To your point. Jackson is a unique talent. Neither Taylor or even Watson can or should run as often as Jackson. Although, I would like to see the Texans "steal" some of the Ravens' formations, use of their TEs and their power running game, if fans are thinking that 31 year old, oft injured Tyrod Taylor will be able to last a season running like Jackson or constantly keeping the ball on RPOs, they should get ready to hear starting at QB for the Houston Texans......Davis Mills
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[Pick 67] Davis Mills QB Stanford
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How much input do you think Culley had in that offense? He was a position coach. His job was to disseminate the plan conceived by the OC to the WRs.
He was an indian not a chief
Number19
Hall of Fame
Doesn't matter what role he had in his previous organizations. He had their playbook and he participated in all the coaches sessions. Doesn't matter that he was an indian.
He has final say on the offensive scheming the Texans will employ. He of course has input from the indians under him. In early coaching sessions, he would have laid out his objectives and vision for the offense he wanted to implement. Then as a coaching staff team, he and his coaches would have begun to put together their playbook and evaluate the players on the roster and how they would be utilized to fit their scheme. Doesn't matter who had what input. They are emplementing Culley's vision.
Now, I'm also confident that Caserio thoughly interviewed Culley and what Culley's offensive philosophy was, what he wanted to implement and made clear what his (Caserio) expected of Culley. Before he hired Culley, Caserio would have made certain the two of them were on the same page.
Last one I'll post
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
It's easy to get one's expectations up with Mills. Biggest knock is inexperience, so should likely not be thrown to the lions too soon.
Hopefully we have good coaches and also won't need to.
I know I'm sipping some Koolaid, but the more I see of the kid, the more hopeful I am of his potential.
Hopefully they've got an o-line in place that can protect him when he eventually starts, and maybe not putting the weight of the franchise on his back right off the bat will give him time to develop and grow into the leader this team needs.
Embrace the rebuild and just enjoy the ride.
Hopefully they've got an o-line in place that can protect him when he eventually starts, and maybe not putting the weight of the franchise on his back right off the bat will give him time to develop and grow into the leader this team needs.
Embrace the rebuild and just enjoy the ride.
Yeah, watching the three videos I posted, I actually started feeling good about Mills then I watched the third one... & that’s what I normally think about 3rd Rd QBs. & I’m back to not understanding the pick.
I know I'm sipping some Koolaid, but the more I see of the kid, the more hopeful I am of his potential.
Hopefully they've got an o-line in place that can protect him when he eventually starts, and maybe not putting the weight of the franchise on his back right off the bat will give him time to develop and grow into the leader this team needs.
Embrace the rebuild and just enjoy the ride.
I think ideally this guy wouldn't play at all this year .... Just run the scout team and hold the clip board.
Problem is , neither of the other QB's are the way forward and who the hell knows what's going to happen with the Oily Anus .... Err Watson.
They almost have to play Mills at some point to see what they have going into the next draft .... Do we need to draft a QB early next year or not? You just don't know without putting him under center.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Hey Ryan might end up being the starter if Tyrod goes down.
Your post is spot on. No way I want anyone of our quarterbacks running the ball like Jackson.
I don’t believe that. They can look at guys play college ball in college & decide if they want to draft one with a high pick.
Same way they should be able to watch him develop on the scout team & talk to him in the meeting room. They should have a much better “feel” for him than they would for any QB in the draft.
Like when the Cowboys had Romo. They knew. They also had the luxury of Bledsoe, but they knew they had a starter in Romo.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
you just never know?
Tyrod was supposed to be the game one starter for the Chargers last season but instead threw Justin Herbert in without any first team reps. The rest is History!
You know who the QB coach was for Justin Herbert?
Pep Hamilton.
Do you know who the Texans brought in this offseason to be the new QB coach?
Pep Hamilton.
Mills/Texans are in good hands
all that Bill O’Brian QB guru crap was just that crap, this is what a real QB guru looks like.
