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He's 20 yrs old. The current Heisman Trophy winner. Comes from a rich family. Every single one of us would think we were the **** of the walk in that situation. I'm sure he's a jerk in person but just remember, winning cures everything.
 
PapaL said:
Pretty simple in my book; you can't talk crap when your team is losing. Oh boy wanted to talk and was punked. It's not talking **** if you can back it up. Manziel did just that today. You don't have to like it or him but the dude can play.
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Its always talking **** whether u can back it up or not...matter fact, it looks worse when u win....ESPECIALLY when you're expected to win b/c you have nothing to gain by doing it. Im with the other guy in this thread in that i dont see anything special about his play. Keenum put up monstrous numbers in this system too.....with less talent around him.
 
htowntexans1985 said:
Against Freaking Rice bro. Rice. We're talking about freaking Rice! He's probably going to kill Sam Houston next week too. Let him do it against top s.e.c. team this season before we crown him the second coming of Joe Namath.
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???

He won the Heisman last year. He can play, are you really doubting that?
 
htowntexans1985 said:
Against Freaking Rice bro. Rice. We're talking about freaking Rice! He's probably going to kill Sam Houston next week too. Let him do it against top s.e.c. team this season before we crown him the second coming of Joe Namath.
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Just because I think the kid can play & enjoy watching him play, doesn't mean I think he's the second coming of anybody.

So get yer panties out of your wad & get those SEC nutts off yer chin & just watch it be what it be.
 
htowntexans1985 said:
Against Freaking Rice bro. Rice. We're talking about freaking Rice! He's probably going to kill Sam Houston next week too. Let him do it against top s.e.c. team this season before we crown him the second coming of Joe Namath.
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Does the Alabama game not count? Did it to them in their own stadium.

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Mr teX said:
Its always talking **** whether u can back it up or not...matter fact, it looks worse when u win....ESPECIALLY when you're expected to win b/c you have nothing to gain by doing it. Im with the other guy in this thread in that i dont see anything special about his play. Keenum put up monstrous numbers in this system too.....with less talent around him.
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Keenum also did it in a weaker conference but let's just ignore that right?
 
PapaL said:
Keenum also did it in a weaker conference but let's just ignore that right?
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Never said ignore it, just saying that we've seen qbs put up numbers in this system and similar systems over the years before and that doesnt make him a special nor great player in my eyes..unless of course your saying that those 10- 12 tds and other stats he accumulated against those little sisters of the poor teams dont count. without those numbers he probably doesnt win the heisman so he benefited just like Keenum did...maybe not as much but he still benefited.

Edit: just under 1/2 of his total tds at 22 came against non-bcs teams...
 
Oh No:vincepalm:

Not this **it again.

I had hoped that Aggie was immune to VY syndrome, figured they of all people would have put up a better resistance to this horrible affliction.

Please please please; if the Texans don't draft Manziel - please just accept it and move one. Pretty please.
 
Mr teX said:
Never said ignore it, just saying that we've seen qbs put up numbers in this system and similar systems over the years before and that doesnt make him a special nor great player in my eyes..unless of course your saying that those 10- 12 tds and other stats he accumulated against those little sisters of the poor teams dont count. without those numbers he probably doesnt win the heisman so he benefited just like Keenum did...maybe not as much but he still benefited.
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I'm not saying he didn't benefit. You're the one claiming "less talent around him". I'm merely pointing out that Keenum played in a WAY weaker conference. 345 yards against the best defense and top tanked team is what cemented Maziel's Heisman...that and facing 6 ranked teams last season.

How many Heisman's did Keenum win in his 6 years as an NCAA QB?
 
PapaL said:
I'm not saying he didn't benefit. You're the one claiming "less talent around him". I'm merely pointing out that Keenum played in a WAY weaker conference. 345 yards against the best defense and top tanked team is what cemented Maziel's Heisman...that and facing 6 ranked teams last season.

How many Heisman's did Keenum win in his 6 years as an NCAA QB?
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The only game he looked like a heisman candidate was the bama game...all the other games against the sec ranked teams he looked average to below average.

