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Louis Nix

(on NT Louis Nix III being put on IR) “Well, I would tell you that it did have a lot to do with health. I have to tell you, he’s a guy that we have high hopes for in the future. No doubt about it. He’s a guy that we think is a future 3-4 nose for us, but he had a knee issue over the summer. Then he started off on the PUP. Has another issue right now. None of them are like I say, life threatening. But they’re definitely season ending injuries. We’ve decided medically to operate on them and hopefully he’ll come back stronger and ready to go for the offseason program.”

(on how NT Louis Nix III’s medical history played into the pre-draft process) “I think you talk about all of those things and I think that’s probably the case with every rookie that you bring in. It really is, because at the end of the day when they get here and they go through your training methods and they go through training camp or the offseason program and then the training camp, you never know what’s really going to happen with young player. I think that’s the case with every guy. When we drafted Louis, and we still feel the same way, we felt like this was a guy that had the body type and the ability to be a 3-4 nose for us and we still feel the same way.”
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http://www.houstontexans.com/news/a...ember-24/6880a0b5-7d40-4af7-9fe9-39fe0bd8b111
 
steelbtexan said:
You mean kinda like Smith's draft 2 yrs ago?

That's the draft that got Kubiak and Co. fired. That and Smith ridiculously extending Schaub.
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I don't think his draft 2 drafts ago was that bad. Hopkins alone makes up for the misses in that draft and add Swearinger and Griffin to the mix and it's not even in the same league. Chris Jones should also count as a pretty good pick because he's had some quality playing time in New England and the last I checked, he was one of their starting DEs.

Oh, wait. Are you talking about the Mercilus draft? That one wasn't great but I still think it was better than the Okoye draft. At least we got Brooks and Jones out of that one.
 
This draft will be a great daft if these things happen

1. Clowney gets healthy and plays well/great. (Probabl will happen)
2. XSF can learn pass pro. (Will happen, all rookies struggle with this.) See: Greg Robinson
3. Fiedo can get healthy and continue to show improvement. (This should happen)
4. Nix gets healthy and gets in shape.
5. Blue/Proesch/Hal have played well and continue to improve.

My outlook is that these guys are rookies and either have only played 3 NFL games or have been injured. It takes time for a guy to become a NFL player and calling a rookie a bust after 3 games is ludicrous.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
I don't think his draft 2 drafts ago was that bad. Hopkins alone makes up for the misses in that draft and add Swearinger and Griffin to the mix and it's not even in the same league. Chris Jones should also count as a pretty good pick because he's had some quality playing time in New England and the last I checked, he was one of their starting DEs.

Oh, wait. Are you talking about the Mercilus draft? That one wasn't great but I still think it was better than the Okoye draft. At least we got Brooks and Jones out of that one.
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That's the one I was talking about. But the B.Williams/Montgomery draft wasn't good either. Whoever decided to cut C.Jones should be fired immediately. C.Jones would look pretty good across from Watt now.
 
steelbtexan said:
That's the one I was talking about. But the B.Williams/Montgomery draft wasn't good either. Whoever decided to cut C.Jones should be fired immediately. C.Jones would look pretty good across from Watt now.
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Yeah, letting Chris Jones go was an epic fail. But so often, we fans are worried about cutting one of these late round guys to sneak him onto the PS and the guy goes through no problem. For one to actually get nabbed by someone... and then go on and get a bunch of sacks for them... that's just...

:kubepalm:
:wadepalm:
 
badboy said:
I wanted players that would contribute to this season at least by mid term. However, this has always been a throw away year for me. Brennan Williams was a huge disappointment for me. The problem for me is Nix had hernia surgery prior to 2013 season and between then and now he has lost from 360 to 331 (combine). That is a player with little drive and piss poor coaching staff follow through on both his college and Texans coaches. Nix needs to show up next OTAs healthy and about 315 pounds. If you are going to draft a fat lineman with leg injuries (and I wanted him), then you better pull excessive weight off him.
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Nix was actually told by coaches and NFL scouts that he was playing too heavy, and worked darn hard to get his weight down for the Combine, despite coming off of his meniscus knee surgery in November. Are you sure you aren't thinking of his team mate Stephon Tuitt?
 
thunderkyss said:
If you knew before the draft that Nix wasn't going to be able to contribute in 2014 would you have used that third on him, or someone who would?
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The Texans traded the first picks in the 4th and 5th round to move up for Nix. There are DTs that have already started games in the NFL that were availabe at each of those picks. Nix has a 4 year contract that the Texans will get a maximum of 3 years service. The other players are giving their teams a maximum of 4 years service. So that's a total of 8 years versus 3 years. Nix is going to have to be pretty special from 2015-2017 to make that up.

