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Commanders call ESPN report “categorically untrue”
Posted by Mike Florio on October 13, 2022, 11:25 AM EDT


ESPN dropped a bombshell on Thursday morning, with an item about Commanders owner Daniel Snyder that contains plenty of intriguing (and, if true, damaging) nuggets.

The Commanders have issued a statement regarding the article. To little surprise, it strongly takes issue with the accuracy of the report.


“It’s hard to imagine a piece that is more categorically untrue, and is clearly part of a well-funded, two-year misinformation campaign to coerce the sale of the team, which will continue to be unsuccessful,” the team said, via Ben Standig of TheAthletic.com.

It’s one thing to disagree with the quality of the reporting. It’s quite another to suggest that the reporters have become co-opted by an extensive effort to force Snyder to sell.

Who’s funding the effort? Who’s trying to force Snyder out? If the Commanders are going to generally accuse ESPN as being part of that effort, why not identify who’s behind it?

The response from the team suggests that Snyder will continue to aggressively fight on his own behalf, as he remains determined to retain ownership of the franchise. Even if none of his partners and few of his team’s fans want that to happen.
 
From Sept 15:

CloakNNNdagger said:
Although the team has reported that the fracture involved the joint, what I have found out is that the joint surface was not involved. He underwent plate repair of the fractured 1st metacarpal bone. Theoretically, healing can occur by 6 weeks, but full return of grip strength with strong healing would not be completed before ~8 weeks. Four weeks is still ridiculous and 8 weeks is wisest for a franchise QB
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The Cowboys are not announcing it, but Prescott will not be starting week 6. As expected, he does not have return of full grip strength. Jones will probably consider him for week 7, depending on his grip strength.
 
TexansBull said:
I don’t think Dak will be able to grip the ball until Cooper Rush costs them a game.
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Sorry, that may be the way it works out, but speaking realistically surgically with his exact injury, the earliest he may be able to "adequately" grip the ball is at 7 weeks. Reinjury before 7-8 week is increased risk..............and full grip strength may not return until a month later.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Sorry, that may be the way it works out, but speaking realistically surgically with his exact injury, the earliest he may be able to "adequately" grip the ball is at 7 weeks. Reinjury before 7-8 week is increased risk..............and full grip strength may not return until a month later.
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My apologies.

My comment had nothing to do with qualified medical opinion or reality.
 
From yesterday's announcement that a new Watson lawsuit has been filed by another attorney.......with more suits reported to follow [NFL Section Sexual Assault Thread]:

Double Barrel said:
I love the game of football, but the NFL itself needs to be exposed for the fake concern it displays towards serious subjects in order to gloss itself for the sake of massive profits.

How anyone could possibly believe the fake sincerity of the league is mind boggling.

The entire scaling system of superstar treatment is disgusting. If Watson wasn't so talented, he'd be banned from ever playing again. That he's got so much potential reveals their unscrupulous methodology for protecting their assets.

Watson is relevant to them as it pertains to increasing profit. That is the ONLY thing this league and its owners ultimately care about. The rest is just dog and pony show BS.
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Daniel Snyder’s lawyers claim he’s no longer under NFL restriction
Posted by Mike Florio on October 14, 2022, 2:07 PM EDT
 
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Former NFL cornerback Antonio Dennard shot and killed at 32
Posted by Charean Williams on October 17, 2022, 4:32 PM EDT

Former NFL cornerback Antonio Dennard was shot and killed outside a bar near Reading, Pennsylvania, early Sunday morning, according to WFMZ.

He was pronounced dead at the hospital at 3:15 a.m.

Authorities ruled his death a homicide.

It is unknown whether police have identified a suspect or suspects, and they also have not announced a possible motive for the shooting.
 
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NBA vs. NFL on Christmas Day spreads to ABC vs. the other three-letter networks
Posted by Mike Florio on October 17, 2022, 4:49 PM EDT

For the first time ever, the NBA’s prior TV stranglehold on Christmas Day will be threatened by a trio of standalone, nationally-televised, three-letter network NFL games. After months of surely muttering four-letter words regarding the development, the NBA will get a three-network of its own involved in the competition for eyeballs.

