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Ryan Mallett traded to Texans

kiwitexansfan said:
Adams, Wright, Williams all got drafted.

Swanson got drafted (although was a freshman starter)

There were drops yes and pressure, Ohio State did have a great defense.
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JaMarcus Russell, Ryan Lief, Tony Mandarich, Akili Smith, etc... ad nauseam. All drafted. All busts. I could throw in Travis Johnson, David Carr, Amobe Akoye, Jason Babin )admittedly not as a of a bust as the others).

Those are just 1st round draft busts, i.e. "best of the best". Being drafted doesn't mean a player will be successful, fruity Texan fan... :clown: :kitten:
It doesn't even mean they'll be decent at the NFL level.
 
kiwitexansfan said:
Wonder if Mallett or Savage has a stronger arm?

Both those guys are supposed to have Cannons.

Perhaps a glimpse into the way OB sees QBs.
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I wonder who is more accurate and intelligent. There hasn't been a QB born with a stronger arm than JaMarcus Russell, but the dude just couldn't read a defense. That strong arm and a National Championship got him drafted so high. That must really put blinders on a GM/HC. I could see halfway through his last year at LSU that he couldn't see a WR/TE/RB coming open at the NFL level.
 
OzzO said:
Yeah, I liked that video as it wasn't all highlights.



Was gonna say the same thing, so as long as we have a decent Oline to handle the rush....

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Even with the rush, he moved well in what pocket there was and kept his eyes downfield.

Another trait he seems to share with Savage.
 
kiwitexansfan said:
Wonder if Mallett or Savage has a stronger arm?

Both those guys are supposed to have Cannons.

Perhaps a glimpse into the way OB sees QBs.
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can't find it now, but I remember seeing an interview with mallett and he was asked how many yards he can throw it and he replied "over 80".
 
Uncle Rico said:
Even harder to watch than that QB performance was his QB Camp w/ Gruden from the same year just peep the sidebar. O>M>G! I hope he grew out of that whole 'wanksta' phase and no longer talks like that.
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Wow we're criticizing how he talks and ignoring that he had a very cogent explanation at the blackboard.
 
infantrycak said:
Wow we're criticizing how he talks and ignoring that he had a very cogent explanation at the blackboard.
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Not speaking to you personally, but if you listen to what his answers are and not his dialect then fans may be able to learn something.

Nah!!! fans minds are already made up. UR you just cant stand the fact that BOB likes a Mallett style QB over a TB style QB.
 
infantrycak said:
Wow we're criticizing how he talks and ignoring that he had a very cogent explanation at the blackboard.
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Yeah, I was really impressed by him.

The fact that he remembered exact plays from games and referenced them was very cool.

We've heard that he's dedicated and spends a lot of time in the film room and I think that shows.
 
infantrycak said:
Wow we're criticizing how he talks and ignoring that he had a very cogent explanation at the blackboard.
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I've got family members in their early 20's and I recognize that 'accent' ... take that how you will. I was not impressed by his explanation of reading a defense either by the way.
 
Uncle Rico said:
I've got family members in their early 20's and I recognize that 'accent' ... take that how you will. I was not impressed by his explanation of reading a defense either by the way.
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Well Gruden and Belichick were and I kind of value their opinions more as tie breakers between your opinion and mine.
 
http://www.ozarkecho.com/?p=599

On Monday’s broadcast of the Doug Gotleib Show on ESPN Radio, John Clayton, one of ESPN’s many NFL analysts, discussed the impression that former Razorback quarterback Ryan Mallett made at the NFL Combine. After mentioning that a lot of criticism against Mallett might be unfair, Clayton told Gotleib that “what you get with (Mallet) is almost like a white rapper type of mentality…It doesn’t come across as well with teams.” Mallett has an “immaturity that comes across that he can’t hide,” Clayton argued
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I'm not accusing him of anything, only that I recognize the drawl and I can put that 'dialect' to certain associations that's all. He's a college educated guy, is it that hard to pretend to sound professional?

Look up some of his interviews. Yikes.

