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Moulds Trade Official
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texansfan88
Rookie
if victor riley could pass our physical, eric moulds can.
texanfan2002114
Veteran
texansfan88 said:
thats pretty funny!!
mexican_texan
Furry Tractors
1st letter of first name and first two or three letters of last name.TexanFan881 said:
Ex.
T-Mac
J-Ho
D-Nab
swtbound07
Jackass of Day!
keyfro said:
and 70 percent lazy?
for those of you who don't have espn insider (i don't either) here is the article over eric moulds no longer being a speed burner
Insider
Joyner
By KC Joyner
ESPN Insider
Archive
The only player to have generated significant interest around the league despite not being a free agent is Eric Moulds. Moulds has a $10.85 million cap number for the 2006 season, and the Bills have given him permission to seek a trade. As many as seven teams reportedly are interested in him.
One of the reasons Moulds wants to be traded is his unhappiness with the way he was used during the 2005 season. Moulds did catch 81 passes last year, ranking him 15th in the league in that category. However, he gained only 816 yards, 33rd in the league, and the 10.1 yards per reception ranked him 74th in the AFC. These numbers are down from his 2004 totals of 88 catches, 1,043 yards and 11.9 yards per reception.
The reduction in production would seem to suggest that Moulds has a legitimate complaint. I decided to conduct a metric analysis to see how his 2005 numbers compared with those of previous seasons.
First, here are his receiving metrics from the 2005 season:
Eric Moulds- 2005
Depth Attempts Comp Yards TD INT Pen Yds/Att
Short 91 68 545 2 1 9 6.1
Medium 20 10 167 0 1 4 8.6
Deep 17 3 104 2 1 20 7.3
Total 128 81 816 4 3 33 6.6
Now take a look at Moulds' 2004 metrics:
Eric Moulds- 2004
Depth Att Comp Yds TD INT Pen Yds/Att
Short 100 68 644 1 1 5 6.5
Medium 24 14 208 2 2 -5 8.5
Deep 24 6 191 2 3 28 9.1
Total 148 88 1043 5 6 28 7.2
These numbers are largely identical, particularly if we keep in mind that Moulds played in only 15 games in 2005 because of his suspension for violating team policy.
It might look as though the Bills were using Moulds more as a short pass receiver in 2005, but his role was almost identical in 2004. Last season, Moulds averaged 6.1 short pass attempts per game, compared with 6.3 in 2004. Moulds actually helped himself in this category by improving his short pass completion percentage by nearly 7percent from 2004 to 2005.
Moulds wants people to believe his vertical pass attempts were reduced last year, and he is technically correct. It was reduced from 48 medium/deep pass attempts in 2004 to 37 in 2005, but you have to factor in the difference in games. Once you factor that in, it only amounts to a .5 difference in attempts per game.
The reason Moulds doesn't catch many deep passes is he simply doesn't get open deep. One of the things I measure on every pass play is the degree to which the receiver was open. I track the number of steps a receiver was open by and whether the defender had what I term good coverage or tight coverage.
Calculating the number of steps is fairly basic. I simply look for the separation between the receiver and defender when the pass is thrown. Determining the quality of the coverage is more subjective. When a defender has good coverage, it will take a perfect pass by the quarterback to beat him. When a defender has tight coverage, even a perfect pass likely will not beat him.
During the 2004 season, Moulds ranked 85th out of 87 qualifying receivers in tight-good coverage percentage on deep passes. Moulds had tight or good coverage against him on 62.5 percent of his deep pass attempts that season, meaning it was highly unlikely the pass was going to be completed because he simply wasn't open.
His deep pass coverage metrics weren't much better in 2005. Moulds had tight or good coverage against him on nine of his 17 deep pass attempts, which equates to 53 percent of his deep passes.
Moulds still can be a significant player for the right team, provided he can accept the role his current skill set dictates he should fill. The Bills certainly still could use him as a possession receiver. The Texans are rumored to be very interested in Moulds, and they certainly could use a strong No. 2 receiver to complement Andre Johnson. The Eagles, Chiefs, 49ers, Broncos and Seahawks also certainly could use a reliable possession receiver.
The ball is in Moulds' court. If he markets himself as a possession receiver, he will have plenty of options. If he insists on being paid as a vertical threat, most teams are going to lose interest.
Insider
Joyner
By KC Joyner
ESPN Insider
Archive
The only player to have generated significant interest around the league despite not being a free agent is Eric Moulds. Moulds has a $10.85 million cap number for the 2006 season, and the Bills have given him permission to seek a trade. As many as seven teams reportedly are interested in him.