Sports Business Journal reports that all five Christmas NBA games will be televised both by ESPN and ABC. That necessarily will goose the total audience for the five games, at a time when the NFL will proceed with Packers-Dolphins on Fox at 1:00 p.m. ET, Broncos-Rams at 4:30 p.m. ET on CBS, and Buccaneers-Cardinals at 8:20 p.m. ET on NBC.

Although the bulk of the Week 16 NFL slate will be played on Saturday, December 24, it’s still a three-window Sunday for the NFL, with massive audiences undoubtedly tuning in for the games — and trouncing the numbers generated by the NBA.

Indeed, a Lions-Steelers preseason game on a Sunday afternoon in August on CBS attracted a larger audience than each of the five Christmas NBA games in 2021.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
JJ Watt seems to be moving quite slowly. He garnered only 2 tackles statistics-wise.
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JJ should've stuck to his guns and left the game before his ability to perform deteriorated to what we're seeing today. The best decision he could've made.....leave the game at the height of popularity and go into show business.
 
Looks like Broncos Broncos LB Aaron Patrick collided with somone on the sideline............and quite possibly suffered an ACL. Will probably have MRI today for definitive injury identification.
 
Russell Wilson's leg injury was actually a hamstring. He managed to play through the end of the game which could have extended the injury. The injury was initially sustained in the 4th Q of the overtime game.
 
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Makes you wonder what some teams are thinking in FA and draft sometimes. Give up a boat load of money then ask them to play in a scheme that doesn’t play to their strengths?


Jackson allowed two catches on three targets for 86 yards and a touchdown in the first half, per Pro Football Focus.
The Chargers signed Jackson to a five-year, $82.5 million contract, with $40 million guaranteed. But the corner has struggled mightily acclimating to the zone coverage Staley's club plays after working in the man-to-man system in New England.
The question moving forward is whether Staley will trust Jackson to overcome the issues or saddle his highly paid corner to the bench.
 
The NFL is being called out re. the non release of the investigation into Snyder and the release of names of the accusers (which were agreed to be kept secret).

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Lisa Banks, Debra Katz threaten legal action against NFL
Posted by Mike Florio on October 18, 2022, 1:28 PM EDT


The NFL seems to be worried about being sued by Commanders owner Daniel Snyder, if the league tries to force him out. The NFL apparently should also be worried about being sued by former Commanders employees.

Attorneys Lisa Banks and Debra Katz have sent a letter to Commissioner Roger Goodell threatening suit against the league over the potential disclosure of the names of clients who cooperated with lawyer Beth Wilkinson’s investigation to Snyder.

The letter refers to the recent ESPN article, which contends among many other things that “Snyder used Beth Wilkinson’s investigation as a ‘tip sheet’ to compile his ‘enemies list’ and to create his 100-slide presentation.”

“If true, this was in clear violation of a very specific promise the NFL made to our clients, through Ms. Wilkinson and her team, that witness names would be kept confidential and not shared with Mr. Snyder or the Washington Commanders,” the lawyers wrote to Goodell. “It was based solely on this assurance that many of our clients agreed to participate in the investigation, as they feared retaliation if their names were disclosed.

“This fear was apparently well-founded. After participating in the investigation, and after the NFL revealed witness names, several of our clients were harassed by private investigators, some were publicly disparaged and/or removed from team alumni groups, and at least one who was still working for the team was terminated. We now know why. If true, the ‘tip sheet’ allegation is not only morally reprehensible, but it also provides the basis for us to take legal action against the NFL, which we will do given the serious harm caused to our clients by their reliance on the NFL’s promises.”

The letter also points out the hypocrisy inherent to the league’s stubborn refusal to release any of Beth Wilkinson’s report due to the claim that confidentiality was promised to certain witnesses and the league’s alleged failure to keep specific names away from Snyder.

“In the interest of full disclosure, you can and should release the report prepared by Beth Wilkinson, just as you have committed to do with the Mary Jo White investigation, and redact or anonymize witness names however necessary. Otherwise, you must provide an honest explanation for your refusal to do so,” the layers wrote.

The letter concluded with a renewed request to meet with Goodell. And here’s the hammer: “If you ignore our request, as you have with our past requests to talk to you directly, we will assume that the reporting by [ESPN] is true and we will move forward with formal legal action on behalf of our clients.”

