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Martin v. Incognito: [update] Wells Report released

a bad situation, but there are some good discussions resulting from it. depression and mental illness, bullying, acceptable social norms, and many others. hopefully these talks will help bring about some change for the better. i dont think much of that applies in this situation though, because ...

Double Barrel said:
The normal "rules of engagement" for dealing with typical bullies do not apply or work with sociopaths.

And this is where I think the story has become lost in translation. Incognito was more than just a bully. Dude crossed so many lines that his behavior goes into the category of mental depravity. This kind of mind does not hear reason, does not respond to respect, does not back down in confrontation or even getting his own ass kicked in.

Johnathan Martin's teammates have said he has stood up for himself and fought other linemen. Dude is not the wimp he's being portrayed.
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incognito is nuckin futs. if i said a year ago that a headline would read "richie incognito torments teammate to the point of quitting", anyone who wouldnt have believed it would lose ten common sense points. without ever giving the victim a name, it was a very plausible and probably scenario. martin just happened to be the victim's name.

if i said in 10 years a headline will read "richie incognito arrested on suspicion of double homicide". will you be surprised? of course not, and again a victim's name isnt required because it could be anybody. what's going to happen when he doesnt have 300lb manliest of men to let his mental instability out on? what happens when he runs out of money? he's already stealing from teammates, he's going to have to fund his lifestyle somehow and i doubt it's going to be by working at home depot. dude is a sociopath and a danger to anyone around him.
 
I think it's pretty awesome how Martin basically ruined Incognito's career. Punching him might feel good in the short term, but destroying the guy's reputation, publicly displaying his *******ry and costing him millions of dollars in lost earnings has to be much more satisfying.
 
eriadoc said:
I just feel the need to point out that Antonio Smith has stood up to Incognito several times in his career, dating back to his time with the Cards. Hasn't stopped Incognito from being a bully toward him. In fact, not only did it not stop Incognito, but a significant segment of the NFL watching populace considered Smith's retaliation unacceptable, and he was fined and suspended for it. So for his efforts, Smith lost money, the team lost a player for a game, and he still has to deal with Incognito.

Yeah, that punch him in the mouth thing works real well, huh?
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Smith was on his weekly radio show last night and said pretty much the same thing, although carefully worded to avoid any potential NFL backlash.

He basically said Incognito has been a POS everywhere he's been and obviously none of this surprises him at all. Incognito's first year surprised Smith, though, but mainly because Incognito had signed a contract with conditions to change his behavior. Smith thought he was being punk'd or something because Incognito was so out of character. Obviously, he was acting for his contract extension.
 
Dutchrudder said:
I think it's pretty awesome how Martin basically ruined Incognito's career. Punching him might feel good in the short term, but destroying the guy's reputation, publicly displaying his *******ry and costing him millions of dollars in lost earnings has to be much more satisfying.
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Yep. People wanted Martin to kick his butt, or bring in a shot gun and blow his brains out because "that's what real men do."

But, Martin will win the war, here. Not only will he ruin Ingonitio's career and likely cost him millions, he could also sue Incognitio, the Dolphins AND the NFL for damages. And would probably win.

Notice how he kept all the text messages and voice mails.

Martin is extremely smart and strong, in my opinion. Not at all "weak."
 
This story is evolving now into one of Martin being hyper-sensitive and Incognito's and other's player's actions as being crass but normal course of business for the Dolphins...

  • If you're that last guy to sit down at a meal, the table gets up & moves. Philbin was supposedly similarly pranked
  • Incognito was asked by position coaches to "train" or "toughen up" Martin after Martin skipped OTAs, to "bring him into the circle"
  • Financial shakedowns & rookie kangaroo courts were institutionalized
  • There is a culture of acceptance of non-blacks using the "N" word in certain circles, including some NFL environments
Although some players have backed Incognito, others stated they would have objected to the extent and nature of Incognito's off the clock communications. Some of the dialogue appears to be changing from disgust to realization.

Not that I agree, but it's what I'm seeing fwiw.
 
