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Mock Draft 2.0 Discussion

:woot All right now that I have Castillo , did he fall or is about where he should go ? On Nfl.com he had the highest ratio of power or something like that and was an academic All American . I figured he might go in the first . He is now a part of the Chiefs sieve like Defense .
 
If there's one person that goes in the first that no one thought would, it would be Castillo...He had a great combine and he has good size...I could see him going as early as 25th overall to the Broncos...
 
D-ReK said:
If there's one person that goes in the first that no one thought would, it would be Castillo...He had a great combine and he has good size...I could see him going as early as 25th overall to the Broncos...
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Drew Boylhart of the Huddle just came out with a new Mock Draft (that I posted excerpts from in Mock Draft thread) had Denver taking Castillo with the 25th pick :thumbup
 
:thumbup I figured the Chiefs are not getting any younger and with the free agents they picked up I will go for it . They still have a very good OL so if they can stop someone they may make some waves .

Can I start the contract talks with Rogers and Castillo or is this only a mock draft ?
 
That's an interesting pick for the Panthers. Did the Cats consider a TE like Smith for the pick? TE seems like a weak spot for them.
 
wags said:
That's an interesting pick for the Panthers. Did the Cats consider a TE like Smith for the pick? TE seems like a weak spot for them.
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Fason is a good pick for them...They're a run-heavy team that has oft-injured RBs...While TE does look like a weak spot for them, I doubt they'll take a first day TE...In their scheme, the main responsibility of the TE is to block, not receive...
 
I considered picking up a TE, but Smith just didn't seem like he should go that high. I'm thinking I can still get the TE I have my eye on in the 3rd or 4th and still get good value for the pick. If everything goes according to plan I should end up with the guys I want for the Panthers. I thought for sure that Fason would be gone early in the 2nd. I feel that Foster is best suited as a situational back to come in from time to time to rest the starter. Foster seems to excell at running to the outside whereas Fason can run inside or outside, but doesnt have the same break away speed as Foster. IMO Fason will make an excellent starting RB, and with Davis getting long in the tooth it won't be long before Fason and Foster will share the backfield. Can't beat that combination.
 
So there is my draft: Carnell Williams, Odell Thurman, Justin Tuck. I like it, but I may be in the minority.
 
Fiddy said:
So there is my draft: Carnell Williams, Odell Thurman, Justin Tuck. I like it, but I may be in the minority.
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You should be happy. You picked up 3 outstanding athletes that produced at the collegiate level. No doubt that Denny Green would take that on the 1st day.
 
I think you've done a pretty good job for the Cardinals. You got three very talented players. The only thing I'd like to see them do is maybe pickup a young QB like Frye or Green or Fitzpatrick to learn from Warner. Then again Denny Green doesn't mind putting a backup in, and he's got McCown and Navarre at his disposal. Overall nice job. :thumbup
 
texasguy346 said:
The only thing I'd like to see them do is maybe pickup a young QB like Frye or Green or Fitzpatrick to learn from Warner. Then again Denny Green doesn't mind putting a backup in, and he's got McCown and Navarre at his disposal. Overall nice job. :thumbup
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I was thinking about picking up Orton or Jason Campbell in the 3rd but I couldnt believe that Tuck was still on the board so I traded all my remaining picks to get him because I think he will be a big time star in this league. I would love for the Texans to pick him up in the real draft.
 
Fiddy said:
I was thinking about picking up Orton or Jason Campbell in the 3rd but I couldnt believe that Tuck was still on the board so I traded all my remaining picks to get him.
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I took a look at him too, but since the Panthers already have a young and dominant pass rusher in Peppers I felt I had to pass on him. You definately got three first round type talent players. Not bad. :thumbup
 
I like Tuck quite a bit myself. I would have traded up for him too. Denny should do so well.
 
Good choice with Tuck. I believe that he's going to be a star in the NFL. The kid has improved his game in each of his 3 years at Notre Dame & he's still growing. He should have no problem getting up to around 280 lbs, without losing any of his speed, or quickness.
 
while doing anaylsis of prospects available with the 49th pick I began to focus more & more on Fabian Washington the similaties to Dunta Robinson are impressive, I think this kid may be one of the draft day steals :) if he slips this far down in the draft I would really hope the Texans take him with their 2nd rd pick. their measureables coming out of College are near identical- both the same height 5-10 and weight 184 with similar speed (Dunta 4.34, Fabian 4.29/4.31) & vertical (Dunta 38 1/2", Fabian 41 1/2).