The league consistently has claimed that the promises of anonymity require all facts from the Wilkinson report to be kept secret. That flimsy argument becomes even flimsier if the anonymity was completely disregarded when it comes to the very man from whom the former employees wanted to be protected.
 
DeMaurice Smith strongly hints at possible collusion claim over fully-guaranteed contracts
Posted by Mike Florio on October 18, 2022, 12:54 PM EDT


The Collective Bargaining Agreement does not mandate nor prohibit fully-guaranteed contracts. Whether and to what extent any, some, or all teams give fully-guaranteed contracts to players is up to each franchise.
In theory.

In practice, collusion can occur. Teams can agree among themselves to not utilize fully-guaranteed contracts. That becomes a potential violation of the CBA.

During a Tuesday interview with #PFTPM, NFL Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith strongly hinted that the union will be pursuing a collusion claim against the league over the issue of fully-guaranteed contracts.

The topic came up because Smith said that the union refers to ownership meetings as “collusion meetings.” It may seem like a joke, but it’s not. If the league, through the Management Council, urges teams to engage in certain contractual practices, that arguably becomes collusion. And these meetings are believed to include plenty of messages regarding the way the league prefers to have business done.

In March, the Browns broke ranks to give quarterback Deshaun Watson a fully-guaranteed, five-year deal. That prompted Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti to call the deal “groundbreaking,” and to say that “it’ll make negotiations harder with others.”

That’s not a direct admission of collusion, but it’s the kind of thing that can become evidence of collusion. And since the Watson deal, other teams have refused and resisted to fully-guarantee quarterback contracts. Bisciotti’s Ravens have pushed back stronger than others, during the Lamar Jackson negotiations.

If/when the NFLPA files a collusion claim, things can get interesting. One of the potential remedies under the CBA is the termination of it. While the chances of that happening is slim, it shows that there are very serious potential consequences for collusion.

As the owners continue to conduct their latest round of collusion meetings today in New York, they should keep that in mind.
 
Out of the 559 fully guaranteed NFL contracts, only 5 were veteran contracts for more than 1 year:

•Dan Marino, MIA, 1986 (5)

•Adam Vinatieri, NE, 2002 (3)

•Kirk Cousins, MIN, 2018 (3)

•Tom Brady, TB, 2020 (2)

•Deshaun Watson, CLE, 2020 (5)
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The NFL is being called out re. the non release of the investigation into Snyder and the release of names of the accusers (which were agreed to be kept secret).

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Lisa Banks, Debra Katz threaten legal action against NFL
Posted by Mike Florio on October 18, 2022, 1:28 PM EDT


The NFL seems to be worried about being sued by Commanders owner Daniel Snyder, if the league tries to force him out. The NFL apparently should also be worried about being sued by former Commanders employees.

Attorneys Lisa Banks and Debra Katz have sent a letter to Commissioner Roger Goodell threatening suit against the league over the potential disclosure of the names of clients who cooperated with lawyer Beth Wilkinson’s investigation to Snyder.

The letter refers to the recent ESPN article, which contends among many other things that “Snyder used Beth Wilkinson’s investigation as a ‘tip sheet’ to compile his ‘enemies list’ and to create his 100-slide presentation.”

“If true, this was in clear violation of a very specific promise the NFL made to our clients, through Ms. Wilkinson and her team, that witness names would be kept confidential and not shared with Mr. Snyder or the Washington Commanders,” the lawyers wrote to Goodell. “It was based solely on this assurance that many of our clients agreed to participate in the investigation, as they feared retaliation if their names were disclosed.

“This fear was apparently well-founded. After participating in the investigation, and after the NFL revealed witness names, several of our clients were harassed by private investigators, some were publicly disparaged and/or removed from team alumni groups, and at least one who was still working for the team was terminated. We now know why. If true, the ‘tip sheet’ allegation is not only morally reprehensible, but it also provides the basis for us to take legal action against the NFL, which we will do given the serious harm caused to our clients by their reliance on the NFL’s promises.”

The letter also points out the hypocrisy inherent to the league’s stubborn refusal to release any of Beth Wilkinson’s report due to the claim that confidentiality was promised to certain witnesses and the league’s alleged failure to keep specific names away from Snyder.

