Texansphan
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Nick Caserio - keeper or kerb?
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Hervoyel
BUENO!
Never
The Houston Texans history is the epitome of clueless owners since its inception.
I expect nothing different in 2023 until they prove otherwise.
Rich Schmidt
Myopicone
Yeah, season ticket sales called me to get me to come back and asked why I left. I said BOB, Easterby, ownership, product on field, meant could not give tickets away and our section had 50% or more of opposing team people making game day experience not so fun. Was getting stale as well. She says we can waive PSL's and with new coach and picks should get back in, I said prove it and I will attend a few games, but don't trust current ownership enough to go all in and get season tickets again. I think they under estimate just how bad this has been and now they need years of competent moves to win most of us back. I will be a fan, and root, just not with the pocket book until I see things are truly different. DR was a good move, like the free agency (Schultz, Woods, Ward, Singletary, Perryman, DT's) and OG trade, now show and execute a plan with the draft. Then we have to see if DR and his staff can coach. If stars align, could be a nice change even this year, if coaching stinks, could be same old.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
That is a FACT.
The thing that burns me so much about that first pick is how they said all the right things leading up to Bob McNair falling in love with David Carr. "Gonna build from the trenches", "Put this team together the right way", "Solid foundation" and so on. Then they went into the expansion draft with that plan to go for salary amount over quantity and started taking players that were actually good. I mean guys that had something in the tank and could play. That 2002 defense on any team with even a half-assed offense could have won you some games. We didn't know at the time that the Boselli pick was a problem and that he'd never play again so it looked like the idea of leading off with a veteran defense and building the offense around the OL and through the draft was a sound one. That stuff looked (to me at least) right out of the gate like McNair, Casserly, and Capers had a plan to beat the house. Cleveland got competitive too quick for NFL powers that be and so they made it harder on the Texans. They need not have bothered. The Texans front office did a perfect job of making it hard on themselves.
That 1.1 pick was the only one in that first draft I would have not hesitated to spend on defense. I know the defense didn't "need" Peppers right then and there but it was the only sensible pick. Just start Tony Banks for a year or two. He was better on day one of the Texans existence than Carr would ever be. But hey, they said all the right things going into their first season. They just didn't do some of them.
TxnsJuggernaut1
Veteran
Culley did an admirable job considering the cards he was dealt. The players liked him and even though there were not.a lot of wins the team improved as the season went along. The win against the Chargers was a sign the team was improving and headed in the right direction. It was a signature win for the team that season and to me it was enough that Culley should have kept his job for at least a second season. If anything I think he did better than Lovie Smith despite having close to the same records. Davis Mills also finished his season under coach Culley better than he did under Lovie Smith.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
The entire Lovie Smith "thing" was just really weird. Made no sense whatsoever.
The1ApplePie
Hall of Fame
Been a while, but I thought that was a result of the whole McCown debacle. Kind of erased that period from my memory.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Yeah, that was nuts too. It's like when the Colts brought Jeff Saturday in as interim out of nowhere (you could sort of see how that was just a bit of fun) but the Texans just started looking at McCown like he was some great option that nobody but them could see. God what a crazy time to be an NFL fan in Houston this has been.
The1ApplePie
Hall of Fame
Lovie got his revenge at the end of the season, good for him I guess.
Don't remember the details around McCown, beyond it being incredibly stupid.
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TxnsJuggernaut1
Veteran
I have fears that the same dumb mindedness that had them seriously considering hiring McCown will show up in this draft. One step forward and two or three steps back.
TxnsJuggernaut1
Veteran
What is a Kerb? Did you mean curb?
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
I think that left the building along with Easterby.
TxnsJuggernaut1
Veteran
Let's hope your right.
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DrumBeatsLouder
Noob
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TexansBull
Hall of Fame
How many of you still want the guy from San Fran over Caserio?
If he’s just doing what DeMeco says, what difference does it make?
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
So is that a yes or a no?
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Maybe.
Texian
Hall of Fame
49ers - Adam Peters
Chiefs - Mike Bongonzi
Broncos - Darren Mougey
Bonus, they all can speak plain English.
Texian
Hall of Fame
It was O'Brien who sold Bob McNair on Nick Caserio and it was Jack Easterby who got Cal to pull the trigger on Nick Caserio. Cal should have known better after just firing O'Brien.Your descriptions cracked me up!! Thanks for the laugh. I needed it today. That's awesome.
I don't hate Florio like a lot of folks (he's just entertainment to me), but it's clear he's got no memory of what really went down.
Bob McNair wanted Nick Caserio. He tried to hire him in January 2018 when Nick was at the top of a Korn Ferry list. NE declined the interview request.
Hiring Jack Easterby was just a means to an end for Cal. Jack was literally just a tool (in more ways than he realized at the time) to get what his father wanted.
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Texian
Hall of Fame
Peters has a better understanding of the WCO/ZBS and the difference would be how his scouting staff scouted players. Caserio retooled the scouting staff in the image of how Belichick wanted things done. Peters would be more copasetic. The Zen in the building would be more sacrosanct. He knows what an S2 is and how to use the NFL Trade Value Chart.
