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GP said:
This ^^^^^

Lesson learned: Stay out of Rah-Rah threads if you disagree with the chant.
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This presupposes that self proclaimed super intellectuals can figure out when it's a rah rah thread.

It's got to be hard living in a world with so many nitwits.

This whole situation is laughable anyway. He broke a team rule akin to parking in Kubiak's parking place or twitting a pic of Mario in his superman underroos.

He can either run or he can't. Someone looking at an MRI, (how many weeks before the game?), is not going to make a lick of difference to how Indy prepares for us.

The rest is about respect for someone willing to come on here and share some great info on one of our players.

Show some.
 
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ESAD2-14 said:
I'm sure that once word gets out about this thread, and it seems to have already done that unfortunately, we (TTalk) may end up losing a unique perspective on one of the Texans players.
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Hopefully that is not true and TexMexMom understands in any group of people there will be some with divergent (to put it nicely) opinions.

The rest of your post was excellent as well.
 
DBCooper said:
This presupposes that self proclaimed super intellectuals can figure out when it's a rah rah thread.

It's got to be hard living in a world with so many nitwits.

This whole situation is laughable anyway. He broke a team rule akin to parking in Kubiak's parking place or twitting a pic of Mario in his superman underroos.

He can either run or he can't. Someone looking at an MRI, (how many weeks before the game?), is not going to make a lick of difference to how Indy prepares for us.

The rest about respect for someone willing to come on here and share some great info on one of our players.

Show some.
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Best post in this whole thread-Agree 1000%!!

(Must spread rep, blah, blah)
 
I know that when I look at my posts count and reps, my muscles start to grow & then it dawns on me that is my head getting bigger.
 
GP said:
Are we going to analyze things?
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One of us will.

You're extremely hyper-critical of ANYTHING I post,
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Nope and you'll never get this but I have said it a hundred times already. I don't like crystal ball, oiuji board, tarot card posts. It's cool if you want to make them as you clearly do. But expect other people to kick back if we don't buy into the fact that the chicken entrails told you what was in McNair's heart when he made a decision. It ain't personal. It is stylistic.

I have over 8,000 rep points and you can't find ONE thing to agree with me on? Don't you find that stat to be revealing?
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I agree with you on things. Look for the posts I don't respond to. Why would I, you already made the point. And you have only repped me 1-2 times. I'm not kicking the dog over it. Neither should you. Try being succinct and stepping away from "my precious" crystal ball and it might happen more often.
 
NitroGSXR said:
I like them because it allows me to say something mundane or personal without wasting a post but I certainly don't use the numbers as a value indicator. I read their actual posts to determine that.
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SWT's Number of posts was an indicater of the *********gery in his soul.

Mike
 
GP, I think a lot of the backlash you are experiencing is from your tone. From my persepective it seems your posts in this thread were geared toward more of a challenge to AF's mom and Arian himself through his mother, as opposed to just stating your opinion. Those of us that have been on TT long enough know that you have an opinion on just about everything, and your not shy about letting everyone know what it is. Hell, I think you would write an 8 paragraph dissertation on why wooden toothpicks are superior to plastic ones. Also it seems sometimes (to me anyway) you get so caught up in letting us all know what your opinion is you start to believe what your saying is actual fact, as opposed to just an opinion. It's like watching a snow ball rolling downhill grow bigger and bigger, but in the form of a short novel.

I agree that AF probably should be a little more selective with what he posts on Twitter, but all in all it is not that serious. I personally do not understand or care to understand the Twitter phenomenon, that goes for Facebook and all the other social networking stuff. Then again I was raised in a different era where none of that existed and social networking generally was face to face or at the very least over a phone. Athletes these days have so many more opportunities to step on their cranks, and have it be seen, then they did 10, 20, 30 yrs ago. Used to be the only time you heard from an athlete was in an evening news interview or some quotes in the Sunday paper. The impression I get from AF and his posting of the MRI is he is jacking w/ the media, perhaps even conducting his own social networking experiment of sorts. Maybe to see how much people get worked up over nothing, perhaps that is part of his sense of humor TexMexMom was talking about. If he screwed up by doing so and violated team policy he has to pay his dues for that, simple enough.