One of the reasons Moulds wants to be traded is his unhappiness with the way he was used during the 2005 season. Moulds did catch 81 passes last year, ranking him 15th in the league in that category. However, he gained only 816 yards, 33rd in the league, and the 10.1 yards per reception ranked him 74th in the AFC. These numbers are down from his 2004 totals of 88 catches, 1,043 yards and 11.9 yards per reception.
The reduction in production would seem to suggest that Moulds has a legitimate complaint. I decided to conduct a metric analysis to see how his 2005 numbers compared with those of previous seasons.
First, here are his receiving metrics from the 2005 season:
Eric Moulds- 2005
Depth Attempts Comp Yards TD INT Pen Yds/Att
Short 91 68 545 2 1 9 6.1
Medium 20 10 167 0 1 4 8.6
Deep 17 3 104 2 1 20 7.3
Total 128 81 816 4 3 33 6.6
Now take a look at Moulds' 2004 metrics:
Eric Moulds- 2004
Depth Att Comp Yds TD INT Pen Yds/Att
Short 100 68 644 1 1 5 6.5
Medium 24 14 208 2 2 -5 8.5
Deep 24 6 191 2 3 28 9.1
Total 148 88 1043 5 6 28 7.2
These numbers are largely identical, particularly if we keep in mind that Moulds played in only 15 games in 2005 because of his suspension for violating team policy.
It might look as though the Bills were using Moulds more as a short pass receiver in 2005, but his role was almost identical in 2004. Last season, Moulds averaged 6.1 short pass attempts per game, compared with 6.3 in 2004. Moulds actually helped himself in this category by improving his short pass completion percentage by nearly 7percent from 2004 to 2005.
Moulds wants people to believe his vertical pass attempts were reduced last year, and he is technically correct. It was reduced from 48 medium/deep pass attempts in 2004 to 37 in 2005, but you have to factor in the difference in games. Once you factor that in, it only amounts to a .5 difference in attempts per game.
The reason Moulds doesn't catch many deep passes is he simply doesn't get open deep. One of the things I measure on every pass play is the degree to which the receiver was open. I track the number of steps a receiver was open by and whether the defender had what I term good coverage or tight coverage.
Calculating the number of steps is fairly basic. I simply look for the separation between the receiver and defender when the pass is thrown. Determining the quality of the coverage is more subjective. When a defender has good coverage, it will take a perfect pass by the quarterback to beat him. When a defender has tight coverage, even a perfect pass likely will not beat him.
During the 2004 season, Moulds ranked 85th out of 87 qualifying receivers in tight-good coverage percentage on deep passes. Moulds had tight or good coverage against him on 62.5 percent of his deep pass attempts that season, meaning it was highly unlikely the pass was going to be completed because he simply wasn't open.
His deep pass coverage metrics weren't much better in 2005. Moulds had tight or good coverage against him on nine of his 17 deep pass attempts, which equates to 53 percent of his deep passes.
Moulds still can be a significant player for the right team, provided he can accept the role his current skill set dictates he should fill. The Bills certainly still could use him as a possession receiver. The Texans are rumored to be very interested in Moulds, and they certainly could use a strong No. 2 receiver to complement Andre Johnson. The Eagles, Chiefs, 49ers, Broncos and Seahawks also certainly could use a reliable possession receiver.
The ball is in Moulds' court. If he markets himself as a possession receiver, he will have plenty of options. If he insists on being paid as a vertical threat, most teams are going to lose interest.
TexanFan881
All Pro
mexican_texan said:
Has he had this for awhile or did we just make it up for him
AJExplosion80
Practice Squad
172 people viewing this thread alone that shows the interest in getting Moulds.
mexican_texan
Furry Tractors
It applies to anyone. But I finally understand that the Bills don't have an Emu.TexanFan881 said:Has he had this for awhile or did we just make it up for him
DoCRoN
Waterboy
TexanFan881 said:
Yes - http://www.sportsradio610.com/
There's a link on their main page to listen live online...
TexanFan881
All Pro
DoCRoN said:
Thanks!
GhostRaider2006
Waterboy
Anyone watching the Eagles board they have literally self destructed. It is funny as hell over there right now.
Here is the link to their Moulds thread:
http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/index.php?showtopic=318009&st=2160
Man talk about denial.
Here is the link to their Moulds thread:
http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/index.php?showtopic=318009&st=2160
Man talk about denial.
texanfan2002114
Veteran
GhostRaider2006 said:
I have been watching them over the last hour and they are funny as ***** to read. They have over 110 pages and over 2100 replies just on eric moulds.
swtbound07
Jackass of Day!