Whatever, throw 50 TD's and win a ring or two and I can forgive some inadequacies.
 
infantrycak said:
Well Gruden and Belichick were and I kind of value their opinions more as tie breakers between your opinion and mine.
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What exactly is he diagnosing? That if all his receivers are covered he's throwing to a designated "hot spot" ... ok.

Sure they took a flyer on him in the 3rd. Turned out well.

I wish the kid luck and no ill will, but im not gonna sugarcoat anthing, and he most certainly will be under the microscope.
 
If Mallett was a satisfactory backup who could be a viable starter in the NFL Belicick wouldn't have drafted Garapolo or traded Mallett. That doesn't mean however that Mallett isn't the best QB on the Texans roster.
 
Uncle Rico said:
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I'm not accusing him of anything, only that I recognize the drawl and I can put that 'dialect' to certain associations that's all. He's a college educated guy, is it that hard to pretend to sound professional?



Look up some of his interviews. Yikes.



Whatever, throw 50 TD's and win a ring or two and I can forgive some inadequacies.
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Ok he has a drawl. So? Not everyone comes from a solid, Midwestern family like JJ.

You're basically saying he's a trailer trash thug who isn't smart. You didn't say that directly, but that's what you're implying.

Good grief, last week I dealt with a guy on here saying that all black athletes are dumb and inarticulate. Now I'm defending WHITE athletes from the sticks for the same thing. Lmao!!
 
Texian said:
If Mallett was a satisfactory backup who could be a viable starter in the NFL Belicick wouldn't have drafted Garapolo or traded Mallett. That doesn't mean however that Mallett isn't the best QB on the Texans roster.
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That actually makes no sense. Ryan was gone after this season so BB hedged his bets and drafted Jimmy. They wanted to trade Ryan for a higher pick, but this pre-season he looked average and no one would give anything for him knowing they would cut him anyway (BB likes 2 qbs only on his roster). So BoB and co were waiting for him to be cut until they heard other teams sniffing around, Rick pulled the trigger on a late pick and BB had no choice but to accept because he would have got nothing otherwise. Ryan was never their future unless Brady got hurt like Manning did. They drafted him (and probably Jimmy) to try and get a return on him, but in this case they waited too long and lost the chance to cash in.
 
Uncle Rico said:
Even harder to watch than that QB performance was his QB Camp w/ Gruden from the same year just peep the sidebar. O>M>G! I hope he grew out of that whole 'wanksta' phase and no longer talks like that.
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Just watched it and I agree. That does not inspire confidence. The guy might sound competent to ICAK, but his clients usually rise when someone says defendant. If you want to be an NFL QB, at least sound intelligent.
I heard "Duelling Banjos" every time Mallett opened his mouth. The Texans offense might have a harder part than Ned Beatty. SMFH.
 
kiwitexansfan said:
Adams, Wright, Williams all got drafted.

Swanson got drafted (although was a freshman starter)

There were drops yes and pressure, Ohio State did have a great defense.
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Yeah his WR corp that year was probably the best in college football. His top 4 WRs would all go on to get drafted, as would his top 2 TEs.

He should have had about 5 TDs in that game though...it was easily the worst game of Joe Adams' career with all the drops
 
paycheck71 said:
And why would Mallett have resigned for peanuts if he knew "BB thought Mallett was worth re-signing"?
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That whole leverage thing rears its head...good point...of course, money will trump talent in a lot of these arguments. Ego could hold serve, though...
 
Texian said:
If Mallett was a satisfactory backup who could be a viable starter in the NFL Belicick wouldn't have drafted Garapolo or traded Mallett. That doesn't mean however that Mallett isn't the best QB on the Texans roster.
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I take it more as a vote of confidence that Brady is going to be around for a few more years.

Keep a backup on a rookie contract rather than having to pay Mallett a second contract paycheck.

Someone out there is going to offer Mallett a contract at the end of this year.
 
Texian said:
If Mallett was a satisfactory backup who could be a viable starter in the NFL Belicick wouldn't have drafted Garapolo or traded Mallett. That doesn't mean however that Mallett isn't the best QB on the Texans roster.
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This has been covered but BS. Any QB who thought they could be a starter wouldn't sign to end up 8 years in the league as Brady's backup.