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Dejaview
All Pro
If you want I can put together a vid showing Jesus Christ’s flaws and say, you know, he’s just never going to be a messiah. But it was those intangibles that came naturally That made him stand out a little. Took a while. This guy is ice smart. He’s got to get more experience but his learning curve isn’t about footwork or pocket presence or reading a defense or throwing touch passes or bullets. He’s exactly who you would take in the third. I read different things than some but his inner calmness impresses me. He’s focused on football and not anything else. No doubt the QB’s picked ahead of him are nothing but a motivator for this smart kid. Obviously JMO, but ill Bet this kid will produce some draft picks if we go that way. BTW, May the Fourth be with you.
texanhead08
All Pro
The more I think about this pick the more I think it wasn't a good choice. This is the kind of pick you make when you have a solid roster like the Seahawks did when they selected Russell Wilson. We have too many holes to try and pick a guy when this roster has no chance to give him a chance to succeed.
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
This thread is gonna be awesome when we draft a qb next year
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
I can see the hype for Mills building from Texans fans over the next 5-6 months and there are plenty of good reasons for it.
Let's all keep our fingers crossed.
Let's all keep our fingers crossed.
Texan Asylum
Hall of Fame
Like the pick and especially like the kid. Great potential and hopefully a lot less of the bravado like the archer or air guitar crap. Secondly, the Houston market and it being in the same state as the Girls of the North. I find that most Texans fans have some direct tie to Houston itself. People groups go in and out of Houston, due to the nature of the prominent industry there, so most of those folks already have a favorite team before they get there. Perhaps the largest part of us who were born there may actually stay there or thereabouts. Those of us who actually moved away stand out like a sore thumb. Not many of us are out here in the wilderness. Please send help. 
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
I imagine the Texans aren't envisioning him having to start this season - unless disaster strikes.
They have improved the oline and made a major upgrade in the oline coaching so I expect good things to happen for the QBs.
I hope they bring in one more weapon on offense to throw the ball to - or Donte Moncrief can have a career year.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
You do realize QB is a hole right now right? Ideally he either doesn’t play or only plays a few plays to get a feel for an NFL level game. The roster you see now will be very different than the roster if/when Mills becomes the starter.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
That right there will make the team better overall.
Jack Burton
Veteran
PHIL has 3 1sts next year...
I see Watson in green and HOU with 4 1’s to play with.
I see Watson in green and HOU with 4 1’s to play with.
I was thinking the same thing. Even if something were to happen to both Tyrod & Finley I thought they would sign some FA veteran to finish the season.
Then someone reminded me Justin Herbert wasn't "supposed" to play last year, then all of a sudden he's starting.
Who knows, if they feel like he's ready, he could start sometime in 2021
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Don’t forget Watson’s NTC so any team Texans look to make a deal with they will have to first make sure there are plenty of Instagram massage therapists there.
Jack Burton
Veteran
Tyrod got a chest injury?!?! Week 2 I think?!? and Herbert came and never looked back. Pep will have the kid as prepared as he ever will be week 1.
Jack Burton
Veteran
Oh I’m sure there’s some “specialists” in the “city of brotherly love.” Lol.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Justin Herbert also had a lot more experience in college with a lot better numbers. There's just so much unknown with Mills, and the few games he has played, the numbers aren't all that great.
texanhead08
All Pro
Jack Burton
Veteran
Who cares. This team blows. They drafted a kid with projected, insanely high, elite upside and if he works out he’s a steal, if not who cares they will have plenty of high draft picks from trading the perv.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
you just never know?
Tyrod was supposed to be the game one starter for the Chargers last season but instead threw Justin Herbert in without any first team reps. The rest is History!
You know who the QB coach was for Justin Herbert?
Pep Hamilton.
Do you know who the Texans brought in this offseason to be the new QB coach?
Pep Hamilton.
