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Post Draft 53 Man Roster Prediction

TheRealJoker

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Here is my first crack at it. Are the Covid practice squad rules still in effect this season where you can have practice squad players be elevated to the active roster on game day a certain number of games? If so, that would change the number I carry at TE/WR. I remember last season Auclair and Chris Moore were getting practice squad elevated early in the year before being signed to active roster.

(24) Offense:

(2) QB: Mills, Allen

(5) RB: Pierce, Mack, Burkhead, Ogunbowale Janovich

(5) WR: Cooks, Collins, Conley, Metchie, Moore

(4) TE: Jordan, Brown, Auclair, Quitoriano

(3) OT: Tunsil, Howard, Heck

(3) OG: Green, Cann, Mccray

(2) OC: Britt, Morrisey

(26) Defense:

(4) DE: Greenard, Green, Addison, Okoronkwo

(5) DT: Collins, Lopez, Blacklock, Booker, Daniels

(3) OLB: Grugier-Hill, Reeves-Maybin, Wallow

(3) MLB: Kirksey, Harris, Cashman

(6) CB: Stingley, Nelson, Thomas, King, Smith, Yiadom

(3) FS: Pitre, Owens, Brooks

(2) SS: Murray, Stewart

(3) Specialists:

(1) K: Fairbairn

(1) P: Johnston

(1) LS: Weeks
 
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TheRealJoker

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My biggest “surprise cuts”:

Offense: Rookie OL Deculus: Currently carrying 8 OL. Would be number 9 and a practice squad priority. Subject to change once he gets reps at a position other than RT in camp but currently behind Heck as swing tackle.

WR Dorsett: Numbers game. More of a smash mouth mindset so lighter numbers at WR and going with Conley due to superior size to back up Nico Collins and be a big body blocking in the run game.

WR Hamilton: Numbers game. Carrying more TEs/RBs so will not be carrying 6 WRs.

RB Freeman: I suspect I can get him to practice squad and elevate him if Mack or Pierce go down.

OL Scharping: Is it really a surprise though?

QB Driskel: 3rd QB on practice squad. Carrying only 2 on active roster.

Defense:

DE Jordan Jenkins: Mario Addison fulfills his role as veteran leader that can provide quality reps better.

OLB Kevin Pierre-Louis: Only room for two LBs with a hyphenated last name. Going with Wallow as the reserve due to younger player with more room to grow on rookie contract.

MLB Neville Hewitt: Going with the superior athlete in Cashman. Though with Cashman’s injury history, Hewitt may still make team.
 
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TheRealJoker

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Biggest surprise player to make the roster:

UDFA NT out of Nebraska Damion Daniels. Not necessarily because I think he’ll be a great player but he fills a role that nobody else on the roster can play. Backup NT to Roy Lopez. He showed promise at Nebraska dropping anchor and occupying blockers at Nebraska defending the run.

UDFA I am most rooting for:

Jake Hansen. Lovie’s captain at Illinois is a playmaking machine when not injured. Maybe he’ll stay healthy throughout camp and win a spot to become a core ST performer.
 
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Toro Bravo

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So, what position does Jeff Driskel play - QB or TE? He doesn't do either well but I could see keeping him as a back up TE and emergency QB.
Do we really need a full back? Almost seems like an extinct position that can be fillled with a TE (Jordan). I would rather see Freeman make the roster at RB than Janovich at FB.
 

steelbtexan

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Here is my first crack at it. Are the Covid practice squad rules still in effect this season where you can have practice squad players be elevated to the active roster on game day a certain number of games? If so, that would change the number I carry at TE/WR. I remember last season Auclair and Chris Moore were getting practice squad elevated early in the year before being signed to active roster.

