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Deuce isn't with the team anymore, Thomas seems to have injury problems, and exactly what billing are you referring to? I understand defending ones favorite teams picks, but that's just an outright falshood that Bush has lived up to anything remotely resembling his billing. You didn't drink the koolade, you made it.

Thomas has injury problems? When and where? Guy averaged 5 yards a pop last season so don't be surprised if he has a good game tomorrow. This will be his first chance at a 16 game season since Deuce left. He was hardly ever used and buried on the depth chart before last season for injury to hamper him. Can't get injured on the sidelines. Where do you get this stuff?

Also, I'm speaking for Saints fans since we are the ones who have seen Bush perform in EVERY game. Not ESPN snippets. We know his value both with AND without the ball, so no, I'd say the vast majority would NOT trade him for Mario. Especially since I already mentioned that the Saints are very deep at DE.

How you can speak for other NFL fans of other cities, I do not know.
 
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I think I saw Tracy Porter's pick. I'm fairly sure that was off of Alex Brink - the 3rd string QB who just got off the sofa and into camp on Monday. You want props?
Okay.
Yaay for T.P. :D

Seriously, I was talking to the Saints fans that were where I was sitting and we agreed both teams just need their respective defenses to step it up and we'd both be bound for the playoffs. Both offenses are ready - assuming the starting QBs stay healthy.

And the guys from the local rag are supposed to talk up the local team. You had reps from your local news. I would hope they talked up the Saints. That's just how it works.

Jenkins got your starting QB yesterday, and I would check and make sure Porter's pick was on a 3rd string QB, because he is one of our starting corners. Why would our 1st string unit be going against your 3rd?

Also, you can be objective. Our media, which isnt great by any stretch, reported when Brown got tossed by Williams, but then they ALSO reported he stoned Williams on the next rep. BALANCE in reporting ain't bad.
 
Huh! I guess all teams drink their own kool-aid, because 90 to 95% of Saints fans would NOT trade Bush for Williams. Especially when the Saints are pretty deep at DE anyway. Kinda like how the Houston Chronicle seems to have a staff of homers and report NONE of the dominating things the Saints have done in the practices, like Michael Jenkins 70 yard INT yesterday and Tracy Porter's 90 yard one today.

When healthy, Bush has lived up to his billing mostly. Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

As for a game he "dominated"? Couple of candidates could be the 49er game of '06, or the Vikings game of '08.

Why can't Texans fans just be happy with their guy instead of the constant need to bring up Reggie Bush?

On a side note, why did they get rid of the "Oilers"? That team had history and I LOVED the unis. The new "Texan" stuff is a bit corny.

Cheers!

LOL. You don't even know enough of NFL history (recent history, at that) to know that we didn't just decide to change our team's name and logo.

Bud Adams (he owns the Titans, in case you didn't know) owns the Oilers' likeness rights and all that goes with it. He wanted the city of Houston to set him up in a fantastic new stadium, upon the shoulders of tax payers, and the city told him enough is enough. Bud then threw a fit and took his toys and went to Nashville.

You've been to one too many Mardis Gras events if you think Reggie has lived up to his hype. Oh, you threw out the "mostly" word in order to try and squeeze that outrageous claim by us.

Look at Steve Slaton's rushing yards in ONE season, compared with Reggie's entire three seasons.

Bush has played in 38 games and has 1,550 yds. of rushing. That's an average of under 41 yards per game.

Slaton has played in 16 games and has 1,282 yds. of rushing. That's an average of 80 yards per game.

Twice as much rushing production, packaged in a 3rd rounder named Slaton.

But Reggie has an edge in the "decoy" category. LOL.
 
Jenkins got your starting QB yesterday, and I would check and make sure Porter's pick was on a 3rd string QB, because he is one of our starting corners. Why would our 1st string unit be going against your 3rd?

Also, you can be objective. Our media, which isnt great by any stretch, reported when Brown got tossed by Williams, but then they ALSO reported he stoned Williams on the next rep. BALANCE in reporting ain't bad.

LOL.

We get it: You love the Saints. :listening

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Thomas has injury problems? When and where? Guy averaged 5 yards a pop last season so don't be surprised if he has a good game tomorrow. This will be his first chance at a 16 game season since Deuce left. He was hardly ever used and buried on the depth chart before last season for injury to hamper him. Can't get injured on the sidelines. Where do you get this stuff?