Mills/Texans are in good hands
all that Bill O’Brian QB guru crap was just that crap, this is what a real QB guru looks like.
Pep Hamilton was also QB coach for:
Chad Pennington - 16 TD, 9 INT, 91.0 passer rating in '04
Brooks Bollinger - 7 TD, 6 INT, 72.9 PR in '05
Brian Griese - 10 TD, 12 INT, 75.6 PR in '07
Kyle Orton - 18 TD, 12 INT, 79.9 PR in '08
Jay Cutler - 27 TD, 26 INT, 76.8 PR in '09
Number19
Hall of Fame
That would be good for 5 years; but then you'd have four number one contracts coming up all in the same year. You're likely to lose at least two.
Jack Burton
Veteran
I would draft 2 1’s and then trade back with the other 2 and get a bunch of 2nds.
Texazan
Our HOF 34
Well the other side to that is the likelihood of all four being “worthy” to sign after 5 years later is slim. Now if you did hit on all four then that’s amazing and maybe you move a couple beforehand. At any rate I’d take my chances with four 1sts all day, plenty of options
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Only counts nowadays what have you done for me lately. Nobody saw Herbert develop into a franchise QB that quickly, nobody.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
If they have a couple of 1st rounders, yes.
I may be more critical if only one, but it will depend on how Mills looks after a year of practice.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
I can see much worse situations for a team than 4 number one picks playing to the level where they earn the 5th year rookie option at the same time... EX: Texans current predicament
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Of course. That’s why nobody knows the whole story about anything anymore.
And he was the 6th overall pick. There was a lot better chance he’d turn into something than had he been a 3rd round pick.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Keep in mind we're not talking about our 1st round, traded up for, sure fire franchise QB here we are talking about a guy we drafted in the 3rd round. I think people have a skewed view of the pick because he was our first pick of the draft but he's still a 3rd round QB pick. In other words a project player with the right tools but a lot of unknowns, if he was anything more he would have gone in the 1st or 2nd. I think Mills has a lot of upsides, I don't know if he can be anything more than a solid backup and I don't believe at all he can be even that before 2022 but I'm ok with that because 2021 season is like the last leg of the 40 years of wilderness wandering the previous 5 years have been.
banned1976
sleeper mode
The floor on this guy is Tom Savage and the ceiling is Andrew Luck?
My prediction is, Mills will receive a little playing time this season but not play well enough to woo anyone and the Texans draft a quarterback first overall in 2022. In that scenario the Texans just drafted competition at the quarterback position for the 2022 season. Not the worst use of your highest pick in the draft this year, but not the best, either. There were probably 6-10 players along the DL and in the secondary drafted after the 67th pick that will likely receive significant playing time with their teams in 2021 and become solid starters in the very near future. They may never be pro-bowlers but not all players on winning football teams are.
The real question I have in regards to Caserio is, can he accept failure or will he behave like the previous regimes and keep trotting his mistakes out onto the field? Rick Smith and O'Brien both kept players around too long out of loyalty and/or believing their initial instincts were right. So far, I'm giving Caserio the benefit of the doubt. I'm hoping that if I am right, and Davis Mills doesn't progress quickly, the Texans draft the best quarterback available to them if they are indeed picking in the top 3 next season.
My prediction is, Mills will receive a little playing time this season but not play well enough to woo anyone and the Texans draft a quarterback first overall in 2022. In that scenario the Texans just drafted competition at the quarterback position for the 2022 season. Not the worst use of your highest pick in the draft this year, but not the best, either. There were probably 6-10 players along the DL and in the secondary drafted after the 67th pick that will likely receive significant playing time with their teams in 2021 and become solid starters in the very near future. They may never be pro-bowlers but not all players on winning football teams are.