I'm sure that once word gets out about this thread, and it seems to have already done that unfortunately, we (TTalk) may end up losing a unique perspective on one of the Texans players.
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^^^This!!!^^^
repped..
 
Please understand that I am not thin skinned. I spent 5 years on Tennessee message boards where I earned my PhD in Elephant Skin. I may disagree with posters vehemently, but I don't generally take it personally. I rather like a good, well thought out debate. More than anything, I don't want to change the way folks post on here just because I'm present. I realize my presence has an affect on the prime directive, but I'd love for it to be minimal.
 
Glad you are around, TexMexMom.

Now please excuse me for a second while I clean up a mess on Aisle 9... :howdy:

GP said:
I never called YOU an ass.
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Riiiiiight. You quote me and reply with: "All this has done is make asses out of you guys who were high-fiving Arian's mom for having posted on here."

Okey-dokey. Basically you are telling me that you did not say what you said. :hmmm:

GP said:
I said "some" people, but if you want to out yourself, go for it. Re-read the post.
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I've read it and the word "some" never appeared in your post. Perhaps it is you that should read what you write....unless.... :whistle:

GP said:
Oh, so you know better than the Texans brass too? I guess they're as small as other wee little ants on here too, huh?
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This is where you started talking out of your assumption. I never mentioned the Texans front office. It's their business. It's only ENTERTAINMENT to the rest of us...at least that's all it should be to the rest of us.

It's a damn shame that you can't pause yourself and reflect on the unique opportunity that has been presented to us by having a mom of one of our star players on the board. Instead you just had to get on your soapbox and pointificate ad nauseam + infinity with a cherry on top.

GP said:
The whole thing is just unfortunate. We're playing a game Thursday night, which is 24 hours from now, and the focus should be on that game. But it's not. We're debating Arian's social media skills. His doing, not mine.
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God forbid we talk about current news stories. It's a freakin' meaningless exhibition game with a bunch of scrubs. Funny thing is that I'd wager that you, of all people, have written more words about Arian's social media skills than any other forum member. Does your own pill taste as bitter when you swallow it?

BTW me---> :highfive: <---TexMexMom

I hope her post count make it to 50, because I'd bet her rep points will immediately explode.
 
TexMexMom said:
Please understand that I am not thin skinned. I spent 5 years on Tennessee message boards where I earned my PhD in Elephant Skin. I may disagree with posters vehemently, but I don't generally take it personally. I rather like a good, well thought out debate. More than anything, I don't want to change the way folks post on here just because I'm present. I realize my presence has an affect on the prime directive, but I'd love for it to be minimal.
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Now that we know we haven't scared you off, can we get that recipe for red chile posole? We would like to officially make it Battle Red Chile Posole for gameday tailgates.
 
TexMexMom said:
Please understand that I am not thin skinned. I spent 5 years on Tennessee message boards where I earned my PhD in Elephant Skin. I may disagree with posters vehemently, but I don't generally take it personally. I rather like a good, well thought out debate. More than anything, I don't want to change the way folks post on here just because I'm present. I realize my presence has an affect on the prime directive, but I'd love for it to be minimal.
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As you can see by some of the silliness in the responses in this post that you being here hasn't affected how we interact with each other, really it just gives us another perspective. I want to thank you for that, whether we agree with you or not!!
 
TexMexMom said:
Please understand that I am not thin skinned. I spent 5 years on Tennessee message boards where I earned my PhD in Elephant Skin. I may disagree with posters vehemently, but I don't generally take it personally. I rather like a good, well thought out debate. More than anything, I don't want to change the way folks post on here just because I'm present. I realize my presence has an affect on the prime directive, but I'd love for it to be minimal.
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Actually, I would like your presence to change the way people post.