The bama game played its role, but people were already propping him up as a candidate largely b/c of his numbers citing Cam Newton's heisman campaign numbers.. Either way are u really gonna deny that keenum had less talent around him than manziel?

what exactly does keenum's inability to win a heisman prove anyway? Voter bias against the smaller conferences? The heisman's been a joke for years now anyway... Really since they've made it an offensive award and Suh got robbed. For Keenum to even get in the convo for Hiesman was a monumental feat in and of itself comsidering the what he was up against with the voters..
 
thunderkyss said:
Just because I think the kid can play & enjoy watching him play, doesn't mean I think he's the second coming of anybody.

So get yer panties out of your wad & get those SEC nutts off yer chin & just watch it be what it be.
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Lol. I don't like any SEC team. Just saying the kid is a train wreck waiting to happen. That's why people like yourself tune in.
 
Wow. Some of you people have straight up lost your minds. If he beats 'Bama nobody gives a **** what kind of penalty he got against Rice today. I'm not completely against drafting a high round QB and I hope that Manziel does well enough that we don't have worry about whether the Texans draft him or not.
 
Personally, I don't have a problem with much of what he did. I think it was stupid, but football is a game of passion. Part of what makes Manziel so good is his erratic behavior and his passion. He wants to win, and he wants to embarrass you while doing it. If that makes him a better football player, I'm all for it. How many of us would be arrogant pieces of dung if we had his God given athletic abilities?

I think he is sick of people giving him a hard time about everything he does. Before the autograph thing people were drilling him about his partying. He is living the life of a rock star and if we were in his position, most of us would be living it up too! As long as none of this effects his play on the field, who the f cares?!?
 
Say Watt said:
Personally, I don't have a problem with much of what he did. I think it was stupid, but football is a game of passion. Part of what makes Manziel so good is his erratic behavior and his passion. He wants to win, and he wants to embarrass you while doing it. If that makes him a better football player, I'm all for it. How many of us would be arrogant pieces of dung if we had his God given athletic abilities?

I think he is sick of people giving him a hard time about everything he does. Before the autograph thing people were drilling him about his partying. He is living the life of a rock star and if we were in his position, most of us would be living it up too! As long as none of this effects his play on the field, who the f cares?!?
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Excellent.

MSR.
 
What was A&M football before Manziel?

How many confrence championships has Sumlin won?
 
I just find it really amusing how ESPN is now claiming to be some kind of moral compass. A football player talking a little trash. He's such a terrible human being! He is a spoiled brat, but all this fuss is stupid IMO.

Edit: Damn steelbtexan I swear I wrote this message without even seeing yours. Crazy how we were thinking the exact same thing though.
 
steelbtexan said:
What was A&M football before Manziel?

How many confrence championships has Sumlin won?
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What are you on about? A&M Football has been good, decent, never particularly spectacular before Manziel. They've had good years and bad years, but it's not like they were some crap program that came out of nowhere with Manziel.
 
htownfan32 said:
What are you on about? A&M Football has been good, decent, never particularly spectacular before Manziel. They've had good years and bad years, but it's not like they were some crap program that came out of nowhere with Manziel.
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You mean avg to below avg for a decade?

Weren't even on the national radar? Where was ESPN before JM?

Before JM what was their highest national ranking? With JM top 10. When was the last time A&M was ranked in the top 10? Slocum yrs, and even then they didn't get the type of exposure the JM is bringing them.

Is he a cocky turd? Probably

Is he the best thing that has happened to A&M football in 50 yrs. Yep. The funny thing is that some at A&M would rather have a medicore football team than have a guy like JM leading their team. Be careful of what they wish for. I mean it's only been half a century since John David Crow called College Station home. (The last time A&M was truly relevant on the college football scene.) Yes I remember the Wrecking Crew yrs. But they were never true NC contenders that teams of the caliber of Alabama respected. Now they are. Why 1 reason Johnny Football.
 
The Rice Football player Johnny Manziel was talking to said Manizel just told him "nice hit"
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Nick Elder @NickElder1
@espn I was the one who johnny was talking too. He said "what's up nick, nice hit." True story
 
PapaL said:
The Rice Football player Johnny Manziel was talking to said Manizel just told him "nice hit"
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that was not the play that got the flag
 
Heath Shuler said:
that was not the play that got the flag
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That's correct....... It was on the play where he did his little signature thing in the air. On the one where he got the penalty, we used to tell guys to look at the scoreboard all the time when they were talking trash to us. He's under a microscope right now so it wasn't smart for him to do it in front of 2 refs, but it's not that big of a deal. I like the way he carries himself on the field personally. I think the word swagger gets overused, but thats exactly what he gives that team.
 
steelbtexan said:
You mean avg to below avg for a decade?

