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Mario Hurt - Out for Season

SI's Peter King reported on Football Night in America Sunday that Mario Williams "probably" tore his pectoral muscle in the Texans' Week 5 loss to the Raiders.
He'll have a Monday MRI.

Didnt he also report after the Saints game that Walter broke his collarbone and would be out 8-10 weeks?
 
McClain_on_NFL John McClain
Williams and Casey suffered torn pectoral muscles, not biceps. They're hoping they don't require surgery.
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In a previous thread I gave an O/U of 8 before Mario got hurt.

Anybody who took the under stand up and be counted.

This is about 14 mil wasted.
 
Its hard to be a fan of Houston teams lately.

Injury ridden stars, a baseball team that set a franchise record for losses, the NBA lockout...

What's next?

There is a black cloud over this Texan team at the moment IMO
 
Bad form, my friend. MW was earning his money, so no reason to cheapen that. This is a big blow for the team and fanbase.
 
In a previous thread I gave an O/U of 8 before Mario got hurt.

Anybody who took the under stand up and be counted.

This is about 14 mil wasted.

Seriously? He has done a very good job on his new position;

G GS Comb Total Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int FF
5 5 11 10 1 5.0 -- 1 -- 1

He gets hurt and it's a waste of 14mil? I don't think so .... Wanna see some wasted money ... start looking at Jacoby Jones
 
Out of the big name players, Schaub has been the most injury free the past couple of years. Who would have thunk it.
 
The most snake bitten franchise ever. I've never seen anything like this before ever. The injury is already freaky enough, but it happening twice in one day to two people on the same team. You've got to be kidding me.:toropalm:
 
The most snake bitten franchise ever. I've never seen anything like this before ever. The injury is already freaky enough, but it happening twice in one day to two people on the same team. You've got to be kidding me.:toropalm:

Also happened to Tavaris Jackson today as well
 
In a previous thread I gave an O/U of 8 before Mario got hurt.

Anybody who took the under stand up and be counted.

This is about 14 mil wasted.

No this is about perfectly good thread space wasted on crap like this, dude is a 2 time pro-bowl DE, he has earned his 14 mil. At least EVERYBODY IN THE NFL thinks so...
 
No this is about perfectly good thread space wasted on crap like this, dude is a 2 time pro-bowl DE, he has earned his 14 mil. At least EVERYBODY IN THE NFL thinks so...

We will have to agree to disagree.

14 mil for 5 games is $$$$ wasted.

This is what people in the trade MW camp were talking about. He has a bad injury history. So this shouldn't be suprising to anybody.

PS, How do you know what everybody in the NFL thinks? Do you have insde the NFL sources. If so PM me you dont have to tell me whothey are. But I want to know what these sources think about other players/team management.
 
We will have to agree to disagree.

14 mil for 5 games is $$$$ wasted.

This is what people in the trade MW camp were talking about. He has a bad injury history. So this shouldn't be suprising to anybody.

Like I said, only a waste to arm chair GM's not those who ACTUALLY know what the hell they are talking about....
 
We will have to agree to disagree.

14 mil for 5 games is $$$$ wasted.

This is what people in the trade MW camp were talking about. He has a bad injury history. So this shouldn't be suprising to anybody.

PS, How do you know what everybody in the NFL thinks? Do you have insde the NFL sources. If so PM me you dont have to tell me whothey are. But I want to know what these sources think about other players/team management.

All you have to do is tune in to those who have played the game. I'll take their opinion over ANYBODY who has never played on that level before....
 
Like I said, only a waste to arm chair GM's not those who ACTUALLY know what the hell they are talking about....

MW injuries

1.Feet
2.Groin
3.Shoulder
4.Pectoral

Are you starting to se a trend here?

Armchair or not the facts dont support your argument. Sorry.... wish I and many others were wrong. Believe me I get no pleasure in pointing this out. But felt it was relevent.
 
Its hard to be a fan of Houston teams lately.

Injury ridden stars, a baseball team that set a franchise record for losses, the NBA lockout...

What's next?

There is a black cloud over this Texan team at the moment IMO

Still early in the season. Injuries are part of the game.

This...... times like this,

this is what separates the good coaches from the.... :toropalm:

you're right, we're ****ed.
 