It seems to me that the level of discourse as it relates to sports sometimes does treat people like commodities or objects and not people who have feelings and families.

I think it is perfectly acceptable to give criticism of people and actions without getting overly personal or saying things you wouldn't say to that person or their family to their face.

One of the reasons I started writing on the web was I was just so sick of snark. That I thought it was quite possible to have fair discussions and debates on sport topics as friends and fans without getting unnecessarily hostile to each other and to the players we were talking about. I also thought that by connect fans with more info about the players behind the mask, that it would be more fun watching the games--which it is to me.

Why is it that people are comfortable saying nasty things to each other about sports when on Sundays they wouldn't be happy if their pastor heard them say such things?

There is enough nastiness and hostility in the world without adding to it. Sometimes you get challenged trying to live that way, some days more than others, but it is something I believe in.

/stepping off utopian soapbox //throws down mike
 
Brisco_County said:
Now that we know we haven't scared you off, can we get that recipe for red chile posole? We would like to officially make it Battle Red Chile Posole for gameday tailgates.
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Gotta give up the Green Chile Stew recipe too, I just bought 2lbs of fresh Hatch chiles, and roasted them. Gotta use them someway.
 
Texans_Chick said:
Actually, I would like your presence to change the way people post.

It seems to me that the level of discourse as it relates to sports sometimes does treat people like commodities or objects and not people who have feelings and families.

I think it is perfectly acceptable to give criticism of people and actions without getting overly personal or saying things you wouldn't say to that person or their family to their face.

One of the reasons I started writing on the web was I was just so sick of snark. That I thought it was quite possible to have fair discussions and debates on sport topics as friends and fans without getting unnecessarily hostile to each other and to the players we were talking about. I also thought that by connect fans with more info about the players behind the mask, that it would be more fun watching the games--which it is to me.

Why is it that people are comfortable saying nasty things to each other about sports when on Sundays they wouldn't be happy if their pastor heard them say such things?

There is enough nastiness and hostility in the world without adding to it. Sometimes you get challenged trying to live that way, some days more than others, but it is something I believe in.

/stepping off utopian soapbox //throws down mike
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lol...Thanks Steph. I appreciate that. But when a family member posts and folks are nice, they're labeled as suck ups. Then you have those who have to be extra confrontational just to prove they're not suck ups. I've learned to live with both.
 
Albuquerque in the house! Me, Texmexmom and a whole lotta cowgirl and bronco fans round these parts. Thank God for directv is all I gotta say.
 
I'd also like to take the chance to thank Arian's Mom for coming and shedding insight on complicated matters. We're pretty damn lucky to have a family member of one of our best players come and share thoughts with the rest of the board.
 
ESAD2-14 said:
Gotta give up the Green Chile Stew recipe too, I just bought 2lbs of fresh Hatch chiles, and roasted them. Gotta use them someway.
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My wife is from Las Cruces and would make Hatch green chile ice cream. Her green chile stew is to die for! After Texmex, New MexMex is my favorite Mexican food!!
Talking food is way better than talking tweets.
 
GP said:
I have over 8,000 rep points
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ROTFLMMFAO!!!!!!! No you didn't go to the "I have this many rep points" card. Say it ain't so! Anybody who thinks that means anything is delusional at best. Posting on a message board isn't a freaking contest. State your opinion and be done with it. Guess what? Some will agree with your opinion and others won't.

The problem is that when people state their opinion and someone disagrees with it, it's like they're on a mission to try and conform them to their point of view. Like the dude that has the "I hate Mario" bug up his butt. Yes we know and we don't need to see it in every freaking thread you post in. Get over yourselves people.

Oops! I only have 817 rep points (had to look it up 'cause I don't give a rat's ass about that stuff) so I probably should just bow down to the mighty 8,000.

And FWIW, I don't give a crap what Arian does on Twitter. I didn't become a fan of Arian because of what he tweets. No offense to his mom, but I only care about what Arian Foster does on a football field. I couldn't care less what he does off of it.
 
