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Mario movement rumors (MERGED) Signs with Buffalo $100 million

Ryan said:
Are teams that desperate for a near elite/injury prone pass rusher that they are going to offer him the highest contract for a defensive player ever? I think these national guys are just spewing stuff. Mario is good, but he's not even close to the good Peppers is/was when he hit the open market.
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Mario isn't Peppers or D-Ware, but he has the potential to be.

He could also spend the majority of his time injured.

He's going to get overpaid in a massive way, but that always happens in free agency.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Just heard Mario is taking physical in Buffalo..wouldn't let him leave
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That's a huge step if he's taking a physical. That means it's to the point that IF he passes the physical...a contract gets slapped on the table and he signs it. OR, he's already signed it but there is a clause that it gets voided if he fails a physical.

And folks, he ain't gonna' fail their physical. If they want him bad enough, they'll overlook a few things. No doubt about it. With the money they're putting down on him, they want him THAT badly...he won't fail the physical.
 
I cant knock him for taking the most money, but damn he may never get to play in a playoff game if the Balls dont make some big strides here in the next few seasons. It sucks that he went to another team, I have always been a Mario fan, but the Bills? :mcnugget:
 
JJ Watt will become the big man on Reliant's campus if Bills sign Mario.

He's a vocal leader, he leads from wayyyy out front (just like he did in college), and he went beast mode in the last half of the season and in the playoffs. Hell, he was going bonkers on the Colts all by himself...he was freaking EVERYWHERE all at once but got screwed by the refs.

Defense will be fine. We didn't have the money or the cap space to keep Mario anyways. So we have no choice in the matter. 2011 marked, IMO, a whole new charted course for the Texans--It is a bit spooky how Mario is hurt and lost for the season, but the defense grew stronger each week afterward. The defense outgrew him. Going to the Bills is a good move for more than just one reason.
 
The1ApplePie said:
Mario isn't Peppers or D-Ware, but he has the potential to be.

He could also spend the majority of his time injured.
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Mario accounts for a similar percentage of our teams sacks as those guys... so yeah, he's a Peppers or Ware.

As far as the injury thing goes, I really don't think that will be a problem, he's about to enter his physical prime.
 
Paul Peck ‏ @PeckOnSports
Just saw #Mario Williams at airport. Told me he's here to pick up fiance. Asked what that means. "We'll see."
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Paul Peck ‏ @PeckOnSports
#Mario Williams leaves airport with fiance 10 minutes ago. Headed back to Stadium. Probably good sign.
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GP said:
We didn't have the money or the cap space to keep Mario anyways. So we have no choice in the matter.
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I think there are a few guys here who are raising the red flag this statement points to. Albeit they are saying if we spend the money on Mario Williams, we would be hamstrung as an organization in the future.

HeLLo we are hamstrung now, which tells me that something went wrong. We made bad assumptions, we're paying someone too much.... something.

A week ago, we were thinking we're going into the draft looking at BPA, using FA to add the finishing touches to a potent Super Bowl contender.

Now, we're trying to piece-meal an offensive line in front of the best RB in the NFL.

When we were mediocre, it didn't matter. he could mess up & chances were we'd still be mediocre. Mess up now, & it's a whole other ballgame.

We only thought the 2011 off-season was Rick Smith's most important.
GP said:
2011 marked, IMO, a whole new charted course for the Texans--It is a bit spooky how Mario is hurt and lost for the season, but the defense grew stronger each week afterward. The defense outgrew him. Going to the Bills is a good move for more than just one reason.
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Sell it however you want, whatever makes you feel good. We've just lost the second #1 overall pick in a draft, with no compensation, for the second time in 5 years.

Think about that.


That is of course if he doesn't come back, stranger things have happened.
 
thunderkyss said:
Sell it however you want, whatever makes you feel good. We've just lost the second #1 overall pick in a draft, with no compensation, for the second time in 5 years.

