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Mario movement rumors (MERGED) Signs with Buffalo $100 million

infantrycak said:
Can't blame a guy for setting up his family financially for generations.

Can blame some fans for being such dingleberrys they act like what the rest of the NFL world sees as a great player is really a pedestrian slacker.
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Agree completely on the money. You have to put all of this in perspective. Your employer is saying "go ahead and see what's out there" and someone would love to have you for money that sets you and your family for life. I wouldn't go back to my old employer and say " I'd love to take a lot less to be here."
 
Thorn said:
Well, hindsight will usually give you a better chance of being right almost all the time. Still, I'd take Mario over the other two with present day knowledge. But given what we know now, it would have probably been better to trade down for more picks.
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Casserly said they tried but no takers. Maybe they should have fired Casserly along with Capers & brought in a GM who could make a deal happen? Then we wouldn't have wasted millions more dollars like they did on HWMNBN with nothing left to show for it. :devilpig:
 
Mr teX said:
rep your way....its funny watching people lash out at these guys b/c they're taking more money to go play elsewhere. alot of this same sentiment is happening in the chris meyers thread.....as if they wouldn't do the same thing....ridiculous.
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Not just that, but we threw the most money at Joseph and Manning last year.

That's just the way it goes.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Agree completely on the money. You have to put all of this in perspective. Your employer is saying "go ahead and see what's out there" and someone would love to have you for money that sets you and your family for life. I wouldn't go back to my old employer and say " I'd love to take a lot less to be here."
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People have and people do that all the time. I've done it. It is not always about who pays the most. I have seen lots of colleagues chase the huge pay day only to be laid off less than a year later.

It is about risk vs. reward. However, if the Benjamins is your only motivation, more power to ya and all that stuff. See ya six months later when you come back asking for your old job back.
 
Pantherstang84 said:
People have and people do that all the time. I've done it. It is not always about who pays the most. I have seen lots of colleagues chase the huge pay day only to be laid off less than a year later.

It is about risk vs. reward. However, if the Benjamins is your only motivation, more power to ya and all that stuff. See ya six months later when you come back asking for your old job back.
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Im not saying take it ONLY for the money but if you can set yourself and your family up for life and the differences in sums is that great then you have to look at the situation. He won't be laid off in a year. I just got a new job a law firm here in Chicago. Less pay, better opportunity than I had in this field before. The comparison wasn't literal because obviously these guys get guaranteed money and their new companies don't bust. The point Cak made and I agreed with is that you shouldn't fault guys for trying to set their families up for life when their window is so short. He doesn't owe the Texans a hometown discount and people shouldn't bust his chops for taking more. Your job and opportunities aren't the same.
 
I never had a single doubt in my mind that Mario was going to test fee agency, 100%, and try to land the biggest deal he can.

It makes sense. It's smart. People deluded themselves thinking he was going to scale back and take chump change from us when he's THE hottest ticket in this year's free agency (Even more than Manning, btw. Mario is the top of the class).

It's going to be weird not seeing his mug on Texans stuff. I wonder how long before the texans.com website over there switches out any images they had of him? That'll be weird. End of an era.

I think JJ Watt, and I've said it a bunch of times these past few months, is going to be THE next big thing. I don't even think we truly comprehend the freakish schit that he's going to do. I mean, as a rookie...the dude was beasting out there. The longer he played, the stronger he got and the more tired his opponent became trying to stop him.

JJ Watt is going to be something very, very special here.
 
I think the mario race is over. i say bills win it tonight! money will sway him that way. can buy lots of lambo's for 90 million!
 
hot pickle said:
I think the mario race is over. i say bills win it tonight! money will sway him that way. can buy lots of lambo's for 90 million!
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He'll be playing some games in Canada. You can still go watch him play!

Yeah, man. 90 mill buys you a TON of lambos. For sure.
 
Can't blame him for chasing that kind of dough but the Bills aren't doing anything anytime soon. Buffalo is strictly a money move. Way to forge your legacy, Mario.

Stating the obvious, but now we're faced with drafting/acquiring an OLB, potentially half the OL and oh yeah, a WR. Division is still ripe for the picking but so far, I'm not seeing this team getting any better in the still young offseason.
 