Also, I'm speaking for Saints fans since we are the ones who have seen Bush perform in EVERY game. Not ESPN snippets. We know his value both with AND without the ball, so no, I'd say the vast majority would NOT trade him for Mario. Especially since I already mentioned that the Saints are very deep at DE.

How you can speak for other NFL fans of other cities, I do not know.

I agree that the Saints are deep at DE, so maybe ya'll wouldn't swap RB for Mario, but I've also heard a lot of Saints fans saying that Reggie has done more as a pro than Mario. Like you said, I'm sure most Saints fans haven't seen Mario perform in more than 3 or 4 games. Plus, I'm sure that ESPN shows more Reggie highlights than Mario highlights. I'm curious how much of Mario you've seen?

Frankly, I'm happy with Slaton. Runs just as well as Reggie (IMO!) for a 3rd rounder. Sure, maybe he's not a "decoy" (I hate that term), and definitely not the receiving threat, but hey, he was a third rounder, not "the best RB prospect in decades" and the "next coming of Barry Sanders!".
 
Jenkins got your starting QB yesterday, and I would check and make sure Porter's pick was on a 3rd string QB, because he is one of our starting corners. Why would our 1st string unit be going against your 3rd?

Also, you can be objective. Our media, which isnt great by any stretch, reported when Brown got tossed by Williams, but then they ALSO reported he stoned Williams on the next rep. BALANCE in reporting ain't bad.

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Practice!??
We talkin' 'bout practice!
Not a game...
...Practice!

LOL

sorry, I just had to get that in.
 
williams "decoy" status would have gone through the roof if Weaver and others would have taken advantage of it ..

2006 had 4 of the teams 28 sacks
2007 had 14 of the teams 31 sacks
2008 had 12 of the teams 25 sacks


totals of 30 of the teams overall 84 sacks (per nfl.com)

nothing to read into just saying

man I hope bush and bill kohler gets this group going and Smith is the real deal
 
I don't think you realize the extent of the constant bashing of the Texans following the 2006 draft.

quoted for truth.

It was over-the-top smack talk by all sports media, and NFL fans everywhere. For a whole year.

And now? It's this-- :cricket:
 
LOL. You don't even know enough of NFL history (recent history, at that) to know that we didn't just decide to change our team's name and logo.

Bud Adams (he owns the Titans, in case you didn't know) owns the Oilers' likeness rights and all that goes with it. He wanted the city of Houston to set him up in a fantastic new stadium, upon the shoulders of tax payers, and the city told him enough is enough. Bud then threw a fit and took his toys and went to Nashville.

You've been to one too many Mardis Gras events if you think Reggie has lived up to his hype. Oh, you threw out the "mostly" word in order to try and squeeze that outrageous claim by us.

Look at Steve Slaton's rushing yards in ONE season, compared with Reggie's entire three seasons.

Bush has played in 38 games and has 1,550 yds. of rushing. That's an average of under 41 yards per game.

Slaton has played in 16 games and has 1,282 yds. of rushing. That's an average of 80 yards per game.

Twice as much rushing production, packaged in a 3rd rounder named Slaton.

But Reggie has an edge in the "decoy" category. LOL.

Ummm no, I'm well aware of how the "name game" goes. You see, we had this team called the New Orleans Jazz, then our ruthless owner took them to Salt Lake City, along with the colors and uni, and now you have the Utah Jazz...:mcnugget:

There was talk that our present NBA team owner could purchase back the old name and colors, but it fell through. Thus the question about the Oilers. You off your high donkey now?

Also, what are Slaton's punt return and receiving numbers? We all knew Bush would not be an every down running back, and has been used in many different ways. Kinda false to only talk about his rushing numbers...don't ya think?
 
Ummm no, I'm well aware of how the "name game" goes. You see, we had this team called the New Orleans Jazz, then our ruthless owner took them to Salt Lake City, along with the colors and uni, and now you have the Utah Jazz...:mcnugget:

There was talk that our present NBA team owner could purchase back the old name and colors, but it fell through. Thus the question about the Oilers. You off your high donkey now?

Also, what are Slaton's punt return and receiving numbers? We all knew Bush would not be an every down running back, and has been used in many different ways. Kinda false to only talk about his rushing numbers...don't ya think?