MW injuries

1.Feet
2.Groin
3.Shoulder
4.Pectoral

Are you starting to se a trend here?

Armchair or not the facts dont support your argument. Sorry.... wish I and many others were wrong. Believe me I get no pleasure in pointing this out. But felt it was relevent.

He has had those injuries, but he played through a lot of them and I have to give him his due so far this season in a new system and position.

I would consider it more of a waste were he to T-Mac or Yao it up which he is not close to doing yet.
 
MW injuries

1.Feet
2.Groin
3.Shoulder
4.Pectoral

Are you starting to se a trend here?

Armchair or not the facts dont support your argument. Sorry.... wish I and many others were wrong. Believe me I get no pleasure in pointing this out. But felt it was relevent.

1 - sacks
2 - tackles
3 - assist
4 - forced fumbles

All in one year. His injuries are spread out over 5 years. In a brutal contact sport no less.

/end thread
 
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Attack the post not the poster.

Is MW's injury history not true?

Sure he has an injury history, but he has always played through it. His numbers are still good and he is still productive. He maybe injured but he doesn't miss too many games. This will probably be his first extended absence during the season.
 
We will have to agree to disagree.

14 mil for 5 games is $$$$ wasted.

This is what people in the trade MW camp were talking about. He has a bad injury history. So this shouldn't be suprising to anybody.

PS, How do you know what everybody in the NFL thinks? Do you have insde the NFL sources. If so PM me you dont have to tell me whothey are. But I want to know what these sources think about other players/team management.

lets count the money AJ is making and he has missed just as many games in the last 2 seasons as M.W actually more.
 
lets count the money AJ is making and he has missed just as many games in the last 2 seasons as M.W actually more.

Along with Gary

I believe the inability of the Texans star players to stay healthy is a main factor in the Texans ability to get over the .500 hump. It's a real issue and I believe that Gary/Texans training staff/Medical Staff have all greatly contributed to this issue.
 
Along with Gary

I believe the inability of the Texans star players to stay healthy is a main factor in the Texans ability to get over the .500 hump. It's a real issue and I believe that Gary/Texans training staff/Medical Staff have all greatly contributed to this issue.

OK but how do you say we are wasting 14 mil a year on mario when AJ is making more and has sat out more but you say nothing about the money were spending on him ????
 
So, when do the Cowher signatures come back? Nothing you can really do about injuries, but Kubiak is not a good enough HC to will his team to more wins while the team goes through this injury bug.
 
MW injuries

1.Feet
2.Groin
3.Shoulder
4.Pectoral

Are you starting to se a trend here?

Armchair or not the facts dont support your argument. Sorry.... wish I and many others were wrong. Believe me I get no pleasure in pointing this out. But felt it was relevent.

Sounds like that song, "Wipe me Down."
"Shoulders, Chest, Pants, Shoes"
 
OK but how do you say we are wasting 14 mil a year on mario when AJ is making more and has sat out more but you say nothing about the money were spending on him ????

Same holds true for both.

But the difference is AJ is signed to a long term contract.

After this season a decision is going to have to be made on signing MW to a long term contract. I personally hope they dont spend the $$$$ on MW. It would be better spent on a true play making WR and a competent CB in FA. IMHO. Then as rmartin suggested a DE/OLB could be drafted high in the draft. This is a great yr for DE/OLB in the draft.

And said DE/OLB should have a better injury history than MW. This is if Reed doesn't have a really good yr this yr. Which I believe he can. This is just thinking outside the box.
 
In a previous thread I gave an O/U of 8 before Mario got hurt.

Anybody who took the under stand up and be counted.

This is about 14 mil wasted.

I have been a big critic of Mario in the past, but this season he has been showing up and doing really well in this new 3-4 with Wade. No reason to **** on him right now for that Steelbtexan. I do understand what you're saying about a history of getting nicked up and all, but not exactly injured for entire seasons. He was playing his ass off before this happened though, so I see now reason to bash the guy right now bud.
 
Same holds true for both.

But the difference is AJ is signed to a long term contract.

After this season a decision is going to have to be made on signing MW to a long term contract. I personally hope they dont spend the $$$$ on MW. It would be better spent on a true play making WR and a competent CB in FA. IMHO. Then as rmartin suggested a DE/OLB could be drafted high in the draft. This is a great yr for DE/OLB in the draft.