Incognito was an "honorary black guy" in the locker according to the Miami Herald:

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...considered-black-in-dolphins-locker-room.html

Well, I've spoken to multiple people today about this and the explanation from all of them is that in the Dolphins locker room, Richie Incognito was considered a black guy. He was accepted by the black players. He was an honorary black man.

And Jonathan Martin, who is bi-racial, was not. Indeed, Martin was considered less black than Incognito.

"Richie is honarary," one player who left the Dolphins this offseason told me today. "I don't expect you to understand because you're not black. But being a black guy, being a brother is more than just about skin color. It's about how you carry yourself. How you play. Where you come from. What you've experienced. A lot of things."

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...ck-in-dolphins-locker-room.html#storylink=cpy
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...in the Dolphins locker room, Richie Incognito was considered a black guy. He was accepted by the black players. He was an honorary black man.

And Jonathan Martin, who is bi-racial, was not. Indeed, Martin was considered less black than Incognito.


Mmmmkay, so the white guy is black but the black guy is not. Natch.

When are they just going to admit the team ordered a Code Red on Martin?
 
houstonspartan said:
Again: stupid comes in all colors. Those black players are morons.

I think Martin was shunned because he has two parents that are Harvard-educated, and he had a good life. That does not go over well with a lot of people. Sad, but true.
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Sad my thoughts as I read it were nearly exact to yours
 
This story may make my head explode. The more I read the more disgusted I become. I have a lack of respect for all Dolphins players after reading that trash. "Honorary black man"? Are these fools serious?
 
Well now, that's a unique way of qualifying Richie's remarks. If the Dolphins offense was that creative, they might not have lost to Buffalo.
 
You know what..... I'm ashamed at the black players on that team. That's the most asinine thing I've ever heard. Black people love Larry Bird, Bill Clinton, Eminem. That doesn't make them honarary black people. It just makes them cool people being who they are. Man, I'm so upset by this its not even funny and I probably shouldn't be. Every single one of those dudes that said that needs to be punched in the face. Could you imagine the uproar of someone saying "he's an honorary white person"? That **** sounds ridiculous man.
 
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ESPN analyst and former Dolphins wide receiver Cris Carter has know Mike Pouncey since the player's childhood. Today Carter said on air he recently spoke to Mike Pouncey and the center, who is Incognito's friend, addressed race.

"They don't feel as if he's a racist, they don't feel as if he picked on Jonathan repeatedly and bullied him, but if they could do it all over again there would be situations that they might change but they’re very, very comfortable with Richie,” Carter said.

“They think it’s sad, not only that Jonathan’s not on the football team, but also that Richie is being depicted as a bigot and as a racist.”

How is this possible?

Well, I've spoken to multiple people today about this and the explanation from all of them is that in the Dolphins locker room, Richie Incognito was considered a black guy. He was accepted by the black players. He was an honorary black man.

And Jonathan Martin, who is bi-racial, was not. Indeed, Martin was considered less black than Incognito.

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...ck-in-dolphins-locker-room.html#storylink=cpy
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It's well known many blacks feel that usage of the N-word is acceptable by
blacks between themselves and it turns out Richie himself is exempt from charges of racism if he uses it because he's viewed by black team members as an "honorary" Bro. And actually he's considered blacker than Martin by black team members. Now that's some really fascinating stuff.
 
IDEXAN said:
ESPN analyst and former Dolphins wide receiver Cris Carter has know Mike Pouncey since the player's childhood. Today Carter said on air he recently spoke to Mike Pouncey and the center, who is Incognito's friend, addressed race.

"They don't feel as if he's a racist, they don't feel as if he picked on Jonathan repeatedly and bullied him, but if they could do it all over again there would be situations that they might change but they’re very, very comfortable with Richie,” Carter said.

“They think it’s sad, not only that Jonathan’s not on the football team, but also that Richie is being depicted as a bigot and as a racist.”

How is this possible?

Well, I've spoken to multiple people today about this and the explanation from all of them is that in the Dolphins locker room, Richie Incognito was considered a black guy. He was accepted by the black players. He was an honorary black man.

And Jonathan Martin, who is bi-racial, was not. Indeed, Martin was considered less black than Incognito.