Weren't even on the national radar? Where was ESPN before JM?

Before JM what was their highest national ranking? With JM top 10. When was the last time A&M was ranked in the top 10? Slocum yrs, and even then they didn't get the type of exposure the JM is bringing them.

Is he a cocky turd? Probably

Is he the best thing that has happened to A&M football in 50 yrs. Yep. The funny thing is that some at A&M would rather have a medicore football team than have a guy like JM leading their team. Be careful of what they wish for. I mean it's only been half a century since John David Crow called College Station home. (The last time A&M was truly relevant on the college football scene.) Yes I remember the Wrecking Crew yrs. But they were never true NC contenders that teams of the caliber of Alabama respected. Now they are. Why 1 reason Johnny Football.
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I summed up basically everything you said in much less - good years, bad years, decent team. Perhaps not nationally exposed, but they were decent.

I'm not arguing that Johnny Manziel didn't put A&M's name on the map, but lets not pretend A&M football was like some division II program no one had ever heard of either. I don't think we'd be in national title contention prior to Manziel, but the switch to the SEC and Manziel's success has brewed the perfect storm in winning A&M some great recruiting ammo. If A&M can capitalize on this success, they'll be good to great for years, without Manziel.

After this year, their fresh young defense will be experienced. The offense is beyond stacked, and Kyle Allen will be on campus eventually. A&M holds the cards, they just have to not screw up in playing them.
 
I've had it up to here already with this Johnny Football BS. I frankly could care less what he does on the field anymore.

Some of you take a good look at previous posts on this thread. What does it say about a player when the discussion involves more about his classless antics than what he does on the field?

Yes, he's 20 years old. BFD! At this age, the are a number of things that a football player needs to work on, but maturity shouldn't be one of them.

Congratulations Johhny Manziel! A freaking sophomore in college, and you managed to beat out VY on how quickly I can forever hate a player. I didn't think that was possible.
 
Marcus said:
I've had it up to here already with this Johnny Football BS. I frankly could care less what he does on the field anymore.

Some of you take a good look at previous posts on this thread. What does it say about a player when the discussion involves more about his classless antics than what he does on the field?

Yes, he's 20 years old. BFD! At this age, the are a number of things that a football player needs to work on, but maturity shouldn't be one of them.

Congratulations Johhny Manziel! A freaking sophomore in college, and you managed to beat out VY on how quickly I can forever hate a player. I didn't think that was possible.
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Bitter?

And this comes from an unabashed Longhorn fan.

I just think it's wierd that A&M finally after half century is relevant and A&M fans dont seem to be able to enjoy it. This makes me LOL.
 
Marcus said:
Congratulations Johhny Manziel! A freaking sophomore in college, and you managed to beat out VY on how quickly I can forever hate a player. I didn't think that was possible.
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He's not the one making a big deal of it. He's just being a kid. It's the idiots with nothing better to do that puts this stuff in the papers, on the news, on the net, etc... then read it & make it a big deal & a big part of their lives.
 
thunderkyss said:
He's not the one making a big deal of it. He's just being a kid. It's the idiots with nothing better to do that puts this stuff in the papers, on the news, on the net, etc... then read it & make it a big deal & a big part of their lives.
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BS on top of BS. Thousands of guys have been college football heros and didn't act like total a-holes. In fact, many of them (particularly QBs) know the attention is focused on them and try to act like choir boys. Instead he is going out of his way to piss people off. He is acting like Justin Bieber with shoulder pads.
 
infantrycak said:
BS on top of BS. Thousands of guys have been college football heros and didn't act like total a-holes. In fact, many of them (particularly QBs) know the attention is focused on them and try to act like choir boys. Instead he is going out of his way to piss people off. He is acting like Justin Bieber with shoulder pads.
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Exactly.

You know how much pressure guys go through playing QB at schools with higher expectations than even A&M? Alot of these guys are 19 years old and handle it extremely well. All this "he's just a kid" talk is BS. He's just an *******.
 
steelbtexan said:
Bitter?

And this comes from an unabashed Longhorn fan.