Texans_Chick said:
It seems to me that the level of discourse as it relates to sports sometimes does treat people like commodities or objects and not people who have feelings and families.

I think it is perfectly acceptable to give criticism of people and actions without getting overly personal or saying things you wouldn't say to that person or their family to their face.

One of the reasons I started writing on the web was I was just so sick of snark. That I thought it was quite possible to have fair discussions and debates on sport topics as friends and fans without getting unnecessarily hostile to each other and to the players we were talking about. I also thought that by connect fans with more info about the players behind the mask, that it would be more fun watching the games--which it is to me.
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I agree 1000% TChick.

If a guy can't play, he can't play. I believe our comments should stop right there. Some guys here (& I'm quite embarrassed by it to tell you the truth) talk about these players as if the player mugged their mothers or something. I think totally uncalled for. Some of the names thrown about in reference to Carr, TJ, Babin, Okoye, Buchanon...... totally uncalled for imo



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thunderkyss said:
I agree 1000% TChick.

If a guy can't play, he can't play. I believe our comments should stop right there. Some guys here (& I'm quite embarrassed by it to tell you the truth) talk about these players as if the player mugged their mothers or something. I think totally uncalled for. Some of the names thrown about in reference to Carr, TJ, Babin, Okoye, Buchanon...... totally uncalled for imo



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To me, that's a large part of Arian's tweets. I, personally, feel an attachment to the players on my favorite team. FFL's detract from that connection a true fan of the game feels. I don't have a problem with FFL's, but they tend to make people think more in terms of logic than the emotional rollercoater that is life for an NFL fan. I can't think of the NFL in those terms.
 
Last I remember this was a free country, and freedom of speech comes with that. That means you may not like what I have to say but I have the right to say that and you have the right disagree.

For me there is nothing like a good heated debate brings out the passion and fire in people and that's ok. Some people like to sit around smoke a pipe and talk about things calmly, not my style but nothing wrong with it either.

I prefer a good ole roast, and there is nothing wrong with that either.
 
DocBar said:
My wife is from Las Cruces and would make Hatch green chile ice cream. Her green chile stew is to die for! After Texmex, New MexMex is my favorite Mexican food!!
Talking food is way better than talking tweets.
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I lived in NM for 7 years. Ruidoso, Artesia, Red River, Ute Park, Raton, and Cimarron, one of the jobs I had took me to many other corners as well. Needless to say I got around that state. Have tasted many fine green chile dishes from various parts of NM. You've never had chili fries until you have had Green Chili Cheese Fries. I'm not sure if it still holds true but you used to be able to order burgers at Sonic with green chili's on them, damn good. Chili Relleno using Green Chili's instead of Poblano is most excellent, I could go on and on so I'll shut up now. Outside of Texas, NM is about the only other place I would consider hangin' my hat.
 
silvrhand said:
Last I remember this was a free country, and freedom of speech comes with that. That means you may not like what I have to say but I have the right to say that and you have the right disagree.

For me there is nothing like a good heated debate brings out the passion and fire in people and that's ok. Some people like to sit around smoke a pipe and talk about things calmly, not my style but nothing wrong with it either.

I prefer a good ole roast, and there is nothing wrong with that either.
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It's totally possible to be extremely passionate and emotional in your words without devolving into overly-personal rude talk towards other posters or about players, personnel etc. It IS dehumanizing. Much of our society is dehumanizing and objectifying but it is made easier by the anonymous nature of the internet.

I'm not impinging on anyone's freedom of speech. I'm just using my freedom of speech to put a spotlight on behaviors that aren't necessary, especially among a fanbase that wants the same thing.

I criticize plenty of stuff, but nobody needs to get overly personal about anybody. The best free speech is used responsibly and in a way that doesn't make you feel like a hypocrite when you go to church on Sunday. Some days that is more challenging than others.
 