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...ck-in-dolphins-locker-room.html#storylink=cpy
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It's well known many blacks feel that usage of the N-word is acceptable by
blacks between themselves and it turns out Richie himself is exempt from charges of racism if he uses it because he's viewed by black team members as an "honorary" Bro. And actually he's considered blacker than Martin by black team members. Now that's some really fascinating stuff.
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lets say I have a friend who is african american and is okay with my use of the n word and gives me a pass, that pass is not good for me to us on every other person. Its not sad someone is labeled a racist for saying racist things to a person of another race.
 
Richie Incognito was considered a black guy. He was accepted by the black players. He was an honorary black man.

And Jonathan Martin, who is bi-racial, was not. Indeed, Martin was considered less black than Incognito.
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The whole race thing just jumped the freakin' shark.

I'm sure this is exactly the dream that the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. was talking about in his historic speech for future generations about race relations and equality. (obvious sarcasm)

You know, I've heard over and over again (from players, of course) that none of us could possibly understand a pro football locker room. And now, I'm beginning to think that I don't want to understand it. It's like bizarro world. Maybe all these men have suffered from too much CTE. I'm not sarcastic about this part.
 
Texn4life said:
Haha, what locker room code did he break? He walked away and had to explain why he walked away. He had racial and death threats thrown his way........ man I hope you have a son that deals with the same crap and think locker room code needs to be upheld. Locker room code is a brotherhood. I would never make my brother feel less like a man. The idiots bringing up this stuff don't know what they're talking about.
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Several Dolphin players,Tannehill, Pouncey, Wallace,Clay, the Giants Antrel Rolle, Issac Bruce etc..... feel like he broke the code by taking his problems outside the locker room.

I'm not saying Incognito is right, but Martin's teammates seem to be siding with Incognito. Would you want Martin on the Texans? I know that I wouldn't. Football isn't important to him and this is where the problems between Incognito (Football comes 1st) and Martin (Football is not that important) began. This is also the reason for Incognito's teammates backing him up.

Martin saved those text messages for 6 months. Why not turn them in at the time it happened? Could it be he's hiding from his poor play this yr? Could it be because his teammates knew that Martin could not be trusted when times got tough?

Maybe, because when times got tough Martin quit his team. Supposedly Martin/Incognito were best friends, I wonder what could've gone so wrong?
 
steelbtexan said:
Several Dolphin players,Tannehill, Pouncey, Wallace,Clay, the Giants Antrel Rolle, Issac Bruce etc..... feel like he broke the code by taking his problems outside the locker room.

I'm not saying Incognito is right, but Martin's teammates seem to be siding with Incognito. Would you want Martin on the Texans? I know that I wouldn't. Football isn't important to him and this is where the problems between Incognito (Football comes 1st) and Martin (Football is not that important) began. This is also the reason for Incognito's teammates backing him up.

Martin saved those text messages for 6 months. Why not turn them in at the time it happened? Could it be he's hiding from his poor play this yr? Could it be because his teammates knew that Martin could not be trusted when times got tough?

Maybe, because when times got tough Martin quit his team. Supposedly Martin/Incognito were best friends, I wonder what could've gone so wrong?
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Please stop with the "hiding from his poor play" nonsense. He probably didn't turn them in because he felt attacked from all sides. If, as has been rumored, that the direction came from the Dolphin's management to "toughen him up," that means the guy was essentially all alone, and had NO ONE to talk to. About ANYTHING.

And, as I have said before, if he was playing poorly, why not just cut him? Teams do it all the time (except for the Texans. lol).
 
steelbtexan said:
Several Dolphin players,Tannehill, Pouncey, Wallace,Clay, the Giants Antrel Rolle, Issac Bruce etc..... feel like he broke the code by taking his problems outside the locker room.

I'm not saying Incognito is right, but Martin's teammates seem to be siding with Incognito. Would you want Martin on the Texans? I know that I wouldn't. Football isn't important to him and this is where the problems between Incognito (Football comes 1st) and Martin (Football is not that important) began. This is also the reason for Incognito's teammates backing him up.