Ugh. I concede the receiving yards. Reggie is a good pass catching threat and can be used in a myriad of ways, recieving the ball. But punt return numbers? Really? These "all-purpose yards" nonsense needs to end. You can't just add punt and kickoff return yardage to a guy's yardage. ESPN used it nonstop to justify their manlove of Reggie his first couple seasons. Yeah, I'm sure he's a great punt returner. But every team these days have a great punt returner. Jacoby Jones returned 2 last year, Reggie had 3. AMAZING, THEY'RE BOTH ALLSTARS NOW!
 
Thomas has injury problems? When and where? Guy averaged 5 yards a pop last season so don't be surprised if he has a good game tomorrow. This will be his first chance at a 16 game season since Deuce left. He was hardly ever used and buried on the depth chart before last season for injury to hamper him. Can't get injured on the sidelines. Where do you get this stuff?

Also, I'm speaking for Saints fans since we are the ones who have seen Bush perform in EVERY game. Not ESPN snippets. We know his value both with AND without the ball, so no, I'd say the vast majority would NOT trade him for Mario. Especially since I already mentioned that the Saints are very deep at DE.

How you can speak for other NFL fans of other cities, I do not know.

I like Thomas. I think he can be a very good RB in the NFL. Didn't he have some nagging injury problems in '07 and '08 that kept him limited? I might be mistaken on that, but for some reason it rings a bell with me. That will take some of the sting out of losing The Deuce. I travel all over the country and get to enjoy the NFL in other teams hometowns quite regularly. I talk a LOT of football with those fans. My one job in the New Orleans area was right after Katrina, so most sAints fans were elsewhere.
 
Ugh. I concede the receiving yards. Reggie is a good pass catching threat and can be used in a myriad of ways, recieving the ball. But punt return numbers? Really? These "all-purpose yards" nonsense needs to end. You can't just add punt and kickoff return yardage to a guy's yardage. ESPN used it nonstop to justify their manlove of Reggie his first couple seasons. Yeah, I'm sure he's a great punt returner. But every team these days have a great punt returner. Jacoby Jones returned 2 last year, Reggie had 3. AMAZING, THEY'RE BOTH ALLSTARS NOW!

But Reggie had 3 in only 10 games played last year. Two in one game that single handedly kept the Saints in the game against the Vikings on Monday night (wierd game by the way). THAT is why ALL yardage is counted because it all...counts. The key is that he scores doing all those things. A pure threat EVERY time he touches the ball.

When healthy, the guy is a threat in too many different ways and has burned opposing teams doing all three. The key for him is staying healthy. When he's healthy, watch out!
 
Reggie's best season 2006 16 games 565 yards rushing 743 yards receiving for a total of 1308 yards

Slaton rookie season 16 games 1282 rushing and 377 receiving for a total of 1659


for career Bush has 20 tds (3 seasons add 4 more td's when adding PR stats ) to Slatons 10 Tds (1 season)


throw in his CAREER punt return yardage (3 seasons) you get to add 498 yards)(2006 he had 216 yards )


so if you want to compare total yards of best seasons bush has 1524 (total yards of rushing/receiving/pr ) to Slaton's 1659(rushing/receiving)




all stats per NFL.com
 
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Reggie's best season 2006 16 games 565 yards rushing 743 yards receiving for a total of 1308 yards

Slaton rookie season 16 games 1282 rushing and 377 receiving for a total of 1659


for career Bush has 20 tds (3 seasons add 4 more td's when adding PR stats ) to Slatons 10 Tds (1 season)


throw in his CAREER punt return yardage (3 seasons) you get to add 498 yards)(2006 he had 216 yards )


so if you want to compare total yards of best seasons bush has 1524 (total yards of rushing/receiving/pr ) to Slaton's 1659




all stats per NFL.com

This.
 
I like Thomas. I think he can be a very good RB in the NFL. Didn't he have some nagging injury problems in '07 and '08 that kept him limited? I might be mistaken on that, but for some reason it rings a bell with me. That will take some of the sting out of losing The Deuce. I travel all over the country and get to enjoy the NFL in other teams hometowns quite regularly. I talk a LOT of football with those fans. My one job in the New Orleans area was right after Katrina, so most sAints fans were elsewhere.

Maybe you're thinking about Deuce? Thomas only missed one game last year, the season finale.

He's added a few pounds, always moves the pile, is cat quick, and can catch out of the backfield. Looking forward to a full season of #23 and #25 this season. The guy has done nothing but produce when he touches the ball. Now that Deuce is gone, it's his turn to shine.