GP said:
I never had a single doubt in my mind that Mario was going to test fee agency, 100%, and try to land the biggest deal he can.

It makes sense. It's smart. People deluded themselves thinking he was going to scale back and take chump change from us when he's THE hottest ticket in this year's free agency (Even more than Manning, btw. Mario is the top of the class).

It's going to be weird not seeing his mug on Texans stuff. I wonder how long before the texans.com website over there switches out any images they had of him? That'll be weird. End of an era.

I think JJ Watt, and I've said it a bunch of times these past few months, is going to be THE next big thing. I don't even think we truly comprehend the freakish schit that he's going to do. I mean, as a rookie...the dude was beasting out there. The longer he played, the stronger he got and the more tired his opponent became trying to stop him.

JJ Watt is going to be something very, very special here.
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I really don't think the Texans offered Mario chump change.

Trust me. Years down the road he will light a fat Monte Cristo with a $100 bill and look down on his naked finger and wonder what might have been. Lot's of men have played this game and gotten rich doing so. Very few have a ring. The one's that do will tell you to a person it means more than the money they made. It is an elite club.

If you think he has a chance to get one in Buffalo, pass the pipe. Not saying it is guaranteed he will get one here but his odds are a lot better.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Im not saying take it ONLY for the money but if you can set yourself and your family up for life and the differences in sums is that great then you have to look at the situation. He won't be laid off in a year. I just got a new job a law firm here in Chicago. Less pay, better opportunity than I had in this field before. The comparison wasn't literal because obviously these guys get guaranteed money and their new companies don't bust. The point Cak made and I agreed with is that you shouldn't fault guys for trying to set their families up for life when their window is so short. He doesn't owe the Texans a hometown discount and people shouldn't bust his chops for taking more. Your job and opportunities aren't the same.
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I think if my rookie deal was for 50+ million, I would be set for life. But then again I probably wouldn't buy a different Lambo for each day of the week either with that dough.
 
friend of mine was saying he wanted a bunch of money an the Bills were going to do it. I said fine, it is ok if that is what he wants. but with all that money he won't win a super bowl. Bills are too far off.
 
Plus, he will be a big fish in a small pond with Buffalo.

He will be THE face of that franchise. He'll be celebrated, for sure.

I wonder what the Bills' message board looks like right now? Reactions.
 
I'm not surprised Williams left in free agency. The Texans didn't have near enough to offer. I am surprised that he's signing with Buffalo. I thought he would go to a contending team. I thought he was tired of losing. I was dead wrong. Looks to me like he's a player who's led around by his agent. I knew the agent would steer Mario to the largest contract. I just didn't think he would sign with a losing team in a dead market.

The Bills haven't won since '04 and haven't been in the playoffs since Wade's boys were bounced out by the Music City Miracle. I think the Chan Gailey used smoke and mirrors to get this team to 6-10 last year. Will Williams make the difference? I doubt it. I also doubt he plays out that contract.
 
He's gonna freeze his azzzzz off, IF he signs with Buffalo! Going from a stadium like Reliant to one of the WORST in the league will be a shocker for Mario. I've been to their stadium, and it sucks!

Not sure he'll get very far in sub zero temps and 20 ft of snow in that lambo he loves so much either. Hell, the City of Houston even allowed him to run his friggin car at Ellington!

BUT, MONEY seems to be more important to some of these guys these days than truly trying to help a team win a SB. He's got a good thing going here in Houston, has made plenty of money to secure the future for his family, and I bet the Texans are not offering him chump change to stay. BUT, that's not good enough. Hope he freezes his nuts off!!:snowday:
 
See ya MaIRo!!!!!!

I understand taking the money, so I hope he will understand when I say don't let the door hit you on the way out.
 
Lucky said:
I'm not surprised Williams left in free agency. The Texans didn't have near enough to offer. I am surprised that he's signing with Buffalo. I thought he would go to a contending team. I thought he was tired of losing. I was dead wrong. Looks to me like he's a player who's led around by his agent. I knew the agent would steer Mario to the largest contract. I just didn't think he would sign with a losing team in a dead market.