I just think it's wierd that A&M finally after half century is relevant and A&M fans dont seem to be able to enjoy it. This makes me LOL.
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I'm gonna have to agree with most of what you're saying, SteelB. He's putting A&M up there.

Though with the bolded, I know it seems like that on the internet, but all of Kyle Field chanting "JOHNNY, JOHNNY!" when he came on after half-time indicates otherwise.

Again, I have two opinions of Manziel. As a person off the field, that opinion is not very high. However, he is his own person and he can do whatever the damn hell he likes. Should he be responsible? Definitely. Should he behave in a more mature manner? Of course. However, he is his own person and I'm sure none of us in his place would appreciate being told what to do by complete strangers who only have an interest in regulating his fame. I'm not making excuses for him, because he really does behave like a tool. He shouldn't, but he does. Whatever.

As a person on the field, that opinion is very damn high. The guy makes plays. He wins. I don't care if his skill set doesn't translate into the NFL, or that he's a system baby, or that he's a cocky, abrasive player who taunts opponents and goads them on. Am I going to ride his jock (a la some people with VY) and say we should draft him? Hell no, I think he has nothing that the Texans want. I am never going to ***** about him leading our college football team, or how he behaves on the field so long as he produces video game numbers and we go 1-0 every week. Johnny Football is an entirely different person in my mind from Johnny Partyboy.
 
I am disappointed with how many people are buying into the ESPN crap. They have an agenda and are going overboard perusing it.

Ags have Johnny's back. Don't doubt that. Squeaky wheels aside.
 
Did y'all know Aaron Rodgers was doing that discount double check thing back in college?
 
steelbtexan said:
Bitter?

And this comes from an unabashed Longhorn fan.

I just think it's wierd that A&M finally after half century is relevant and A&M fans dont seem to be able to enjoy it. This makes me LOL.
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I'm neither a Longhorn or an A&M fan. I could care less about either of those two schools. He could be the QB of Whateverthe****youcallit State. He's still being a petulant, arrogant ******** on and off the field. What makes him so special, that he couldn't be like all the rest of the kids his age, and show a little bit of humility and class?

He's damaged goods, and he's got nobody to blame but himself.
 
GlassHalfFull said:
I am disappointed with how many people are buying into the ESPN crap. They have an agenda and are going overboard perusing it.

Ags have Johnny's back. Don't doubt that. Squeaky wheels aside.
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Eh...the younger group of Ags no doubt...but i think there's a clear divide on the little turd between the younger and older ags. You can read a few threads on Texags and garner that. In any event the timeline of what's been going with this dude over the last few months has more negative on it than anything.

- Sent home hung over from a Manning passing camp
- Autograph gate
& those 2 things are wrapped up nice & tight in the blanket that was the party fight incident that he just now settled what was it a month ago?.....which if i'm not mistaken all of that started before he even took a damn snap at Kyle field.

Notice i didn't even bring up this weekends show...So at the end of the day he's bringing this attention to himself either conciously (he's a twitter trolling fool) or unconciously with his dumb ass actions.

So keep believing it's just ESPN "spin" or rhetoric.....they're not making this **** up about him. At every turn he has continously kept supplying them with fresh buckets of poop to throw at him. & rather than him show an ounce of humility & maturation he keeps drawing attention to himself in the wrong way & it's taking away from what he's doing on the field.

You Aggie fans only have his back now b/c ya'll seem to enjoy some of the residual "shine" the school is getting from all this hoopla. That shine works both ways though.....
 
TexansSeminole said:
What about all the other times he's talking to players, shaking his head, rubbing his fingers together expressing something about "money." The kid is an *******, it's clear as day.

Post game comments by his coach indicate that he can't really control him all that much.

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He did the "money" gesture all last year and NOTHING was said about it. He is ACCUSED of taking money, NEVER HAS BEEN PROVEN, and NOW it is seen immature and selfish?

What the F ever....

Rice wants to talk crap, and they got b slapped. WHO THE HELL IS RICE to be talking crap to anybody? They are Rice....

I was at the game, low enough to see players, and saw Rice jawing at Manziel while he was walking back to the huddle, on Manziel's second play. So Manziel is suppose to just get, walk back and not say anything?

Obviously you never played football before.
 