(24) Offense:

(2) QB: Mills, Allen

(5) RB: Pierce, Mack, Burkhead, Ogunbowale Janovich

(5) WR: Cooks, Collins, Conley, Metchie, Moore

(4) TE: Jordan, Brown, Auclair, Quitoriano

(3) OT: Tunsil, Howard, Heck

(3) OG: Green, Cann, Mccray

(2) OC: Britt, Morrisey

(26) Defense:

(4) DE: Greenard, Green, Addison, Okoronkwo

(5) DT: Collins, Lopez, Blacklock, Booker, Daniels

(3) OLB: Grugier-Hill, Reeves-Maybin, Wallow

(3) MLB: Kirksey, Harris, Cashman

(6) CB: Stingley, Nelson, Thomas, King, Smith, Yiadom

(3) FS: Pitre, Owens, Brooks

(2) SS: Murray, Stewart

(3) Specialists:

(1) K: Fairbairn

(1) P: Johnston

(1) LS: Weeks
Looks about right to me.

I'm sure there will be a surprise or 2.
 

TheRealJoker

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So, what position does Jeff Driskel play - QB or TE? He doesn't do either well but I could see keeping him as a back up TE and emergency QB.
Do we really need a full back? Almost seems like an extinct position that can be fillled with a TE (Jordan). I would rather see Freeman make the roster at RB than Janovich at FB.

Choose your own adventure! I’d rather have Janovich as a blocker short yardage and goal line situations as well as ST units than a RB who isn’t getting carries ahead of Pierce and Mack that doesn’t bring much on ST.

Dare Ogunbowale is like our old Buddy Howell. ST ace but with receiving ability. Former ST captain with Bucs. Frank Ross has a say in who sticks on final roster.
 

TheRealJoker

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I have deculus making the team. I think with our current coaching staff he could become the Right Guard of the future. I think one of the Vets will be injured.
I hope you’re right. And we should get a clearer picture of his role come training camp. There’s a chance Texans could carry 9 OL as well. 8 is admittedly light but each backup has experience playing multiple positions.
 

TheRealJoker

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Anderson is a wolb. If he can't start with this group, what are we really doing?
I assume you mean Harris? This isn’t a depth chart. And if it was teams rarely have rookies penciled in as a starter prior to preseason, even if it is known they are gonna start. Rookies have to earn that slot is my assumption for why.

But another poster made a good point about him possibly being Lovie’s Mike due to his ability to cover the deep zone in the Tampa 2 that Kirksey frequently left wide open last season. So I slotted him in at MLB.
 

leebigeztx

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I assume you mean Harris? This isn’t a depth chart. And if it was teams rarely have rookies penciled in as a starter prior to preseason, even if it is known they are gonna start. Rookies have to earn that slot is my assumption for why.

But another poster made a good point about him possibly being Lovie’s Mike due to his ability to cover the deep zone in the Tampa 2 that Kirksey frequently left wide open last season. So I slotted him in at MLB.
yep, I meant Harris
 

TheRealJoker

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I wanted to put together a rough draft for what the roster may look like to be able to properly evaluate how all of the pieces will fit in Nick/Lovie’s vision.

We knew that all the pieces couldn’t be fixed in one offseason. Judging by individual position groups relative to other teams they still come up on the low end more often than not. But I think judged as a whole they are a scrappy bunch who can win more games than national media currently expect. I see this as a 6 win team this year and way more competitive in their losses than last season. If a few players turn out to be a surprise (Mills is for real, Stingley meets potential) then this team could possibly flirt with .500 or be dark horse for the division if Colts lose Ryan or Titans lose Henry.

I think the “alignment” between GM/HC has finally happened and they got the right “type” of player. Sure some position groups are short on talent but judged as a whole they compliment each other well for the type of team they want to be. Tough physical football team that wont quit throughout the game and will stay mentally strong no matter the obstacles throughout the season.

In short, we are going to finally get a team worth rooting for that we haven’t had since the team’s last playoff game.
 

TheRealJoker

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Strongest position group:

Lovie said the CB play was unacceptable last offseason and this year he did something about it. Texans used the #3 pick to secure who they think can be a lockdown CB in Stingley. Also signed Steven Nelson who has been starting #2 CB for playoff teams last 3-4 years.

Tavierre Thomas had a breakout season as nickel CB and Desmond King will compete to win his more natural role at nickel with the loser being a quality 4th CB.