Think about that.
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dude, are you really comparing those two picks? there's a reason we didn't get any compensation for carr... he sucks. we're most likely losing mario because we literally can't afford to keep him. apples and oranges...
 
leebigeztx said:
The bills are gonna have to beat 44m in the 1st 3 yrs. You didn't hear it from me, or maybe you did.
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Are you saying that's what the Texans offered?

If that's true, then they offered him the top of my limit. $14M/yr & he still walked.

Sounds like he didn't want to be a Texan, & it's about the money. No way he should walk on $14M/yr thinking the Texans aren't being "fair"

That is of course if that is what you are saying & what the Texans offered him.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Im not sure why you'd pay that with all of the guys needing contracts next year..Cushing, Brown, etc. I just don't see that much ovr the next 3 years.
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That money has little to do with signing Cushing, Brown, etc... next year. It all depends on how they structure it.

They can give him a $35M bonus over a 5 year contract. with a $1M escalating salary.... his cap hit for the first year would be $8M (same as Demeco & Antonio) for 2012 & increase according to the escalating salary every year after that.

2013 should be another tight year, but after that, the cap will go up.
 
thunderkyss said:
Are you saying that's what the Texans offered?

If that's true, then they offered him the top of my limit. $14M/yr & he still walked.

Sounds like he didn't want to be a Texan, & it's about the money. No way he should walk on $14M/yr thinking the Texans aren't being "fair"

That is of course if that is what you are saying & what the Texans offered him.
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Don't be so sure. He brought his Fiance to Buffalo. Once she gets a load of that place, Buffalo will be crossed off the list. :evil:
 
Texan_Bill said:
Don't be so sure. He brought his Fiance to Buffalo. Once she gets a load of that place, Buffalo will be crossed off the list. :evil:
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Buffalo is purdy country.......


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..... if you're into that sort of thing.
 
thunderkyss said:
Are you saying that's what the Texans offered?

If that's true, then they offered him the top of my limit. $14M/yr & he still walked.

Sounds like he didn't want to be a Texan, & it's about the money. No way he should walk on $14M/yr thinking the Texans aren't being "fair"

That is of course if that is what you are saying & what the Texans offered him.
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Mario should've been signed by now..as he was the top defensive FA & those guys usually go fast so i think something is up & he's still considering Houston imo.


& dont think necessarily like the bolded. Him "walking" might've just been the texans being classy.

After the FO made their pitch to him contract wise, they might've said "look, we don't want you to feel like we're trying to low-ball you or anything & this close to the deadline, it makes no sense for us to try to keep you from finding out what is potentially out there for you. Why don't you go, take a few visits and see what's out there for ya.." just do us a courtesy before you sign anywhere else give us a call to see if we'd like to match.."

The same proposition was likely given to meyers as well b/c he hasn't signed either...ln fact none of our FA's have signed yet.


It's smart by the FO b/c it generates good will with the player & at the same time they & he know they don't really need him.... they'd damn sure would like to have him back though. Too many times players hit FA thinking that the FO is trying to screw them over which almost guarantees that they're leaving. The Texans went about it the opposite way.


The FO is playing possum imo...trying to hide what they offered these guys b/c then it gives these other teams something to shoot for.
 
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Mr teX said:
Mario should've been signed by now..as he was the top defensive FA & those guys usually go fast so i think something is up & he's still considering Houston imo.


& dont think necessarily like the bolded. Him "walking" might've just been the texans being classy.

After the FO made their pitch to him contract wise, they might've said "look, we don't want you to feel like we're trying to low-ball you or anything & this close to the deadline, it makes no sense for us to try to keep you from finding out what is potentially out there for you. Why don't you go, take a few visits and see what's out there for ya.." just do us a courtesy before you sign anywhere else give us a call to see if we'd like to match.."

The same proposition was likely given to meyers as well b/c he hasn't signed either.

The FO is playing possum imo...trying to hide what they offered these guys b/c then it gives these other teams something to shoot for.
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Kuharsky has suggested that the Texans FO has already had their offer on the table and reading into what Mcnair said recently about "We want Mario back but we are working on a limit." tells me they have probably made a offer to him.