Oh, and I wouldn't trust the Chronicle of you want objective information on your next opponent. They don't seem to fill you in on very much.

Been fun Texans. I'll be back to congratulate, or talk a lil smack after the game.

Cheers!
 
for the record I am not knocking on reggie.. it isn't his fault that he was hyped so bad by ESPiN ... but it got really ridiculous on the garbage that was was thrown around ... an Eric metcalf type on PR that can run and catch a bit.

I wish Reggie the best and hope he can stay healthy
 
Reggie's best season 2006 16 games 565 yards rushing 743 yards receiving for a total of 1308 yards

Slaton rookie season 16 games 1282 rushing and 377 receiving for a total of 1659


for career Bush has 20 tds (3 seasons add 4 more td's when adding PR stats ) to Slatons 10 Tds (1 season)


throw in his CAREER punt return yardage (3 seasons) you get to add 498 yards)(2006 he had 216 yards )


so if you want to compare total yards of best seasons bush has 1524 (total yards of rushing/receiving/pr ) to Slaton's 1659(rushing/receiving)




all stats per NFL.com

Which translates into 318 touches at 5.2 yards per for Slaton in 2008.

Bush's 271 touches at 5.6 yards per in 2006.

Cheers!
 
Ummm no, I'm well aware of how the "name game" goes. You see, we had this team called the New Orleans Jazz, then our ruthless owner took them to Salt Lake City, along with the colors and uni, and now you have the Utah Jazz...:mcnugget:

There was talk that our present NBA team owner could purchase back the old name and colors, but it fell through. Thus the question about the Oilers. You off your high donkey now?

Also, what are Slaton's punt return and receiving numbers? We all knew Bush would not be an every down running back, and has been used in many different ways. Kinda false to only talk about his rushing numbers...don't ya think?

Okay, receiving....
Bush -- 52 catches for 440 yds and 4 TDs
Slaton - 50 catches for 337 yds and 1 TD
advantage Bush. But not by much.

Add in Slaton's rushing yards (both guys were signed to be RBs after all) and Slaton has the edge. We have other guys who can return punts. For a lot cheaper than the 4-5 mil/yr you're paying Bush.


For the record, I was kind of a fan of the New Orleans Jazz - mainly because of this guy
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I think you got screwed when they moved the Jazz to Utah. Whoever heard of any jazz coming out of Utah. They should have changed the name.

Anyway, enough of this banter. Good luck to you this season - since we don't play you guys - and may we see you in the playoffs; because it means both teams made it to the Super Bowl.
 
Which translates into 318 touches at 5.2 yards per for Slaton in 2008.

Bush's 271 touches at 5.6 yards per in 2006.

Cheers!

wow impressive .. Saints are probably pleased with the production on the 6 year 51 million dollar contract..i wonder how much he gets paid per touch and I wonder if the 26 million in guaranteed money goes toward the decoy fund ...and 25 million goes to the rest. :tease:

compared to Slaton's 4 year 2.37 :hmmm:

I can play the stats game too :joker:

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Which translates into 318 touches at 5.2 yards per for Slaton in 2008.

Bush's 271 touches at 5.6 yards per in 2006.

Cheers!

Bush's #2 overall draft position
Slaton's #89 overall draft position

I'd still say the Texans came out on top on that one
 
We all knew Bush would not be an every down running back, and has been used in many different ways. Kinda false to only talk about his rushing numbers...don't ya think?

ummm...... NO. You didn't find out he wasn't an "every down back" until after his rookie year. That was NOT how he was HYPED, hence the extreme criticism against the Texans for passing on him. I am happy with our pick (Slaton) and wish you guys well in your regular season play. It really doesn't matter what Reggie or VY does at this point - Mario has already proven himself and there are no whispers of "bust" and that is all that matters to our team. The other 2 draft picks can fail or succeed and it won't take away from Mario's contribution to our team.
 
Ummm no, I'm well aware of how the "name game" goes. You see, we had this team called the New Orleans Jazz, then our ruthless owner took them to Salt Lake City, along with the colors and uni, and now you have the Utah Jazz...:mcnugget:

There was talk that our present NBA team owner could purchase back the old name and colors, but it fell through. Thus the question about the Oilers. You off your high donkey now?

Also, what are Slaton's punt return and receiving numbers? We all knew Bush would not be an every down running back, and has been used in many different ways. Kinda false to only talk about his rushing numbers...don't ya think?