Mr teX said:
You Aggie fans only have his back now b/c ya'll seem to enjoy some of the residual "shine" the school is getting from all this hoopla. That shine works both ways though.....
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Yeeup.

I never thought I'd see the day where I would root for Alabama to win a football game against anyone . . . ANYONE!!

Well, guess what?
 
Read this article in the Houston press

I quote a couple of bits for those to lazy to click on the link. But the whole article is worth reading.



A woefully rambling Trevor Matich of ESPN (I know, I know..."Who?") hyperbolized that Manziel is "shaping up to be the most selfish, unstable knucklehead in recent memory." Presumably, while consumed with preparing diligently for the college football season, Matich has missed all of the recent Aaron Hernandez coverage.

Mark May (he's baaack!) managed to take Manziel's "walking slowly next to Kevin Sumlin after the penalty and not making eye contact" and magically turn it into allegations of Manziel's blatant disrespect for his coach and his team, disrespect that he surmised would tear at the A&M locker room (and possibly lead to the downfall of capitalism as we know it!).

May actually screamed multiple times into the camera about the possibility of Manziel's doing something similar against Alabama or LSU as if he'd actually already done it.

Of course, later in the program, May briefly chuckled and joked about Bobby Petrino (a guy whose off the field exploits actually did destroy a program) getting another chance at head coaching because all he does is win.

Apparently, in May's world, adultery and ****ting on state mandated hiring practices are just quirky little side bars.

But don't you DARE point at the scoreboard!
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At their core, ESPN is a business, an entertainment business, one that needs eyeballs and web hits to sustain its multibillion dollar business model. Taking a virtual jabroni of a non-story (like a Manziel taunting penalty) and perpetuating and pushing it all the way into the main event on Sportscenter is what ESPN does better than any entertainment outlet in the history of media.

Johnny Manziel's not the first player to taunt an opponent, he's just the most famous, and the best thing for business is to make him this season's monster heel.

You see, to ESPN (and unwittingly to most of us), Johnny Manziel is just a television character. The main character in the 2013 season of the award winning drama called College Football, right? I mean, unless you actually know Johnny Manziel personally, that's really all he is.

He's a character on one of your favorite TV shows.

ESPN knows this, so they take all of his God given ability to play football and promote that so you'll watch the games. Then they take all of his God given flaws, like his temper and his narcissism, and promote those (under a guise of tearing them down) so you'll tune into everything else (First Take, Outside the Lines, Sportscenter, etc.).

Management at ESPN, they want you to hate Johnny Manziel. Make no mistake, while Matich and May and their ilk blindly beg Johnny to stop, the higher ups with ESPN (and CBS and FOX) hope "evil Johnny Football" never goes away.
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BullNation4Life said:
He did the "money" gesture all last year and NOTHING was said about it. He is ACCUSED of taking money, NEVER HAS BEEN PROVEN, and NOW it is seen immature and selfish?

What the F ever....

Rice wants to talk crap, and they got b slapped. WHO THE HELL IS RICE to be talking crap to anybody? They are Rice....

I was at the game, low enough to see players, and saw Rice jawing at Manziel while he was walking back to the huddle, on Manziel's second play. So Manziel is suppose to just get, walk back and not say anything?

Obviously you never played football before.
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They knew they didn't stand a chance so they we're lookintg for every advantage they could get & the bolded is the exact reason y he should've just shut his damn pie hole.

You're just supposed to :ahhaha: at them with your teammates point at the scoreboard & keep it moving. No response needed. I mean It's akin to you as a human talking smack to an ant just b/c it crawled up on your ankle unsuspectingly & bit you instead of just brushing it off and/or stepping on it.

What the hell do you have to gain by talking smack to them? It's shows how weak-minded he is that he has to do that kind of crap to such a lowly opponent. Reminds me of the last time UT played U of H here in Houston in football..Obnoxious fans from Austin arrive screaming "we're gonna kill you guys!!!!!!" & I'm thinking "well genius...you should kill us you're ranked in the top 5 and we're no where close to being ranked morons....:kubepalm:"

Its clear you haven't won much in team sports.
 
Its a sad day when Stephen A Smith has to be the voice of reason for ESPN. He broke down all this silliness perfectly this morning. Johnny's only mistake Saturday was giving these loud mouth hypocrites something to complain about. He could have kneeled down to pray after every score and they would have probably found a way to criticize that as well. A bunch of old men resorting to name calling? Yeah, very mature of these guys.
 
