Shishkabob
All Pro
Thats old news, still dont think there is a realistic way to get up from 22 to 3 without multiple first, a couple 2nds, and probably some valuable players
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Thats old news, still dont think there is a realistic way to get up from 22 to 3 without multiple first, a couple 2nds, and probably some valuable players
Shishkabob
All Pro
In the NFL you dont want someone who has to wind up and put everything into a deep corner route. why because this requires time, and space something that doesnt come around often in the NFL
I didn't see any of that in their game tape. They've both got flaws, I understand there is a reason no one is talking about drafting either guy in the first.
But lack of arm strength isn't one of them. It's not a strength, not a weakness.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Considering its a link from a couple of days ago and I had not heard about it yet. Maybe i missed that thread or it got lost in the mail or something. But yeah, anyways it will take a big package, it always does.
Shishkabob
All Pro
I think our max trade up range would be the 12 or 13 spot. If the QB you really like falls out of the top 10 make a move for him if you think someone like the Rams will go after him. Hell as of right now the NYJ only have Petty and Geno under contract, and its not like if they resign Fitz he is a long term answer. You also have to remember the Bills GM said theyre not oppose to taking a QB if one they really like is there.
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
There's rumors that Baalke likes Cook so they could conceivably pass on Goff in the 1st.
The real question is are the Chargers willing to make a deal or are they trying to get a steal?
Looking at Walter's Football draft value chart, it would take 2016 and 2017 #1 & #2 draft picks, using 1.22 and 2.54 as the draft pick values.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
There aren't as many teams in need at QB this year I don't think there would be a bidding war to move up. The cost is always high. Risk vs reward.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
Matching fifth round QBs in Savage and Hack?
A pox upon you for suggesting the idea!! And Savage was a 4th round pick...just sayin'.
Here's an interesting article on the draft.
1. Scout: "This is not a good class"
A scout and I went to lunch in Indianapolis, and before the waiter could say hello, the scout was ranting about the state of quarterbacking in college and the NFL.
On college quarterbacks: "Not a single one who makes you go, 'Wow.' The best teams can hope for is that one of these guys becomes Trent Dilfer."
Wait...what? Did you say Trent Dilfer?
"This is not a good class. No matter how much you guys in the media try to spin it."
So, there's that.
He calmed down after the food arrived. He had been hungry and grumpy. Now, he was just grumpy.
The scout is one of the more respected in football, and based on interviews with a half-dozen personnel evaluators, he's not the only one who feels this way. (Well, the Dilfer comparison is a little extreme.) His overall point wasn't just about quarterbacks, and it wasn't crazy, either. This is what he was saying:
Not only is the quarterback talent in this draft barely above average. The overall offensive talent is as well.
"This is one of the worst drafts for offensive talent in the past four or five years," the scout said.
1. Scout: "This is not a good class"
A scout and I went to lunch in Indianapolis, and before the waiter could say hello, the scout was ranting about the state of quarterbacking in college and the NFL.
On college quarterbacks: "Not a single one who makes you go, 'Wow.' The best teams can hope for is that one of these guys becomes Trent Dilfer."
Wait...what? Did you say Trent Dilfer?
"This is not a good class. No matter how much you guys in the media try to spin it."
So, there's that.
He calmed down after the food arrived. He had been hungry and grumpy. Now, he was just grumpy.
The scout is one of the more respected in football, and based on interviews with a half-dozen personnel evaluators, he's not the only one who feels this way. (Well, the Dilfer comparison is a little extreme.) His overall point wasn't just about quarterbacks, and it wasn't crazy, either. This is what he was saying:
Not only is the quarterback talent in this draft barely above average. The overall offensive talent is as well.
"This is one of the worst drafts for offensive talent in the past four or five years," the scout said.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Well hell, an anonymous supposed scout said it.
In other anonymous news Savage is slightly better than Brady.
In other anonymous news Savage is slightly better than Brady.
The writer has legit creds to his name and it's a slow offseason. lol
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
I only play scout on weekends and frankly am a Cal grad so not entirely unbiased. But Goff is the real deal. JMO. Not sure we have what it takes to get him.
The last underappreciated Cal grad turned out pretty good.
The last underappreciated Cal grad turned out pretty good.
Similar draft this year... maybe we'll get lucky and Goff will slide too
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
After the universe created itself and hydrogen and helium atoms formed stars, and the stars formed the heavier elements, the Bureau Of Planet and Mineral management was created in a far away galaxy. I have beamed them complaints about Houston and our lack of proper humans to play football, which, of course, is a direct result of mineral mismanagement dispersal on Earth. Houston got screwed and I'm upset about that.
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
I disagree with said scout on QB. Sure, there isn't a Luck/Winston/Mariota slam dunk guy but if those guys are A+/A prospects then Wentz and Goff are A-/B+. Still perfectly capable of being franchise guys. Not to mention there is depth in the class where quite a few of these guys can be solid backups. People are always obsessed with starters but backups are valuable too.
Agree with him on overall offensive talent. I have 1 WR and 1 RB with 1st round grades. That's it. The skill level talent is sub-par. The O-Line group is solid though, especially Center. Probably the best Center group in years.
Agree with him on overall offensive talent. I have 1 WR and 1 RB with 1st round grades. That's it. The skill level talent is sub-par. The O-Line group is solid though, especially Center. Probably the best Center group in years.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Not as much as you think. I got called Nazi at Cal A LOT. I went there for the physics degree. The building is named for a Confederate.
sandman
Brexit Advisor
Seems like half the engineers in my company are from Cal. Of course, our HQ is in the Bay Area. The vast majority of those coming out of STEM programs at Cal that I've worked with/come across are grounded and moderate on most issues. Not at all the stereotype of a Cal grad.
I spent most of the last three years in SoCal and I found this to be the case with 99% of people I met and/or worked with.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
SoCal has 2 very different meanings. LA or SD? They are almost different states.
Both. And OC as well.
Huntington Beach, El Segundo, El Centro, Chula Vista
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sandman
Brexit Advisor
Heck, LA County and the OC are two different meanings. At least they used to be. My family is from Whittier. You could practically see the grass get greener as you drove next door to La Habra.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
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