1. You made a statement that was ignorant, in regards to why our name is the Texans. No need to try and spin it.

2. "We all knew Bush would not be an every down running back" is a statement that attempts to excuse his lack of production at the position of running back. I don't think your team drafted the guy at No. 2 and paid him all that money to field punts and be a situational player. They had hoped he would be a dazzling running back; I believe the media called him "The next Gale Sayers."

Deep down, under that gold and silver exterior of yours, you know that Reggie Bush has not fulfilled the overwhelming hype and promise that everyone but Texans fans has placed upon him.

And, score one for us (for a change), we finally did something right. But even when we do something right, we still have to be wrong. We still have to come up on the short end of the stick. When David Carr was here, ESPN had a commercial showing him on the field all by himself--A very untrue picture of what the problem REALLY was (David Carr). Then came the draft, and all the Madden video game commercials with Vince Young and Bush slamming the Texans for passing on them. And the dozen commercials featuring Reggie Bush, already a lock for the hall of fame. And the media's relentless kicking of our Texans, for over a whole year. We're damned if we do, and damned if we don't.

Good luck to your team this season.
 
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The three main players involved in all this talk are Mario, Vince and Reggie. At the time of the draft, the Mario pick blew up the fans and the media and then Mario didn't have a good rookie year, where as Vince did and to some degree so did Reggie. As Houston fans, we've never heard the end of it so please excuse us if we are a bit sensitive about it.

As to those three players, their careers are not finished yet, so unless any of us has a working time machine and can go get a future sports report, all of us are blowing smoke up our collective asses.

In the meantime, I wish the Saints no injuries and good luck this season.

Go Texans! :texflag:
 
Later on that same guy complains more about how Reggie has been "under the microscope" and that's why the critics hate him so much. For me, I think that Mario has been under MORE scrutiny than Reggie. He's had to battle through the instantaneous belief that he was going to be the biggest mistake in football history. Critics would have LOVED for Mario to tank and prove them all right, and it took two 10+ sack seasons to change their minds.

He also talks about the impact of Reggie as a decoy being greater than the impact of Mario. No way. I guarantee that offenses account for Mario with either a chip block from a RB, an extra TE blocker, sending the RB to the other side. And even when Mario doesn't register a tackle, sack, or TFL c, he impacts games by causing pressure and drawing blockers.


Hell...the critics crucified the Texans....Mr McNair....Casserly and Kubiak......it was a all out crucifixion on taking Mario Willaims.....

I remember how bad it got. I placed my 2 authentic Mario Williams jerseys order the day we drafted him. I have always loved the pick....

I heard a interview the other day with Chris Collingsworth and he was like "I was wrong about Mario" apology....Its nice to see someone actually admit that they were wrong about the Texans pick.:texflag::texflag::texflag:
 
Hell...the critics crucified the Texans....Mr McNair....Casserly and Kubiak......it was a all out crucifixion on taking Mario Willaims.....

I remember how bad it got. I placed my 2 authentic Mario Williams jerseys order the day we drafted him. I have always loved the pick....

I heard a interview the other day with Chris Collingsworth and he was like "I was wrong about Mario" apology....Its nice to see someone actually admit that they were wrong about the Texans pick.:texflag::texflag::texflag:

You guys in Houston have no idea how bad it can get. Try living in Austin with all these myopic Longhorn fans. Heck, Texan games were pulled in favor of the freakin' Titans for 3 years so these id*ots could watch Vince Young.
 
Sorry, but this one is rather easy.

Reggie Bush in zone blocking system > Steve Slaton

Period. Bush would flourish in our system.
 
Sorry, but this one is rather easy.

Reggie Bush in zone blocking system > Steve Slaton

Period. Bush would flourish in our system.

Interesting "what if" scenario there. I'm not sure I'd disagree with you, but I think Mario is more valuable to us since we already have Slaton. And Slaton has also proven to be an effective slot reciever.
 
Sorry, but this one is rather easy.

Reggie Bush in zone blocking system > Steve Slaton

Period. Bush would flourish in our system.

Mmkay

The dude can't even stay on the field.

Slaton > Bush

Period. Bush can't flourish in diddly from the training room
 
Interesting "what if" scenario there. I'm not sure I'd disagree with you, but I think Mario is more valuable to us since we already have Slaton. And Slaton has also proven to be an effective slot reciever.

Oh, in no way am I saying that I would rather have Reggie than Mario, I'd have to be insane to say that. But Reggie would be the better running back in our system given his and Slaton's running styles.
 
