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Stemp said:
No. The haters are the ones who see something on tv or hear someone on espn bloviate and think they know what sumlin or manziel are thinking or doing.
From today's press conference:
The "money" sign was done last year and this year by many in the team and has no real meaning per the players at the presser
Sumlin said that he made two comments to manziel when he got the penalty didn't ask a question nor should manziel have responded to him if he was smart. Sumlin said he couldn't repeat what he said in public.
What people, including ESPN and others in the media think they know from the tv or behind a desk in a studio is often totally different than the reality.
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I don't know what Manziel said, nor do I particularly care. He's the starting QB, and he got himself benched during a football game for something other than performance. I think that speaks for itself and apparently one of the two people who know what was said (Sumlin) thinks it speaks for itself as well. No speculation required.
 
michaelm said:
I don't know what Manziel said, nor do I particularly care. He's the starting QB, and he got himself benched during a football game for something other than performance. I think that speaks for itself and apparently one of the two people who know what was said (Sumlin) thinks it speaks for itself as well. No speculation required.
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Sumlin also said it wasn't a big deal and couldn't believe the reporters were wasting time talking about it.

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I heard a rumor that Johnny Manziel punches babies and purposely leaves the toilet seat up so his GF gets her butt wet all the time.
 
disaacks3 said:
Sumlin also said it wasn't a big deal and couldn't believe the reporters were wasting time talking about it.

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Well, maybe Sumlin is in damage control, or has some other motive for downplaying it now (boosters anyone?).
It's not debated that Manziel was benched for the exchange with Sumlin is it? You don't bench your starting QB during a game for "no big deal"...
 
I'd like to point out that I'm not criticizing Manziel for any of the off-season stuff, or the perceived taunting and resulting penalty.
I'm just saying he got himself benched, and that is a problem. No arguing that point in my mind.
 
michaelm said:
I'd like to point out that I'm not criticizing Manziel for any of the off-season stuff, or the perceived taunting and resulting penalty.
I'm just saying he got himself benched, and that is a problem. No arguing that point in my mind.
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I think that's fair. I'm sure its a good teaching lesson for Sumlin and Johnny though. I think he's accepting the role of being hated right now and wanted to take that to the field. I personally love everything he did Saturday with the exception of drawing the penalty. Like Sumlin said today he needs to bottle up all that energy up and re-direct it. I don't even mind the trash talking, but just make sure its not anything out of line so it draws a penalty. Brady has been known to do a little talking on the field too, but he's just a little slicker about how he does it. Better he learn his lesson against Rice than Bama.
 
michaelm said:
Well, maybe Sumlin is in damage control, or has some other motive for downplaying it now (boosters anyone?).
It's not debated that Manziel was benched for the exchange with Sumlin is it? You don't bench your starting QB during a game for "no big deal"...
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He was benched for getting the penalty called not for saying something to sumlin. More than likely he was warned not to retaliate or say or do anything to draw a penalty but it still happened.
 
michaelm said:
Well, maybe Sumlin is in damage control, or has some other motive for downplaying it now (boosters anyone?).
It's not debated that Manziel was benched for the exchange with Sumlin is it? You don't bench your starting QB during a game for "no big deal"...
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Or maybe he thinks that it's all overblown?

Sumlin attempted to clear up a misconception that Manziel "ignored" the head coach after Sumlin yelled at him following the 15-yard personal foul penalty, which was assessed after he threw a touchdown pass to Mike Evans, exchanged words with a Rice defensive player and pointed at the scoreboard.

"When he came off the field, basically I made two statements to him, neither one of which should he have responded to," Sumlin said. "They weren't questions. They were direct statements that I can't repeat right now. So what's amazing to me is the perception that he ignored me. The worst thing that could have happened was for him to reply, based on what I told him."
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"For people to say 'You know what, he's not listening to his coach and there's no discipline on this team,' they're not around this football team," Sumlin said. "They're not around this program. A lot of people who have made statements about that weren't anywhere near the sideline. I haven't heard one guy or any person who was near that sideline, who heard (what) was said, speak up about what happened. So, you can get different perspectives sitting in a studio or behind a television than you would have gotten live. That's where we are with that. "
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All I can say about Manziel right now is look out- Derek Carr is leading the nation in total offense 497 yards per game. lol
 
Stemp said:
He was benched for getting the penalty called not for saying something to sumlin. More than likely he was warned not to retaliate or say or do anything to draw a penalty but it still happened.
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Exactly. Sumlin's comments on the field right after the incident illustrate his growing frustration with this kid more than anything....