I'm not going to knock this draft just for the Nix pick. The Texans got a lot of value late in the draft that have contributed. 4 players from the 6th and 7th rounds. And from what I've seen from Clowney when he was on the field, I'm a believer. But we're a year removed from a draft that has 3 players out of 9 selections that remain on the team. That's deplorable. The previous draft (2012) had several questionable picks, as well. I would have preferred taking healthy players (at the time of the draft) rather than a guy who possibly needed a redshirt season.
 
Lucky said:
The Texans traded the first picks in the 4th and 5th round to move up for Nix. There are DTs that have already started games in the NFL that were available at each of those picks...
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Justin Ellis, started one game for the Raiders whose base is 4-3. That's it for guys who had the size to play 0 tech so far. It's a tough nut to crack.
 
If I'm Louis Nix I'm following JJ Watt around like a puppy all off-season and trying to a) get stronger every way I can and b) watching film, reading, and studying my ass off to try and get this system down pat.

If he doesn't come back next year leaner, stronger, meaner, and smarter with all this time to heal up, and grow up then the pick might very well have been a mistake. Until then I'm behind the guy and the pick.
 
thunderkyss said:
If you knew before the draft that Nix wasn't going to be able to contribute in 2014 would you have used that third on him, or someone who would?

Is he that special that you'd spend a 3rd on him anyway?
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3-65 probably not, but 3-89? Yeah. I'd invest a year in a player who might play for 10 and was considered a first rounder before his injury. But we need to hit on a few of these gambles.
 
Playoffs said:
Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli

Spotted: Louis Nix with a gigantic cast around his right forearm. #Texans
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Dave Zangaro ‏@DZangaro

Louis Nix apparently had his elbow surgery. Was in locker room with it wrapped. #Texans
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Seems to be some confusion re. the site of surgery (wrist vs. elbow). But the type of cast has given me definite insight into the specific injury. It was initially reported as a wrist injury and that he was to undergo wrist surgery. I have no doubt that this is indeed the surgery he underwent. In many wrist injuries you see the familiar short arm casts.

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However, when the specific area of injury requires immobilization of the forearm bones that are distally adjacent to the wrist bones, supination and pronation must be entirely blocked so the the repaired wrist segment is fully immobilized.

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Nix's injury would the almost assuredly be a scaphoid bone (also called the navicular bone) fracture......this is the most common wrist fracture:

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Or less likely, a distal radius (pic below) or ulna bone fracture:

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I just hope he didn't like trip and fall down trying to protect a dozen donuts with one hand causing the injury to the other wrist/elbow... at least doing something football. :kitten:
 
Lone Ranger (everybody else): "look Tonto a horse track!"

Tonto (CND): "yes Kemo sabe. It belongs to a horse known as a Morgan that stands 15 hands high and averages 1254 pounds. He is headed to San Antonio and his name is Strong Wind. He had two cups of oats for breakfast, an apple and two sugar cubes. He farted once long and once short. He is exactly 46 minutes thirty two seconds ahead of us."
 
awwwww when will Rick smith be fired is he really apart of Bobs family and does that mean hehas a job 4 life no matter how many times he screws ups
 
Hervoyel said:
If I'm Louis Nix I'm following JJ Watt around like a puppy all off-season and trying to a) get stronger every way I can and b) watching film, reading, and studying my ass off to try and get this system down pat.

If he doesn't come back next year leaner, stronger, meaner, and smarter with all this time to heal up, and grow up then the pick might very well have been a mistake. Until then I'm behind the guy and the pick.
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Does Nix need to get leaner? I want him to play as strong and smart and fat as possible.
 
sandman said:
Does Nix need to get leaner? I want him to play as strong and smart and fat as possible.
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The physics indicate force equals mass times speed. So he must gain speed greater than the inverse of the weight loss. Or something like that.
 
Marshall said:
The physics indicate force equals mass times speed. So he must gain speed greater than the inverse of the weight loss. Or something like that.
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Thanks for the physics lesson. LOL

Give me a fat guy who can play.
 
sandman said:
Does Nix need to get leaner? I want him to play as strong and smart and fat as possible.
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He did not look fat as many do his size at combine where he had lost from 360 (due to surgery rehab) to 331 but I would like to see him at about 315-320. He played at about 340. He is not known for sacks but his junior year 2012 had two and seven tackles for loss. More importantly he had 50 tackles and broke up five passes. We need a Nose that can plug the middle and push the pocket and imo if healthy, he is the ticket. Here is a bit:

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Outstanding size. Commands a double team and has two-gap ability. Good quickness off the snap. Has press strength and power to push blockers into the backfield. Shows disruptive ability when his battery is charged. Flashes an arm-over. Redirects well for a big man. Nice pursuit effort. Strong wrap tackler. Scheme versatile.
WEAKNESSES Can play with better leverage against double teams. Does not dominate single blocking. Needs to improve hand use -- punch impact, counter moves and shed timing. Limited pass-rush value (minimal sack production). Can do a better job protecting his legs -- is not as strong on his pegs as you'd expect and spends too much time on the ground. Conditioning and stamina will have to be monitored -- takes plays off and weight has fluctuated.
BOTTOM LINE Despite standing to benefit from a more dominant senior season in South Bend, Nix, who already graduated, opted to forgo his final year of eligibility in order to provide for 13 siblings. He does not enter the NFL with momentum, having coped with knee tendinitis before season-ending surgery to repair a torn left meniscus, and too often his gregarious personality and media hype overshadowed his performance. However, if the massive interior defender taps into his power more consistently, Nix has ample mass, strength and athleticism to anchor a "30" front as a space-eating, block-occupying run stuffer.
-Nolan Nawrocki
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Seems to be some confusion re. the site of surgery (wrist vs. elbow). But the type of cast has given me definite insight into the specific injury. It was initially reported as a wrist injury and that he was to undergo wrist surgery. I have no doubt that this is indeed the surgery he underwent. In many wrist injuries you see the familiar short arm casts.

afp20090901p491-f5.jpg


However, when the specific area of injury requires immobilization of the forearm bones that are distally adjacent to the wrist bones, supination and pronation must be entirely blocked so the the repaired wrist segment is fully immobilized.

adult_wrist_fx_treatmentcast.jpg


Nix's injury would the almost assuredly be a scaphoid bone (also called the navicular bone) fracture......this is the most common wrist fracture:

A00012F04.jpg


Or less likely, a distal radius (pic below) or ulna bone fracture:

distal-radius.jpg
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Ive learned too much about wrist, forearm and elbow injuries the last year, I want no part of this thread. Im out. :shades:
 
sandman said:
Does Nix need to get leaner? I want him to play as strong and smart and fat as possible.
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I hear you. I should have said "lean (but not too lean!)" instead. I meant not 360 or something like that where it's no longer benefitting him but 315-330(max)

"Lean" for a big fatty NT if that makes any sense.
 
My source tells me that O'Brien place Nix on IR as he did not want Myers to get hurt going against him in practice
 
badboy said:
nope they have no one else to play LG. I cannot figure out what is wrong with X but posters here say it's not being able to learn play book.
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I think he was a little behind because of the quarter system at UCLA . I think he got more behind playing all over the OL during camp . They are not rushing him which is good but a guy who is that versatile is smart .
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
I think he was a little behind because of the quarter system at UCLA . I think he got more behind playing all over the OL during camp . They are not rushing him which is good but a guy who is that versatile is smart .
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Bold is my thoughts but man we need best at each position beginning now. I am not a Jones at LG fan.
 
One reason the Texans signed veteran nose tackle Vince Wilfork was to have him become a positive influence on Louis Nix III.

Nix, a talented second-year nose tackle, was a third-round pick last year. He spent his rookie season on injured reserve but didn’t impress his coaches before he was injured.

Coach Bill O’Brien was asked today what he’d like to see out of Nix?

“I’d say the ability to make it through a practice,” he said.

O’Brien said he hasn’t seen Nix because he’s been working out in Florida. The players don’t report for the non-mandatory offseason program until April 20 when they begin with the conditioning phase.

O’Brien is hoping to see a lot of improvement from Nix playing on a line with Wilfork and J.J. Watt, not to mention being in the meeting room with them every day.

“It would be nuts not to use those guys as examples,” O’Brien said about Nix. “This is a great opportunity for Louis Nix.”
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I find it strange, the general feeling about Louis Nix around here, yet we chastise the Texans & their medical staff for bringing players back way to soon.
 
thunderkyss said:
I find it strange, the general feeling about Louis Nix around here, yet we chastise the Texans & their medical staff for bringing players back way to soon.
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Are you saying we have different ideas and conclusions in different threads? That can't be, this is the internet and stuff like that doesn't happen here.
 
thunderkyss said:
I find it strange, the general feeling about Louis Nix around here, yet we chastise the Texans & their medical staff for bringing players back way to soon.
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It seems to me they are questioning his motivation/dedication.

I like nix as a player I think. Haven't seen him in the nfl. But if he's not motivated to be a good or great player then they should cut him.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
It seems to me they are questioning his motivation/dedication.

I like nix as a player I think. Haven't seen him in the nfl. But if he's not motivated to be a good or great player then they should cut him.
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Motivation & dedication isn't keeping him off the field. Medical issues are. They put him on IR in Sept.

Sounds like they're trying to rush him back to health if the HC has to say crap like that to the media.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
It seems to me they are questioning his motivation/dedication.

