In his defense, he was the first to bring up the six degrees of separation point between Bortles & OB, and I think it is safe to say that OB was impressed with Bortles when Bortles beat his Nitany Lions.

However, that in-state rivalry is alive & kicking. He probably heard about Pittsburgh every week, & that QB Tom Savage, the one that turned him down.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
Barked like a true Bortles Collie .
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Not very original HE, I thought you were better than that, no rep for you.

Not much difference between me and all of y'all. When Clowney does do his best Aundray Bruce impression, all of y'all will be barking like crazed dogs and singing like a bunch of Whiffenpoofs, what in the heck were the Texas thinking taking a DE with only 3 sacks, who not only took plays off but entire games as well. You'll quickly will disavow all man love for Clowney and demand a Kirby house cleaning.
 
Texian said:
Not very original HE, I thought you were better than that, no rep for you.

Not much difference between me and all of y'all. When Clowney does do his best Aundray Bruce impression, all of y'all will be barking like crazed dogs and singing like a bunch of Whiffenpoofs, what in the heck were the Texas thinking taking a DE with only 3 sacks, who not only took plays off but entire games as well. You'll quickly will disavow all man love for Clowney and demand a Kirby house cleaning.
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Bortles will set the Jags back another 3 years while JJ , Clowney and the Texans stout running game go 8-8 . :texflag:

The 2015 NFL mock drafts have the Jags picking 2nd . Not much bang for the buck for a 3rd pick .
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
Bortles will set the Jags back another 3 years while JJ , Clowney and the Texans stout running game go 8-8 . :texflag:

The 2015 NFL mock drafts have the Jags picking 2nd . Not much bang for the buck for a 3rd pick .
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Best check what Jags have done in off season, free agency. Be better informed.

thetexanator said:
im thinking demarcus ware
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Not even close to Ware's initial first step quickness. In fact compared to Ware's 1.49 10 yd split, Clowney ran a paltry 1.56.
 
Texian said:
Not very original HE, I thought you were better than that, no rep for you.

Not much difference between me and all of y'all. When Clowney does do his best Aundray Bruce impression, all of y'all will be barking like crazed dogs and singing like a bunch of Whiffenpoofs, what in the heck were the Texas thinking taking a DE with only 3 sacks, who not only took plays off but entire games as well. You'll quickly will disavow all man love for Clowney and demand a Kirby house cleaning.
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The back-and-forth means nothing to me anymore, the Draft is over, and JD is now a Texan so it would seem we should all get on board with that fact and hope he has a successful, hopefully even an outstanding career in Houston/NFL. If you honestly think he's gonna be a bust, so be it but no point in going on about it and gloating.
Now as far as Bortles goes, I think it was a very gutsy call by the Jags and their HC/GM, I commend them for it and would say the same about OB/Smith had they drafted Bortles, but apparently they just didn't see what the Jags saw.
 
IDEXAN said:
The back-and-forth means nothing to me anymore, the Draft is over, and JD is now a Texan so it would seem we should all get on board with that fact and hope he has a successful, hopefully even an outstanding career in Houston/NFL. If you honestly think he's gonna be a bust, so be it but no point in going on about it and gloating.
Now as far as Bortles goes, I think it was a very gutsy call by the Jags and their HC/GM, I commend them for it and would say the same about OB/Smith had they drafted Bortles, but apparently they just didn't see what the Jags saw.
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Exactly.

He's a Texan now.

Rooting for someone on your own team to fail is asinine.
 
Texian said:
...."In the end Clowney was the smart pick and was made in large part based on fear; the team was afraid of passing up such a potentially dominant defender."

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2014/5/21/5737952/blake-bortles-houston-texans-nfl-draft-2014

The Texans like so many here are guilty of thinking inside the box.
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Oh the guys who run a Jaguars blog don't think Clowney was a smart pick? Word.

I don't think the Texans can go back and redo the draft to please you so I'm not sure why you're trying so hard to rage against the machine here. Everytime somebody brings up the 3 sack season for Clowney I just quietly assume that they didn't watch any Gamecocks games from '13. If you want to bring it up to bash the player without breaking down any of the game film from that season then go right ahead, but most people here won't pay attention to you or only give you the negative attention you seem to crave.

I haven't watched every snap of every Gamecocks game but I have watched the game vs Ark and FLA and while he didn't rack up sacks he did have plenty of impact on both of those games.
 
Texian said:
Best check what Jags have done in off season, free agency. Be better informed.



Not even close to Ware's initial first step quickness. In fact compared to Ware's 1.49 10 yd split, Clowney ran a paltry 1.56.
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Really ... I don't see it but I'm not a chicken little . :firehair:

http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/JAX

Ware hit a 1.62 while Clay Matthews hit a 1.49 .

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=55196&draftyear=2005&genpos=OLB

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=57020&draftyear=2009&genpos=OLB
 
AngryNateFTW said:
It's Texian ' s job to argue the pick unless it was the guy he wanted. Just like when we drafted Watt he said "Get ready for multiple 4 sack years. "
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The pick is in, the Texans have made their selection, now it seems we should wait and see what the actual production will be on the field this fall for JD in a Houston Texans uniform. In other words the mans college career is now over, and it's time for him to write a new record in the NFL. That we can and will discuss, until then what's the point in continuing to rehash over and over again his college career ?
 
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