If I were to guess, it's probably between Buffalo and Houston. They were saying he would visit another team today but he's still in Buffalo and has flown his Fiance up there with him so I guess we'll see.

Hopefully he'll make his decision soon whatever it may be because he's leaving the Texans waiting around for it.
 
fiasco west said:
Kuharsky has suggested that the Texans FO has already had their offer on the table and reading into what Mcnair said recently about "We want Mario back but we are working on a limit." tells me they have probably made a offer to him.

If I were to guess, it's probably between Buffalo and Houston. They were saying he would visit another team today but he's still in Buffalo and has flown his Fiance up there with him so I guess we'll see.

Hopefully he'll make his decision soon whatever it may be because he's leaving the Texans waiting around for it.
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i'm sure the FO has a time limit on all this...probably another day or so. Kinda like the Aso/JJ thing. If you recall all that, There was talk for about 1-2 days where we heard we were going hard after Aso. Then, almost instantly we heard we signed JJ and we were out of the Aso sweepstakes. The FO decided that they'd had enough of jockeying for position & didn't want to lose out on the other guy they targeted.

Him taking the trip up to buffalo was probably strongly recommended to him by his agent just to hold the Texans FO up to their offer....and to see if Buffalo would offer even more money to him...we should know something by tonite...at the latest tommorrow afternoon.
 
If you were Mario, & the Texans offered you $44M guaranteed over the first three years of a contract & the Bills offered you $50M.... all other things being equal, who would you chose?
 
thunderkyss said:
If you were Mario, & the Texans offered you $44M guaranteed over the first three years of a contract & the Bills offered you $50M.... all other things being equal, who would you chose?
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if i'm legitimately about winning, texans.....plus houston has awesome stripclubs.
 
thunderkyss said:
If you were Mario, & the Texans offered you $44M guaranteed over the first three years of a contract & the Bills offered you $50M.... all other things being equal, who would you chose?
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It all depends on the structure and partially on the total value of the deal. I'll bet Mario didn't think he would earn that 18.3 million in 2011 when he signed his contract five years ago, but he did.
 
Mr teX said:
Mario should've been signed by now..as he was the top defensive FA & those guys usually go fast so i think something is up & he's still considering Houston imo.


& dont think necessarily like the bolded. Him "walking" might've just been the texans being classy.

After the FO made their pitch to him contract wise, they might've said "look, we don't want you to feel like we're trying to low-ball you or anything & this close to the deadline, it makes no sense for us to try to keep you from finding out what is potentially out there for you. Why don't you go, take a few visits and see what's out there for ya.." just do us a courtesy before you sign anywhere else give us a call to see if we'd like to match.."

The same proposition was likely given to meyers as well b/c he hasn't signed either...ln fact none of our FA's have signed yet.


It's smart by the FO b/c it generates good will with the player & at the same time they & he know they don't really need him.... they'd damn sure would like to have him back though. Too many times players hit FA thinking that the FO is trying to screw them over which almost guarantees that they're leaving. The Texans went about it the opposite way.

The FO is playing possum imo...trying to hide what they offered these guys b/c then it gives these other teams something to shoot for.
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Exactly. Its what ozzie newsome does in baltimore. He let's guys look around and they give him a chance to match.
 
Dutchrudder said:
It all depends on the structure and partially on the total value of the deal. I'll bet Mario didn't think he would earn that 18.3 million in 2011 when he signed his contract five years ago, but he did.
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Let's say everything else is equal for this exercise. The only difference is the guaranteed amount.

I know that isn't very likely, just asking.
 
If he is going to sign with Buffalo then go ahead and do it and quit with the dang charades. He is holding the Texans hostage with the little games he is playing with the Bills.

This is really starting to piss me off. Cash your damn check already Mario.
 
I wish he would make a freaking decision! We have money set aside and until he signs somewhere else, we aren't doing anything in the way of signing someone for ourselves.
 