Tremon Smith and Isaac Yiadom mainly ST contributors but solid 5/6 bandaid options at CB if injuries arise.

The CB room is well-rounded with a little bit of everything from the true #1, vet #2, and solid nickels.
 

TheRealJoker

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Weakest position group:

There is a lot of wishing/hoping in the TE room. Hopefully a change in playing style benefits them all. But the team is essentially running it back minus losing Akins and adding Quitoriano. There is a lot of projection that Brevin Jordan can step up to be a #1 TE. And while he’s a talented player who was thought to be a good value for a 5th round pick, that is still expecting a lot. Count his emergence as a true #1 among the “welcome surprise” categories that could lift the win total up. But I am expecting TE to be addressed on day 1 or 2 next season.
 

TheRealJoker

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Scrappiest position group:

Going to go with DL as a whole combining DE/DT. Getting the pass rusher combo signing after the draft of Rasheem Green and Mario Addison is the cherry on top of this year’s draft. Green and Addison’s styles compliment each other nicely. Green can play early downs then bump inside on passing downs when Addison comes in outside.

Addison led Bills in sacks last two seasons with 7 last year on around 45% of the snaps. He is older and his reps need to be managed. But he is still a quality pass rusher. I expect him and Green to combine for 12-14 sacks this season. Also have Okoronkwo and Jenkins battling for that 4th DE spot. I give edge to Okoronkwo due to having a bit more juice as a pass rusher (though I am admittedly biased as a fan of his college tape projecting him to a 4-3 for first time as a pro).

Greenard is the set him and forget him player at DE. 8 sacks in 12 games last season. Just hope he can build on his success last season and emerge as a 10-12 sack type player.

Maliek Collins is the 3 technique and key to the defenses’ success. If he can consistently collapse the pocket then the big play sacks/takeaways will come. Good depth at the most important position on the defense per Lovie with Blacklock and rookie Booker.

Roy Lopez is the solid if unspectacular NT. His job is to give the other players opportunities to make plays. If they are making plays then he is doing his job.

This unit has a lot of high effort players who will rack up the hurries needed to force bad decisions. If Collins can consistently collapse the pocket then the sacks will come as well. If he can’t, then expect DT to be addressed with one of the firsts next season.
 

thunderkyss

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Roy Lopez is the solid if unspectacular NT. His job is to give the other players opportunities to make plays. If they are making plays then he is doing his job.
Are you saying Lopez lines up over the Center or on his shoulder?
 

steelbtexan

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I wanted to put together a rough draft for what the roster may look like to be able to properly evaluate how all of the pieces will fit in Nick/Lovie’s vision.

We knew that all the pieces couldn’t be fixed in one offseason. Judging by individual position groups relative to other teams they still come up on the low end more often than not. But I think judged as a whole they are a scrappy bunch who can win more games than national media currently expect. I see this as a 6 win team this year and way more competitive in their losses than last season. If a few players turn out to be a surprise (Mills is for real, Stingley meets potential) then this team could possibly flirt with .500 or be dark horse for the division if Colts lose Ryan or Titans lose Henry.

I think the “alignment” between GM/HC has finally happened and they got the right “type” of player. Sure some position groups are short on talent but judged as a whole they compliment each other well for the type of team they want to be. Tough physical football team that wont quit throughout the game and will stay mentally strong no matter the obstacles throughout the season.

In short, we are going to finally get a team worth rooting for that we haven’t had since the team’s last playoff game.
Yep, and the team that played in the last playoff game, their leaders were quitters.
 

steelbtexan

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Strongest position group:

Lovie said the CB play was unacceptable last offseason and this year he did something about it. Texans used the #3 pick to secure who they think can be a lockdown CB in Stingley. Also signed Steven Nelson who has been starting #2 CB for playoff teams last 3-4 years.

Tavierre Thomas had a breakout season as nickel CB and Desmond King will compete to win his more natural role at nickel with the loser being a quality 4th CB.

Tremon Smith and Isaac Yiadom mainly ST contributors but solid 5/6 bandaid options at CB if injuries arise.