“In the interest of full disclosure, you can and should release the report prepared by Beth Wilkinson, just as you have committed to do with the Mary Jo White investigation, and redact or anonymize witness names however necessary. Otherwise, you must provide an honest explanation for your refusal to do so,” the layers wrote.

The letter concluded with a renewed request to meet with Goodell. And here’s the hammer: “If you ignore our request, as you have with our past requests to talk to you directly, we will assume that the reporting by [ESPN] is true and we will move forward with formal legal action on behalf of our clients.”

The league consistently has claimed that the promises of anonymity require all facts from the Wilkinson report to be kept secret. That flimsy argument becomes even flimsier if the anonymity was completely disregarded when it comes to the very man from whom the former employees wanted to be protected.
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This is what you get when you trust a liar like God'ell.

Will this be enough to get him fired? Doubtful
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
DeMaurice Smith strongly hints at possible collusion claim over fully-guaranteed contracts
Posted by Mike Florio on October 18, 2022, 12:54 PM EDT


The Collective Bargaining Agreement does not mandate nor prohibit fully-guaranteed contracts. Whether and to what extent any, some, or all teams give fully-guaranteed contracts to players is up to each franchise.
In theory.

In practice, collusion can occur. Teams can agree among themselves to not utilize fully-guaranteed contracts. That becomes a potential violation of the CBA.

During a Tuesday interview with #PFTPM, NFL Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith strongly hinted that the union will be pursuing a collusion claim against the league over the issue of fully-guaranteed contracts.

The topic came up because Smith said that the union refers to ownership meetings as “collusion meetings.” It may seem like a joke, but it’s not. If the league, through the Management Council, urges teams to engage in certain contractual practices, that arguably becomes collusion. And these meetings are believed to include plenty of messages regarding the way the league prefers to have business done.

In March, the Browns broke ranks to give quarterback Deshaun Watson a fully-guaranteed, five-year deal. That prompted Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti to call the deal “groundbreaking,” and to say that “it’ll make negotiations harder with others.”

That’s not a direct admission of collusion, but it’s the kind of thing that can become evidence of collusion. And since the Watson deal, other teams have refused and resisted to fully-guarantee quarterback contracts. Bisciotti’s Ravens have pushed back stronger than others, during the Lamar Jackson negotiations.

If/when the NFLPA files a collusion claim, things can get interesting. One of the potential remedies under the CBA is the termination of it. While the chances of that happening is slim, it shows that there are very serious potential consequences for collusion.

As the owners continue to conduct their latest round of collusion meetings today in New York, they should keep that in mind.
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It's gonna be hard to prove this unless there's something written somewhere.

Is it collusion if owners look out for what's best for the league and their finances. It's a gentlemans agreement among billionaires. Haslem went against the gentlemens agreement and will pay the price at a later date. Why would owners guarantee contracts when they dont have too.
 
Oh, Danny boy..........stop worrying! Jimmy has your back............with a knife!

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Daniel Snyder fires back at Jim Irsay
Posted by Mike Florio on October 18, 2022, 5:44 PM EDT


Well, this is getting good.

Barely an hour after Colts owner Jim Irsay told reporters that the time possibly has come to remove Daniel Snyder as owner of

“It is highly inappropriate, but not surprising, that Mr. Irsay opted to make statements publicly based on falsehoods in the media,” a Commanders spokesperson said, via Nicki Jhabvala of the Washington Post. “It is unfortunate that Mr. Irsay decided to go public with his statement today, while an investigation is in process, and the team has had no opportunity to formally respond to allegations. The Commanders have made remarkable progress over the past two years. We are confident that, when he has an opportunity to see the actual evidence in this case, Mr. Irsay will conclude that there is no reason for the Snyders to consider selling the franchise. And they won’t.”

The last three words are the most important: “And they won’t.”

It’s not quite as strong as “all caps never,” which Snyder once said regarding the prospect of changing the team’s former name.

But it underscores the reality that a fight is likely, if not definite.

The statement also glosses over the fact that the NFL imposed significant punishment on the Commanders in July 2021, based on facts from Beth Wilkinson’s investigation that the league swept and kept under the rug. As 106.7 The Fan in D.C. reported and as PFT confirmed, Wilkinson would have recommended in writing (if asked for a written recommendation) that Snyder should be required to sell the team.