"That wasn't very smart. That's why he didn't go back in the game either. You would hope at this point, you'd learn something from that. We're still working on that. He wasn't going back in the game no matter what was happening."

The bolded is the phrase that sums it up.....

Yesterday's comments were more of him trying to protect Manziel from any more criticism and to show everyone that he as the coach still has control of the team.
 
disaacks3 said:
"When he came off the field, basically I made two statements to him, neither one of which should he have responded to," Sumlin said. "They weren't questions. They were direct statements that I can't repeat right now. So what's amazing to me is the perception that he ignored me. The worst thing that could have happened was for him to reply, based on what I told him."
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Damn..... now I want to know what he said.
 
Mr teX said:
Yesterday's comments were more of him trying to protect Manziel from any more criticism and to show everyone that he as the coach still has control of the team.
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That seems obvious to me as well. Publicly criticizing him gets Sumlin nowhere, he probably regrets saying anything in the post game.
 
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link: http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2151167,00.html?pcd=hp-magmod
 
htownfan32 said:
Gotta agree with this article.
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I've been saying all along the media way making Manziel seem way too evil and going way over the top. The media is trying to make it out like he committed this horrible crime, like selling drugs or robbery, when the kid,and he is a kid, is only guilty of being a immature post-teenager who happened to be great enough for one year to win the Heisman Trophy...

I heard yesterday on Sports Radio 610, Rich Lord talking about how Manziel is a punk and this and that. Then proceeded to say, "If he was more like Andre Johnson, he would be more liked" ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME! Why are you comparing the way a grown man would act to the way a 20 year old kid would act.

that is the kind of crap I am talking about. Most of these talking heads must live in plexiglass houses with some of the stones they have been throwing around....
 
BullNation4Life said:
I heard yesterday on Sports Radio 610, Rich Lord talking about how Manziel is a punk and this and that. Then proceeded to say, "If he was more like Andre Johnson, he would be more liked" ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME! Why are you comparing the way a grown man would act to the way a 20 year old kid would act.
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Because you are the one being unrealistic. Lots of 20 year olds are behaving themselves as famous college athletes. You're acting like Manziel is acting normal and that is delusional.

FYI - 20 is an adult.
 
Manziel reminds me a lot of ..... Tim Tebow.

Polarizing .... Great athlete .... Great college QB .... Probably wont make it in the NFL.
 
I want to see Randy Bullock point to the score board & do the money sign when he kicks a field goal.
 
Mr teX said:
God help him if Manziel really does something that hurts his team or embarasses the University...This pic would be in heavy circulation.

On a side note..what's up with ol' boy on the far left throwing up gang signs?

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I think is he calling the photographer an A-hole....
 
Alabama At Texas A&M Is Most Expensive College Football Ticket Of 2013 At $744

Alabama won the college football national championship in January with a convincing 42-14 victory over Notre Dame. It capped a dominant 13-1 season where the Crimson Tide outscored opponents 541 to 153. The only blemish was a 29-24 loss at home to Texas A&M and future Heisman Trophy winner Johnny Manziel.

Alabama is ranked No. 1 in the preseason polls and will have revenge on its mind when it travels to College Station for a rematch on Sept. 14. The Alabama weight room has the 2012 A&M game playing on a continous loop on every TV in its weight room and the A&M logo is affixed to each weight station. Fans are jacked up for the game too with the average ticket price at $744 on the resale market, according to Vivid Seats, which makes it the most expensive college football game of the season.

Vivid combed its secondary ticket inventory for Forbes to determine the 25 most anticipated games of the year (see below). The average entry price for the ‘Bama-A&M game has risen $40 in recent weeks, despite concerns that Manziel would be suspended due to the autograph scandal that has engulfed him this month.

The minimum price to get into Kyle Stadium next month to see the national champs is $359. The average price of $744 is 35% higher than the next most expensive game, which features SEC heavyweight LSU at Alabama on Nov. 14. The average price for that annual battle is $550 with a minimum of $263.
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REST OF THE STORY
 
EllisUnit said:
haha come on now man this is a FCS school, we dont have the depth nor the talent a FBS gets, so to even compete is doing good.
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Well, Manziel looks alright, so that doesn't worry me.