The CB room is well-rounded with a little bit of everything from the true #1, vet #2, and solid nickels.
I'm hoping that Caserio signs James Bradberry after he's cut. Add him and this is one of the best CB rooms in the NFL. If Stingley can stay healthy.



Weakest position group:

There is a lot of wishing/hoping in the TE room. Hopefully a change in playing style benefits them all. But the team is essentially running it back minus losing Akins and adding Quitoriano. There is a lot of projection that Brevin Jordan can step up to be a #1 TE. And while he’s a talented player who was thought to be a good value for a 5th round pick, that is still expecting a lot. Count his emergence as a true #1 among the “welcome surprise” categories that could lift the win total up. But I am expecting TE to be addressed on day 1 or 2 next season.
Yep, and there were some pretty good TE's out there in FA this offseason. I'm hoping Mayer from Notre Dame is Caserio's pick in the 1st rd next yr.



Scrappiest position group:

Going to go with DL as a whole combining DE/DT. Getting the pass rusher combo signing after the draft of Rasheem Green and Mario Addison is the cherry on top of this year’s draft. Green and Addison’s styles compliment each other nicely. Green can play early downs then bump inside on passing downs when Addison comes in outside.

Addison led Bills in sacks last two seasons with 7 last year on around 45% of the snaps. He is older and his reps need to be managed. But he is still a quality pass rusher. I expect him and Green to combine for 12-14 sacks this season. Also have Okoronkwo and Jenkins battling for that 4th DE spot. I give edge to Okoronkwo due to having a bit more juice as a pass rusher (though I am admittedly biased as a fan of his college tape projecting him to a 4-3 for first time as a pro).

Greenard is the set him and forget him player at DE. 8 sacks in 12 games last season. Just hope he can build on his success last season and emerge as a 10-12 sack type player.

Maliek Collins is the 3 technique and key to the defenses’ success. If he can consistently collapse the pocket then the big play sacks/takeaways will come. Good depth at the most important position on the defense per Lovie with Blacklock and rookie Booker.

Roy Lopez is the solid if unspectacular NT. His job is to give the other players opportunities to make plays. If they are making plays then he is doing his job.

This unit has a lot of high effort players who will rack up the hurries needed to force bad decisions. If Collins can consistently collapse the pocket then the sacks will come as well. If he can’t, then expect DT to be addressed with one of the firsts next season.
The interior DL looks good but I wonder how they will hold up against the Taylor/Henry's of the world. The edge group still needs to find a true pass rusher and needs depth.
 

steelbtexan

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I get that, but he doesn't seem like a vet minimum type of player.
I'm not that familiar with him but it seems like he's going to be fairly expensive, no?
He's going to be getting around 22 mil from the NYG.

So I would guess you could get him for around 5 mil or so.
 

Texansphan

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I wanted to put together a rough draft for what the roster may look like to be able to properly evaluate how all of the pieces will fit in Nick/Lovie’s vision.

We knew that all the pieces couldn’t be fixed in one offseason. Judging by individual position groups relative to other teams they still come up on the low end more often than not. But I think judged as a whole they are a scrappy bunch who can win more games than national media currently expect. I see this as a 6 win team this year and way more competitive in their losses than last season. If a few players turn out to be a surprise (Mills is for real, Stingley meets potential) then this team could possibly flirt with .500 or be dark horse for the division if Colts lose Ryan or Titans lose Henry.

I think the “alignment” between GM/HC has finally happened and they got the right “type” of player. Sure some position groups are short on talent but judged as a whole they compliment each other well for the type of team they want to be. Tough physical football team that wont quit throughout the game and will stay mentally strong no matter the obstacles throughout the season.