The Bills haven't won since '04 and haven't been in the playoffs since Wade's boys were bounced out by the Music City Miracle. I think the Chan Gailey used smoke and mirrors to get this team to 6-10 last year. Will Williams make the difference? I doubt it. I also doubt he plays out that contract.
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[/thread] 100% agree.
 
I don't know if anyone has referenced this, but this has a feel of when Beltran left Houston. I don't think there's any way Mario's going to be able to live up to the expectations much like Beltran wasn't able to. He'll be a pretty good player for them much like Carlos was for the Mets, but I'm not sure he'll come close to meeting the expectations that are about to come with the monstrous contract he's about to sign.

I'm in the camp that can't blame him for taking the money, but he's in for a rude awakening heading to Buffalo. I don't think the 2 cities could be any more different. If that's what he decides to do then I'll hope that he excels. He's a good guy and handled all of the criticism that was thrown his way after the draft in a 1st class manner.
 
michaelm said:
per Jason La Canfora
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A follow up on that as well.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/13/report-mario-williams-leaving-buffalo-without-signing-will-visit-others/


The Buffalo Bills appear to have fallen short in their quest to make a big splash on the opening day of free agency with the biggest free agent contract ever given to a defensive player.

Instead, Mario Williams will leave Buffalo without signing and has scheduled a visit with at least one other team, Jason La Canfora of NFL Network reports.

So Williams, this year’s top free agent outside Peyton Manning, will continue to look around. What we don’t know is whether his decision to leave Buffalo is an indication that he didn’t like Buffalo’s financial offer, that he didn’t like what he heard from the Bills’ football people, or if he simply wants to take his time and weigh other offers.

Among the teams that are reportedly still hoping to get an audience with Williams are the Bears and the Titans. Some team will almost certainly make Williams the highest-paid defensive player in NFL history, and that team might be the Bills. But it won’t be today.
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Maybe Mario finding out he is not as highly sought after as he thought. Either that are they are including incentives that have to do with him actually having to play.

Whatever he decides I hope it is soon because I am beginning to think Smith is sitting on his hands waiting for Mario to decide. Last year he pulled the trigger and got both JJ and Manning and did not get caught holding the bag waiting for Aso. Hopefully he does the same thing this year.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Im not sure why you'd pay that with all of the guys needing contracts next year..Cushing, Brown, etc. I just don't see that much ovr the next 3 years.
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44m to a high revenue team like houston is different than 44m to buffalo or jaguars.Why? Signing bonus. I've detailed this many times and this was part of the cba fight. Large revenue vs small revenue. Of that 44m guarantee, mcnair can can give him a 36m check in the form of a signing bonus. Spread the 36 over 6yrs, 6m per yr and a 3m salary for this yr. That 39m in his pocket this yr and a 9m cap charge. In yr 2, 6m salry,12m cap charge, that. 45m in the 1st 2 yrs of the deal. Yr 3 would be another 6m, 12m cap charge, 57m in 1st 3yrs of deal. The rest is funny money, but u get the picture.
 
gafftop said:
Whatever he decides I hope it is soon because I am beginning to think Smith is sitting on his hands waiting for Mario to decide. Last year he pulled the trigger and got both JJ and Manning and did not get caught holding the bag waiting for Aso. Hopefully he does the same thing this year.
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Good point. Smith has proven that inaction is no reason to panic. He earned a lot of benefit of the doubt after last season.
 
Pantherstang84 said:
So ixnay on Uffalobay. Hmmmm. Maybe it is not just about the $$$$$$$. You have to think the reason Rosenhouse took him there was because they were making the biggest offer.
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Williams' agent is Ben Dogra. But, I'm sure you're right that Buffalo is setting the bar.

gafftop said:
Maybe Mario finding out he is not as highly sought after as he thought.
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Huh? It's rumored that Williams is being offered the largest contract ever for a defender.
 
my dad just said mario was traded to the bills he was watching ABC 13 news prob or NFLN i was like Wut then checked NFL.com nothing WTF is going on LOL
 
Texn4life said:
I don't know if anyone has referenced this, but this has a feel of when Beltran left Houston. I don't think there's any way Mario's going to be able to live up to the expectations much like Beltran wasn't able to. He'll be a pretty good player for them much like Carlos was for the Mets, but I'm not sure he'll come close to meeting the expectations that are about to come with the monstrous contract he's about to sign.

