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Mock Draft 2.0 Discussion

It's not easy to take big risks, but if anything the pick sounds like something Martz would do. To be honest when I saw Matt Jones' numbers at the combine I instantly thought he'd be a good fit for the Rams on that fast turf of theirs.
 
The one thing that's true about this draft class is that after the top tier of players, a lot of the players rate the same on into the 3rd round, so there should be a few head-scratchers come April 23rd...
 
what does everyone think of Spears going to Jax?????? Id like to hear some feedback.....I know I wouldnt wanna have to play that D-Line 2 times a year..what does everyone else think?
 
I think Spears would be a good fit for them if he slid that far...He's arguably the best DE in the draft and I think he was the BPA when you selected...

Overall, good pick :thumbup ...
 
I like Spears alot, and he looks like a good pickup for Jacksonville, but I might have leaned toward one of the prominent pass rushers like Tuck or Dan Cody or perhaps Pollack. They picked up Hayward, but imagine having two DEs closing in on the QB while the pocket collapses due to Stroud and Henderson pushing the C and G back into the QBs face. However, if I had the chance to get Spears with a 22nd pick I would have a hard time passing him up. He is clearly the BPA, and what he lacks in pass rushing skills he more than makes up for in his ability to stop the run. Honestly I hope he doesn't end up with the Jags come April because I'd hate to have to run against that DLine. Hayward, Henderson, Stroud, and Spears. Might as well run DD into a brick wall 20 or 30 times. You'd get the same result.
 
This is kinda off topic, but have any of yall heard the rumor about Miami going defense with their 1st rounder and taking Marcus Spears 2nd overall? I personally don't think it would happen, but Spears reuniting with Saban is an interesting prospect...
 
I heard that rumor too. Perhaps Saban wants someone to trade up for his #2 overall so he can grab Spears a few slots down while picking up that 2nd rounder they sent to Philly for A.J. Feely.
 
I've heard the rumor, and I've also heard it mentioned that Saban is considering switching to the 3-4 (Him and every other NFL team). Spears would be a good fit for that, but in all likelyhood it would make Taylor an OLB. I'm guessing if you see Miami in the 3-4 it will only be occasionaly (ala the Patriots), and their base D will remain the 4-3. I can't see them taking him 2nd overall though, and I absolutely love Marcus Spears.
 
I did not know the mock draft got broken down so much by so many. Matt Jones is an awsome athlete, there is no two ways about it. He is big, fast, quick, and above all he's a playmaker. He will for sure be a first day pick. He is too talented not to be. It will surprise me if he is not taken on day one. He has developed as a QB through his college career, he has improved at that position. He does need work on his passing skills, but he is the type who can beat a defense with his legs or his arm. He has done both of those things on countless occasions. Mel Kiper said Jones would "only be an emergency QB at best" I like Mel Kiper, but lost some respect for him on that one. I think he was way off on that projection. I think Jones should and probably will get a shot at QB somewhere in the NFL. If he plays WR he can do that well too, he'll need work of course but the talent and skills are there. I think the biggest problem with Jones is that he does not always protect the ball when he carries it, but that can be easily corrected.
 
Nobody was saying Jones wouldn't be a first day pick...Most of the criticism was about taking him at #19 overall and projecting him to QB...Do you honestly think he would be out Bulger? The Rams have had a long line of pocket-passers, and I don't think they would use their first pick on a project at a position they seem to be set at JMO...
 
Oilers/Texans said:
He might not beat out Bulger this year. I don't see him being a starting QB from day one, but after a season or two, watch out!!
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I wanted to take him in the 3rd or 4th. He could sit behind Warner for a year or two then take the starting role after watching one of the smartest QBs in the league.

Jones, Cadillac, Boldin and Fitz would be just flat out leathal.
 
I'd like to be the first to say good pick RT2...Thomas Davis would make the Ravens secondary even more deadly...Ed Reed would slide over to FS, which he seems more suitable for, and Davis may have been the BPA, also...

Good job :thumbup ...
 
Fiddy I would have to agree with you, I was really looking at him in the 3rd or 4th. There is no way he is going to go in the first round, he is a very interesting prospect though.
 
Thanks, It was a tough choice between the Johnson kid from Florida St. or Thomas Davis. I took Davis because he seems to be the BPA, the most upside, and he could make an impact early in the Ravens defense.
 
He hasn't been on in 6 days, but to be fair, he does have 24 hours to make his pick, so just be patient...
 
I would like to know what the thoughts are on my pick of Miller with #26. I know that the Jets are in need of an OT, and a CB, but none of the ones on the board to me are worth a first round selection. I tried to pick one of the BPA that filled a need of the team. At least we don't have a lot of Jets fans around here to skin me :cool:
 
Miller is a great pick for the Jets. I believe they lost Becht in FA. Miller could start for them.
 
yes but Miller is the best TEA (Tight End Available) and the Jets do NEED one. its a very safe & appropriate pick. :woot

in another smart move Hoth-Boy just selected TJ. again throw out the BPA & take the BPA who fits your #1 need.
 