The defense does worry me, but then again we are short like 5 starters because of suspensions.
 
I saw the game, didn't see it any way but a butt kicking, onward to the next game, we couldn't do worse than the Horns against the Mormons tee hee
 
Texn4life said:
Pretty much........ I saw the game and it could have been much, much uglier.
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When you allow a FCS school 240 rushing yards and 28 points a 68 yard rushing TD and a 75 yard passing TD, it is pretty bad though, especially when your ranked #7 in the nation.
 
EllisUnit said:
When you allow a FCS school 240 rushing yards and 28 points a 68 yard rushing TD and a 75 yard passing TD, it is pretty bad though, especially when your ranked #7 in the nation.
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Five starters not on defense these first two games, they'll be back next week.
 
FirstTexansFan said:
Five starters not on defense these first two games, they'll be back next week.
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OK and ??? All of the aggies back ups are more talented that the SHSU first string, thats the difference between getting recruits for a FBS and then recruits for a FCS school. We get the left overs haha, simply saying you guys might be in trouble when you face a good opponent judging by these first 2 games of the season against easy opponents.
 
OK little Johny boy, you had your fun with these third-rate programs, now big,
bad Nick and his big, bad "Bama team are coming for you next week in College
Station, and it ain't gonna be pretty, boy.
 
EllisUnit said:
OK and ??? All of the aggies back ups are more talented that the SHSU first string, thats the difference between getting recruits for a FBS and then recruits for a FCS school. We get the left overs haha, simply saying you guys might be in trouble when you face a good opponent judging by these first 2 games of the season against easy opponents.
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I actually don't disagree that the defense does have some things to worry about. They've let two sub-par teams run extremely effectively on them in the first two weeks of the season. Rice had 306 rushing yards with an average of 6 yards per rush, SHSU had 240 yards rushing with an average of 5.7 yards per rush. The Alabama running game looks like they may have a huge day against the Aggies. They'll be talking about it in their defensive meeting rooms, I can guarantee it.
 
IDEXAN said:
OK little Johny boy, you had your fun with these third-rate programs, now big,
bad Nick and his big, bad "Bama team are coming for you next week in College
Station, and it ain't gonna be pretty, boy.
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Oh its gonna be bad, real bad for Bama. This guy is about to show why he can be as much of an ass as he wants and we just need to shut up and respect his ability. Johnny F'in Football is going to wreak havoc.
 
EllisUnit said:
OK and ??? All of the aggies back ups are more talented that the SHSU first string, thats the difference between getting recruits for a FBS and then recruits for a FCS school. We get the left overs haha, simply saying you guys might be in trouble when you face a good opponent judging by these first 2 games of the season against easy opponents.
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actually a good number of fcs players were recruited by fbs schools but couldn't get in academically or transferred out due to different reasons. on shsu alone they have chance nelson, johntel franklin, and andrew weaver who were at one time either at or committed to a&m and i'm sure there are many others who transferred in from fbs programs.

as far as our defense, it is worrisome but we'll have at least three more starters back this week and will be running a 4-3 instead of the 3-3-5 we've been putting out the past two weeks.
 
IDEXAN said:
OK little Johny boy, you had your fun with these third-rate programs, now big,
bad Nick and his big, bad "Bama team are coming for you next week in College
Station, and it ain't gonna be pretty, boy.
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Yeah, it's going to be really ugly when the Aggie offensive line gives Manziel all day in the pocket and Malena huge holes to run through.

If A&M can keep scoring, Alabama won't be able to keep up. Sumlin just needs to focus on racking up points on Bama.
 
EllisUnit said:
When you allow a FCS school 240 rushing yards and 28 points a 68 yard rushing TD and a 75 yard passing TD, it is pretty bad though, especially when your ranked #7 in the nation.
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You have a reading comprehension problem....... that has nothing to do with what either of us said. A&M's defense is terrible, but you he responded to something that had nothing to do with their defense and my comment had nothing to do with their defense. A&M could have easily won that game by 50 points if not for the INT and a couple of missed opportunities in the Red Zone.
 
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