DocBar said:
To me, that's a large part of Arian's tweets. I, personally, feel an attachment to the players on my favorite team. FFL's detract from that connection a true fan of the game feels. I don't have a problem with FFL's, but they tend to make people think more in terms of logic than the emotional rollercoater that is life for an NFL fan. I can't think of the NFL in those terms.
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I like FF, but only play free leagues. But I have a friend who is a pay league, and I can't watch a Texans game with him. He's constantly changing channels and is obsessed with all the other games, or more specifically the individual players in all the other games. We don't watch Texans games anymore, because my ONLY focus is that game.

When I have played FF, I usually don't even look at my team until Tuesday morning, after the MNF game...and even then, sometimes I forget and don't check it out until Wednesday...or Thursday...
 
Double Barrel said:
I like FF, but only play free leagues. But I have a friend who is a pay league, and I can't watch a Texans game with him. He's constantly changing channels and is obsessed with all the other games, or more specifically the individual players in all the other games. We don't watch Texans games anymore, because my ONLY focus is that game.

When I have played FF, I usually don't even look at my team until Tuesday morning, after the MNF game...and even then, sometimes I forget and don't check it out until Wednesday...or Thursday...
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Sunday Ticket has a great feature for this called Player Tracker. I do not play fantasy football myself but I use that feature to tell me how certain players are doing around the league. Generally, our opponents and league leaders. I love it.
 
thunderkyss said:
I agree 1000% TChick.

If a guy can't play, he can't play. I believe our comments should stop right there. Some guys here (& I'm quite embarrassed by it to tell you the truth) talk about these players as if the player mugged their mothers or something. I think totally uncalled for. Some of the names thrown about in reference to Carr, TJ, Babin, Okoye, Buchanon...... totally uncalled for imo



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David Carr kicked my puppy and keyed my car.

:kitten:
 
I honestly can't believe rep points are a point of discussion......

.......and not whether Foster's bro is any good at toting the rock........

psssh, hey TexMexMomma, are YOU any good? Seems like Arian got his skills from somewhere!! I want all the Foster I can get!!
 
TimeKiller said:
I honestly can't believe rep points are a point of discussion......

.......and not whether Foster's bro is any good at toting the rock........

psssh, hey TexMexMomma, are YOU any good? Seems like Arian got his skills from somewhere!! I want all the Foster I can get!!
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LOL! Arian's brother was very good. He's older than Arian. But he went to school here in Abq and the same coaches who said Arian wasn't running back material also thought his brother was. Abdul is an exceptional athlete but was 6'2" and 195 in high school and played basketball and ran track. He could run, catch and throw the ball and could really hit. He should've played WR or QB and I believe could've been an NFL safety. He was a smart player and loved to hit. But he got hurt in high school and and his scholarship offers stopped. We found out later, his coaches were telling recruiters he didn't want to play football and only wanted to run track, which was not true. Abdul still holds our state record in the 110 High Hurdles in which he won two state champtionships in that event and one in the 300M hurdles. Anyway, he eventually attended Florida A&M on a track scholarship and now trains his brother and a few other Texans and does live in Houston.
 
TexMexMom said:
Please understand that I am not thin skinned. I spent 5 years on Tennessee message boards where I earned my PhD in Elephant Skin. I may disagree with posters vehemently, but I don't generally take it personally. I rather like a good, well thought out debate. More than anything, I don't want to change the way folks post on here just because I'm present. I realize my presence has an affect on the prime directive, but I'd love for it to be minimal.
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Any way we can get you to relocate to Houston? I live on Clear Lake (near NASA) & the apartment next door just became available. Love to have you folks as a neighbor! I can't eat your spicy food but we could sit on balcony eating ribs, sausage and brisket, talk football and watch sailboats and pelicans.