What do yall think of my Hawthorne pick for the colts? I wanted to get a cb but I thought all the best ones were gone and hawthorne was too good to pass up. I was strongly considering browner or pollack. What do yall think?
 
that would be a upgrade on a defensive line that over achieved to say the least, would make playing them next year a concern unless the Texans aggressivly re-tool their offensive line. good pick IMO :thumbup
 
I hear Browner was painfully slow when he ran. 4.6's doesn't cut it for CB's so I think you did the right thing passing on him.
 
I think Hawthorne is the right guy for them...I think if he's there on draft day, they snag him unless Justin Miller slips down a little...
 
Rosusu said:
What do yall think of my Hawthorne pick for the colts? I wanted to get a cb but I thought all the best ones were gone and hawthorne was too good to pass up. I was strongly considering browner or pollack. What do yall think?
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I thought about taking him...but decided against it...
 
WildBlackBear32 said:
I thought about taking him...but decided against it...
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Good input.

I think the Colts cant go wrong with a pick on D. DT, LB, or CB. I think I would have gone with someone like Marlin Jackson, Kevin Burnett, or Channing Crowder. But they also need a big DT.
 
I'd hate to see the Colts really pick him up in the draft. It wouldn't be good for the Texans. However, I do think they'll go with defense in the 1st. Not sure if Crowder fits well into Dungy's Cover 2, but I think Burnett would be a good fit. Blackstock might even do well in that scheme with his speed, but I'm not sure of his coverage ability. They could definately use a CB, but they could pick up a couple good ones in later rounds. If Hawthorne can command double teams from time to time then it will free up Freeny and Mathis to cause mass chaos in the backfield.
 
Not to be too critical but no way Seattle take a C with their 1st rd pick. They desperately need defense especially LB and with Crowder still available I don't see them getting Baas.
 
I didn't feel Crowder was worth the 23 so I addressed an area that needed youth and Baas is very good. DJ is the only LB off the board I'm sure there will be a good LB around in the 2nd or 3rd. They have 2 young safties (Hamlin is good, Boulware played a lot last year as a rookie) good CB's, have good youth (and some talent)at DT, Winstrom, Leverette, Cochran at DE. They have the skill players on O so I wanted to be sure to solidify line for years to come.
 
My pick wasn't the slam dunk decision some might be thinking it was. I debated betwwen several positions, but it came down to who I could get at 27 versus my later picks at each of the positions I feel the Bengals might be targeting. In the end it came down to Johnson versus Hawthorne; and between the two neither has a "perfect" draft resume. Johnson had some off the field issues early on at FSU, and Marv Lewis isn't usually to found of that kinda of stuff, plus I'm always leary of guys who have only had one good year in college, at least in the first round. I would have gone with Hawthorne, but I'm leary of the fact that his production in college might come from playing on one of the better D-lines in the nation last year; combined with the fact that his short shuttle and 3 cone drills were not as fast as I hoped. In the end I wen't with Johnson because he has teh higher ceiling and dominated at more times last year.

I was really trying to do something different from all the intrenet mocks, but alas I failed.
 
Let's rephrase that, I wanted to do something different from all the Internet drafts, not something like the Bengals of old would do.
 
beerlover said:
now this is funny we have two Matt Jones both from Arkansas that play QB, TE & WR :woot
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LoL...I almost screwed up like that last mock when I was about to take Odell Thurman in the 3rd thinking I had a steal, only to decide against it and take Mike Patterson...Turns out Thurman was taken in the early 2nd...Boy would I have felt like a jackass...
 
Heh man I diden't think anyone would take Matt Jones in the first, I diden't even bother looking. Wow, he got picked by the Rams too, thats really early for him =\
 
I also looked at the prospect list, just to see if he was even on there, and I looked under WR and it showed he haden't been taken. I just looked now and hes also under QB and he is taken under there.
 
Maybe I'm slow but, why is everyone so high on Jones, He was a decent QB in college, but never really did much.
 
Simply because he's not going to be a QB in the pros. He's going to be a WR. He's taller than Mike Williams, faster than Mike Williams, and bigger than Mike Williams. He also showed great hands at the Senior Bowl, caught his side's only touchdown. I think he can be a real threat in the endzone his first year atleast.
 
Everyone's high on Jones as a WR or TE...He'd be a great red-zone threat...I think he's 6"6' and ran a 4.45 at the combine...
 
C'mon J, you know that no matter how much basketball you play, white men still can't jump :jumpbanan ...
 
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