I believe both where also track stars & Fabian also dabbled in Basketball. Fabien enlisted the same sports agency, Sportstars as Dunta. it would also be kinda cool (although not really revelent to this discussion) to reunite Washington with Lord (former Nebraska QB, now Safety for the Texans). both are excellent cover corners that excell in various packages including nickle & dime as well as corner blitzing. they say speed kills & that you can't teach it, well in both cases you'd be 100% right.

This is a really deep draft for CB's so its difficult to evaluate so much talent against one another, but I really like the comparison to Robinson & think he grades out as a 1st round pick.
 
Fabian is very good, he will be one of the top 3 corners of this class. He posted consistent numbers in college, has the speed/coverage combo, when I watched him he did rely on his speed but he also had good coverage and took good positions.
 
beerlover said:
while doing anaylsis of prospects available with the 49th pick I began to focus more & more on Fabian Washington the similaties to Dunta Robinson are impressive, I think this kid may be one of the draft day steals...
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I remember the Huskers' defense as being pretty porous last season and Washington was part of that defense. Next to last in passing defense in the Big 12 (70 points to Tech?). There's no question that Washington has the athletic ability to play in the NFL, just as his Nebraska teammates Josh Bullock & Barrett Ruud do. But they didn't get the very best coaching in Lincoln and may be a year or so away from contributing on the pro level (besides special teams). I can't see Washington stepping in and becoming the impact player Robinson was as a rookie.
 
Lucky said:
I remember the Huskers' defense as being pretty porous last season and Washington was part of that defense. Next to last in passing defense in the Big 12 (70 points to Tech?). There's no question that Washington has the athletic ability to play in the NFL, just as his Nebraska teammates Josh Bullock & Barrett Ruud do. But they didn't get the very best coaching in Lincoln and may be a year or so away from contributing on the pro level (besides special teams). I can't see Washington stepping in and becoming the impact player Robinson was as a rookie.
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agreed I would not expect Washington stepping in & having the impact Robinson did as a rookie because the Texans now have depth & experience. But his learning curve as a Texan would enable him to contribute & take over Glenns starting position in a couple years, god forbid injury's to any of our corners. I like his speed & as you correctly alluded too did not receive very good coaching the last couple years at Nebraska, that would also contribute to him being undervalued, if he played at Texas or Oklahoma the odds are in his favor he would be a guaranteed 1st rd pick. if he where available for the Texans to draft #47 I think its a no brainer, assuming they don't go CB with the 13th pick.
 
STEEL BLUE TEXANS said:
I think Justin Miller resembles Dunta the most from this year's draft class.
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Justin is slower and thicker although their running style is similar. I like Justin too but I was looking at taking a CB in the 2nd round not the 1st.
 
It wouldnt have made it past 50th pick

beerlover said:
while doing anaylsis of prospects available with the 49th pick I began to focus more & more on Fabian Washington the similaties to Dunta Robinson are impressive, I think this kid may be one of the draft day steals :) if he slips this far down in the draft I would really hope the Texans take him with their 2nd rd pick. their measureables coming out of College are near identical- both the same height 5-10 and weight 184 with similar speed (Dunta 4.34, Fabian 4.29/4.31) & vertical (Dunta 38 1/2", Fabian 41 1/2).

I believe both where also track stars & Fabian also dabbled in Basketball. Fabien enlisted the same sports agency, Sportstars as Dunta. it would also be kinda cool (although not really revelent to this discussion) to reunite Washington with Lord (former Nebraska QB, now Safety for the Texans). both are excellent cover corners that excell in various packages including nickle & dime as well as corner blitzing. they say speed kills & that you can't teach it, well in both cases you'd be 100% right.

This is a really deep draft for CB's so its difficult to evaluate so much talent against one another, but I really like the comparison to Robinson & think he grades out as a 1st round pick.
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Honoring Earl 34 said:
:woot What about the comp picks on NFL.com? Am I being ignored again .
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My bad, I'll go over with it with Vinny but I dont see why we shouldnt give it to you and whoever else is suppose to receive them.
 
:woot Thats good news I was on the porch for the rest of the draft . But now I get to track picks and think who's gonna be there I don't have to get a life after all.
 
Fiddy said:
My bad, I'll go over with it with Vinny but I dont see why we shouldnt give it to you and whoever else is suppose to receive them.
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I totally agree :thumbup its not too late lets do it for all the teams as sanctioned by the league.
 
Yeah, we are giving them I just need to put them into the list which may take some time. Dont worry, I'll have the picks up by the end of the 2nd round.
 
:woot Great Blue North Draft Report has a new 3 round mock out . We take Cadilac in the first . The CB from VT I think his name is Green 2nd. We take Gibson WR Georgia (3A) and Munoz OT from Tennesee with (3B).
 