That’s where this could be headed. A formal vote to force him out and then, possibly, a legal fight over implementing it.

Finally, why do the Commanders continue to think that two years of not violating the rights of employees or otherwise behaving badly should excuse everything that happened over the decade or so before it? They cling to this clumsy P.R. strategy that consists of attacking anyone who would dare to mention past misconduct without also praising the changes the team has made at a time when anything else would have guaranteed a forced sale of the team.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Oh, Danny boy..........stop worrying! Jimmy has your back............with a knife!

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Daniel Snyder fires back at Jim Irsay
Posted by Mike Florio on October 18, 2022, 5:44 PM EDT


Well, this is getting good.

Barely an hour after Colts owner Jim Irsay told reporters that the time possibly has come to remove Daniel Snyder as owner of

“It is highly inappropriate, but not surprising, that Mr. Irsay opted to make statements publicly based on falsehoods in the media,” a Commanders spokesperson said, via Nicki Jhabvala of the Washington Post. “It is unfortunate that Mr. Irsay decided to go public with his statement today, while an investigation is in process, and the team has had no opportunity to formally respond to allegations. The Commanders have made remarkable progress over the past two years. We are confident that, when he has an opportunity to see the actual evidence in this case, Mr. Irsay will conclude that there is no reason for the Snyders to consider selling the franchise. And they won’t.”

The last three words are the most important: “And they won’t.”

It’s not quite as strong as “all caps never,” which Snyder once said regarding the prospect of changing the team’s former name.

But it underscores the reality that a fight is likely, if not definite.

The statement also glosses over the fact that the NFL imposed significant punishment on the Commanders in July 2021, based on facts from Beth Wilkinson’s investigation that the league swept and kept under the rug. As 106.7 The Fan in D.C. reported and as PFT confirmed, Wilkinson would have recommended in writing (if asked for a written recommendation) that Snyder should be required to sell the team.

That’s where this could be headed. A formal vote to force him out and then, possibly, a legal fight over implementing it.

Finally, why do the Commanders continue to think that two years of not violating the rights of employees or otherwise behaving badly should excuse everything that happened over the decade or so before it? They cling to this clumsy P.R. strategy that consists of attacking anyone who would dare to mention past misconduct without also praising the changes the team has made at a time when anything else would have guaranteed a forced sale of the team.
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Looks like Snyder is willing to get in the mud with his fellow owners.
 
TheRealJoker said:
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Sean McVay On Cam Akers' Status With Team: 'We're Working Through Some Things Right Now'

On Friday, Rams head coach Sean McVay announced that RB Cam Akers is out for Week 6's game against the Panthers due to personal reasons. McVay declined to say whether he expects Akers to remain
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I was a huge proponent of Cam Akers his final year at Fla St. He never fit well with Rams .... which surprised me. There was an on-going disagreement with his role at LA. Then he suffered an Achillies. He came back in a very short 5 months. Healthy, but resumed the disagreement with his role. He was drafted mid 2nd round, and if truly healthy at 23 - and needing a change of scenery, I would give up a 6th in a heartbeat .... we've got 4 of them ! He should, at least, be the best choice for first backup .... remember Carlos Hyde .... and he was almost 30 !
 
The NFL are weazels.
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Jeff Pash preempted ownership discussion of Daniel Snyder
Posted by Mike Florio on October 18, 2022, 9:05 PM EDT


Publicly, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell told reporters that he wants the league’s owners to reserve judgment on Commanders owner Daniel Snyder until the pending Mary Jo White investigation is done. Privately, that message was sent to the owners by NFL general counsel Jeff Pash.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, Pash slammed the door on any Snyder discussion during the owners-only session at Tuesday’s league meeting. It was, in the assessment of the source, the direct result of Colts owner Jim Irsay’s public comments regarding Snyder from this afternoon.

Pash urged the owners to exercise patience and restraint, explaining that they’d want the same treatment if they were facing a similar situation.

It’s a smart approach. With Snyder surely considering all legal options, anything said in that session would become discoverable evidence in court — even if they asked Tanya Snyder to exit the session so that the matter could be discussed without her there to hear whatever was said. If/when litigation happens, the owners would be grilled about who said what, to whom.