Martin saved those text messages for 6 months. Why not turn them in at the time it happened? Could it be he's hiding from his poor play this yr? Could it be because his teammates knew that Martin could not be trusted when times got tough?

Maybe, because when times got tough Martin quit his team. Supposedly Martin/Incognito were best friends, I wonder what could've gone so wrong?
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I'll address this post more at length later, but the day I listen to any of those dudes and take them serious is the day I'll jump off a bridge. Everyone of them is an idiot with the exception of Bruce who probably is too. One of them openly supported a murderer...... You're gonna reference that dude? for real for real?
 
Dutchrudder said:
I think it's pretty awesome how Martin basically ruined Incognito's career. Punching him might feel good in the short term, but destroying the guy's reputation, publicly displaying his *******ry and costing him millions of dollars in lost earnings has to be much more satisfying.
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If you think Incognito's career is ruined from this than I think you are completely wrong. If Incognito is cut someone will pick him up and I think there is a better chance of him still being on the team rather than Martin.

This is one of those arguments that neither side will ever see or understand the point that the other side is trying get at.
 
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Per multiple league sources, Dolphins G.M. Jeff Ireland received a call from Martin’s agent, Rick Smith, before Martin left the team on October 28. Smith complained to Ireland about the manner in which Incognito was treating Martin.

Ireland, according to the sources, suggested to Smith that Martin physically confront Incognito. Ireland specifically mentioned that Martin should “punch” Incognito.
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PR nightmare for Miami.

If this is true, it's no wonder he left the team. His teammates are friggin' idiots, no help there. The GM's solution is "just punch him," no help there.
 
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Dolphins G.M. Jeff Ireland told Martin’s agent, Rick Smith, that Martin should “punch” Incognito
Per multiple league sources, Dolphins G.M. Jeff Ireland received a call from Martin’s agent, Rick Smith, before Martin left the team on October 28. Smith complained to Ireland about the manner in which Incognito was treating Martin.

Ireland, according to the sources, suggested to Smith that Martin physically confront Incognito. Ireland specifically mentioned that Martin should “punch” Incognito...
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So this whole thing was a psychological ploy engineered by the ever classy Jeff Ireland...?
 
Playoffs said:
...in the Dolphins locker room, Richie Incognito was considered a black guy. He was accepted by the black players. He was an honorary black man.
And Jonathan Martin, who is bi-racial, was not. Indeed, Martin was considered less black than Incognito.


Mmmmkay, so the white guy is black but the black guy is not. Natch.

When are they just going to admit the team ordered a Code Red on Martin?
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Growing up there would always be that ONE white guy or Latino who kicked it with a group of brothas and would essentially be seen as "one of us" BUT the guy in question wouldn't be dropping N-bombs. The individual in question would be seen as EITHER "cool as hell" or a "crazy muff-hugga". That might have changed since a billion years ago when I was growing up, but to me it just looks like Incognito is a jerk, but his team mates are sticking by him because that's what you do.The prevailing attitude is "The guy's an a-hole, but he's OUR a-hole."
 
Playoffs said:
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Dolphins G.M. Jeff Ireland told Martin’s agent, Rick Smith, that Martin should “punch” Incognito


So this whole thing was a psychological ploy engineered by the ever classy Jeff Ireland...?
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Okay...maybe my head is in a messed up place but I can't see this pic without imagining this little blonde doing a "Chinese Finger Cuffs" thing with these two massive, collard green eatin' muff-huggas....and ewwww....
 
Dread-Head said:
Growing up there would always be that ONE white guy or Latino who kicked it with a group of brothas and would essentially be seen as "one of us" BUT the guy in question wouldn't be dropping N-bombs. The individual in question would be seen as EITHER "cool as hell" or a "crazy muff-hugga". That might have changed since a billion years ago when I was growing up, but to me it just looks like Incognito is a jerk, but his team mates are sticking by him because that's what you do.The prevailing attitude is "The guy's an a-hole, but he's OUR a-hole."
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In August of my son's Sr year playing HS football, two best friends were riding together in a car - one white (although he was a ginger) and one black. These guys were inseparable prior to the following incident. The white guy was driving and they were joking around, he used the n word. The black guy punched him and broke his jaw. Which reinforces the idea that it is NOT ok for a white guy to drop the n bomb. Ruined both of their Senior years. One guy couldn't play due to injury and the other had to transfer to another school as a condition of not being charged with assault.
 