RiotCommander said:
With the 57th pick of the 2005 NFL Draft the NY Jets Select:
Bryant McFadden CB 6-0, 185 Florida State



After taking Miller in the first round the Jets look to fill the biggest hole on the team. McFadden should vasty improve a seconary that has many holes. The Jets could have gone OT with this pick as it is their next biggest need, but with one of my top 5 CBs still on the board I went with defense.
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curious about your top 5 CB's & why?

  • Antrell Rolle
  • Carlos Rogers
  • Adam Pac Man Jones
  • Justin Miller
  • Bryant McFadden

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Do you actually consider McFadden better than

  • Corey Webster
  • Brandon Browner
  • Eric Green
  • Marlin Jackson
  • Fabian Washington
 
beerlover said:
curious about your top 5 CB's & why?

  • Antrell Rolle
  • Carlos Rogers
  • Adam Pac Man Jones
  • Justin Miller
  • Bryant McFadden

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Do you actually consider McFadden better than

  • Corey Webster
  • Brandon Browner
  • Eric Green
  • Marlin Jackson
  • Fabian Washington
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Well your top 5 is actually close to mine
  • Antrell Rolle
  • Adam Pac Man Jones
  • Carlos Rogers
  • Justin Miller
  • Bryant McFadden


Now, of course this is only my opinion, but I feel that a lot of the other players you listed were high on some mock drafts because of speed or size rather then skill.
 
RiotCommander said:
Well your top 5 is actually close to mine
  • Antrell Rolle
  • Adam Pac Man Jones
  • Carlos Rogers
  • Justin Miller
  • Bryant McFadden


Now, of course this is only my opinion, but I feel that a lot of the other players you listed were high on some mock drafts because of speed or size rather then skill.
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that is not my top 5 I was simply quessing what yours had to be given the fact as you stated Bryant McFadden was in your top 5. my top 5 would look the same except delete McFadden and implant Marlin Jackson. after Jackson I think that Fabian Washington gets the nod based upon his upside & 4.29 speed which is critical @ the NFL CB positon with the new rules, the corners have to be able to shawdow then close at will & fabian has the wheels to do it.

McFadden is a fine CB prospect however and a good pick-up here (5-11 3/8, 188) ran his 40s in 4.41 and 4.50 :)
 
pretty funny.

I'm fixing it right now. HBTC, I just gave you the next best TE prospect on the board. I wouldn't have picked a TE at this point because I think there are better prospects at other positions, but Everett is a better pick than Ben Utecht and this honors your TE wishes.
 
Top 5 corners as far as skill (pure playmaking ability)

1. Pac Man Jones
2. Marlin Jackson
3. Carlos Rogers
4. Justin Miller
5. Corey Webster

Bryant McFadden just out of the top 5

Top 5 corners as far as potential (speed and/or size)

1. Antrell Rolle (size and speed)
2. Brandon Browner(great size)
3. Pac Man Jones(speed and quickness)
4. Fabian Washington(one of the fastest corners)
5. Carlos Rogers(size - 6'0 - along with 4.3 speed)
 
i was just wondering if i could get some feedback on the falcons draft so far.....
1st- mark clayton
3rd- mike patterson
 
The picks are solid but I didn’t understand trading up for Clayton. The Vikings were the only team with a real need for a receiver and they already got Edwards.
 
the only team with a real need for receiver? Nah man, atlanta has a super shaky receiving corp. Peerless price was a bust as a trade, dez white is garbage, and jenkins needs more time. The falcons needed to pull one of the top 4 receivers.....williams, edwards, williamson,or clayton, and i saw the first 3 vanish off the board, and had no reason to believe that clayton would be there that late...and i kept my 2nd and 4th round pick, so i thought i came out okay.
As far as my 2nd round pick goes, thats where i was unsure, but it seemed solid
 
Too funny. I guess they get a Georgia guy regardless.

I'm giving them the incoherent guy with more physical talent. Gibson.
 
We'll be through the 3rd Round by then, and possibly halfway through the 4th. Remember that the first day of the draft is rounds 1 through 3, and then day two is rounds 4 through 7. Considering how long the first couple of rounds takes for the actual draft I think we'll be able to wrap this draft up before the actual draft gets through round 4.
 
I'm a little surprised Minnesota didn't go for a LB, but they'll sure have a very competitive and formidable DLine. Udeze, P. Williams, K. Williams, James. Then they've got Babineaux, Mixon, Martin all on the bench. They've also got good depth at CB with the addition of Washington. LB seemed like their only weakness, but with CBs that can cover well and a DLine like that they may not need much else.
 
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