The real question I have in regards to Caserio is, can he accept failure or will he behave like the previous regimes and keep trotting his mistakes out onto the field? Rick Smith and O'Brien both kept players around too long out of loyalty and/or believing their initial instincts were right. So far, I'm giving Caserio the benefit of the doubt. I'm hoping that if I am right, and Davis Mills doesn't progress quickly, the Texans draft the best quarterback available to them if they are indeed picking in the top 3 next season.
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CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Watching some of the "bad"........... I have to ask myself if, in some of the examples presented, the receivers didn't run the correct routes.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Yeah some media heads we’re talking about we have so many holes and we drafted a quarterback. And I’m like isn’t that not a hole of ours. Do they not see what the freak-a-ziod going on with Watson? Not only that do you really expect to fill in every freaking need with just one pick in the third round. We did move up to acquire a wide receiver who has the potential to be a day one starter. That was a need that needed to be addressed as well. Nick took the approach of filling some of those needs on defense through free agency for this season. I’m pretty sure he will address those needs for the 2022 season in next year’s draft. It’s a strong possibility they will have at least 3 first round picks and a couple second round picks in that draft. Especially since a lot of those free agents signings are on a 1-2 year prove it deals.
Now with Mills, he looks to have potential. His college coach was on 790 yesterday ( I posted that interview on here) and he had a lot of positive things to say about Mills. Yes he wasn’t going to bash the young man either. But he was pretty convincing about the talent we just acquired. Like Steel said, if Nick hits on this pick. That will be the steal of the draft. And the following year’s draft you can actually address the holes that we need. Especially if we are able to still get a king’s ransom for DQuit.
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It’s been long enough that we could see “son of Carr”.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
I also wonder if Caserio didn't go more heavy offense to possibly use it to recruit an OC next year. Lets be honest unless he pulls a rabbit out of his hat without Watson Kelly's days as OC are numbered so this way they can say to a candidate OC "Look we've drafted some solid players with lots of upsides and we just need someone that utilize the tools they've been given. We got great coaches at both QB and Oline and our HC is very much a hands off, oversee the big picture type of guy so you'll be able to design the type of offense you think will fit best with the team."
If they have some early picks next year due to either record or Watson trade then thats more for even better bait.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Texans interview process:
Texan's: Do you have an Instagram account?
Player: No.
Texans: Call the pick in.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Herbert was only a three star recruit, dual threat QB coming out of Sheldon High School class of 2016. Mills was a five star recruit out of Norcross Georgia ranked #1 QB in the nation 2017. Per Rivals.
Davis Mills suffered from early injuries that impacted his career @ Stanford greatly. But since has fully recovered and athletically stronger than ever. Now does he get me as excited as watching Herbert, no. To me he lacks arm strength, size and has been mentioned, because of injuries, experience against top flight competition. But I do think he can command the huddle and be excellent system QB, like a Ryan Fitzpatrick. If he develops as planned has starter potential, and plus back-up if they take a #1 next year. You need at least two quality QB’s on your roster, even if you have one that’s a superstar. There will always be a market and trade value for one in the NFL.
Davis Mills suffered from early injuries that impacted his career @ Stanford greatly. But since has fully recovered and athletically stronger than ever. Now does he get me as excited as watching Herbert, no. To me he lacks arm strength, size and has been mentioned, because of injuries, experience against top flight competition. But I do think he can command the huddle and be excellent system QB, like a Ryan Fitzpatrick. If he develops as planned has starter potential, and plus back-up if they take a #1 next year. You need at least two quality QB’s on your roster, even if you have one that’s a superstar. There will always be a market and trade value for one in the NFL.
Jack Burton
Veteran
Mills is just a product of poor timing. He’s been injury free for 2 years and then covid threw everything right back into a tailspin.
He was projected to be a top 10 pick next year.
HOU had nothing to lose taking him.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Based off those circumstances you mentioned is reason why he didn’t risk another year @ Stanford. Otherwise he turns into a top tier 2022 prospect and no worse that 2nd rd. pick most likely top 20.