Kimmy said:
I wish he would make a freaking decision! We have money set aside and until he signs somewhere else, we aren't doing anything in the way of signing someone for ourselves.
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I would rather we just moved on and do our own thing anyway, like we did with JoJo instead of Aso. If Mario wants to screw us around then he can enjoy the rest of his career in Buffalo. I hear Lamborghinis handle really well on ice.
 
TexCanada said:
I would rather we just moved on and do our own thing anyway, like we did with JoJo instead of Aso. If Mario wants to screw us around then he can enjoy the rest of his career in Buffalo. I hear Lamborghinis handle really well on ice.
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Me too. Just move on already and use his money to lock up Meyers and Briesel.
 
TexCanada said:
I would rather we just moved on and do our own thing anyway, like we did with JoJo instead of Aso. If Mario wants to screw us around then he can enjoy the rest of his career in Buffalo. I hear Lamborghinis handle really well on ice.
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Until the FA's that we want back sign, I don't expect us to do anything.
 
Pantherstang84 said:
If he is going to sign with Buffalo then go ahead and do it and quit with the dang charades. He is holding the Texans hostage with the little games he is playing with the Bills.

This is really starting to piss me off. Cash your damn check already Mario.
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I think Myers will not make a move until Mario does at least. I think Myers first choice is Houston and I hope both sides will wait this out.

I just hope he's not pulling a Aso and plans to make his decision tomorrow and not at the last moment.
 
Kimmy said:
I wish he would make a freaking decision! We have money set aside and until he signs somewhere else, we aren't doing anything in the way of signing someone for ourselves.
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1) We likely weren't going to be a big player in FA this year so don't get panicky about all these big name FA's signing elsewhere, they likely weren't on our radar to begin with.

2) Trust....the FO isn't letting the situation with Mario hold up negotiations with Meyers & Brisiel; if those guys wanted to be here signed & under contract, they'd be here already as i'm sure the FO has offers on the table for them as well.

Those guys just want more. We know what Meyers is reportedly after & frankly, Im not surprised as his agent is Drew Rosenhaus...dude is notorious for being difficult to work with. Brisiel, well he was probably on the outside looking in to begin with & we don't have any indication that the FO is even looking in his direction.

So what do you think the FO should do? do you think they should just overpay Meyers & Brisiel out of sheer fear of losing them?

3) Whatevers here in FA after all the dust settles from all these big time FA's moving around is likely going to be there in the upcoming weeks.

There's not exactly a whole lot left out there at this point for us to sign now anyway. Noone that's going to make an instant impact on our team anyway.

All of the quality FA WR's have been signed except for Manningham & Doucet.....

& the OL FA pool wasn't all that great to begin with.
 
leebigeztx said:
Mario is about to hop on that plane and come sign his deal.
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Only if they would of listened to Pat Kirwin. :chickendance:

When interviewed, Kyle Williams who escorted Mario around said in talking to Mario Williams he asked what Mario was looking for and Mario said "I just want to be a piece of the puzzle that helps a team get over the hump".

Does that sound like he wants to fly home and sign a contract with us?
 
mussop said:
Only if they would of listened to Pat Kirwin. :chickendance:

When interviewed, Kyle Williams who escorted Mario around said in talking to Mario Williams he asked what Mario was looking for and Mario said "I just want to be a piece of the puzzle that helps a team get over the hump".

Does that sound like he wants to fly home and sign a contract with us?
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Well yeah, up until he hears that his (ex-team's) offense could potentially lose 60% of the offensive line. I'd have teams courting me too.
 
mussop said:
Only if they would of listened to Pat Kirwin. :chickendance:

When interviewed, Kyle Williams who escorted Mario around said in talking to Mario Williams he asked what Mario was looking for and Mario said "I just want to be a piece of the puzzle that helps a team get over the hump".

Does that sound like he wants to fly home and sign a contract with us?
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Uh, yeah it actually kinda does. Dude has always come off as a team player. I dont think he's ever looked to be "the man".

One things for sure, it's a helluva lot more tame than saying something like " i'm trying to get all i can". Or "pay me rick". Or in this case "ralph"
 
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