GlassHalfFull said:
In August of my son's Sr year playing HS football, two best friends were riding together in a car - one white (although he was a ginger) and one black. These guys were inseparable prior to the following incident. The white guy was driving and they were joking around, he used the n word. The black guy punched him and broke his jaw. Which reinforces the idea that it is NOT ok for a white guy to drop the n bomb. Ruined both of their Senior years. One guy couldn't play due to injury and the other had to transfer to another school as a condition of not being charged with assault.
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Not having been there, I can't attest to what happened, but you give a guy ONE free pass on that. Either homeboy said it repeatedly, OR said it in a context which pissed his boy the vugg off. That sounds unpleasant.
 
Dread-Head said:
Not having been there, I can't attest to what happened, but you give a guy ONE free pass on that. Either homeboy said it repeatedly, OR said it in a context which pissed his boy the vugg off. That sounds unpleasant.
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From what I heard, it was a reflexive action. But the story does make me skeptical of Incognito's "honorary blackness" giving him a free pass to drop the n word.
 
GlassHalfFull said:
From what I heard, it was a reflexive action. But the story does make me skeptical of Incognito's "honorary blackness" giving him a free pass to drop the n word.
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I think the Dolphins are in damage control mode and are encouraging the players to come forward to speak on Incognito's behalf. I'm waiting for some of his FORMER team mates to come forward to do the same as I KNOW it's not going to happen. The GM (or coach I can't remember which) asked a potential draftee last year if his mother was a prostitute. I question the intellect and decision making abilities of the Dolphins. Smart people would cut their losses.
 
I played bass in a blues band for a black dude. He would always call me and the drummer (both white) his "n-bomb-with-an-'a'-s". First time he said it my eyes must have bulged out, because he laughed his ass off and said it just means good friend to him. I got used to it over time...sorta'....always kinda' weird...funny part was his white g/f getting mad at me when I said me and the drummer were crackers (a term I'd never heard before this blues band). So he could call us nbomba's, but god forbid if I laughed at the term cracker. Go figure.

We live in strange, confusing times.

Txn in Oki said:
If you think Incognito's career is ruined from this than I think you are completely wrong. If Incognito is cut someone will pick him up and I think there is a better chance of him still being on the team rather than Martin.
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I tend to agree. Richie will go to some kind of sensitivity training and get picked up by the Raiders.

The NFL has shown a tendency to forgive guys for a lot of things if they still have game in them.

It's still a business at the end of the day, and marketing will spin Richie's story as reformed if he chooses that path.
 
Incognito and Martin: An Insider’s Story

Former Miami Dolphins offensive lineman Lydon Murtha pulls back the curtain on what he saw and what he’s heard of the relationship between Richie Incognito and Jonathan Martin, from the locker room dynamic to that now-famous O-line trip to Vegas
From the beginning, when he was drafted in April 2012, Martin did not seem to want to be one of the group. He came off as standoffish and shy to the rest of the offensive linemen. He couldn’t look anyone in the eye, which was puzzling for a football player at this level on a team full of grown-ass men. We all asked the same question: Why won’t he be open with us? What’s with the wall being put up? I never really figured it out. He did something I’d never seen before by balking at the idea of paying for a rookie dinner, which is a meal for a position group paid for by rookies. (For example, I paid $9,600 for one my rookie year.) I don’t know if Martin ever ended up paying for one, as I was cut before seeing the outcome.

Martin was expected to play left tackle beside Incognito at guard from the start, so Incognito took him under his wing. They were close friends by all apperances. Martin had a tendency to tank when things would get difficult in practice, and Incognito would lift him up. He’d say, there’s always tomorrow. Richie has been more kind to Martin than any other player.