And said DE/OLB should have a better injury history than MW. This is if Reed doesn't have a really good yr this yr. Which I believe he can. This is just thinking outside the box.

OK so what ur saying is that it was dumb for the texans to sign AJ long term cause when they did he had already missed 8 career games. So the FO messed that one up.

I'm sorry but you dont let a talent like Mario just walk without atleast trying to sign him to a long term deal.
 
We will have to agree to disagree.

14 mil for 5 games is $$$$ wasted.

This is what people in the trade MW camp were talking about. He has a bad injury history. So this shouldn't be suprising to anybody.

PS, How do you know what everybody in the NFL thinks? Do you have insde the NFL sources. If so PM me you dont have to tell me whothey are. But I want to know what these sources think about other players/team management.

Ur playing the what if game now, because im pretty positive that if he hadnt gotten injured and played all 16 games or most of the 16 game at the end of the season, ull prob be on ur knees in front of MW (not saying the rest). He has put up great numbers thus far, and how do you even know that he's out for the season? He pulled a chest muscle....
 
I'm just saying that the $$$$ would be better spent in FA on a WR like Jordy Nelson and a FA CB like Carlos Rodgers than MW. Then you can draft BPA in the draft. I also belive Reed is going to do the job in place of MW.

Maybe not be the impact player MW is but a very credible job.
 
I'm just saying that the $$$$ would be better spent in FA on a WR like Jordy Nelson and a FA CB like Carlos Rodgers than MW. Then you can draft BPA in the draft. I also belive Reed is going to do the job in place of MW.

Maybe not be the impact player MW is but a very credible job.

i have to disagree i say resign Mario to a long term deal draft a big physical WR in the 1st/2nd. Mario is the heart and soul of our D line what did brooks do today when he took marios spot ? Nothing that impacted the game, hell mario had a sack right before his injury
 
So, when do the Cowher signatures come back? Nothing you can really do about injuries, but Kubiak is not a good enough HC to will his team to more wins while the team goes through this injury bug.

I say we have voodoo parties & put hexes on the teams remaining on our schedule.

:voodoo:
 
i have to disagree i say resign Mario to a long term deal draft a big physical WR in the 1st/2nd. Mario is the heart and soul of our D line what did brooks do today when he took marios spot ? Nothing that impacted the game, hell mario had a sack right before his injury

I respect this and it's probably the way the Texans will go. In fact franchising MW and trading him would be the way to go. I just want a guy that can be counted on to play 16 games. Reed will end up being a good player by the end of the yr. IMHO

Plus you can use the $$$$ to fill more holes. This all depends on if Rick/Gary keep their jobs.
 
I respect this and it's probably the way the Texans will go. In fact franchising MW and trading him would be the way to go. I just want a guy that can be counted on to play 16 . Reed will end up being a good player by the end of the yr. IMHO

Plus you can use the $$$$ to fill more holes. This all depends on if Rick/Gary keep their jobs.

Again though dont be biased. AJ is on the top of that cant perform 16 games list. When Mario is in the game he is a force to be reckoned with. Up till this point he has only missed 3 career games and that was ALL at the end of last season. other than that he has played all 16 games every season.

i do see what ur saying BUT using the excuse about him always missing games because of injuries is not valid. May he be injured, sure but he usually plays through them.
 
Brooks Reed looked lost out there. When GlassHalfFull saw me at halftime in the concourse area, she told me Mario was out.

I began watching to see how Reed would turn out, playing Mario's place out there. To me, he looked lost out there.

Mario in, things were too hot for Campbell to handle. Mario out, he had time to make throws and the defense was on their heels a lot.

HOWEVER......

Do you tie up your financial resources in Mario Williams after this season? How do the dollars for Mario's new contract affect what we can do elsewhere? The Texans are going to have to make some tough decisions.

I think the team is about to hit that magical wall they always hit, where they start thinking about the old "Geez, we suck. Wonder if I'll be here next year?" scenarios.

We got beat by The Janitor's leg and a fake punt. And Schaub's patented "Doh!" moments. It was a Bermuda Triangle of Doh!
 
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