The source also predicted that, if Irsay hadn’t said what he said to reporters, he definitely would have made those comments in the room, sparking a Snyder-related conversation. The source believes that Irsay’s comments directly led to Pash’s effort to short-circuit any discussion of Snyder among the owners.

Last year, Pash became directly implicated in the aftermath of Beth Wilkinson’s investigation regarding Snyder, after someone leaked emails exchanged by Pash and former Commanders president Bruce Allen.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Broncos LB Aaron Patrick did in fact suffer a torn ACL when he tried to avoid colliding with media personnel on the sideline...................ACL #31.
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Surprised this doesn't happen more often.

Particularly in college where some walls are really close to the endzone and they usually have a John Deere parked there in case they have to cart somebody off.
 
It may take some time, but before it's all over, the NFL will eat its own..............from the inside out.

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Jerry Jones makes another run at blocking a Roger Goodell contract
Posted by Mike Florio on October 18, 2022, 10:08 PM EDT


The ESPN headline focuses on a profane message from Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to Patriots owner Robert Kraft. The far more important point is that, five years after Jones tried to keep Commissioner Roger Goodell from getting a new contract, Jones is at it again.

PFT has confirmed that the owners, by a vote of 31-1, concluded on Tuesday that the league’s compensation committee is authorized to negotiate a new deal with Goodell. Jones was the lone dissenter.

And Jones, via Seth Wickersham and Don Van Natta, Jr. of ESPN.com, told Kraft, the chair of the compensation committee,”Don’t **** with me.”

“Excuse me?” Kraft said.

“Don’t mess with me,” Jones said, modifying his language.

In 2017, Jones tried to block Goodell from getting a new deal. Jerry’s allies at the time included Washington owner Daniel Snyder and, of all people, Papa John.

As one source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT, Jones’s frustration likely comes from the fact that he’s not on the compensation committee, and due to the fact that no other owner joined him in opposing the measure. Per the source, Kraft wasn’t the only subject of Jones’s ire. Both Giants owner John Mara and Browns owner Jimmy Haslam caught some flak, too.

Last time around, it became a major fight, culminating in Jones threatening litigation and Jones ultimately paying for the legal fees incurred by the league in dealing with his threats. This time, it’s far less likely that Jones will die for a second time on the same hill.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
It may take some time, but before it's all over, the NFL will eat its own..............from the inside out.

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Jerry Jones makes another run at blocking a Roger Goodell contract
Posted by Mike Florio on October 18, 2022, 10:08 PM EDT


The ESPN headline focuses on a profane message from Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to Patriots owner Robert Kraft. The far more important point is that, five years after Jones tried to keep Commissioner Roger Goodell from getting a new contract, Jones is at it again.

PFT has confirmed that the owners, by a vote of 31-1, concluded on Tuesday that the league’s compensation committee is authorized to negotiate a new deal with Goodell. Jones was the lone dissenter.

And Jones, via Seth Wickersham and Don Van Natta, Jr. of ESPN.com, told Kraft, the chair of the compensation committee,”Don’t **** with me.”

“Excuse me?” Kraft said.

“Don’t mess with me,” Jones said, modifying his language.

In 2017, Jones tried to block Goodell from getting a new deal. Jerry’s allies at the time included Washington owner Daniel Snyder and, of all people, Papa John.

As one source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT, Jones’s frustration likely comes from the fact that he’s not on the compensation committee, and due to the fact that no other owner joined him in opposing the measure. Per the source, Kraft wasn’t the only subject of Jones’s ire. Both Giants owner John Mara and Browns owner Jimmy Haslam caught some flak, too.

Last time around, it became a major fight, culminating in Jones threatening litigation and Jones ultimately paying for the legal fees incurred by the league in dealing with his threats. This time, it’s far less likely that Jones will die for a second time on the same hill.
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Jerrah know God'ells bad for the game.
 

Gronk wanting to comment on a celebration but disallowed by BB
made me laugh

"We got yelled at - we're not supposed to talk about celebrations
That's what we got told
But...i kinda wanna talk about it
But i kinda don't because i'll get in trouble
So, i don't know what to do..."
 
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