In other situations, when Martin wasn’t showing effort, Richie would give him a lot of crap. He was a leader on the team, and he would get in your face if you were unprepared or playing poorly. The crap he would give Martin was no more than he gave anyone else, including me. Other players said the same things Incognito said to Martin, so you’d need to suspend the whole team if you suspend Incognito...
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Incognito was made a scapegoat for the hell coming down on the Dolphins organization, which in turn said it knew nothing about any so-called hazing. That’s the most outlandish lie of this whole thing. The coaches know everything. The coaches know who’s getting picked on and in many cases call for that player to be singled out. Any type of denial on that side is ridiculous. I have friends on more than a dozen teams, and it’s the same everywhere.
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Playoffs said:
Incognito and Martin: An Insider’s Story

Former Miami Dolphins offensive lineman Lydon Murtha pulls back the curtain on what he saw and what he’s heard of the relationship between Richie Incognito and Jonathan Martin, from the locker room dynamic to that now-famous O-line trip to Vegas
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I'm not sure how much of an insider's story this can really be considered, when Murtha was gone from the Dolphins at the end of Martin's rookie training camp, and the introduction to the piece includes the phrase "and what he's heard" as a significant part of the description.

To me it begs the questions "When did he hear it", and "Who did he hear it from".
 
Double Barrel said:
I played bass in a blues band for a black dude. He would always call me and the drummer (both white) his "n-bomb-with-an-'a'-s". First time he said it my eyes must have bulged out, because he laughed his ass off and said it just means good friend to him. I got used to it over time...sorta'....always kinda' weird...funny part was his white g/f getting mad at me when I said me and the drummer were crackers (a term I'd never heard before this blues band). So he could call us nbomba's, but god forbid if I laughed at the term cracker. Go figure.

We live in strange, confusing times.



I tend to agree. Richie will go to some kind of sensitivity training and get picked up by the Raiders.

The NFL has shown a tendency to forgive guys for a lot of things if they still have game in them.

It's still a business at the end of the day, and marketing will spin Richie's story as reformed if he chooses that path.
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Who knew Double Barrel was somebodys "honorary" Bro ?
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On Richies whereabouts nest year: remember that you tube piece where he's in the bar, bare-chested running around like a crazy man ? Well I listened closer, and I swear I heard him singing:
"O Canada! Our home and native land!"
Yea, I think Richie plays north of the border next year.
 
Declaring war on warrior culture: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id...nathan-martin-miami-dolphins-bullying-scandal

There will always be locker-room *******s. They should be curtailed. And when a player says he needs time off for mental reasons - again: in a sport with a suicide problem - it shouldn't spark a national conversation on whether he's soft.

I am here to hurt you, so I'll also say this: You're a warrior, cool. What the hell are you a warrior for? I'm sorry if this makes it sound like I have emotions other than anger - I assure you that I don't - but tell me this: What's the point of being strong if all you stand for is abusing a suffering teammate? Those guys who taught me that when you see a problem, you step up and solve it, all those anonymous sources foaming on about how to be a man - is that what they think "being a man" is? I mean, nothing about protecting someone who's struggling in your big gender equation, then? Nothing about, like, knowing right from wrong?

Here's what I can't stop thinking: There were so many tough men in that Dolphins locker room. The unwritten code of football is that you handle your business in-house. Any one of these men could have said something to stop Incognito and help Martin. Any one of them could have handled it. They're warriors, right? They're paragons of strength. And yeah, there are complex reasons why they didn't. But they didn't.
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Emphasis mine.
 
IDEXAN said:
Who knew Double Barrel was somebodys "honorary" Bro ?
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lol! I don't know about all that. Kevin referred to every dude he liked with it, regardless of race. Although he was impressed with how much funk I had in me for a white boy. :D
 
Double Barrel said:
lol! I don't know about all that. Kevin referred to every dude he liked with it, regardless of race. Although he was impressed with how much funk I had in me for a white boy. :D
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DB ... back in the day .