So now everyone is up and arms about Johnny Football talking trash to RIce? What in the hell do you guys think happens in football games? It's a violent sport and it's an intense sport where this goes on all game long. For some of the folks in this thread who are complaining about it, I guess you're going to have to start hating on Andre Johnson too, because he talks trash to teams all of the time as well. Manziel is in the middle of a football game where huge lineman are trying to take his head off on every play. He has every right to talk trash to guys who are trying to hurt him. Nothing to see here really. Holler at me when you guys actually have something on Manziel other then some sort of ESPN hogwash that they came up with in their morning meeting for a segment since that dreadful network hasn't been able to come up with real stories for the last 10 years.

And this is coming from a die hard Texas fan.
 
Mr teX said:
Notice i didn't even bring up this weekends show...So at the end of the day he's bringing this attention to himself either conciously (he's a twitter trolling fool) or unconciously with his dumb ass actions.

So keep believing it's just ESPN "spin" or rhetoric.....they're not making this **** up about him. At every turn he has continously kept supplying them with fresh buckets of poop to throw at him. & rather than him show an ounce of humility & maturation he keeps drawing attention to himself in the wrong way & it's taking away from what he's doing on the field.
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correct, espn is not making things up. they are drastically stretching the narrative to fit their agenda however. they are not a news reporting service, they are an entertainment conglomerate, and as the article linked by GHF shows, by having their talking heads express outrage at his actions, it is the beginning of their cycle. express outrage, analyze outrage, have outside source analyze their outrage, then re-report the outside sources analyzation of their initial outrage. it is all about the page clicks and viewers.

this is not to say johnny isn't at fault. he needs to be more mature and realize all his actions are under the microscope. however, the things people are up in arms about from the rice game don't concern his teammates or many a&m fans. in fact, his hyper competitiveness is something the team feeds off. outsiders will have their own opinion of that, however.

Mr teX said:
You Aggie fans only have his back now b/c ya'll seem to enjoy some of the residual "shine" the school is getting from all this hoopla. That shine works both ways though.....
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right, a school and fanbase known for fanatic devotion of all things football only defends a player because his actions create a negative media reaction, warranted or not. that makes a lot of sense.

good try though.


edit: I do have to thank tmzspn for all the publicity though. the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.
 
Texecutioner said:
So now everyone is up and arms about Johnny Football talking trash to RIce? What in the hell do you guys think happens in football games? It's a violent sport and it's an intense sport where this goes on all game long. For some of the folks in this thread who are complaining about it, I guess you're going to have to start hating on Andre Johnson too, because he talks trash to teams all of the time as well. Manziel is in the middle of a football game where huge lineman are trying to take his head off on every play. He has every right to talk trash to guys who are trying to hurt him. Nothing to see here really. Holler at me when you guys actually have something on Manziel other then some sort of ESPN hogwash that they came up with in their morning meeting for a segment since that dreadful network hasn't been able to come up with real stories for the last 10 years.

And this is coming from a die hard Texas fan.
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MSR
 
Marcus said:
I'm neither a Longhorn or an A&M fan. I could care less about either of those two schools. He could be the QB of Whateverthe****youcallit State. He's still being a petulant, arrogant ******** on and off the field. What makes him so special, that he couldn't be like all the rest of the kids his age, and show a little bit of humility and class?

He's damaged goods, and he's got nobody to blame but himself.
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What makes him so special? LOL A blind man can see what makes him so special. Have you seen him play? If so you would realize how dumb that statement is.

Is he cocky and arrogant? Yes, Most great athletes are Jordan/Bonds/Brady etc... it's in their DNA. What most people dont like is the fact that guys like these have the innate ability to deal with outside pressures and still be their own person, and still perform at the highest level.

That and the fact is that they win and some people get very jealous and do their best to try to bring these athletes down. They aren't going to bring Manziel down, because he has the $$$$ to fight the system and a willingness to do so. Unlike Adams/Posey at Ohio St.

The only person that will bring down Manziel is himself and one day that will happen. But it wont be today. Manziel, from a few old timers I've talked to say he is a modern day Bobby Layne. Another Texas football legend.
 
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