In short, we are going to finally get a team worth rooting for that we haven’t had since the team’s last playoff game.
Trying to have a perfectly complete roster puzzle to fit a scheme is not a good way to construct a team imho.
For instance, what happens when a key piece or two are injured? The whole thing collapses like a house of cards.
A good coach will adjust his "scheme" according to roster availability. A good opposition coach will try to figure out what he can possibly attempt in that situation and that is where the chess game begins. Sure, you need a target roster to aim for, but what about playing to your team's strengths?
 

steelbtexan

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Trying to have a perfectly complete roster puzzle to fit a scheme is not a good way to construct a team imho.
For instance, what happens when a key piece or two are injured? The whole thing collapses like a house of cards.
A good coach will adjust his "scheme" according to roster availability. A good opposition coach will try to figure out what he can possibly attempt in that situation and that is where the chess game begins. Sure, you need a target roster to aim for, but what about playing to your team's strengths?
So you are saying a team shouldn't try to fill it's roster with players that fit the scheme they're trying to run?
 

TheRealJoker

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Trying to have a perfectly complete roster puzzle to fit a scheme is not a good way to construct a team imho.
For instance, what happens when a key piece or two are injured? The whole thing collapses like a house of cards.
A good coach will adjust his "scheme" according to roster availability. A good opposition coach will try to figure out what he can possibly attempt in that situation and that is where the chess game begins. Sure, you need a target roster to aim for, but what about playing to your team's strengths?
So you are instead saying we should focus on being multiple, tough smart dependable yada yada yada
 

cuppacoffee

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I am fairly certain that our fall back, PC, head coach will solve all our problems. :rolleyes:
Remind me again why he was available? Why he wasn't head coach last year? IMWTK.

:coffee:
 

TheRealJoker

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I am fairly certain that our fall back, PC, head coach will solve all our problems. :rolleyes:
Remind me again why he was available? Why he wasn't head coach last year? IMWTK.

:coffee:
This thread isn’t about “solving problems”. There are plenty of threads to discuss that. This one is projecting a 53 man roster given the players on the team.

Update: Adding Jerry Hughes to final roster and taking off UDFA Daniel. Hoping that Booker can be a solid backup NT if needed.
 

steelbtexan

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Not particularly.
But I would not advocate passing on a top tier type guy because you needed another position below him on the board.
I'm a BPA guy.

When you have as many needs as the Texans did before this draft, you can truly go BPA. Which is what I feel Caserio did with Stingley/Green/Petrie and obviously whether we agree or not Caserio had Metchie as his #1 rated slot WR.
 

TheRealJoker

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I really like the makeup of this DL from
the coach to the mix of players.

(5) DE: Greenard, Green, Hughes, Addison, Okoronkwo

(4) DT: Collins, Lopez, Blacklock, Booker

New DL coach Jacques Cesaire was an undrafted player who had a productive 9 year career as a team leader for the Chargers. He spent the last two seasons as the Bills assistant DL coach and brings two veteran leaders in Hughes/Addison to the team to help install a high effort physical brand of DL play.

Also signed Rasheem Green and return Greenard. Two ascending players who are the favorites to start at both DE spots being spelled by the veterans.

Okoronkwo has a chance to fill the Jacob Martin role as designated pass rush specialist. Not as fast as Martin but bigger and plenty quick with a high motor.

DT returns Collins, Lopez and Blacklock. Collins is solid fit as 3T for Lovie’s scheme. Can collapse the pocket consistently. Lopez pleasant surprise year 1 hope to continue ascension in year 2 as starting NT.

Blacklock has not yet met expectations for his draft slot but coming out of TCU has the skillset to be a solid 3T. Currently backing up Maliek Collins and providing rotational depth.

Booker added in draft is a smart, athletic and versatile young DT. Can play both DT positions with success and will push for playing time early.

This is a quality rotation to provide consistent pressure on opposing offenses. I think this defense will take the ball away more this season and will not fade late as often.
 

Texansphan

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I'm a BPA guy.

When you have as many needs as the Texans did before this draft, you can truly go BPA. Which is what I feel Caserio did with Stingley/Green/Petrie and obviously whether we agree or not Caserio had Metchie as his #1 rated slot WR.
Yep.
Look what JJ and AJ did for this team.
I feel if you can have a rock star on both sides of the ball , you have a nucleus to build around them. That includes a half way decent QB.
Metchie is not a burner, but is a natural route runner. He has the happy knack of getting separation.
 


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