GhostRaider2006 said:
wow...it doesnt even let you view their board unless you register. What exactly are they hiding?
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Titanman9
Guest
You guys will still suck no o-line and no qb and a def that can't stop a high school team
texanfan2002114
Veteran
1)"why would moulds sign for only 3 mil a year
he could of made more takinga pay cut in buffalo
and buffalo will win just as many if not more games this year than houston
houston sucks"
2)please tell me we are not that f'n cheap!!
3)Unless Matt is BSing, this is done now, Sirius is definitely credible. They must of offered a better pick or a large bonus, I wonder how much that was...
Still can't believe we got beat out by the terrible a** Texans...
4)we got beat out by the 2-14 texans.........i know alot of you are diehards who hold out hope til the last second...but sometimes you just gotta keep it real.
5)Freakin' A...this kinda sucks.
Ah well. We'll be OK. He can go to Houston and have a 4-12 season. And make the same amount that he would've made here.
Nice job, Eric.
he could of made more takinga pay cut in buffalo
and buffalo will win just as many if not more games this year than houston
houston sucks"
2)please tell me we are not that f'n cheap!!
3)Unless Matt is BSing, this is done now, Sirius is definitely credible. They must of offered a better pick or a large bonus, I wonder how much that was...
Still can't believe we got beat out by the terrible a** Texans...
4)we got beat out by the 2-14 texans.........i know alot of you are diehards who hold out hope til the last second...but sometimes you just gotta keep it real.
5)Freakin' A...this kinda sucks.
Ah well. We'll be OK. He can go to Houston and have a 4-12 season. And make the same amount that he would've made here.
Nice job, Eric.
It is 4 pm and Mark V said Casserly on plane with contract, BUT NOT SIGNED as Bills yet to accept the trade. Mark voiced it "should be a done deal soon." He then corrected himself saying things like this can go wrong. Sounded to me if Eric has accepted an offer and Bills have to accept what ever pick for trade to be completed. Probably run it by Eagles one last time. Sport updt said Texans office tells 610 moments ago.. no deal done at this time.
swtbound07
Jackass of Day!
texanfan2002114 said:
keep them coming there bro...these are hilarious
GhostRaider2006
Waterboy
Its basically this but in different versions:
"The deal is not done until he agrees to the pact and SIGNS on the dotted line. The Eagles could still swoop in with a better deal. Houston right now has the lock. But it's not as simple as "WE LOST HIM" just yet. I'm just telling you what is going around the airwaves."
They also don't believe the validity of the reports. Instead they are falling back on "I'm not going to believe this until kffl or ESPN.com reports it".
The denial over there is unbelievable. They just can't stomach that we beat them out in acquiring Moulds. They can't compute or comprehend it. It is funny as hell.
"The deal is not done until he agrees to the pact and SIGNS on the dotted line. The Eagles could still swoop in with a better deal. Houston right now has the lock. But it's not as simple as "WE LOST HIM" just yet. I'm just telling you what is going around the airwaves."
They also don't believe the validity of the reports. Instead they are falling back on "I'm not going to believe this until kffl or ESPN.com reports it".
The denial over there is unbelievable. They just can't stomach that we beat them out in acquiring Moulds. They can't compute or comprehend it. It is funny as hell.
swtbound07
Jackass of Day!
chuckm said:
i registered...how long does it normally take for the admin to clear you?
texanfan2002114
Veteran
swtbound07 said:
it took me overnight to get approved.
ALSO I'M POST 1000 ON THIS THREAD!!!
Yossarian
Practice Squad
www.bugmenot.com gives you passwords to websites so you don't have to register...
user: bugmenot_eagles
pass: 12345
user: bugmenot_eagles
pass: 12345
texanfan2002114
Veteran
Yossarian said:
cool site
TexanFan881
All Pro
Yossarian said:
Thanks for that
Commissioner
Practice Squad
You guys can listen to wha they are saying in Buffalo about this at www.wgr550.com .
Their Bills beat reporter just contacted the Bills and Moulds' agent and said the Houston report is false. His agent is still talking to the Eagles and Texans.
Their Bills beat reporter just contacted the Bills and Moulds' agent and said the Houston report is false. His agent is still talking to the Eagles and Texans.
TopTexanFan16
Waterboy
Commissioner said:
haha Nice way to bring down almost every Texan fan on this message board....you coulda just kept that to your self and let us find out.....haha ( not meaning this post to sound deragatory)
TopTexanFan16
Waterboy
Porky said::brickwall
And the Drama begins....see commisioner this is exactly what i was talking about, now poor porky probably wont be able to sleep tonight as he lies whimpering in bed.....gesh.