I like nix as a player I think. Haven't seen him in the nfl. But if he's not motivated to be a good or great player then they should cut him.
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The fact he went back to Florida instead of staying in Houston to have a trainer up his butt 24/7 bothers me a bit. And I'm not picking up anything from him to indicate he's working on his food issues or dedicated himself to coming into OTAs in the best physical condition he's ever been in... which is what people do who really hope to make their mark in the NFL.

I also do not think Nix, III was OB's selection. Not unexpected considering his offensive mindset and all, but my opinion is Rick or RAC tabbed Nix. Doesn't matter now, he's ours. Hopefully Wilfork can influence him into a better way.

“I would say the ability to make it through a practice,” O’Brien said. “That would be the biggest thing I need to see.
“I have not seen Louis Nix,” he added. “So I don’t know. He’s working out somewhere in Florida, I guess, so I haven’t seen him. But that’s their prerogative, so don’t read anything into that. It’s just that when they show back up here for the offseason program, especially the younger players, the younger players need to be ready to go. So hopefully, he’s ready to go.”
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Playoffs said:
And I'm not picking up anything from him to indicate he's working on his food issues or dedicated himself to coming into OTAs in the best physical condition he's ever been in... which is what people do who really hope to make their mark in the NFL.
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I thought it was reported that Nix reported to the Combine having lost significant weight. Then reported to us, OTAs or camp after losing more weight again.
 
Playoffs said:
I also do not think Nix, III was OB's selection. Not unexpected considering his offensive mindset and all, but my opinion is Rick or RAC tabbed Nix. Doesn't matter now, he's ours. Hopefully Wilfork can influence him into a better way.
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Likely scenario is Nix was a RAC decision, Smith said Texans would've to move up to make that happen and O'Brien said make it happen Rick.
 
thunderkyss said:
I thought it was reported that Nix reported to the Combine having lost significant weight. Then reported to us, OTAs or camp after losing more weight again.
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Getting your food right isn't nearly only about weight...

For Vince Wilfork, he found something this offseason that has him feeling better than he's felt in his 11 seasons in the NFL.

After years of dieting on his own and eating foods that books or websites suggested, Wilfork took a blood test that told him -- with Harper's help -- what he really needed.

Harper's goal is to get an individualized plan that works for each of his players, and Wilfork said this test helped them determine his.

"You hear a lot of people talk about eating healthy stuff like nuts and almonds," Wilfork said. "Well, I'm actually high on that end. I'm actually a little allergic to nuts and almonds and avocados and stuff. It really broke it down to your body. That test was mainly for your body, what your body can accept. A lot of people go out with a generic diet method of, 'You gotta eat this.' Well, if you're body don't accept it, you can't eat it."

In addition to steering clear of foods like nuts and avocados, Wilfork said that this season he's stayed away from eating as many carbs as he has in the past. It's been tough for him, a rice and pasta lover, but the results have been staggering.

"Nothing really made me feel like how I feel now," Wilfork said. "This is the best I ever felt. My body, my body don't feel like it's been through a 20, 21 game season already. I'm still fresh. My body, I don't have no aches and bruises. I think a lot of that have to do with my nutrition, understanding what you're putting into your body.

"I still feel the difference. Going this whole season, feeling the way I feel, I never felt that. And I'm 33. I never felt like this in a season ever. It's crazy . . . It took me 11 years, but I got there. Better late than never."
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But it wasn't until this season that Wilfork has felt the effects of a dietary plan made to his specifications. What's helped the Patriots is that he's feeling better without having lost any of the weight or the strength that has made him one of the centerpieces of the team's defense for over a decade.

Pressed on the issue of his weight, Wilfork insisted he is playing at his listed 325 pounds.

"Everybody always questions me because I got a big belly," Wilfork said with a smile. "I tell them all the time that I'm always gonna have a belly. I'm always gonna have a belly. That's my trademark. I'm gonna have a belly. But when you do body-fat tests and all that stuff, all my fat is in my stomach. Everywhere else, I mean, you cut my belly out you'd think I'm a linebacker or something. You know what I mean? Everyone always questions me about that, but there's no question. That's what it is. Just because I got a big belly, I'm proportioned a little bit differently than everybody else."
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Watt -- eats the heck out of avocados. Doesn't love them, but they work for him.
 
Playoffs said:
The fact he went back to Florida instead of staying in Houston to have a trainer up his butt 24/7 bothers me a bit. And I'm not picking up anything from him to indicate he's working on his food issues or dedicated himself to coming into OTAs in the best physical condition he's ever been in... which is what people do who really hope to make their mark in the NFL.

I also do not think Nix, III was OB's selection. Not unexpected considering his offensive mindset and all, but my opinion is Rick or RAC tabbed Nix. Doesn't matter now, he's ours. Hopefully Wilfork can influence him into a better way.

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Sounds to me like OB is pissed because Nix went to Florida instead of staying here to train, and OB doesn't have confidence that Nix is doing the necessary training to report in shape.
 
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