DocBar said:
Just watched it and I agree. That does not inspire confidence. The guy might sound competent to ICAK, but his clients usually rise when someone says defendant. If you want to be an NFL QB, at least sound intelligent.
I heard "Duelling Banjos" every time Mallett opened his mouth. The Texans offense might have a harder part than Ned Beatty. SMFH.
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When my defendant clients rise they are CEOs, Presidents or VPs.
 
infantrycak said:
This has been covered but BS. Any QB who thought they could be a starter wouldn't sign to end up 8 years in the league as Brady's backup.



When my defendant clients rise they are CEOs, Presidents or VPs.
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And your point? Doesn't make them more innocent or more guilty. Just makes you better compensated.

EDIT: Also doesn't make you more or less concerned with justice. It makes you concerned with winning at any cost. Protest all you wish.
 
DocBar said:
And your point? Doesn't make them more innocent or more guilty. Just makes you better compensated.

EDIT: Also doesn't make you more or less concerned with justice. It makes you concerned with winning at any cost. Protest all you wish.
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Not going to further derail this. I do civil not criminal. Not going to try to disabuse your notions of lawyers.
 
Texian said:
OR....BB could've re-signed Mallett if BB thought Mallett was worth re-signing.
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BB and the Pats always go on the cheap. (See Mankins/Seymour etc...) BB and Brady find a way to make it work. Garappolo was the cheaper option so he stays and Mallett goes. Man, Kraft is making out like a bandit.

One thing we can agree on is Mallett is the best QB on the roster. (Sad) How good is he only time will tell. What I want to know is how well he practices this week and when do YOU think he will be starting?
 
infantrycak said:
This has been covered but BS. Any QB who thought they could be a starter wouldn't sign to end up 8 years in the league as Brady's backup.



When my defendant clients rise they are CEOs, Presidents or VPs.
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If Mallett is as good as you imagine he is Belichick wouldn't let him go for a 7th rd draft pick.

steelbtexan said:
BB and the Pats always go on the cheap. (See Mankins/Seymour etc...) BB and Brady find a way to make it work. Garappolo was the cheaper option so he stays and Mallett goes. Man, Kraft is making out like a bandit.

One thing we can agree on is Mallett is the best QB on the roster. (Sad) How good is he only time will tell. What I want to know is how well he practices this week and when do YOU think he will be starting?
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Mankins and Seymour were making premium $ at their respective positions and had already seen their best days. Not only were they traded for premium return but just important their departures offered important salary cap relief that allowed the Pats $$$ to reload. A key to the Pats continued long term success. In Seymour's case, not only did Belichick get a 1st RD pick to replace Seymour he got some BIG $$$ in relief of the cap.
 
DocBar said:
Just watched it and I agree. That does not inspire confidence. The guy might sound competent to ICAK, but his clients usually rise when someone says defendant. If you want to be an NFL QB, at least sound intelligent.
I heard "Duelling Banjos" every time Mallett opened his mouth. The Texans offense might have a harder part than Ned Beatty. SMFH.
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I'm not sure that Mallett plays the part of Dumb or Dumber, he did score a 26 on his Wonderlic test.
 
Mallet looks like hot garbage, but I'm not going to judge any QB personnel moves until next season. It's obvious the Texans are holding off until next year to fully address the position.
 
Mallett throws a really good deep ball. No more secondaries crowding the line of scrimmage knowing we aren't going to throw it more than 15 yards downfield.
 
ljhog said:
Mallett throws a really good deep ball. No more secondaries crowding the line of scrimmage knowing we aren't going to throw it more than 15 yards downfield.
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Hopefully that is the case, didn't see much downfield in preseason but hopefully that was just keeping the powder dry.
 