BTW, I do mock drafts with Beerlover & RMartin 65 (who is in Moscow now). If you have any tips on players from Tennessee, i would like to have them.
Steve
 
TexMexMom said:
LOL! Arian's brother was very good. He's older than Arian. But he went to school here in Abq and the same coaches who said Arian wasn't running back material also thought his brother was. Abdul is an exceptional athlete but was 6'2" and 195 in high school and played basketball and ran track. He could run, catch and throw the ball and could really hit. He should've played WR or QB and I believe could've been an NFL safety. He was a smart player and loved to hit. But he got hurt in high school and and his scholarship offers stopped. We found out later, his coaches were telling recruiters he didn't want to play football and only wanted to run track, which was not true. Abdul still holds our state record in the 110 High Hurdles in which he won two state champtionships in that event and one in the 300M hurdles. Anyway, he eventually attended Florida A&M on a track scholarship and now trains his brother and a few other Texans and does live in Houston.
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Amazing how much influence high school coaches have on players futures, huh? It's a shame too because a lot of them have their own agendas.
 
badboy said:
Any way we can get you to relocate to Houston? I live on Clear Lake (near NASA) & the apartment next door just became available. Love to have you folks as a neighbor! I can't eat your spicy food but we could sit on balcony eating ribs, sausage and brisket, talk football and watch sailboats and pelicans.

BTW, I do mock drafts with Beerlover & RMartin 65 (who is in Moscow now). If you have any tips on players from Tennessee, i would like to have them.
Steve
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I would love to move, but I'm pretty sure my husband wouldn't. Ribs, sausage and brisket with football talk while watching sailboats sounds awesome...as long as there's beer and wine available. Or Crown occassionally.
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As for Tennessee folks, yes. There's a kid playing for the Raiders, Denarius Moore, WR, who just might turn out to be pretty good. If Montario Hardesty (Browns) can remain healthy, he's a good hard-nosed RB option. The rest I know are mostly defensive players....Dan Williams (Denver), Jerod Mayo (Patriots). Oh, and Ramon Foster (no relation) who plays OL for the Steelers. All good guys who played at Tennessee.
 
TexMexMom said:
LOL! Arian's brother was very good. He's older than Arian. But he went to school here in Abq and the same coaches who said Arian wasn't running back material also thought his brother was. Abdul is an exceptional athlete but was 6'2" and 195 in high school and played basketball and ran track. He could run, catch and throw the ball and could really hit. He should've played WR or QB and I believe could've been an NFL safety. He was a smart player and loved to hit. But he got hurt in high school and and his scholarship offers stopped. We found out later, his coaches were telling recruiters he didn't want to play football and only wanted to run track, which was not true. Abdul still holds our state record in the 110 High Hurdles in which he won two state champtionships in that event and one in the 300M hurdles. Anyway, he eventually attended Florida A&M on a track scholarship and now trains his brother and a few other Texans and does live in Houston.
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Sounds like you have some awesome genes. Got any more kids on their way to college football programs?
 
badboy said:
Any way we can get you to relocate to Houston? I live on Clear Lake (near NASA) & the apartment next door just became available. Love to have you folks as a neighbor! I can't eat your spicy food but we could sit on balcony eating ribs, sausage and brisket, talk football and watch sailboats and pelicans.

BTW, I do mock drafts with Beerlover & RMartin 65 (who is in Moscow now). If you have any tips on players from Tennessee, i would like to have them.
Steve
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suckup lol (this is a joke people see earlier posts!!!)
 
jaayteetx said:
Amazing how much influence high school coaches have on players futures, huh? It's a shame too because a lot of them have their own agendas.
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My oldest son's HS coach almost cost him a scholarship with this kind of nonsense. For whatever reason(s), he was telling recruiters that my son wasn't interested in playing college ball (rumors abound, but I won't elaborate here). Fortunately, his size made quite a few schools interested and they contacted him in spite of the head coach's crapola.

Funny thing is that my son had to UNlearn all the techniques taught to him in HS, because they were fundamentally incorrect. Lucky for him, they red shirted his freshman year so he could take a year to learn the right techniques from coaches with NFL experience.

HS coaches do not always have the best interests of their players at heart. It's weird to me, but it is what it is, I guess.
 
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