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Dread-Head said:
Growing up there would always be that ONE white guy or Latino who kicked it with a group of brothas and would essentially be seen as "one of us" BUT the guy in question wouldn't be dropping N-bombs. The individual in question would be seen as EITHER "cool as hell" or a "crazy muff-hugga". That might have changed since a billion years ago when I was growing up, but to me it just looks like Incognito is a jerk, but his team mates are sticking by him because that's what you do.The prevailing attitude is "The guy's an a-hole, but he's OUR a-hole."
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Reminds me of this classic scene from "The Wire"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82Jg-Omwmo4
 
In high school I hung out with lots of black guys and was free to use the "n" word as long as it ended with an "a" with all of them. So it's not like this awful word to a lot of people.
 
TheIronDuke said:
In high school I hung out with lots of black guys and was free to use the "n" word as long as it ended with an "a" with all of them. So it's not like this awful word to a lot of people.
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Unless you end it with an "-er," then it becomes a different word.

BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STUPID.
 
TheIronDuke said:
In high school I hung out with lots of black guys and was free to use the "n" word as long as it ended with an "a" with all of them. So it's not like this awful word to a lot of people.
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This is why I am proposing the redskins change their name to the redskinnas. Problem solved.
 
Based on the latest statements by team-mates of how these two always hung out together, maybe this is more of a lovers quarrel than anyone being bullied. Seriously could see Incognito going Jeff Alm ...
 
On Thursday night, lawyer David Cornwell issued a statement on behalf of Dolphins tackle Jonathan Martin...
Jonathan Martin’s toughness is not at issue. Jonathan has started every game with the Miami Dolphins since he was drafted in 2012. At Stanford, he was the anchor for Jim Harbaugh’s “smash mouth” brand of football and he protected Andrew Luck’s blind side.

The issue is Jonathan’s treatment by his teammates. Jonathan endured harassment that went far beyond the traditional locker room hazing. For the entire season-and-a-half that he was with the Dolphins, he attempted to befriend the same teammates who subjected him to the abuse with the hope that doing so would end the harassment. This is a textbook reaction of victims of bullying. Despite these efforts, the taunting continued. Beyond the well-publicized voice mail with its racial epithet, Jonathan endured a malicious physical attack on him by a teammate, and daily vulgar comments such as the quote at the bottom. These facts are not in dispute.

Eventually, Jonathan made a difficult choice. Despite his love for football, Jonathan left the Dolphins. Jonathan looks forward to getting back to playing football. In the meantime, he will cooperate fully with the NFL investigation.

Quote from teammate: “We are going to run train on your sister. . . . She loves me. I am going to f–k her without a condom and c– in her c—.”
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Yeah, that'll make him play better football. :spin:

And then there's this not unexpected tidbit...

Police Report: Richie Incognito accused of harassing woman at 2012 charity golf outing

The then 34-year-old volunteer told police that Incognito had been drinking, and when he was at the hole where she was working, he rubbed her privates with a golf club and knocked a pair of sunglasses off her head with it, according to the report.

“After that, he proceeded to lean up against her buttocks with his private parts as if dancing, saying ‘Let it rain! Let it rain!’” the report states. “He finally finished his inappropriate behavior by emptying bottled water in her face.”

The alleged incident occurred on May 18, 2012, at the Turnberry Resort & Club, during the annual “Fins Weekend Golf Tournament” for charity. The volunteer told Local 10, the ABC affiliate, that she can’t talk about the incident because she signed a confidentiality agreement. The Dolphins did not provide comment.
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Had Incogsh!thole done this to my daughter, his piehole would have been introduced to business end of my sand wedge. I have no tolerance for bullies... and I have zero respect for men who stand around and watch a tough guy bully a girl. Spineless. :bat:
 
Playoffs said:
On Thursday night, lawyer David Cornwell issued a statement on behalf of Dolphins tackle Jonathan Martin...

Yeah, that'll make him play better football. :spin:

And then there's this not unexpected tidbit...

Police Report: Richie Incognito accused of harassing woman at 2012 charity golf outing

Had Incogsh!thole done this to my daughter, his piehole would have been introduced to business end of my sand wedge. I have no tolerance for bullies... and I have zero respect for men who stand around and watch a tough guy bully a girl. Spineless. :bat:
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Of note a phins official apologized to the young lady for incognito's actions and this was prior to Incognito's appointment to the leadership team
 
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