Mmkay

The dude can't even stay on the field.

Slaton > Bush

Period. Bush can't flourish in diddly from the training room

Sorry, I'm just saying if Reggie was put into a system like ours he would have more success than Slaton. And there is no way you can argue that. I love Steve don't get me wrong, and I'm glad we took Mario over Reggie, but if Bush was put into this kind of system he could be an every down back and I think (just my opinion) he would be rather good.
 
I just hope that someone flattens Shockey like that team mate of his did two years ago on the Giants that gave him that concussion. :kingkong:
 
Sorry, I'm just saying if Reggie was put into a system like ours he would have more success than Slaton. And there is no way you can argue that. I love Steve don't get me wrong, and I'm glad we took Mario over Reggie, but if Bush was put into this kind of system he could be an every down back and I think (just my opinion) he would be rather good.

Thats a pretty big assumption when you consider that Pierre Thomas can average a stout 4.8 yards per carry behind the same line that Reggie struggles behind. From what I have seen from Reggie he dances too much behind the los making him pretty much the anti zbs runner. He has all the tools but his running style wouldn't mesh as well in our system as Slaton's does.
 
Sorry, but this one is rather easy.

Reggie Bush in zone blocking system > Steve Slaton

Period. Bush would flourish in our system.

Yes that can be argued rather easily. Bush is a dancer which is not the best thing for ZBS.

Which is obviously something that can easily be fixed...

Bush is afraid of contact, therefore he dances around. It is very hard to fix nerves or balls when he has neither of them. Oh and if it was so easily fixable why has not yet been fixed?

Bush's best moment ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdQUiZ6ioKw
 
I've got a bad feeling that in this game our secondary concerns are going to be exposed badly. I really don't care who wins because it's only preseason but I think our secondary is going to get tore up by Drew Brees.
 
Sorry, I'm just saying if Reggie was put into a system like ours he would have more success than Slaton. And there is no way you can argue that. I love Steve don't get me wrong, and I'm glad we took Mario over Reggie, but if Bush was put into this kind of system he could be an every down back and I think (just my opinion) he would be rather good.

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Ever since Bush took that incredible hit, he hasn't been the same. After that, I saw him heading for the sidelines a lot instead of turning it uphill and hesitating in the backfield.
 
You cant win a hypothetical arguement with the blind.

However if Kubes thought Reggie was all that he would be a Texan.

Reggies two greatest hits
1. Kim Kardashian
2. Sheldon Brown knocking him on his a**
 
Interesting "what if" scenario there. I'm not sure I'd disagree with you, but I think Mario is more valuable to us since we already have Slaton. And Slaton has also proven to be an effective slot reciever.
I would disagree with that. Bush can be amazing in the open field but, IMHO, he lacks the heart to be a productive NFL RB. You have to be WILLING to take the hits. He wasn't at USC and he isn't in New Orleans.
 
Which is obviously something that can't easily be fixed or NFL coaches and GM's wouldn't concentrate so much on finding players that one cut and go and discount those who don't.

Exactly. You don't have to look too far.............How many RB's have the Texans given up on because they wouldn't give up their Fred Astaire School of Dance technique??
 
Bush can suddenly run between the tackles?

BTW I hear he might not play due to calf injury tomorrow tonight(was a statement running along the bottom of the TV screen earlier today while I was watching LLWS
 
Which is obviously something that can't easily be fixed or NFL coaches and GM's wouldn't concentrate so much on finding players that one cut and go and discount those who don't.

I would disagree with that. Bush can be amazing in the open field but, IMHO, he lacks the heart to be a productive NFL RB. You have to be WILLING to take the hits. He wasn't at USC and he isn't in New Orleans.

That, for sure, is pretty obvious.............unless this discussion has turned to weed?
 
Sorry, I'm just saying if Reggie was put into a system like ours he would have more success than Slaton. And there is no way you can argue that. I love Steve don't get me wrong, and I'm glad we took Mario over Reggie, but if Bush was put into this kind of system he could be an every down back and I think (just my opinion) he would be rather good.

Bolded the parts that are not very smart. I can easily argue that 10-12 games of Reggie Bush wouldn't be as dominant as 16 games of Slaton.

Where do you get the idea that Bush would flourish in the ZBS without seeing him play in it?

That, for sure, is pretty obvious.............unless this discussion has turned to weed?

You rang?
 
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