I'm in the camp that can't blame him for taking the money, but he's in for a rude awakening heading to Buffalo. I don't think the 2 cities could be any more different. If that's what he decides to do then I'll hope that he excels. He's a good guy and handled all of the criticism that was thrown his way after the draft in a 1st class manner.
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If he is going to Buffalo, than he knows exactly what he is getting into. He is getting into a huge pay day on a team that will most likely not contend for a while. He'll be after a huge pay day, and that is fine. I can't blame him. It won't be a surprise either, because Mario likes Lambo's, he likes to party, and he'll be able to do a lot of that even more once he gets another huge contract that is inflated. I can't knock him one bit for wanting to get his money though. Fans that moan about that are so out of touch to me. I felt no differently about Beltran and still love that guy for what he did in the post season in Houston even until this day. He was a total stud for the few months that he was here. the majority of athletes biggest motivation will always be money.
 
Mario agent is trying to wait and Find da highest bidder ............ Hes good has gone guyz LOL

Looks like Mario is trying to get Dat Payday and could care less about staying with the texans
 
GP said:
He'll be playing some games in Canada. You can still go watch him play!

Yeah, man. 90 mill buys you a TON of lambos. For sure.
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thats in toronto lol houston is closer to me than toronto is. who wants to watch the bills anyways lol

:texan:
 
Are teams that desperate for a near elite/injury prone pass rusher that they are going to offer him the highest contract for a defensive player ever? I think these national guys are just spewing stuff. Mario is good, but he's not even close to the good Peppers is/was when he hit the open market.
 
Ryan said:
Are teams that desperate for a near elite/injury prone pass rusher that they are going to offer him the highest contract for a defensive player ever? I think these national guys are just spewing stuff. Mario is good, but he's not even close to the good Peppers is/was when he hit the open market.
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Peppers was 30 when he signed that contract, Mario is 27 the age when players are suppose to be in their prime.
 
MojoX said:
Naww, I don't blame him. It is a brutal sport. The man should get paid while he can, before his body gives out. I'll pull for the guy every down he isn't lining up against the Texans.
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If you root for anyone on the Jaguars or the Titans....that's sick. Let alone a guy like Mario Williams, with his history here.

Him going to Jacksoffville or Tennessee is treasonous.
 
SheTexan said:
He's gonna freeze his azzzzz off,

BUT, MONEY seems to be more important to some of these guys these days
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I know he's more than likely not coming back to Houston, the money is going to be insane. But, just because he is visiting Buffalo, doesn't mean he's going to Buffalo.

I also don't know why we would think Buffalo has no shot. They were one of the hottest things going last year. & we were one of the worst the year before, & so was the 49ers & Detroit.

If Mario is only a piece of what they've got planned for this off-season, who knows what they'll be able to acomplish?
 
thunderkyss said:
I know he's more than likely not coming back to Houston, the money is going to be insane. But, just because he is visiting Buffalo, doesn't mean he's going to Buffalo.

I also don't know why we would think Buffalo has no shot. They were one of the hottest things going last year. & we were one of the worst the year before, & so was the 49ers & Detroit.

If Mario is only a piece of what they've got planned for this off-season, who knows what they'll be able to acomplish?
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Agree. Buffalo started hot last year. They have some talent on O and a young, aggressive D. Their issue is that division but I see no reason why they can't jump up like all the other teams that have.
 
Texecutioner said:
If he is going to Buffalo, than he knows exactly what he is getting into. He is getting into a huge pay day on a team that will most likely not contend for a while. He'll be after a huge pay day, and that is fine. I can't blame him. It won't be a surprise either, because Mario likes Lambo's, he likes to party, and he'll be able to do a lot of that even more once he gets another huge contract that is inflated. I can't knock him one bit for wanting to get his money though. Fans that moan about that are so out of touch to me. I felt no differently about Beltran and still love that guy for what he did in the post season in Houston even until this day. He was a total stud for the few months that he was here. the majority of athletes biggest motivation will always be money.
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The majority of humanity, you mean.
 
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