Porky
Hall of Fame
It was all about Brian Flores. That’s why Culley was fired. Lovie was a desperation move.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
I don’t care who makes the decisions. Give Hanna the credit for all I care. I just want them to make the right decisions that leads to multiple Super Bowls and a dynasty!
I was just answering the question asked
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
The Texans are still in the middle of a rebuild. We don't know if our draft picks from last year are all going to work out yet, let alone what the new rookies will do. And, for all practical purposes, the draft capital for the Watson trade has now been spent.
Now we wait. Again. September is a long ways away.
Hopefully DeMeco knows what he's doing. LOL
Now we wait. Again. September is a long ways away.
Hopefully DeMeco knows what he's doing. LOL
Texansballer74
The Marine
No he’s not doing what Meco is saying. They’re working together like they should
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
But you didn’t. You answered a question with a question that didn’t answer the question.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
TK's real name is Socrates. It's his method.
That's not the question I was asking.
The question I was responding to, "Do you still want the guy from San Francisco?"
Those guys are the same guys saying that Caserio is just doing what he's told.
So I asked, "What difference does it make (because those guys think) if he's just doing what DeMeco tells him?"
OptimisticTexan
2023 / Rebuilding Block 3 / Go Texans
Do I still want the guy from SF? No…..never wanted him in the first place.
Texans have Caserio….and in all honesty, he was probably the only available GM who would’ve been willing to use his first shot at being an NFL GM on this pile of deep, deep ducked up shite known as the Texans. This was a real calculated risk for failure at 2-3 years max.
Caserio has stepped in and got this thing slowly turned around. Some just sit around and want to armchair GM and critique every move as if it was their balls on the chopping block. As a fan, I may have done some things different, but all in all, Caserio has done the job while digging this team out of one the ugliest professional sports shite holes since the New York Knicks.
Finally, there’s a HC in Ryans that seems to work in step with Caserio so why in the hail would I want to change that now? This is a first for the Texans, and maybe the first time I get the feeling that the McNair’s are willing to let this be the Caserio/Ryans show b/c they finally got the GM/HC tandem right.
Texans have Caserio….and in all honesty, he was probably the only available GM who would’ve been willing to use his first shot at being an NFL GM on this pile of deep, deep ducked up shite known as the Texans. This was a real calculated risk for failure at 2-3 years max.
Caserio has stepped in and got this thing slowly turned around. Some just sit around and want to armchair GM and critique every move as if it was their balls on the chopping block. As a fan, I may have done some things different, but all in all, Caserio has done the job while digging this team out of one the ugliest professional sports shite holes since the New York Knicks.
Finally, there’s a HC in Ryans that seems to work in step with Caserio so why in the hail would I want to change that now? This is a first for the Texans, and maybe the first time I get the feeling that the McNair’s are willing to let this be the Caserio/Ryans show b/c they finally got the GM/HC tandem right.
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Porky
Hall of Fame
REPORT: The Worst General Manager In The Entire NFL Has Been Named, According To Analyst
An NFL analyst dropped his general manager rankings and put Houston Texans GM Nick Caserio as the worst in the NFL
www.totalprosports.com
Patrick Daugherty of NBC Sports recently dropped his general manager rankings. At the top of his list was Howie Roseman and what he has done with the Philadelphia Eagles.
At the bottom of the list is Nick Caserio of the Texans, who have been of the worst teams in the league even when they had Deshaun Watson at the top of his game for his final season with the team before he got traded to Cleveland.
From NBC Sports Edge:
Toro Bravo
Rookie
Here is another recent article regarding the 2022 draft class that makes Caserio look pretty bad.REPORT: The Worst General Manager In The Entire NFL Has Been Named, According To Analyst
An NFL analyst dropped his general manager rankings and put Houston Texans GM Nick Caserio as the worst in the NFL
Patrick Daugherty of NBC Sports recently dropped his general manager rankings. At the top of his list was Howie Roseman and what he has done with the Philadelphia Eagles.
At the bottom of the list is Nick Caserio of the Texans, who have been of the worst teams in the league even when they had Deshaun Watson at the top of his game for his final season with the team before he got traded to Cleveland.
From NBC Sports Edge:
Grading Caserio's 2022 Draft Class (It Isn't Pretty) - Battle Red Blog
Considering we have already spent most of the draft capital we received from the Watson trade and the results have not yet been seen, I'm pretty close to wanting to send Nick packing.
I also think we gave up too much in this years draft when great players were still available.
Don't put much credence in what some fan that won't give his name and has a grand total of 2 posts since 2017 makes
powda
Always on the cusp of stupid or a dream.
You want to get rid of Nick but admit the results are early and not yet seen? Seems contrarian.
Fire Caserio. I’m with you. Not arguing that.
But his first draft with Watson picks has only played 1season, less really. The 2nd class are in their 1st OTAs. What exactly do you think you “should have seen.”?
I will say this, Caserio threw all of his chips on the table. Hopefully it works out. A GM on the hot seat.