Uncle Rico said:
http://www.ozarkecho.com/?p=599

After mentioning that a lot of criticism against Mallett might be unfair, Clayton told Gotleib that “what you get with (Mallet) is almost like a white rapper type of mentality…It doesn’t come across as well with teams.” Mallett has an “immaturity that comes across that he can’t hide,” Clayton argued
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Very interesting... I had no idea. If that's the reason why he wasn't drafted in the first round & maybe even why no one was interested in him this offseason except us, then I'm feeling a lot better about the deal.

I don't particularly care for it, but... if he can play, he can play.
 
thunderkyss said:
Very interesting... I had no idea. If that's the reason why he wasn't drafted in the first round & maybe even why no one was interested in him this offseason except us, then I'm feeling a lot better about the deal.

I don't particularly care for it, but... if he can play, he can play.
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He wasn't drafted in the first round because cocain is a helleva drug...

Or so the rumor goes...
 
BullNation4Life said:
He wasn't drafted in the first round because cocain is a helleva drug...

Or so the rumor goes...
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http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...-reportedly-admits-past-drug-use-to-nfl-teams

Although Arkansas quarterback Ryan Mallett refused to address questions from the media about alleged drug use at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis -- after dodging several queries, Mallett abruptly ended his press conference -- he apparently came clean in interviews with NFL teams.

"One G.M. said Mallett was the first quarterback ever to admit his drug usage to him in interviews, and his willingness to be honest about his past and acknowledge issues is viewed as a positive," according to Pro Football Weekly. "Concerns about his history of use could impact his draft position, though."


Ryan Mallett reportedly has discussed past drug usage with NFL teams. Some teams view this as a positive.

Auburn's Cam Newton and Missouri's Blaine Gabbert are the only two quarterbacks considered top 10 picks in this year's draft. Mallett is generally considered to be in the next tier, along with Washington's Jake Locker, Florida State's Christian Ponder, TCU's Andy Dalton and Nevada's Colin Kaepernick.

In addition to the drug rumors -- Mallett reportedly never tested positive at Arkansas -- his character was sullied by an arrest for public intoxication. Some NFL teams are concerned about Mallett's reputation as a "big party guy," according to PFW.

On the field, NFL talent evaluators have questioned Mallett's decision-making.
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Texian said:
I'm not sure that Mallett plays the part of Dumb or Dumber, he did score a 26 on his Wonderlic test.
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Have you ever taken a Wonderlic test? There's a reason they give them to athletes. It doesn't take much to do well on one.
 
Texian said:
I'm not sure that Mallett plays the part of Dumb or Dumber, he did score a 26 on his Wonderlic test.
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An airplaine crahes on the US/ Canadian border. Where do you bury the survivors?

Half of two plus two equals?
 
Texian said:
If Mallett is as good as you imagine he is Belichick wouldn't let him go for a 7th rd draft pick.
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Sure he would. BB is all about building up draft choices from any round. He also has a another backup QB named Garropollo.

BOB has a brief history with Mallett at New England......... Maybe there was a reason the Texans extended an olive branch for Mallett back in the spring.

Do I think he or Savage is the "future" of the Texans..... Not so much. That said, a mix of *ahem* Harvard boy, Mallett or Savage is NOT where this team needs to go.

It's unfortunate though. The offense actually has a couple of weapons. Arian (healthy), but more notably AJ (hungry) and I think DEA (aka NUK) Hopkins could have a big year.



With the defense....... It may or may not be an interesting year.
 
infantrycak said:
Wow we're criticizing how he talks and ignoring that he had a very cogent explanation at the blackboard.
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Agreed. He certainly understood what it meant to identify his hot route. Something Keenum either did not get, or could not complete because of his height.

Texian said:
If Mallett was a satisfactory backup who could be a viable starter in the NFL Belicick wouldn't have drafted Garapolo or traded Mallett. That doesn't mean however that Mallett isn't the best QB on the Texans roster.
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That's nonsense. It's all about the money, and BB is not going to pay him big bucks to backup Brady when he can get a rookie to do it for next to nothing. On top of that Mallett probably figures he has paid his dues and wants a chance to start somewhere else, and I can't blame him for that. This gig with the Texans is the PERFECT opportunity for him. If he plays well, he lands a huge contract and a starting job for years to come.

kiwitexansfan said:
I take it more as a vote of confidence that Brady is going to be around for a few more years.

Keep a backup on a rookie contract rather than having to pay Mallett a second contract paycheck.

Someone out there is going to offer Mallett a contract at the end of this year.
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msr

infantrycak said:
This has been covered but BS. Any QB who thought they could be a starter wouldn't sign to end up 8 years in the league as Brady's backup.
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msr

steelbtexan said:
BB and the Pats always go on the cheap. (See Mankins/Seymour etc...) BB and Brady find a way to make it work. Garappolo was the cheaper option so he stays and Mallett goes. Man, Kraft is making out like a bandit.

One thing we can agree on is Mallett is the best QB on the roster. (Sad) How good is he only time will tell. What I want to know is how well he practices this week and when do YOU think he will be starting?
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I would be surprised if he starts weeks 1, but I could see him getting the nod for week 2 depending on how Fitzpatrick plays.

ljhog said:
Mallett throws a really good deep ball. No more secondaries crowding the line of scrimmage knowing we aren't going to throw it more than 15 yards downfield.
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Agreed... plus with the way the rules are now, he does not even need to be that accurate. Just get it up there and will probably draw a PI, illegal contact, or holding call.
 
Originally Posted by Texian View Post
If Mallett is as good as you imagine he is Belichick wouldn't let him go for a 7th rd draft pick.
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Texan_Bill said:
Sure he would. BB is all about building up draft choices from any round. He also has a another backup QB named Garropollo.
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If Mallett is good as Y'ALL imagine he is Belichick wouldn't have drafted Garapolo.
 
Texian said:
If Mallett is good as Y'ALL imagine he is Belichick wouldn't have drafted Garapolo.
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or perhaps it was the patriots unwillingness to pay a backup qb. tom brady is their qb for the next 2-4 years. garoppolo can fill that back up role on a rookie salary.. or have you already crowned jimmy g because the hoodie drafted him so high??
 
DocBar said:
Just watched it and I agree. That does not inspire confidence. The guy might sound competent to ICAK, but his clients usually rise when someone says defendant. If you want to be an NFL QB, at least sound intelligent.
I heard "Duelling Banjos" every time Mallett opened his mouth. The Texans offense might have a harder part than Ned Beatty. SMFH.
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Texian said:
If Mallett is good as Y'ALL imagine he is Belichick wouldn't have drafted Garapolo.
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Not sure why you don't get that most are not saying Mallett is very good just better than what we have now and I think many would take Garropolo over all three we have so Beli just kept the ones we would have if they were ours. He did not need three and allowed the lesser of the three to go which could be good for Texans and if not, we lose a 6 at most.
 
The Pats drafted Brady's predecessor just a little bit too early. They might have done it again with Garoppolo.
 
Premier said:
or perhaps it was the patriots unwillingness to pay a backup qb. tom brady is their qb for the next 2-4 years. garoppolo can fill that back up role on a rookie salary.. or have you already crowned jimmy g because the hoodie drafted him so high??
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This has been my thought on it exactly. This could be a steal for the Texans due merely for cap reasons. Then again, maybe he really does suck, we just don't know. I guess we might be finding out this season, Fitzmagic won't make it past game five if the Texans aren't winning.
 
Texan_Bill said:
Sure he would. BB is all about building up draft choices from any round. He also has a another backup QB named Garropollo.

BOB has a brief history with Mallett at New England......... Maybe there was a reason the Texans extended an olive branch for Mallett back in the spring.

Do I think he or Savage is the "future" of the Texans..... Not so much. That said, a mix of *ahem* Harvard boy, Mallett or Savage is NOT where this team needs to go.

It's unfortunate though. The offense actually has a couple of weapons. Arian (healthy), but more notably AJ (hungry) and I think DEA (aka NUK) Hopkins could have a big year.



With the defense....... It may or may not be an interesting year.
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Agreed

But I think Godsey spent the last 3 yrs with Mallett.

That makes me feel much more comfortable with Mallett.
 
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